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Wireless IN from ISP to wired OUT inhouse - possible?
apartment dweller. Everything I've seen for consumers is designed for a wired broadband input that routes wireless to various pc's. I'm looking to do the opposite. I need to have a sort of wireless "base station" that would be my access to a wireless network. Then to that base (a router I guess) I will run wired/LAN connections to a 3 or 4 pc's. Or I could run wired to a couple and have short range wireless to another 1 or 2. Possible? The exact setup will be on a boat that receives wireless broadband from the marina. W/in the boat I can lay cables to a couple of cabins. It would be nice to be wireless from the "base" to a laptop in the cockpit, but I could run a cable there, too. Into my "base station: I would also plug in my internet telephone. If im reading you right you want to have you want to setup a wireless
network on your boat. Thats exactly what wireless is for...You do not have to have a Internet connection to the wireless router to creat a network. A boat would be a great place for a wireless network, except, and Im not to sure on the frequencies involved in marine equipment, but Radar and Radioused on your boat might cause interferance, you would have to look into that. If you would like all your systems to be wireless just purchace PCI, USB or PCMCIA Wireless client adapters for your systems and a wireless router. The router you would want to place in a central location between your systems for best signal performance. No Special equipment needed, just your everyday on sale wireless networking equipment will do. Robert... Show quoteHide quote "HA .com" <sanders@kernalhen> wrote in message news:00050121175447.OUI16.sanders@kernalhen(HA).com... > I'm new to wireless and have a different need than typical home or > apartment dweller. > > Everything I've seen for consumers is designed for a wired broadband > input that routes wireless to various pc's. I'm looking to do the > opposite. > > I need to have a sort of wireless "base station" that would be my access > to a wireless network. Then to that base (a router I guess) I will run > wired/LAN connections to a 3 or 4 pc's. Or I could run wired to a couple > and have short range wireless to another 1 or 2. > > Possible? > > The exact setup will be on a boat that receives wireless broadband from > the marina. W/in the boat I can lay cables to a couple of cabins. It > would be nice to be wireless from the "base" to a laptop in the cockpit, > but I could run a cable there, too. > > Into my "base station: I would also plug in my internet telephone. > > If im reading you right you want to have you want to setup a wireless Actually, I do need the internet connection. That's the major point. > network on your boat. Thats exactly what wireless is for...You do not > have to have a Internet connection to the wireless router to creat a > network.> . I want to have wireless broadband in to my boat. I am calling the receiver/router a "base station". I will then either run cables to my fixed pc's, and if possible have short range wireless from the "base station" to a laptop. IOW, having a wireless receiver/sender into which I can plug a router so that I may access the internet from all of the pc's on my in-boat network is the essential desire. ok so you want to set it up just like any other wireless network sharing an
internet connect..... So can I ask you what your question is? Because im lost...... Do you already have a basestation to recieve your Internet? Does it plug into a computer via ethernet? A wireless router will have ethernet ports and wireless built in to connect your pcs and laptop. Robert... Show quoteHide quote "HA .com" <sanders@kernalhen> wrote in message news:00050121221721.OUI79.sanders@kernalhen(HA).com... >> If im reading you right you want to have you want to setup a wireless >> network on your boat. Thats exactly what wireless is for...You do not >> have to have a Internet connection to the wireless router to creat a >> network.> . > > Actually, I do need the internet connection. That's the major point. > > I want to have wireless broadband in to my boat. I am calling the > receiver/router a "base station". I will then either run cables to my > fixed pc's, and if possible have short range wireless from the "base > station" to a laptop. IOW, having a wireless receiver/sender into which > I can plug a router so that I may access the internet from all of the > pc's on my in-boat network is the essential desire. > > So can I ask you what your question is? Because im lost...... Sorry to be confusing. But I'm very new to wireless hardware. So if I amasking a "is 2 + 5 = 5" kind of question please excuse me. > A wireless router will have ethernet ports and wireless built in to What I have seen to date, is a wireless router hardwired to the internet> connect your pcs and laptop. (DSL or cable), allowing wireless access from the cable modem to the owners's computers. So, like having cable internet, cabled from wall to modem, then to wireless router, but then wireless to various pc's. Seen that many times. Bog standard my english friends would say. What I am not clear about is whether this can be easily done in the reverse direction: Wireless ISP into my wireless router, then ethernet cable out to my pc's and Vonage phone. Any other questions I might have would be dependant upon that answer. Thats not reverse, thats the way wireless networking works.....your wireless
ISP basestation would plug into the wireless router just like DSL would....... Show quoteHide quote "HA .com" <sanders@kernalhen> wrote in message news:00050122033530.OUI39.sanders@kernalhen(HA).com... >> So can I ask you what your question is? Because im lost...... > > Sorry to be confusing. But I'm very new to wireless hardware. So if I am > asking a "is 2 + 5 = 5" kind of question please excuse me. > >> A wireless router will have ethernet ports and wireless built in to >> connect your pcs and laptop. > > What I have seen to date, is a wireless router hardwired to the internet > (DSL or cable), allowing wireless access from the cable modem to the > owners's computers. So, like having cable internet, cabled from wall to > modem, then to wireless router, but then wireless to various pc's. Seen > that many times. Bog standard my english friends would say. > > What I am not clear about is whether this can be easily done in the > reverse direction: > > Wireless ISP into my wireless router, then ethernet cable out to my pc's > and Vonage phone. > > Any other questions I might have would be dependant upon that answer. > > your wireless ISP basestation < Ok, they exist? Great. (As i said i'm new to wireless)> would plug into the wireless router < Not a problem with those. So what is the industry term for what I call a "base station"? Any specific examples? I don't think I see them in the retail ads, unless I don't know what I'm seeing. Regular routers, though, advertised everywhere. On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 03:33:26 GMT, in alt.internet.wireless , "DLink Guru"
<rjacobs0spamfree@pacbell.net> wrote: >ok so you want to set it up just like any other wireless network sharing an he means he wants a wireless connection from his router to the internet,>internet connect..... So can I ask you what your question is? Because im >lost...... but is then happy with wired links from the router to his PCs on the boat. Presumably he wants to be able to dock and connect to a local hotspot. To the OP: the simplest way would be to set up one of hte PCs as a wireless client, connecting to wherever the local wireless internet service is. Then on this PC, route traffic to your wired lan. -- Mark McIntyre CLC FAQ <http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html> CLC readme: <http://www.ungerhu.com/jxh/clc.welcome.txt> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- > he means he wants a wireless connection from his router to the Yep. :)> internet, but is then happy with wired links from the router to his > PCs on the boat. Presumably he wants to be able to dock and connect to > a local hotspot. > To the OP: the simplest way would be to set up one of the PCs as a That makes sense. That will work for me if no "base station" is> wireless client, connecting to wherever the local wireless internet > service is. Then on this PC, route traffic to your wired lan. available. So pc #1 would be the access device using common wireless hardware. Then a basic router would be downstream of it, splitting off to other pc's and devices. I guess I then set up internet connection sharing in the OS. In the long run I'd like to be able to have the computer(s) off and just a base/router on. But the above approach will get me started and operational. Thanks! On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:59:48 -0600, in alt.internet.wireless ,
sanders@kernalhen(HA).com wrote: >So pc #1 would be the access device using common wireless hardware. Then Yes. >a basic router would be downstream of it, splitting off to other pc's >and devices. I guess I then set up internet connection sharing in the >OS. >In the long run I'd like to be able to have the computer(s) off and just Some retail APs are capable of being recievers as well as transmitters. I>a base/router on. seem to recall that "repeater" or "bridge" mode is what you're looking for. >But the above approach will get me started and A cheap approach would be to use a monitorless linux box for the wireless>operational. client. Configure it and get it running with a monitor and kbd, then install VNC or similar, so you can administer it remotely. Effectively you're making your own wireless bridge. -- Mark McIntyre CLC FAQ <http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html> CLC readme: <http://www.ungerhu.com/jxh/clc.welcome.txt> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- > Some retail APs are capable of being recievers as well as Ok, so I'll go looking for a "bridge". I'll report back when I have> transmitters. I seem to recall that "repeater" or "bridge" mode is > what you're looking for.> . solutions in hand. The linux box would be great for land based, but I'd rather not have another computer running in addition to the 3 I already will have, if I can avoid it. Thanks for your and everyone's time responding to my queries. On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:13:55 -0600, in alt.internet.wireless ,
sanders@kernalhen(HA).com wrote: >The linux box would be great for land based, but I'd rather not have Euh, don' t forget that a router is nothing more than a dedicated computer.>another computer running in addition to the 3 I already will have, if I >can avoid it. Your linux box would be no different. -- Mark McIntyre CLC FAQ <http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html> CLC readme: <http://www.ungerhu.com/jxh/clc.welcome.txt> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- >> The linux box would be great for land based, but I'd rather not have Granted. But remember I am setting this up on a boat. If I can run a>> another computer running in addition to the 3 I already will have, if >> I can avoid it. > > Euh, don' t forget that a router is nothing more than a dedicated > computer. Your linux box would be no different. self contained, purpose built device the size of a small book, rather than a personal computer (even sans keyboard and monitor) it would be a lot easier, much, much smaller, and use less power. (If it uses 9-14v DC that would be super, but even a unit with a small AC>DC adapter would draw minimal current.) Thanks again for your info. sanders@kernalhen(HA).com wrote:
>I want to have wireless broadband in to my boat. I am calling the Your problem is that you will probably need a directional antenna on the boat to>receiver/router a "base station". I will then either run cables to my >fixed pc's, and if possible have short range wireless from the "base >station" to a laptop. IOW, having a wireless receiver/sender into which >I can plug a router so that I may access the internet from all of the >pc's on my in-boat network is the essential desire. get any kind of range from your WISP. Since gyro stabilized WiFi antennas aren't particularly common, you aren't going to be able to get the connection to the boat. Distributing on the boat is no problem as an omni antenna will give you the coverage. Of course if money is no object, you can look into Inmarsat satellite service or have someone build a custom gyro mount for you. > Your problem is that you will probably need a directional antenna on Actually, there are companies that specialize in providing wireless> the boat to get any kind of range from your WISP. broadband to and through marina's. So the transmitter would not be far away. In Baltimore's harbor there are at least 3 marina's with wireless available, and I expect the rest will be soon. It's happening all along the coast. Verizon is also rolling out their wireless broadband using the same cell towers they use for cellular telephone. Not as fast as a cable modem at home, but far faster than any dialup. sanders@kernalhen(HA).com wrote:
>> Your problem is that you will probably need a directional antenna on True. I was thinking that the OP wanted it for use while the boat was away from>> the boat to get any kind of range from your WISP. > >Actually, there are companies that specialize in providing wireless >broadband to and through marina's. So the transmitter would not be far >away. In Baltimore's harbor there are at least 3 marina's with >wireless available, and I expect the rest will be soon. It's happening >all along the coast. > >Verizon is also rolling out their wireless broadband using the same cell >towers they use for cellular telephone. Not as fast as a cable modem at >home, but far faster than any dialup. the marina. > True. I was thinking that the OP wanted it for use while the boat was That would be nice, and that day is coming. At present, being able to> away from the marina. have it daily while living aboard in a marina, and also being able to access other broadband nodes while cruising, when at - or very near - other marina's that offer access, will be quite sufficient. Have mine set up that way (wireless network with non internet connection in
boat, RV, plane etc, just use it for the wireless network part), and never had it interfere with navigation, just had a problem with a cordless phone on the boat and the wireless network (changed channels and all was fine). When any sort of connection (WiFi, cable, sat, cell etc) is available, it's just a shared resource to other clients on the network. DLink Guru wrote: Show quoteHide quote > If im reading you right you want to have you want to setup a wireless > network on your boat. Thats exactly what wireless is for...You do not > have to have a Internet connection to the wireless router to creat a > network. > A boat would be a great place for a wireless network, except, and Im > not to sure on the frequencies involved in marine equipment, but > Radar and Radioused on your boat might cause interferance, you would > have to look into that. > > If you would like all your systems to be wireless just purchace PCI, > USB or PCMCIA Wireless client adapters for your systems and a > wireless router. The router you would want to place in a central > location between your systems for best signal performance. > > No Special equipment needed, just your everyday on sale wireless > networking equipment will do. > > Robert... > > "HA .com" <sanders@kernalhen> wrote in message > news:00050121175447.OUI16.sanders@kernalhen(HA).com... >> I'm new to wireless and have a different need than typical home or >> apartment dweller. >> >> Everything I've seen for consumers is designed for a wired broadband >> input that routes wireless to various pc's. I'm looking to do the >> opposite. >> >> I need to have a sort of wireless "base station" that would be my >> access to a wireless network. Then to that base (a router I guess) I >> will run wired/LAN connections to a 3 or 4 pc's. Or I could run >> wired to a couple and have short range wireless to another 1 or 2. >> >> Possible? >> >> The exact setup will be on a boat that receives wireless broadband >> from the marina. W/in the boat I can lay cables to a couple of >> cabins. It would be nice to be wireless from the "base" to a laptop >> in the cockpit, but I could run a cable there, too. >> >> Into my "base station: I would also plug in my internet telephone. > Have mine set up that way (wireless network with non internet Can I ask which hardware you use? And if you wanted to link your in-boat> connection in boat, RV, plane etc, just use it for the wireless > network part),> network to a wireless ISP, such as offered at many marina's along the ICW, how would you do that? Would the wireless router you use also make the broadband internet connect (if compatible standard of course)? 
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