> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with no luck.
> All D-Link equipment.
>
> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,
> desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a DFE-690TX (wired).
>   With the laptop, I had internet and communication with my desktop
> (lan).  No troubles.
>
> I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's
> adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly, good consistent
> signal strength, and I get internet access with apparently perfect
> reliability.  (It's good enough that I can't tell the difference between
> wireless & wired, as far as performance is concerned).
>
> However, the lan refuses to work.  I've tried everything I can think of,
> every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet.  Even updated the
> router's firmware.  No change.
>
> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan works
> fine.  That would seem to identify the adapter as the problem, but
> perhaps that's too simple an approach.
>
> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much spontaneous
> violence LAN problems can incite!  Any ideas?
>

"Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message
news:qB3Sd.2044$DW.980@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with no
luck.
> All D-Link equipment.
>
> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,
> desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a DFE-690TX
(wired).
>   With the laptop, I had internet and communication with my desktop
> (lan).  No troubles.
>
> I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's
> adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly, good consistent
> signal strength, and I get internet access with apparently perfect
> reliability.  (It's good enough that I can't tell the difference
between
> wireless & wired, as far as performance is concerned).
>
> However, the lan refuses to work.  I've tried everything I can think
of,
> every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet.  Even updated
the
> router's firmware.  No change.
>
> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan works
> fine.  That would seem to identify the adapter as the problem, but
> perhaps that's too simple an approach.
>
> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much spontaneous
> violence LAN problems can incite!  Any ideas?

"Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message
news:rc6Sd.2105$DW.512@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
>
> > On your wireless adapters properties you should have
> > 1. Client for Microsoft Networks
> > 2. File and Printer sharing
> > 3. TCP/IP
> >  Are these all installed and enabled?
> >
> > What OS and SP.  Do you have a firewall running?
> >
> > Under show all adapters (if using xp) you might try
> > running the Set up a home or small office network wizard.
> > It will ususally set up everything correctly.
> >
> >
>
> OS on both is Windows 2000.  Yes, I have the 3 properties (also
> NetBEUI).  Laptop has internet access with no problems.  Just no
LAN.
>
> Internet access works with or without security, so I've left
security
> off until I can actually get a lan connection.
>
> Sometimes, when searching for other computers, one will find the
other,
> but it won't be able to access.
>
> Very frustrating.  If I swap in the wired adapter on the laptop,
> everything's fine.

"Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message
news:rc6Sd.2105$DW.512@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
>
>> On your wireless adapters properties you should have
>> 1. Client for Microsoft Networks
>> 2. File and Printer sharing
>> 3. TCP/IP
>>  Are these all installed and enabled?
>>
>> What OS and SP.  Do you have a firewall running?
>>
>> Under show all adapters (if using xp) you might try
>> running the Set up a home or small office network wizard.
>> It will ususally set up everything correctly.
>>
>>
>
> OS on both is Windows 2000.  Yes, I have the 3 properties (also NetBEUI).
> Laptop has internet access with no problems.  Just no LAN.
>
> Internet access works with or without security, so I've left security off
> until I can actually get a lan connection.
>
> Sometimes, when searching for other computers, one will find the other,
> but it won't be able to access.
>
> Very frustrating.  If I swap in the wired adapter on the laptop,
> everything's fine.

"Andy" <a***@acservices.f9.co.uk> wrote in message
news:421e42a2$0$31665$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Hello
>         Sorry to post and not be of help. But this must be a normal
> persistant problem.. As I have the same  But mine is with differant kit. I
> have 4 PC'c on the wired part of a Linksys wag54g all with out any
> problems at all (they will talk and see each other allday long and have
> full internet access) As is yours my problem is the wirless on my laptop.
> I use the linksys 54g pcmcia card. But I have no problems in accessing the
> internet but no way can I see any of the PC's on the wired side of the
> router But if i put the laptop on the wired side it is all ok and logs on
> to the lan no problem.. Strange But same as yours.. Soor to be of no help
> . Infact hopping to piggy back your thread to get help myself Thanks
>
> regs Andy
>
> P.S. I have set up a IP address in the alternate configeration as it
> usually cannot find it from the router? could this be a problem
>
> "Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message
> news:rc6Sd.2105$DW.512@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>>> On your wireless adapters properties you should have
>>> 1. Client for Microsoft Networks
>>> 2. File and Printer sharing
>>> 3. TCP/IP
>>>  Are these all installed and enabled?
>>>
>>> What OS and SP.  Do you have a firewall running?
>>>
>>> Under show all adapters (if using xp) you might try
>>> running the Set up a home or small office network wizard.
>>> It will ususally set up everything correctly.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> OS on both is Windows 2000.  Yes, I have the 3 properties (also NetBEUI).
>> Laptop has internet access with no problems.  Just no LAN.
>>
>> Internet access works with or without security, so I've left security off
>> until I can actually get a lan connection.
>>
>> Sometimes, when searching for other computers, one will find the other,
>> but it won't be able to access.
>>
>> Very frustrating.  If I swap in the wired adapter on the laptop,
>> everything's fine.
>
>

"Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message
news:qB3Sd.2044$DW.980@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with no luck. All
> D-Link equipment.
>
> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,
> desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a DFE-690TX (wired).
> With the laptop, I had internet and communication with my desktop (lan).
> No troubles.
>
> I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's
> adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly, good consistent signal
> strength, and I get internet access with apparently perfect reliability.
> (It's good enough that I can't tell the difference between wireless &
> wired, as far as performance is concerned).
>
> However, the lan refuses to work.  I've tried everything I can think of,
> every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet.  Even updated the
> router's firmware.  No change.
>
> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan works fine.
> That would seem to identify the adapter as the problem, but perhaps that's
> too simple an approach.
>
> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much spontaneous violence
> LAN problems can incite!  Any ideas?

> If the Internet works then your hardware works. If you cant use your
> LAN, then you have a setting(s) wrong in your software.
>
> Im not familiar with windows 2000 so I wont try to walk you through
> the steps. This is the harfest part and biggest complaint of most of
> the poster in this newsgroup. Look around in other posts and you
> should find the answers, or someone else will show up to help.
>
> It is 100% your software (OS or Firewall) setup, dont get descuraged,
> you will get it.....
>
> Robert.....
>
>
> "Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message
> news:qB3Sd.2044$DW.980@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
>> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with no
>> luck. All D-Link equipment.
>>
>> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,
>> desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a DFE-690TX
>> (wired). With the laptop, I had internet and communication with my
>> desktop (lan). No troubles.
>>
>> I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's
>> adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly, good consistent
>> signal strength, and I get internet access with apparently perfect
>> reliability. (It's good enough that I can't tell the difference
>> between wireless & wired, as far as performance is concerned).
>>
>> However, the lan refuses to work.  I've tried everything I can think
>> of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet.  Even
>> updated the router's firmware.  No change.
>>
>> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan works
>> fine. That would seem to identify the adapter as the problem, but
>> perhaps that's too simple an approach.
>>
>> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much spontaneous
>> violence LAN problems can incite!  Any ideas?

"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:37sh4oF5gv0tjU1@individual.net...
> Actually in about 98% of those cases it is the SOFTWARE for the wireless
> adapter or router that is the problem.
> The two most often seen problems are the routers firmware, and the
> software for the WiFi card.
> That is usually the exact complaint (wired works fine, but no or flakey
> connect when wireless) I see most often, that is mainly fixd by download
> the software from the manufacturers sites.
> Try updating them both.. heck it's free and should only take you a few
> minutes..
>
> PP
>
> DLink Guru wrote:
>> If the Internet works then your hardware works. If you cant use your
>> LAN, then you have a setting(s) wrong in your software.
>>
>> Im not familiar with windows 2000 so I wont try to walk you through
>> the steps. This is the harfest part and biggest complaint of most of
>> the poster in this newsgroup. Look around in other posts and you
>> should find the answers, or someone else will show up to help.
>>
>> It is 100% your software (OS or Firewall) setup, dont get descuraged,
>> you will get it.....
>>
>> Robert.....
>>
>>
>> "Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message
>> news:qB3Sd.2044$DW.980@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
>>> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with no
>>> luck. All D-Link equipment.
>>>
>>> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,
>>> desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a DFE-690TX
>>> (wired). With the laptop, I had internet and communication with my
>>> desktop (lan). No troubles.
>>>
>>> I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's
>>> adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly, good consistent
>>> signal strength, and I get internet access with apparently perfect
>>> reliability. (It's good enough that I can't tell the difference
>>> between wireless & wired, as far as performance is concerned).
>>>
>>> However, the lan refuses to work.  I've tried everything I can think
>>> of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet.  Even
>>> updated the router's firmware.  No change.
>>>
>>> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan works
>>> fine. That would seem to identify the adapter as the problem, but
>>> perhaps that's too simple an approach.
>>>
>>> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much spontaneous
>>> violence LAN problems can incite!  Any ideas?
>
>

> Yes, but the internet would not work if it was a hardware problem. He
> says the internet connection is fine. So its software.
>
>
> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:37sh4oF5gv0tjU1@individual.net...
>> Actually in about 98% of those cases it is the SOFTWARE for the
>> wireless adapter or router that is the problem.
>> The two most often seen problems are the routers firmware, and the
>> software for the WiFi card.
>> That is usually the exact complaint (wired works fine, but no or
>> flakey connect when wireless) I see most often, that is mainly fixd
>> by download the software from the manufacturers sites.
>> Try updating them both.. heck it's free and should only take you a
>> few minutes..
>>
>> PP
>>
>> DLink Guru wrote:
>>> If the Internet works then your hardware works. If you cant use your
>>> LAN, then you have a setting(s) wrong in your software.
>>>
>>> Im not familiar with windows 2000 so I wont try to walk you through
>>> the steps. This is the harfest part and biggest complaint of most of
>>> the poster in this newsgroup. Look around in other posts and you
>>> should find the answers, or someone else will show up to help.
>>>
>>> It is 100% your software (OS or Firewall) setup, dont get
>>> descuraged, you will get it.....
>>>
>>> Robert.....
>>>
>>>
>>> "Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message
>>> news:qB3Sd.2044$DW.980@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
>>>> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with no
>>>> luck. All D-Link equipment.
>>>>
>>>> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,
>>>> desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a DFE-690TX
>>>> (wired). With the laptop, I had internet and communication with my
>>>> desktop (lan). No troubles.
>>>>
>>>> I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's
>>>> adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly, good consistent
>>>> signal strength, and I get internet access with apparently perfect
>>>> reliability. (It's good enough that I can't tell the difference
>>>> between wireless & wired, as far as performance is concerned).
>>>>
>>>> However, the lan refuses to work.  I've tried everything I can
>>>> think of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet. Even
>>>> updated the router's firmware.  No change.
>>>>
>>>> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan works
>>>> fine. That would seem to identify the adapter as the problem, but
>>>> perhaps that's too simple an approach.
>>>>
>>>> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much spontaneous
>>>> violence LAN problems can incite!  Any ideas?

"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:37smvfF5ings0U1@individual.net...
> He said it worked fine *WIRED* with the old router (I had a basic
> 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,)... then he tried  a
> different router AND the wireless cards ("I decided to go wireless.
> DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's adapter.".. Doesn't say if he got
> em new, updated the software (firmware in the router) or what.... and then
> ("If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan works
> fine.")....
>
> Sounds like recipe for the software for the wireless cards should probably
> be updated.
> From the Dlink Website at http://support.dlink.com/products/revision.asp
> There are 3 (Three) revisions of that card (that support website has
> different software for each version). Sure would be nice to know WHICH
> revision he has (the website shows how to find which of the 3 revisions
> <---  Hint Hint... :)
>
> As for your statement, a wap/router is actually 3 devices in one box... A
> Router, a connection to the input, and a wireless server that connects to
> both the router part and the connected to the input part... Any of the 3,
> or the connections to another part, can fail and cause those symptoms
> (like the link between the wireless DHCP server and the router)..... So
> the internet and the wireless can still work, if the hardware problem is
> in the router part, but I would sure check the software wireless card
> drivers and update em FIRST. That's much more likely.
>
> There is one more thing I would suggest... The reset button on the router
> is to the right of the power connector.. Push it in with the end of a pen
> for 10-15 seconds and reset it to out of the box settings...  (that makes
> absolutely sure there wasn't a typo or something that messed it up). Once
> you get it working, you can always add the security stuff back, but it's a
> reasonable thing to whack em all while trying to debug the thing.
>
>
> DLink Guru wrote:
>> Yes, but the internet would not work if it was a hardware problem. He
>> says the internet connection is fine. So its software.
>>
>>
>> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>> news:37sh4oF5gv0tjU1@individual.net...
>>> Actually in about 98% of those cases it is the SOFTWARE for the
>>> wireless adapter or router that is the problem.
>>> The two most often seen problems are the routers firmware, and the
>>> software for the WiFi card.
>>> That is usually the exact complaint (wired works fine, but no or
>>> flakey connect when wireless) I see most often, that is mainly fixd
>>> by download the software from the manufacturers sites.
>>> Try updating them both.. heck it's free and should only take you a
>>> few minutes..
>>>
>>> PP
>>>
>>> DLink Guru wrote:
>>>> If the Internet works then your hardware works. If you cant use your
>>>> LAN, then you have a setting(s) wrong in your software.
>>>>
>>>> Im not familiar with windows 2000 so I wont try to walk you through
>>>> the steps. This is the harfest part and biggest complaint of most of
>>>> the poster in this newsgroup. Look around in other posts and you
>>>> should find the answers, or someone else will show up to help.
>>>>
>>>> It is 100% your software (OS or Firewall) setup, dont get
>>>> descuraged, you will get it.....
>>>>
>>>> Robert.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message
>>>> news:qB3Sd.2044$DW.980@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with no
>>>>> luck. All D-Link equipment.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,
>>>>> desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a DFE-690TX
>>>>> (wired). With the laptop, I had internet and communication with my
>>>>> desktop (lan). No troubles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's
>>>>> adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly, good consistent
>>>>> signal strength, and I get internet access with apparently perfect
>>>>> reliability. (It's good enough that I can't tell the difference
>>>>> between wireless & wired, as far as performance is concerned).
>>>>>
>>>>> However, the lan refuses to work.  I've tried everything I can
>>>>> think of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet. Even
>>>>> updated the router's firmware.  No change.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan works
>>>>> fine. That would seem to identify the adapter as the problem, but
>>>>> perhaps that's too simple an approach.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much spontaneous
>>>>> violence LAN problems can incite!  Any ideas?
>
>

> Read it again....
>
> "I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's
> adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly, good consistent
> signal strength, and I get internet access with apparently perfect
> reliability.  (It's good enough that I can't tell the difference
> between wireless & wired, as far as performance is concerned).
>
> However, the lan refuses to work.  I've tried everything I can think
> of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet.  Even
> updated the router's firmware.  No change."
>
> He says the internet connection works fine, but the file sharing, he
> calls it LAN connection, does not.
>
>
>
> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:37smvfF5ings0U1@individual.net...
>> He said it worked fine *WIRED* with the old router (I had a basic
>> 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,)... then he
>> tried  a different router AND the wireless cards ("I decided to go
>> wireless. DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's adapter."..
>> Doesn't say if he got em new, updated the software (firmware in the
>> router) or what.... and then ("If I replace the wireless adapter
>> with the wired one, the lan works fine.")....
>>
>> Sounds like recipe for the software for the wireless cards should
>> probably be updated.
>> From the Dlink Website at
>> http://support.dlink.com/products/revision.asp There are 3 (Three)
>> revisions of that card (that support website has different software
>> for each version). Sure would be nice to know WHICH revision he has
>> (the website shows how to find which of the 3 revisions <---  Hint
>> Hint... :) As for your statement, a wap/router is actually 3 devices in
>> one
>> box... A Router, a connection to the input, and a wireless server
>> that connects to both the router part and the connected to the input
>> part... Any of the 3, or the connections to another part, can fail
>> and cause those symptoms (like the link between the wireless DHCP
>> server and the router)..... So the internet and the wireless can
>> still work, if the hardware problem is in the router part, but I
>> would sure check the software wireless card drivers and update em
>> FIRST. That's much more likely. There is one more thing I would
>> suggest... The reset button on the
>> router is to the right of the power connector.. Push it in with the
>> end of a pen for 10-15 seconds and reset it to out of the box
>> settings...  (that makes absolutely sure there wasn't a typo or
>> something that messed it up). Once you get it working, you can
>> always add the security stuff back, but it's a reasonable thing to
>> whack em all while trying to debug the thing. DLink Guru wrote:
>>> Yes, but the internet would not work if it was a hardware problem.
>>> He says the internet connection is fine. So its software.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>> news:37sh4oF5gv0tjU1@individual.net...
>>>> Actually in about 98% of those cases it is the SOFTWARE for the
>>>> wireless adapter or router that is the problem.
>>>> The two most often seen problems are the routers firmware, and the
>>>> software for the WiFi card.
>>>> That is usually the exact complaint (wired works fine, but no or
>>>> flakey connect when wireless) I see most often, that is mainly fixd
>>>> by download the software from the manufacturers sites.
>>>> Try updating them both.. heck it's free and should only take you a
>>>> few minutes..
>>>>
>>>> PP
>>>>
>>>> DLink Guru wrote:
>>>>> If the Internet works then your hardware works. If you cant use
>>>>> your LAN, then you have a setting(s) wrong in your software.
>>>>>
>>>>> Im not familiar with windows 2000 so I wont try to walk you
>>>>> through the steps. This is the harfest part and biggest complaint
>>>>> of most of the poster in this newsgroup. Look around in other
>>>>> posts and you should find the answers, or someone else will show
>>>>> up to help. It is 100% your software (OS or Firewall) setup, dont get
>>>>> descuraged, you will get it.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert.....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message
>>>>> news:qB3Sd.2044$DW.980@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>>> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with no
>>>>>> luck. All D-Link equipment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604
>>>>>> router, desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a
>>>>>> DFE-690TX (wired). With the laptop, I had internet and
>>>>>> communication with my desktop (lan). No troubles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the
>>>>>> laptop's adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly,
>>>>>> good consistent signal strength, and I get internet access with
>>>>>> apparently perfect reliability. (It's good enough that I can't
>>>>>> tell the difference between wireless & wired, as far as
>>>>>> performance is concerned). However, the lan refuses to work.  I've
>>>>>> tried everything I can
>>>>>> think of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet.
>>>>>> Even updated the router's firmware.  No change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan
>>>>>> works fine. That would seem to identify the adapter as the
>>>>>> problem, but perhaps that's too simple an approach.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much spontaneous
>>>>>> violence LAN problems can incite!  Any ideas?

"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:37sr6cF5hfmi7U1@individual.net...
> Yup.. and the one thing he specifically does *NOT* say is that he updated
> the *DWL-G630* software..
> There are 3 different revisions of that card, with different software for
> each revision, yet he absolutely hasn't updated it... Can't look up the
> revision dates/history without knowing if he has an A B or C revision..
>
> If he is running wireless, then he is NOT using the router at all... He's
> using the WAP/DHC* wireles server part, not the hardwire router part.
>
> The router is ONLY used for wired connections. The wireless connections
> are totally separate but connect to the router part.
>
> In other models like the 624 (don't know if it was an option on the 524)
> you can change it between WAP (only) and WAP & Router, it defaults to wap
> & router when the settings are reset.
>
>
> DLink Guru wrote:
>> Read it again....
>>
>> "I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's
>> adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly, good consistent
>> signal strength, and I get internet access with apparently perfect
>> reliability.  (It's good enough that I can't tell the difference
>> between wireless & wired, as far as performance is concerned).
>>
>> However, the lan refuses to work.  I've tried everything I can think
>> of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet.  Even
>> updated the router's firmware.  No change."
>>
>> He says the internet connection works fine, but the file sharing, he
>> calls it LAN connection, does not.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>> news:37smvfF5ings0U1@individual.net...
>>> He said it worked fine *WIRED* with the old router (I had a basic
>>> 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,)... then he
>>> tried  a different router AND the wireless cards ("I decided to go
>>> wireless. DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's adapter."..
>>> Doesn't say if he got em new, updated the software (firmware in the
>>> router) or what.... and then ("If I replace the wireless adapter
>>> with the wired one, the lan works fine.")....
>>>
>>> Sounds like recipe for the software for the wireless cards should
>>> probably be updated.
>>> From the Dlink Website at
>>> http://support.dlink.com/products/revision.asp There are 3 (Three)
>>> revisions of that card (that support website has different software
>>> for each version). Sure would be nice to know WHICH revision he has
>>> (the website shows how to find which of the 3 revisions <---  Hint
>>> Hint... :) As for your statement, a wap/router is actually 3 devices in
>>> one
>>> box... A Router, a connection to the input, and a wireless server
>>> that connects to both the router part and the connected to the input
>>> part... Any of the 3, or the connections to another part, can fail
>>> and cause those symptoms (like the link between the wireless DHCP
>>> server and the router)..... So the internet and the wireless can
>>> still work, if the hardware problem is in the router part, but I
>>> would sure check the software wireless card drivers and update em
>>> FIRST. That's much more likely. There is one more thing I would
>>> suggest... The reset button on the
>>> router is to the right of the power connector.. Push it in with the
>>> end of a pen for 10-15 seconds and reset it to out of the box
>>> settings...  (that makes absolutely sure there wasn't a typo or
>>> something that messed it up). Once you get it working, you can
>>> always add the security stuff back, but it's a reasonable thing to
>>> whack em all while trying to debug the thing. DLink Guru wrote:
>>>> Yes, but the internet would not work if it was a hardware problem.
>>>> He says the internet connection is fine. So its software.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:37sh4oF5gv0tjU1@individual.net...
>>>>> Actually in about 98% of those cases it is the SOFTWARE for the
>>>>> wireless adapter or router that is the problem.
>>>>> The two most often seen problems are the routers firmware, and the
>>>>> software for the WiFi card.
>>>>> That is usually the exact complaint (wired works fine, but no or
>>>>> flakey connect when wireless) I see most often, that is mainly fixd
>>>>> by download the software from the manufacturers sites.
>>>>> Try updating them both.. heck it's free and should only take you a
>>>>> few minutes..
>>>>>
>>>>> PP
>>>>>
>>>>> DLink Guru wrote:
>>>>>> If the Internet works then your hardware works. If you cant use
>>>>>> your LAN, then you have a setting(s) wrong in your software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Im not familiar with windows 2000 so I wont try to walk you
>>>>>> through the steps. This is the harfest part and biggest complaint
>>>>>> of most of the poster in this newsgroup. Look around in other
>>>>>> posts and you should find the answers, or someone else will show
>>>>>> up to help. It is 100% your software (OS or Firewall) setup, dont get
>>>>>> descuraged, you will get it.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:qB3Sd.2044$DW.980@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>>>> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with no
>>>>>>> luck. All D-Link equipment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604
>>>>>>> router, desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a
>>>>>>> DFE-690TX (wired). With the laptop, I had internet and
>>>>>>> communication with my desktop (lan). No troubles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the
>>>>>>> laptop's adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly,
>>>>>>> good consistent signal strength, and I get internet access with
>>>>>>> apparently perfect reliability. (It's good enough that I can't
>>>>>>> tell the difference between wireless & wired, as far as
>>>>>>> performance is concerned). However, the lan refuses to work.  I've
>>>>>>> tried everything I can
>>>>>>> think of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet.
>>>>>>> Even updated the router's firmware.  No change.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan
>>>>>>> works fine. That would seem to identify the adapter as the
>>>>>>> problem, but perhaps that's too simple an approach.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much spontaneous
>>>>>>> violence LAN problems can incite!  Any ideas?
>
>

> The router section is being used for the internet connection.
>
> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:37sr6cF5hfmi7U1@individual.net...
>> Yup.. and the one thing he specifically does *NOT* say is that he
>> updated the *DWL-G630* software..
>> There are 3 different revisions of that card, with different
>> software for each revision, yet he absolutely hasn't updated it...
>> Can't look up the revision dates/history without knowing if he has
>> an A B or C revision.. If he is running wireless, then he is NOT using
>> the router at all...
>> He's using the WAP/DHC* wireles server part, not the hardwire router
>> part. The router is ONLY used for wired connections. The wireless
>> connections are totally separate but connect to the router part.
>>
>> In other models like the 624 (don't know if it was an option on the
>> 524) you can change it between WAP (only) and WAP & Router, it
>> defaults to wap & router when the settings are reset.
>>
>>
>> DLink Guru wrote:
>>> Read it again....
>>>
>>> "I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's
>>> adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly, good consistent
>>> signal strength, and I get internet access with apparently perfect
>>> reliability.  (It's good enough that I can't tell the difference
>>> between wireless & wired, as far as performance is concerned).
>>>
>>> However, the lan refuses to work.  I've tried everything I can think
>>> of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet.  Even
>>> updated the router's firmware.  No change."
>>>
>>> He says the internet connection works fine, but the file sharing, he
>>> calls it LAN connection, does not.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>> news:37smvfF5ings0U1@individual.net...
>>>> He said it worked fine *WIRED* with the old router (I had a basic
>>>> 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,)... then he
>>>> tried  a different router AND the wireless cards ("I decided to go
>>>> wireless. DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's adapter."..
>>>> Doesn't say if he got em new, updated the software (firmware in the
>>>> router) or what.... and then ("If I replace the wireless adapter
>>>> with the wired one, the lan works fine.")....
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like recipe for the software for the wireless cards should
>>>> probably be updated.
>>>> From the Dlink Website at
>>>> http://support.dlink.com/products/revision.asp There are 3 (Three)
>>>> revisions of that card (that support website has different software
>>>> for each version). Sure would be nice to know WHICH revision he has
>>>> (the website shows how to find which of the 3 revisions <---  Hint
>>>> Hint... :) As for your statement, a wap/router is actually 3
>>>> devices in one
>>>> box... A Router, a connection to the input, and a wireless server
>>>> that connects to both the router part and the connected to the
>>>> input part... Any of the 3, or the connections to another part,
>>>> can fail and cause those symptoms (like the link between the wireless
>>>> DHCP
>>>> server and the router)..... So the internet and the wireless can
>>>> still work, if the hardware problem is in the router part, but I
>>>> would sure check the software wireless card drivers and update em
>>>> FIRST. That's much more likely. There is one more thing I would
>>>> suggest... The reset button on the
>>>> router is to the right of the power connector.. Push it in with the
>>>> end of a pen for 10-15 seconds and reset it to out of the box
>>>> settings...  (that makes absolutely sure there wasn't a typo or
>>>> something that messed it up). Once you get it working, you can
>>>> always add the security stuff back, but it's a reasonable thing to
>>>> whack em all while trying to debug the thing. DLink Guru wrote:
>>>>> Yes, but the internet would not work if it was a hardware problem.
>>>>> He says the internet connection is fine. So its software.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:37sh4oF5gv0tjU1@individual.net...
>>>>>> Actually in about 98% of those cases it is the SOFTWARE for the
>>>>>> wireless adapter or router that is the problem.
>>>>>> The two most often seen problems are the routers firmware, and
>>>>>> the software for the WiFi card.
>>>>>> That is usually the exact complaint (wired works fine, but no or
>>>>>> flakey connect when wireless) I see most often, that is mainly
>>>>>> fixd by download the software from the manufacturers sites.
>>>>>> Try updating them both.. heck it's free and should only take you
>>>>>> a few minutes..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DLink Guru wrote:
>>>>>>> If the Internet works then your hardware works. If you cant use
>>>>>>> your LAN, then you have a setting(s) wrong in your software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Im not familiar with windows 2000 so I wont try to walk you
>>>>>>> through the steps. This is the harfest part and biggest
>>>>>>> complaint of most of the poster in this newsgroup. Look around in
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> posts and you should find the answers, or someone else will show
>>>>>>> up to help. It is 100% your software (OS or Firewall) setup,
>>>>>>> dont get descuraged, you will get it.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:qB3Sd.2044$DW.980@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>>>>> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with
>>>>>>>> no luck. All D-Link equipment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604
>>>>>>>> router, desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a
>>>>>>>> DFE-690TX (wired). With the laptop, I had internet and
>>>>>>>> communication with my desktop (lan). No troubles.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the
>>>>>>>> laptop's adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly,
>>>>>>>> good consistent signal strength, and I get internet access with
>>>>>>>> apparently perfect reliability. (It's good enough that I can't
>>>>>>>> tell the difference between wireless & wired, as far as
>>>>>>>> performance is concerned). However, the lan refuses to work. I've
>>>>>>>> tried everything I can
>>>>>>>> think of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet.
>>>>>>>> Even updated the router's firmware.  No change.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan
>>>>>>>> works fine. That would seem to identify the adapter as the
>>>>>>>> problem, but perhaps that's too simple an approach.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much
>>>>>>>> spontaneous violence LAN problems can incite!  Any ideas?

"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:37t58sF5hfpnlU1@individual.net...
> Nope.... As I have said many times, there are three parts to a
> wap/router.. One the part that is connected to the wan/dsl/cable/input,
> and provides internet to both the router and the wap part.. The WAP, and
> the router. Both the router (wired) and the wap (wireless) part are
> supplied by the third part.
>
>
> DLink Guru wrote:
>> The router section is being used for the internet connection.
>>
>> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>> news:37sr6cF5hfmi7U1@individual.net...
>>> Yup.. and the one thing he specifically does *NOT* say is that he
>>> updated the *DWL-G630* software..
>>> There are 3 different revisions of that card, with different
>>> software for each revision, yet he absolutely hasn't updated it...
>>> Can't look up the revision dates/history without knowing if he has
>>> an A B or C revision.. If he is running wireless, then he is NOT using
>>> the router at all...
>>> He's using the WAP/DHC* wireles server part, not the hardwire router
>>> part. The router is ONLY used for wired connections. The wireless
>>> connections are totally separate but connect to the router part.
>>>
>>> In other models like the 624 (don't know if it was an option on the
>>> 524) you can change it between WAP (only) and WAP & Router, it
>>> defaults to wap & router when the settings are reset.
>>>
>>>
>>> DLink Guru wrote:
>>>> Read it again....
>>>>
>>>> "I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's
>>>> adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly, good consistent
>>>> signal strength, and I get internet access with apparently perfect
>>>> reliability.  (It's good enough that I can't tell the difference
>>>> between wireless & wired, as far as performance is concerned).
>>>>
>>>> However, the lan refuses to work.  I've tried everything I can think
>>>> of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet.  Even
>>>> updated the router's firmware.  No change."
>>>>
>>>> He says the internet connection works fine, but the file sharing, he
>>>> calls it LAN connection, does not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:37smvfF5ings0U1@individual.net...
>>>>> He said it worked fine *WIRED* with the old router (I had a basic
>>>>> 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,)... then he
>>>>> tried  a different router AND the wireless cards ("I decided to go
>>>>> wireless. DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's adapter."..
>>>>> Doesn't say if he got em new, updated the software (firmware in the
>>>>> router) or what.... and then ("If I replace the wireless adapter
>>>>> with the wired one, the lan works fine.")....
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like recipe for the software for the wireless cards should
>>>>> probably be updated.
>>>>> From the Dlink Website at
>>>>> http://support.dlink.com/products/revision.asp There are 3 (Three)
>>>>> revisions of that card (that support website has different software
>>>>> for each version). Sure would be nice to know WHICH revision he has
>>>>> (the website shows how to find which of the 3 revisions <---  Hint
>>>>> Hint... :) As for your statement, a wap/router is actually 3
>>>>> devices in one
>>>>> box... A Router, a connection to the input, and a wireless server
>>>>> that connects to both the router part and the connected to the
>>>>> input part... Any of the 3, or the connections to another part,
>>>>> can fail and cause those symptoms (like the link between the wireless
>>>>> DHCP
>>>>> server and the router)..... So the internet and the wireless can
>>>>> still work, if the hardware problem is in the router part, but I
>>>>> would sure check the software wireless card drivers and update em
>>>>> FIRST. That's much more likely. There is one more thing I would
>>>>> suggest... The reset button on the
>>>>> router is to the right of the power connector.. Push it in with the
>>>>> end of a pen for 10-15 seconds and reset it to out of the box
>>>>> settings...  (that makes absolutely sure there wasn't a typo or
>>>>> something that messed it up). Once you get it working, you can
>>>>> always add the security stuff back, but it's a reasonable thing to
>>>>> whack em all while trying to debug the thing. DLink Guru wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, but the internet would not work if it was a hardware problem.
>>>>>> He says the internet connection is fine. So its software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:37sh4oF5gv0tjU1@individual.net...
>>>>>>> Actually in about 98% of those cases it is the SOFTWARE for the
>>>>>>> wireless adapter or router that is the problem.
>>>>>>> The two most often seen problems are the routers firmware, and
>>>>>>> the software for the WiFi card.
>>>>>>> That is usually the exact complaint (wired works fine, but no or
>>>>>>> flakey connect when wireless) I see most often, that is mainly
>>>>>>> fixd by download the software from the manufacturers sites.
>>>>>>> Try updating them both.. heck it's free and should only take you
>>>>>>> a few minutes..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DLink Guru wrote:
>>>>>>>> If the Internet works then your hardware works. If you cant use
>>>>>>>> your LAN, then you have a setting(s) wrong in your software.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Im not familiar with windows 2000 so I wont try to walk you
>>>>>>>> through the steps. This is the harfest part and biggest
>>>>>>>> complaint of most of the poster in this newsgroup. Look around in
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> posts and you should find the answers, or someone else will show
>>>>>>>> up to help. It is 100% your software (OS or Firewall) setup,
>>>>>>>> dont get descuraged, you will get it.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:qB3Sd.2044$DW.980@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>>>>>> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with
>>>>>>>>> no luck. All D-Link equipment.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604
>>>>>>>>> router, desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a
>>>>>>>>> DFE-690TX (wired). With the laptop, I had internet and
>>>>>>>>> communication with my desktop (lan). No troubles.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the
>>>>>>>>> laptop's adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly,
>>>>>>>>> good consistent signal strength, and I get internet access with
>>>>>>>>> apparently perfect reliability. (It's good enough that I can't
>>>>>>>>> tell the difference between wireless & wired, as far as
>>>>>>>>> performance is concerned). However, the lan refuses to work. I've
>>>>>>>>> tried everything I can
>>>>>>>>> think of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet.
>>>>>>>>> Even updated the router's firmware.  No change.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan
>>>>>>>>> works fine. That would seem to identify the adapter as the
>>>>>>>>> problem, but perhaps that's too simple an approach.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much
>>>>>>>>> spontaneous violence LAN problems can incite!  Any ideas?
>
>

> You are lost. The router supplies Internet connection to the built in
> Wap and Hub/Switch parts of the unite.
>
> I have been building/repairing wired and wireless equipment for over 9
> years, first started working at proxim and then 2wire.
>
> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:37t58sF5hfpnlU1@individual.net...
>> Nope.... As I have said many times, there are three parts to a
>> wap/router.. One the part that is connected to the
>> wan/dsl/cable/input, and provides internet to both the router and
>> the wap part.. The WAP, and the router. Both the router (wired) and
>> the wap (wireless) part are supplied by the third part.
>>
>>
>> DLink Guru wrote:
>>> The router section is being used for the internet connection.
>>>
>>> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>> news:37sr6cF5hfmi7U1@individual.net...
>>>> Yup.. and the one thing he specifically does *NOT* say is that he
>>>> updated the *DWL-G630* software..
>>>> There are 3 different revisions of that card, with different
>>>> software for each revision, yet he absolutely hasn't updated it...
>>>> Can't look up the revision dates/history without knowing if he has
>>>> an A B or C revision.. If he is running wireless, then he is NOT
>>>> using the router at all...
>>>> He's using the WAP/DHC* wireles server part, not the hardwire
>>>> router part. The router is ONLY used for wired connections. The
>>>> wireless connections are totally separate but connect to the
>>>> router part. In other models like the 624 (don't know if it was an
>>>> option on the
>>>> 524) you can change it between WAP (only) and WAP & Router, it
>>>> defaults to wap & router when the settings are reset.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DLink Guru wrote:
>>>>> Read it again....
>>>>>
>>>>> "I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the
>>>>> laptop's adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly, good
>>>>> consistent signal strength, and I get internet access with
>>>>> apparently perfect reliability.  (It's good enough that I can't
>>>>> tell the difference between wireless & wired, as far as
>>>>> performance is concerned). However, the lan refuses to work.  I've
>>>>> tried everything I can
>>>>> think of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet. Even
>>>>> updated the router's firmware.  No change."
>>>>>
>>>>> He says the internet connection works fine, but the file sharing,
>>>>> he calls it LAN connection, does not.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:37smvfF5ings0U1@individual.net...
>>>>>> He said it worked fine *WIRED* with the old router (I had a basic
>>>>>> 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,)... then he
>>>>>> tried  a different router AND the wireless cards ("I decided to
>>>>>> go wireless. DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's adapter."..
>>>>>> Doesn't say if he got em new, updated the software (firmware in
>>>>>> the router) or what.... and then ("If I replace the wireless
>>>>>> adapter with the wired one, the lan works fine.")....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds like recipe for the software for the wireless cards should
>>>>>> probably be updated.
>>>>>> From the Dlink Website at
>>>>>> http://support.dlink.com/products/revision.asp There are 3
>>>>>> (Three) revisions of that card (that support website has
>>>>>> different software for each version). Sure would be nice to know
>>>>>> WHICH revision he has (the website shows how to find which of
>>>>>> the 3 revisions <---  Hint Hint... :) As for your statement, a
>>>>>> wap/router is actually 3 devices in one
>>>>>> box... A Router, a connection to the input, and a wireless server
>>>>>> that connects to both the router part and the connected to the
>>>>>> input part... Any of the 3, or the connections to another part,
>>>>>> can fail and cause those symptoms (like the link between the
>>>>>> wireless DHCP
>>>>>> server and the router)..... So the internet and the wireless can
>>>>>> still work, if the hardware problem is in the router part, but I
>>>>>> would sure check the software wireless card drivers and update em
>>>>>> FIRST. That's much more likely. There is one more thing I would
>>>>>> suggest... The reset button on the
>>>>>> router is to the right of the power connector.. Push it in with
>>>>>> the end of a pen for 10-15 seconds and reset it to out of the box
>>>>>> settings...  (that makes absolutely sure there wasn't a typo or
>>>>>> something that messed it up). Once you get it working, you can
>>>>>> always add the security stuff back, but it's a reasonable thing
>>>>>> to whack em all while trying to debug the thing. DLink Guru
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Yes, but the internet would not work if it was a hardware
>>>>>>> problem. He says the internet connection is fine. So its
>>>>>>> software. "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>> news:37sh4oF5gv0tjU1@individual.net...
>>>>>>>> Actually in about 98% of those cases it is the SOFTWARE for the
>>>>>>>> wireless adapter or router that is the problem.
>>>>>>>> The two most often seen problems are the routers firmware, and
>>>>>>>> the software for the WiFi card.
>>>>>>>> That is usually the exact complaint (wired works fine, but no
>>>>>>>> or flakey connect when wireless) I see most often, that is
>>>>>>>> mainly fixd by download the software from the manufacturers
>>>>>>>> sites. Try updating them both.. heck it's free and should only take
>>>>>>>> you a few minutes..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DLink Guru wrote:
>>>>>>>>> If the Internet works then your hardware works. If you cant
>>>>>>>>> use your LAN, then you have a setting(s) wrong in your
>>>>>>>>> software. Im not familiar with windows 2000 so I wont try to walk
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> through the steps. This is the harfest part and biggest
>>>>>>>>> complaint of most of the poster in this newsgroup. Look
>>>>>>>>> around in other
>>>>>>>>> posts and you should find the answers, or someone else will
>>>>>>>>> show up to help. It is 100% your software (OS or Firewall)
>>>>>>>>> setup, dont get descuraged, you will get it.....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Robert.....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:qB3Sd.2044$DW.980@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>>>>>>> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with
>>>>>>>>>> no luck. All D-Link equipment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604
>>>>>>>>>> router, desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a
>>>>>>>>>> DFE-690TX (wired). With the laptop, I had internet and
>>>>>>>>>> communication with my desktop (lan). No troubles.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the
>>>>>>>>>> laptop's adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly,
>>>>>>>>>> good consistent signal strength, and I get internet access
>>>>>>>>>> with apparently perfect reliability. (It's good enough that
>>>>>>>>>> I can't tell the difference between wireless & wired, as far
>>>>>>>>>> as performance is concerned). However, the lan refuses to
>>>>>>>>>> work. I've tried everything I can
>>>>>>>>>> think of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on
>>>>>>>>>> usenet. Even updated the router's firmware.  No change.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan
>>>>>>>>>> works fine. That would seem to identify the adapter as the
>>>>>>>>>> problem, but perhaps that's too simple an approach.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much
>>>>>>>>>> spontaneous violence LAN problems can incite!  Any ideas?

"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:37t9k0F5hhv1kU1@individual.net...
> No wonder you have no clue about how something actually works...
> Thanks.. I've been consulting for 24+ years making lots of money cuz
> stupid people have things all screwed up..
>
>
>
> DLink Guru wrote:
>> You are lost. The router supplies Internet connection to the built in
>> Wap and Hub/Switch parts of the unite.
>>
>> I have been building/repairing wired and wireless equipment for over 9
>> years, first started working at proxim and then 2wire.
>>
>> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>> news:37t58sF5hfpnlU1@individual.net...
>>> Nope.... As I have said many times, there are three parts to a
>>> wap/router.. One the part that is connected to the
>>> wan/dsl/cable/input, and provides internet to both the router and
>>> the wap part.. The WAP, and the router. Both the router (wired) and
>>> the wap (wireless) part are supplied by the third part.
>>>
>>>
>>> DLink Guru wrote:
>>>> The router section is being used for the internet connection.
>>>>
>>>> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:37sr6cF5hfmi7U1@individual.net...
>>>>> Yup.. and the one thing he specifically does *NOT* say is that he
>>>>> updated the *DWL-G630* software..
>>>>> There are 3 different revisions of that card, with different
>>>>> software for each revision, yet he absolutely hasn't updated it...
>>>>> Can't look up the revision dates/history without knowing if he has
>>>>> an A B or C revision.. If he is running wireless, then he is NOT
>>>>> using the router at all...
>>>>> He's using the WAP/DHC* wireles server part, not the hardwire
>>>>> router part. The router is ONLY used for wired connections. The
>>>>> wireless connections are totally separate but connect to the
>>>>> router part. In other models like the 624 (don't know if it was an
>>>>> option on the
>>>>> 524) you can change it between WAP (only) and WAP & Router, it
>>>>> defaults to wap & router when the settings are reset.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> DLink Guru wrote:
>>>>>> Read it again....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the
>>>>>> laptop's adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly, good
>>>>>> consistent signal strength, and I get internet access with
>>>>>> apparently perfect reliability.  (It's good enough that I can't
>>>>>> tell the difference between wireless & wired, as far as
>>>>>> performance is concerned). However, the lan refuses to work.  I've
>>>>>> tried everything I can
>>>>>> think of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet. Even
>>>>>> updated the router's firmware.  No change."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He says the internet connection works fine, but the file sharing,
>>>>>> he calls it LAN connection, does not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:37smvfF5ings0U1@individual.net...
>>>>>>> He said it worked fine *WIRED* with the old router (I had a basic
>>>>>>> 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,)... then he
>>>>>>> tried  a different router AND the wireless cards ("I decided to
>>>>>>> go wireless. DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's adapter."..
>>>>>>> Doesn't say if he got em new, updated the software (firmware in
>>>>>>> the router) or what.... and then ("If I replace the wireless
>>>>>>> adapter with the wired one, the lan works fine.")....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds like recipe for the software for the wireless cards should
>>>>>>> probably be updated.
>>>>>>> From the Dlink Website at
>>>>>>> http://support.dlink.com/products/revision.asp There are 3
>>>>>>> (Three) revisions of that card (that support website has
>>>>>>> different software for each version). Sure would be nice to know
>>>>>>> WHICH revision he has (the website shows how to find which of
>>>>>>> the 3 revisions <---  Hint Hint... :) As for your statement, a
>>>>>>> wap/router is actually 3 devices in one
>>>>>>> box... A Router, a connection to the input, and a wireless server
>>>>>>> that connects to both the router part and the connected to the
>>>>>>> input part... Any of the 3, or the connections to another part,
>>>>>>> can fail and cause those symptoms (like the link between the
>>>>>>> wireless DHCP
>>>>>>> server and the router)..... So the internet and the wireless can
>>>>>>> still work, if the hardware problem is in the router part, but I
>>>>>>> would sure check the software wireless card drivers and update em
>>>>>>> FIRST. That's much more likely. There is one more thing I would
>>>>>>> suggest... The reset button on the
>>>>>>> router is to the right of the power connector.. Push it in with
>>>>>>> the end of a pen for 10-15 seconds and reset it to out of the box
>>>>>>> settings...  (that makes absolutely sure there wasn't a typo or
>>>>>>> something that messed it up). Once you get it working, you can
>>>>>>> always add the security stuff back, but it's a reasonable thing
>>>>>>> to whack em all while trying to debug the thing. DLink Guru
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yes, but the internet would not work if it was a hardware
>>>>>>>> problem. He says the internet connection is fine. So its
>>>>>>>> software. "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>> news:37sh4oF5gv0tjU1@individual.net...
>>>>>>>>> Actually in about 98% of those cases it is the SOFTWARE for the
>>>>>>>>> wireless adapter or router that is the problem.
>>>>>>>>> The two most often seen problems are the routers firmware, and
>>>>>>>>> the software for the WiFi card.
>>>>>>>>> That is usually the exact complaint (wired works fine, but no
>>>>>>>>> or flakey connect when wireless) I see most often, that is
>>>>>>>>> mainly fixd by download the software from the manufacturers
>>>>>>>>> sites. Try updating them both.. heck it's free and should only
>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>> you a few minutes..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PP
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> DLink Guru wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> If the Internet works then your hardware works. If you cant
>>>>>>>>>> use your LAN, then you have a setting(s) wrong in your
>>>>>>>>>> software. Im not familiar with windows 2000 so I wont try to walk
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> through the steps. This is the harfest part and biggest
>>>>>>>>>> complaint of most of the poster in this newsgroup. Look
>>>>>>>>>> around in other
>>>>>>>>>> posts and you should find the answers, or someone else will
>>>>>>>>>> show up to help. It is 100% your software (OS or Firewall)
>>>>>>>>>> setup, dont get descuraged, you will get it.....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Robert.....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:qB3Sd.2044$DW.980@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with
>>>>>>>>>>> no luck. All D-Link equipment.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604
>>>>>>>>>>> router, desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a
>>>>>>>>>>> DFE-690TX (wired). With the laptop, I had internet and
>>>>>>>>>>> communication with my desktop (lan). No troubles.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I decided to go wireless.  DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the
>>>>>>>>>>> laptop's adapter.  The laptop links to the router perfectly,
>>>>>>>>>>> good consistent signal strength, and I get internet access
>>>>>>>>>>> with apparently perfect reliability. (It's good enough that
>>>>>>>>>>> I can't tell the difference between wireless & wired, as far
>>>>>>>>>>> as performance is concerned). However, the lan refuses to
>>>>>>>>>>> work. I've tried everything I can
>>>>>>>>>>> think of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on
>>>>>>>>>>> usenet. Even updated the router's firmware.  No change.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan
>>>>>>>>>>> works fine. That would seem to identify the adapter as the
>>>>>>>>>>> problem, but perhaps that's too simple an approach.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much
>>>>>>>>>>> spontaneous violence LAN problems can incite!  Any ideas?
>
>

> Peter Pan wrote:
>
>> Yup.. and the one thing he specifically does *NOT* say is that he
>> updated the *DWL-G630* software..
>
> That's where I am at this point.  I downloaded the software for my
> version ('C') of the adapter, and it doesn't match what was supplied
> in the package (on the accompanying CD, anyway).
>
> We'll see if that helps any, but now I can't seem to get any file
> sharing at all to work, even reverting to the 604 and the wired
> adapter...  getting annoying.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> RB

"Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message
news:zj9Sd.33480$by5.1590@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
> Peter Pan wrote:
>> Actually in about 98% of those cases it is the SOFTWARE for the wireless
>> adapter or router that is the problem.
>> The two most often seen problems are the routers firmware, and the
>> software for the WiFi card.
>> That is usually the exact complaint (wired works fine, but no or flakey
>> connect when wireless) I see most often, that is mainly fixd by download
>> the software from the manufacturers sites.
>> Try updating them both.. heck it's free and should only take you a few
>> minutes..
>>
>> PP
>>
>
> I did that right off the bat.  There was a minor update for the router,
> and no update is out there for the adapter.  I'm not sure what else I can
> check.
>
> I appreciate the suggestions from everyone, and I haven't given up, but
> this is just an exercise in frustration.   Odd that internet works OK but
> no LAN.  Oh well...

> Peter Pan wrote:
>> Actually in about 98% of those cases it is the SOFTWARE for the
>> wireless adapter or router that is the problem.
>> The two most often seen problems are the routers firmware, and the
>> software for the WiFi card.
>> That is usually the exact complaint (wired works fine, but no or
>> flakey connect when wireless) I see most often, that is mainly fixd
>> by download the software from the manufacturers sites.
>> Try updating them both.. heck it's free and should only take you a
>> few minutes..
>>
>> PP
>>
>
> I did that right off the bat.  There was a minor update for the
> router, and no update is out there for the adapter.  I'm not sure
> what else I can check.
>
> I appreciate the suggestions from everyone, and I haven't given up,
> but this is just an exercise in frustration.   Odd that internet
> works OK but no LAN.  Oh well...

> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:16:06 GMT, Robert Barr <not@for.harvest> wrote:
>
>
>>This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much spontaneous
>>violence LAN problems can incite!  Any ideas?
>
>
> Violence works, but only once. 
>
> Just to be sure there's no presumptions, can I assume that you
> replaced the DI-604 router with a DI-524 router?
>
> There seems to be quite a few comments about version 1.05 firmware for
> the DLink DI-524 rev A1 router being defective.  (Rev C1 hardware
> users 3.x firmware).  The usual recommendation is to downgrade to
> 1.03.  See:
>   news:okdg11ptsf6aiilsm1qb3kgi1q4ge4t068@4ax.com
> for my latest comments on the topic for a different DI-524 problem.
>
> No clue if this will help, but if you're out of options, might as well
> try a firmware downgrade.
>

> Robert Barr wrote:
>
>>>>I considered a drop from a 9-story building onto bare concrete, but
>>>>I live in a 1-story home.
>>>
>>>
>>>Suicide is the ultimate form of protest but is probably not necessary
>>>to convince the router to work.
>>
>>Actually, I was pretty much planning to watch the results from the
>>safety of the upper floor window... the equipment would be taking the
>>plunge.  Perhaps a good knock could straighten something out.
>
>
> Even more reason to blast it with a shotgun instead... That big ole gaping
> hole in it will make it pretty obvious why it doesn't work :)
>
>

> I popped a new adapter into the desktop -- a D-Link this time, instead
> of the motherboard-based adapter.  Everything works great.
>
> WTF.
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions.  Including the one about the shotgun.
>
> RB
>
> Peter Pan wrote:
>> Robert Barr wrote:
>>
>>>>> I considered a drop from a 9-story building onto bare concrete,
>>>>> but I live in a 1-story home.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Suicide is the ultimate form of protest but is probably not
>>>> necessary to convince the router to work.
>>>
>>> Actually, I was pretty much planning to watch the results from the
>>> safety of the upper floor window... the equipment would be taking
>>> the plunge.  Perhaps a good knock could straighten something out.
>>
>>
>> Even more reason to blast it with a shotgun instead... That big ole
>> gaping hole in it will make it pretty obvious why it doesn't work :)