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Can't send email
Recently I stopped being able to send email through the main email server I use. I can still receive email through it. I can not send it from home using the Belkin router from either the laptop nor the desktop. None of the settings were changed, it just quit being able to send. Now if I take my laptop to work where somebody else has a wireless network that is wide open, I can hook up to that with my Belkin Pre-N card and send or receive email through the same email server, and with the same settings. Just can't send from home. Any ideas as to why? I can't figure it out. GC Chips wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > I'm using a Belkin Pre-N hub & card in my laptop. Wired to desktop. Depends who you use for an ISP.. the from in your headers doesn't say (From: > > Recently I stopped being able to send email through the main email > server I use. I can still receive email through it. I can not send it > from home using the Belkin router from either the laptop nor the > desktop. None of the settings were changed, it just quit being able > to send. > Now if I take my laptop to work where somebody else has a wireless > network that is wide open, I can hook up to that with my Belkin Pre-N > card and send or receive email through the same email server, and > with the same settings. Just can't send from home. > > Any ideas as to why? I can't figure it out. > > GC "Chips" <chips@reliableins.nospam>) Some ISP's require smtp authentication (log on to mail server) to be able to send email thru them. See if you ISP has changed to requiring authentication to send email now. The email server for my ISP still works fine for me. It's SBC (I think they
use Yahoo). The email server that I can't send through is run by my website hoster. He says I don't need authentication, and didn't change anything. Also, I tried changing this setting back and forth, and there was no success there in solving this. My web hoster says there have been a few other customers of his that mysteriously suddenly could not send email through his server. He never figured out why. Nevertheless, on my laptop, without changing any settings, I can send through his email server from somebody else's wireless router, but not through mine. GC Show quoteHide quote "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message news:3825goF5iboh8U1@individual.net... > Chips wrote: >> I'm using a Belkin Pre-N hub & card in my laptop. Wired to desktop. >> >> Recently I stopped being able to send email through the main email >> server I use. I can still receive email through it. I can not send it >> from home using the Belkin router from either the laptop nor the >> desktop. None of the settings were changed, it just quit being able >> to send. >> Now if I take my laptop to work where somebody else has a wireless >> network that is wide open, I can hook up to that with my Belkin Pre-N >> card and send or receive email through the same email server, and >> with the same settings. Just can't send from home. >> >> Any ideas as to why? I can't figure it out. >> >> GC > > Depends who you use for an ISP.. the from in your headers doesn't say > (From: "Chips" <chips@reliableins.nospam>) > > Some ISP's require smtp authentication (log on to mail server) to be able > to send email thru them. See if you ISP has changed to requiring > authentication to send email now. > Did you try adding the domain? When I try and send email from my PDA I to
have just the (name), but now have to put in the whole name (like) (na***@domain.com It was in outlook express.. It asks for the name in it, but whenever I access it any way other than a direct connect (WiFi, cell, sat, etc) but it really wanted the (name)@domain.. It's free to try, and Worth a shot... Chips wrote: Show quoteHide quote > The email server for my ISP still works fine for me. It's SBC (I > think they use Yahoo). > > The email server that I can't send through is run by my website > hoster. He says I don't need authentication, and didn't change anything. > Also, I tried changing this setting back and forth, and there was no > success there in solving this. > > My web hoster says there have been a few other customers of his that > mysteriously suddenly could not send email through his server. He > never figured out why. > > Nevertheless, on my laptop, without changing any settings, I can send > through his email server from somebody else's wireless router, but not > through mine. > > GC > > > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message > news:3825goF5iboh8U1@individual.net... >> Chips wrote: >>> I'm using a Belkin Pre-N hub & card in my laptop. Wired to desktop. >>> >>> Recently I stopped being able to send email through the main email >>> server I use. I can still receive email through it. I can not send >>> it from home using the Belkin router from either the laptop nor the >>> desktop. None of the settings were changed, it just quit being able >>> to send. >>> Now if I take my laptop to work where somebody else has a wireless >>> network that is wide open, I can hook up to that with my Belkin >>> Pre-N card and send or receive email through the same email server, >>> and with the same settings. Just can't send from home. >>> >>> Any ideas as to why? I can't figure it out. >>> >>> GC >> >> Depends who you use for an ISP.. the from in your headers doesn't say >> (From: "Chips" <chips@reliableins.nospam>) >> >> Some ISP's require smtp authentication (log on to mail server) to be >> able to send email thru them. See if you ISP has changed to requiring >> authentication to send email now. Sorry, this dang wireless keyboard drops things... like commas and
letters/words... (or it could just be me looking at the keys as I type rather than the screen)..Actually my friend said to blame it on my getting older/it's raining/my arthritis is worse... Yeah that's it... It's my fingers that are defective... not my mind! :) Peter Pan wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Did you try adding the domain? When I try and send email from my PDA > I to have just the (name), but now have to put in the whole name > (like) (na***@domain.com > > It was in outlook express.. It asks for the name in it, but whenever I > access it any way other than a direct connect (WiFi, cell, sat, etc) > but it really wanted the (name)@domain.. It's free to try, and Worth > a shot... > > > Chips wrote: >> The email server for my ISP still works fine for me. It's SBC (I >> think they use Yahoo). >> >> The email server that I can't send through is run by my website >> hoster. He says I don't need authentication, and didn't change >> anything. Also, I tried changing this setting back and forth, and >> there was no success there in solving this. >> >> My web hoster says there have been a few other customers of his that >> mysteriously suddenly could not send email through his server. He >> never figured out why. >> >> Nevertheless, on my laptop, without changing any settings, I can send >> through his email server from somebody else's wireless router, but >> not through mine. >> >> GC >> >> >> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message >> news:3825goF5iboh8U1@individual.net... >>> Chips wrote: >>>> I'm using a Belkin Pre-N hub & card in my laptop. Wired to desktop. >>>> >>>> Recently I stopped being able to send email through the main email >>>> server I use. I can still receive email through it. I can not send >>>> it from home using the Belkin router from either the laptop nor the >>>> desktop. None of the settings were changed, it just quit being able >>>> to send. >>>> Now if I take my laptop to work where somebody else has a wireless >>>> network that is wide open, I can hook up to that with my Belkin >>>> Pre-N card and send or receive email through the same email server, >>>> and with the same settings. Just can't send from home. >>>> >>>> Any ideas as to why? I can't figure it out. >>>> >>>> GC >>> >>> Depends who you use for an ISP.. the from in your headers doesn't >>> say (From: "Chips" <chips@reliableins.nospam>) >>> >>> Some ISP's require smtp authentication (log on to mail server) to be >>> able to send email thru them. See if you ISP has changed to >>> requiring authentication to send email now. Yes, I've tried with and without the domain in the "account name" field. It
*is* supposed to have it, and does on my laptop which will connect using somebody else's wireless router. GC Show quoteHide quote "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message news:3827hbF5jeb7bU1@individual.net... > Did you try adding the domain? When I try and send email from my PDA I to > have just the (name), but now have to put in the whole name (like) > (na***@domain.com > > It was in outlook express.. It asks for the name in it, but whenever I > access it any way other than a direct connect (WiFi, cell, sat, etc) but > it really wanted the (name)@domain.. It's free to try, and Worth a shot... > > > > Chips wrote: >> The email server for my ISP still works fine for me. It's SBC (I >> think they use Yahoo). >> >> The email server that I can't send through is run by my website >> hoster. He says I don't need authentication, and didn't change anything. >> Also, I tried changing this setting back and forth, and there was no >> success there in solving this. >> >> My web hoster says there have been a few other customers of his that >> mysteriously suddenly could not send email through his server. He >> never figured out why. >> >> Nevertheless, on my laptop, without changing any settings, I can send >> through his email server from somebody else's wireless router, but not >> through mine. >> >> GC >> >> >> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message >> news:3825goF5iboh8U1@individual.net... >>> Chips wrote: >>>> I'm using a Belkin Pre-N hub & card in my laptop. Wired to desktop. >>>> >>>> Recently I stopped being able to send email through the main email >>>> server I use. I can still receive email through it. I can not send >>>> it from home using the Belkin router from either the laptop nor the >>>> desktop. None of the settings were changed, it just quit being able >>>> to send. >>>> Now if I take my laptop to work where somebody else has a wireless >>>> network that is wide open, I can hook up to that with my Belkin >>>> Pre-N card and send or receive email through the same email server, >>>> and with the same settings. Just can't send from home. >>>> >>>> Any ideas as to why? I can't figure it out. >>>> >>>> GC >>> >>> Depends who you use for an ISP.. the from in your headers doesn't say >>> (From: "Chips" <chips@reliableins.nospam>) >>> >>> Some ISP's require smtp authentication (log on to mail server) to be >>> able to send email thru them. See if you ISP has changed to requiring >>> authentication to send email now. > > Ever try it direct connected rather or wired rather than wireless? (to see
if it is only a wireless thing, but works wired)? This is a pie in the sky thought, I just recall one router I was using that dropped the domain when wireless, but not wired... Would at least narrow the error down.. Chips wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Yes, I've tried with and without the domain in the "account name" > field. It *is* supposed to have it, and does on my laptop which will > connect using somebody else's wireless router. > > GC > > > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message > news:3827hbF5jeb7bU1@individual.net... >> Did you try adding the domain? When I try and send email from my PDA >> I to have just the (name), but now have to put in the whole name >> (like) (na***@domain.com >> >> It was in outlook express.. It asks for the name in it, but whenever >> I access it any way other than a direct connect (WiFi, cell, sat, >> etc) but it really wanted the (name)@domain.. It's free to try, and >> Worth a shot... Chips wrote: >>> The email server for my ISP still works fine for me. It's SBC (I >>> think they use Yahoo). >>> >>> The email server that I can't send through is run by my website >>> hoster. He says I don't need authentication, and didn't change >>> anything. Also, I tried changing this setting back and forth, and >>> there was no success there in solving this. >>> >>> My web hoster says there have been a few other customers of his that >>> mysteriously suddenly could not send email through his server. He >>> never figured out why. >>> >>> Nevertheless, on my laptop, without changing any settings, I can >>> send through his email server from somebody else's wireless router, >>> but not through mine. >>> >>> GC >>> >>> >>> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message >>> news:3825goF5iboh8U1@individual.net... >>>> Chips wrote: >>>>> I'm using a Belkin Pre-N hub & card in my laptop. Wired to >>>>> desktop. Recently I stopped being able to send email through the main >>>>> server I use. I can still receive email through it. I can not send >>>>> it from home using the Belkin router from either the laptop nor >>>>> the desktop. None of the settings were changed, it just quit >>>>> being able to send. >>>>> Now if I take my laptop to work where somebody else has a wireless >>>>> network that is wide open, I can hook up to that with my Belkin >>>>> Pre-N card and send or receive email through the same email >>>>> server, and with the same settings. Just can't send from home. >>>>> >>>>> Any ideas as to why? I can't figure it out. >>>>> >>>>> GC >>>> >>>> Depends who you use for an ISP.. the from in your headers doesn't >>>> say (From: "Chips" <chips@reliableins.nospam>) >>>> >>>> Some ISP's require smtp authentication (log on to mail server) to >>>> be able to send email thru them. See if you ISP has changed to >>>> requiring authentication to send email now. Forgot to mention:
The desktop is wired, the laptop is wireless. The desktop has the same results as the laptop, except that the desktop has not been taken elsewhere to be tried on somebody else's network. GC Show quoteHide quote "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message news:38295gF5idsasU1@individual.net... > Ever try it direct connected rather or wired rather than wireless? (to see > if it is only a wireless thing, but works wired)? This is a pie in the sky > thought, I just recall one router I was using that dropped the domain when > wireless, but not wired... > Would at least narrow the error down.. > > Chips wrote: >> Yes, I've tried with and without the domain in the "account name" >> field. It *is* supposed to have it, and does on my laptop which will >> connect using somebody else's wireless router. >> >> GC >> >> >> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message >> news:3827hbF5jeb7bU1@individual.net... >>> Did you try adding the domain? When I try and send email from my PDA >>> I to have just the (name), but now have to put in the whole name >>> (like) (na***@domain.com >>> >>> It was in outlook express.. It asks for the name in it, but whenever >>> I access it any way other than a direct connect (WiFi, cell, sat, >>> etc) but it really wanted the (name)@domain.. It's free to try, and >>> Worth a shot... Chips wrote: >>>> The email server for my ISP still works fine for me. It's SBC (I >>>> think they use Yahoo). >>>> >>>> The email server that I can't send through is run by my website >>>> hoster. He says I don't need authentication, and didn't change >>>> anything. Also, I tried changing this setting back and forth, and >>>> there was no success there in solving this. >>>> >>>> My web hoster says there have been a few other customers of his that >>>> mysteriously suddenly could not send email through his server. He >>>> never figured out why. >>>> >>>> Nevertheless, on my laptop, without changing any settings, I can >>>> send through his email server from somebody else's wireless router, >>>> but not through mine. >>>> >>>> GC >>>> >>>> >>>> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message >>>> news:3825goF5iboh8U1@individual.net... >>>>> Chips wrote: >>>>>> I'm using a Belkin Pre-N hub & card in my laptop. Wired to >>>>>> desktop. Recently I stopped being able to send email through the main >>>>>> server I use. I can still receive email through it. I can not send >>>>>> it from home using the Belkin router from either the laptop nor >>>>>> the desktop. None of the settings were changed, it just quit >>>>>> being able to send. >>>>>> Now if I take my laptop to work where somebody else has a wireless >>>>>> network that is wide open, I can hook up to that with my Belkin >>>>>> Pre-N card and send or receive email through the same email >>>>>> server, and with the same settings. Just can't send from home. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any ideas as to why? I can't figure it out. >>>>>> >>>>>> GC >>>>> >>>>> Depends who you use for an ISP.. the from in your headers doesn't >>>>> say (From: "Chips" <chips@reliableins.nospam>) >>>>> >>>>> Some ISP's require smtp authentication (log on to mail server) to >>>>> be able to send email thru them. See if you ISP has changed to >>>>> requiring authentication to send email now. > > Okay.. so the laptop works wireless else but not there, and the desktop also
won't work there wired.... Just for debugging reasons, can you connect the desktop direct to the dsl/cable modem and skip the router.. (just for a test)... That will narrow it down to the desktop or the router... Or does the laptop also have a wired connection, that you can enable and use wired? (sounds silly, but if you can try it that way, you know absolutely for sure where the problem is ((ie in your router or the connection to the ISP)). Makes debugging easier when you can narrow the error down to one device.... Chips wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Forgot to mention: > > The desktop is wired, the laptop is wireless. The desktop has the same > results as the laptop, except that the desktop has not been taken > elsewhere to be tried on somebody else's network. > > GC > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message Good idea, I can and I'll try that. But not tonight.news:382btmF5jrratU1@individual.net... > Okay.. so the laptop works wireless else but not there, and the desktop > also won't work there wired.... > Just for debugging reasons, can you connect the desktop direct to the > dsl/cable modem and skip the router.. (just for a test)... That will > narrow it down to the desktop or the router... GC Show quoteHide quote >Or does the laptop also have a wired connection, that you can enable and >use wired? (sounds silly, but if you can try it that way, you know >absolutely for sure where the problem is ((ie in your router or the >connection to the ISP)). Makes debugging easier when you can narrow the >error down to one device.... > > > > Chips wrote: >> Forgot to mention: >> >> The desktop is wired, the laptop is wireless. The desktop has the same >> results as the laptop, except that the desktop has not been taken >> elsewhere to be tried on somebody else's network. >> >> GC >> > > Understandable.. I just looked at your posts properties, and it shows
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:51:07 EST I'm out west, only 8:03 pm here :) Chips wrote: Show quoteHide quote > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message > news:382btmF5jrratU1@individual.net... >> Okay.. so the laptop works wireless else but not there, and the >> desktop also won't work there wired.... >> Just for debugging reasons, can you connect the desktop direct to the >> dsl/cable modem and skip the router.. (just for a test)... That will >> narrow it down to the desktop or the router... > > Good idea, I can and I'll try that. But not tonight. > > GC > >> Or does the laptop also have a wired connection, that you can enable >> and use wired? (sounds silly, but if you can try it that way, you >> know absolutely for sure where the problem is ((ie in your router or >> the connection to the ISP)). Makes debugging easier when you can >> narrow the error down to one device.... >> >> >> >> Chips wrote: >>> Forgot to mention: >>> >>> The desktop is wired, the laptop is wireless. The desktop has the >>> same results as the laptop, except that the desktop has not been >>> taken elsewhere to be tried on somebody else's network. >>> >>> GC A little more info,
It sits at "Finding Host" for awhile until giving up and reporting an error. And I'm using Outlook Express with Win XP Pro on the desktop, and Outlook Express in Win 2K on the laptop. GC Show quoteHide quote "Chips" <chips@reliableins.nospam> wrote in message news:zUQSd.8444$Pz7.7690@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... > I'm using a Belkin Pre-N hub & card in my laptop. Wired to desktop. > > Recently I stopped being able to send email through the main email server > I use. I can still receive email through it. I can not send it from home > using the Belkin router from either the laptop nor the desktop. None of > the settings were changed, it just quit being able to send. > > Now if I take my laptop to work where somebody else has a wireless network > that is wide open, I can hook up to that with my Belkin Pre-N card and > send or receive email through the same email server, and with the same > settings. Just can't send from home. > > Any ideas as to why? I can't figure it out. > > GC > Some ISPs (actually most these days) do not allow traffic on port 25 to pass
out of their networks in an effort to reduce the amount of spam that originates from their network. The solution is to see if the e-mail server you want to use also uses a port other than 25 for SMTP and it would be best if that port would use encryption (e.g. SMTP with SSL that may be on port 465; Gmail has this but many other e-mail providers do not). Ideally, you would not be using port 25 in the first place because traffic over port 25 is usually not encrypted and if you need some sort of logon, your name and password would also not be encrypted. This is especially bad if you are using an unencrypted wireless network. -Yves Show quoteHide quote "Chips" <chips@reliableins.nospam> wrote in message news:zUQSd.8444$Pz7.7690@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... > I'm using a Belkin Pre-N hub & card in my laptop. Wired to desktop. > > Recently I stopped being able to send email through the main email server > I use. I can still receive email through it. I can not send it from home > using the Belkin router from either the laptop nor the desktop. None of > the settings were changed, it just quit being able to send. > > Now if I take my laptop to work where somebody else has a wireless network > that is wide open, I can hook up to that with my Belkin Pre-N card and > send or receive email through the same email server, and with the same > settings. Just can't send from home. > > Any ideas as to why? I can't figure it out. > > GC > Yves,
SMTP is set for 25, and that's what he said to use. I emailed him to see if it should be changed. My wireless is encrypted (128 bit WEP). GC Show quoteHide quote "Yves Konigshofer" <yv***@sStTaAnNfFoOrRdD.edu> wrote in message news:cvgpiv$si6$1@news.Stanford.EDU... > Some ISPs (actually most these days) do not allow traffic on port 25 to > pass out of their networks in an effort to reduce the amount of spam that > originates from their network. > > The solution is to see if the e-mail server you want to use also uses a > port other than 25 for SMTP and it would be best if that port would use > encryption (e.g. SMTP with SSL that may be on port 465; Gmail has this but > many other e-mail providers do not). Ideally, you would not be using port > 25 in the first place because traffic over port 25 is usually not > encrypted and if you need some sort of logon, your name and password would > also not be encrypted. This is especially bad if you are using an > unencrypted wireless network. > > -Yves > > "Chips" <chips@reliableins.nospam> wrote in message > news:zUQSd.8444$Pz7.7690@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... >> I'm using a Belkin Pre-N hub & card in my laptop. Wired to desktop. >> >> Recently I stopped being able to send email through the main email server >> I use. I can still receive email through it. I can not send it from home >> using the Belkin router from either the laptop nor the desktop. None of >> the settings were changed, it just quit being able to send. >> >> Now if I take my laptop to work where somebody else has a wireless >> network that is wide open, I can hook up to that with my Belkin Pre-N >> card and send or receive email through the same email server, and with >> the same settings. Just can't send from home. >> >> Any ideas as to why? I can't figure it out. >> >> GC >> > > I sent this message to my web hoster. He added a different port for sending
email. I configured that email account for the new port, and Woila! Now it works fine. It seems this was the issue. Thanks. GC Show quoteHide quote "Yves Konigshofer" <yv***@sStTaAnNfFoOrRdD.edu> wrote in message news:cvgpiv$si6$1@news.Stanford.EDU... > Some ISPs (actually most these days) do not allow traffic on port 25 to > pass out of their networks in an effort to reduce the amount of spam that > originates from their network. > > The solution is to see if the e-mail server you want to use also uses a > port other than 25 for SMTP and it would be best if that port would use > encryption (e.g. SMTP with SSL that may be on port 465; Gmail has this but > many other e-mail providers do not). Ideally, you would not be using port > 25 in the first place because traffic over port 25 is usually not > encrypted and if you need some sort of logon, your name and password would > also not be encrypted. This is especially bad if you are using an > unencrypted wireless network. > > -Yves > > "Chips" <chips@reliableins.nospam> wrote in message > news:zUQSd.8444$Pz7.7690@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... >> I'm using a Belkin Pre-N hub & card in my laptop. Wired to desktop. >> >> Recently I stopped being able to send email through the main email server >> I use. I can still receive email through it. I can not send it from home >> using the Belkin router from either the laptop nor the desktop. None of >> the settings were changed, it just quit being able to send. >> >> Now if I take my laptop to work where somebody else has a wireless >> network that is wide open, I can hook up to that with my Belkin Pre-N >> card and send or receive email through the same email server, and with >> the same settings. Just can't send from home. >> >> Any ideas as to why? I can't figure it out. >> >> GC >> > > 
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