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Belkin F5D7050 oddity

Author
13 Feb 2005 12:21 AM
Allan Anderson
In my XPSP2 laptop, I have a Belkin F5D7070 USB wireless dongle adapter
connecting to a Linksys WAG54G a few feet away.  The Belkin monitor utility
displays an animated representation of the adapter correctly connecting to
the router and thence to the internet.  Every 60 seconds, it shows the
connection from router to internet to be broken, and 10 seconds later to be
restored, repeatedly.

While experimenting, I ran a continuous ping to my ISP and was surprised to
see that the pinging was unaffected, even when the monitor was showing the
connection broken.  I've tried different channels, static and DHCP,
reloading the driver numerous times.  Nothing I tried changed the pattern.

There is also a PCMCIA Linksys WPC54G adapter in the laptop and this does
not show any similar symptom.  This adapter I disable when testing the
Belkin.  There is no other connection to the router, and I've never detected
any other network in the vicinity.

I've sent numerous emails to Belkin support, which they always reply to but
never seem to read.

Other than ignoring the condition, has anyone experienced this, or can
anyone suggest a fix, or even a cause?

Thanks

--
Allan Anderson
http://www.aganderson.me.uk
Researching -
KAYLL (IOM, anywhere)
GLANVILL/E (Liverpool, Berkshire)
ANDERSON (Kirkcudbrightshire, Dumfries)
DOBIE, BEGG, GIBSON, MARTIN (Kirkcudbrightshire)

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Author
13 Feb 2005 12:35 AM
Robert Jacobs
if its not causing any surfing or real connection problems, ignore it.


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"Allan Anderson" <agander***@remove-this.ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In my XPSP2 laptop, I have a Belkin F5D7070 USB wireless dongle adapter
> connecting to a Linksys WAG54G a few feet away.  The Belkin monitor
> utility displays an animated representation of the adapter correctly
> connecting to the router and thence to the internet.  Every 60 seconds, it
> shows the connection from router to internet to be broken, and 10 seconds
> later to be restored, repeatedly.
>
> While experimenting, I ran a continuous ping to my ISP and was surprised
> to see that the pinging was unaffected, even when the monitor was showing
> the connection broken.  I've tried different channels, static and DHCP,
> reloading the driver numerous times.  Nothing I tried changed the pattern.
>
> There is also a PCMCIA Linksys WPC54G adapter in the laptop and this does
> not show any similar symptom.  This adapter I disable when testing the
> Belkin.  There is no other connection to the router, and I've never
> detected any other network in the vicinity.
>
> I've sent numerous emails to Belkin support, which they always reply to
> but never seem to read.
>
> Other than ignoring the condition, has anyone experienced this, or can
> anyone suggest a fix, or even a cause?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Allan Anderson
> http://www.aganderson.me.uk
> Researching -
> KAYLL (IOM, anywhere)
> GLANVILL/E (Liverpool, Berkshire)
> ANDERSON (Kirkcudbrightshire, Dumfries)
> DOBIE, BEGG, GIBSON, MARTIN (Kirkcudbrightshire)
>
> {Please reply to newsgroup.  My email address has TRAPs.}
>
Author
13 Feb 2005 5:16 PM
Harvey Gratt
I believe that the Win XP Wireless Zero Configuration has an
authentication mode. Make sure it's off.

Hope this helps.
Harvey



Allan Anderson wrote:

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> In my XPSP2 laptop, I have a Belkin F5D7070 USB wireless dongle adapter
> connecting to a Linksys WAG54G a few feet away.  The Belkin monitor utility
> displays an animated representation of the adapter correctly connecting to
> the router and thence to the internet.  Every 60 seconds, it shows the
> connection from router to internet to be broken, and 10 seconds later to be
> restored, repeatedly.
>
> While experimenting, I ran a continuous ping to my ISP and was surprised to
> see that the pinging was unaffected, even when the monitor was showing the
> connection broken.  I've tried different channels, static and DHCP,
> reloading the driver numerous times.  Nothing I tried changed the pattern.
>
> There is also a PCMCIA Linksys WPC54G adapter in the laptop and this does
> not show any similar symptom.  This adapter I disable when testing the
> Belkin.  There is no other connection to the router, and I've never detected
> any other network in the vicinity.
>
> I've sent numerous emails to Belkin support, which they always reply to but
> never seem to read.
>
> Other than ignoring the condition, has anyone experienced this, or can
> anyone suggest a fix, or even a cause?
>
> Thanks
>
Author
13 Feb 2005 11:26 PM
Allan Anderson
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> Allan Anderson wrote:
>
>> In my XPSP2 laptop, I have a Belkin F5D7070 USB wireless dongle adapter
>> connecting to a Linksys WAG54G a few feet away.  The Belkin monitor
>> utility displays an animated representation of the adapter correctly
>> connecting to the router and thence to the internet.  Every 60 seconds,
>> it shows the connection from router to internet to be broken, and 10
>> seconds later to be restored, repeatedly.
>>
>> While experimenting, I ran a continuous ping to my ISP and was surprised
>> to see that the pinging was unaffected, even when the monitor was showing
>> the connection broken.  I've tried different channels, static and DHCP,
>> reloading the driver numerous times.  Nothing I tried changed the
>> pattern.
>>
>> There is also a PCMCIA Linksys WPC54G adapter in the laptop and this does
>> not show any similar symptom.  This adapter I disable when testing the
>> Belkin.  There is no other connection to the router, and I've never
>> detected any other network in the vicinity.
>>
>> I've sent numerous emails to Belkin support, which they always reply to
>> but never seem to read.
>>
>> Other than ignoring the condition, has anyone experienced this, or can
>> anyone suggest a fix, or even a cause?
>>
>> Thanks
>>

"Harvey Gratt" <hgr***@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:c5GdnfHl5ZwZFpLfRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>I believe that the Win XP Wireless Zero Configuration has an authentication
>mode. Make sure it's off.
>
> Hope this helps.
> Harvey
>

Thanks Harvey

I have WZC 'off' in msconfig, but I did check this as I know it has been
responsible for similar troubles.  One of the responses from Belkin was to
ensure it was set to manual in local services.  In fact it was on automatic,
but setting it to manual had no effect, nor did disabling it.  In fact,
their last response was to re-enable WZC, which I take to be their admission
of failure, or disinterest.  To be fair, though, they did respond quickly to
each email, which is something.

--
Allan Anderson
http://www.aganderson.me.uk
Researching -
KAYLL (IOM, anywhere)
GLANVILL/E (Liverpool, Berkshire)
ANDERSON (Kirkcudbrightshire, Dumfries)
DOBIE, BEGG, GIBSON, MARTIN (Kirkcudbrightshire)

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Author
14 Feb 2005 12:04 AM
Peter Pan
Allan Anderson wrote:
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>> Allan Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> In my XPSP2 laptop, I have a Belkin F5D7070 USB wireless dongle
>>> adapter connecting to a Linksys WAG54G a few feet away.  The Belkin
>>> monitor utility displays an animated representation of the adapter
>>> correctly connecting to the router and thence to the internet. Every 60
>>> seconds, it shows the connection from router to internet
>>> to be broken, and 10 seconds later to be restored, repeatedly.
>>>
>>> While experimenting, I ran a continuous ping to my ISP and was
>>> surprised to see that the pinging was unaffected, even when the
>>> monitor was showing the connection broken.  I've tried different
>>> channels, static and DHCP, reloading the driver numerous times. Nothing
>>> I tried changed the pattern.
>>>
>>> There is also a PCMCIA Linksys WPC54G adapter in the laptop and
>>> this does not show any similar symptom.  This adapter I disable
>>> when testing the Belkin.  There is no other connection to the
>>> router, and I've never detected any other network in the vicinity.
>>>
>>> I've sent numerous emails to Belkin support, which they always
>>> reply to but never seem to read.
>>>
>>> Other than ignoring the condition, has anyone experienced this, or
>>> can anyone suggest a fix, or even a cause?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>

Have you considered the most likely option? You said everything else works
fine, but the belkin utility shows things that aren't true, and you have
used other things that show they are working, but the belkin utility is
reporting falsely that they don't... Just from reading what you wrote, I'd
say it may be a problem with the belkin utility program... Why don't you try
a generic program instead of the one that you got free but gives you false
results?
Author
14 Feb 2005 9:59 AM
Allan Anderson
"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:37a88qF5a804gU1@individual.net...
> Allan Anderson wrote:
>>> Allan Anderson wrote:
>>>
>>>> In my XPSP2 laptop, I have a Belkin F5D7070 USB wireless dongle
>>>> adapter connecting to a Linksys WAG54G a few feet away.  The Belkin
>>>> monitor utility displays an animated representation of the adapter
>>>> correctly connecting to the router and thence to the internet. Every 60
>>>> seconds, it shows the connection from router to internet
>>>> to be broken, and 10 seconds later to be restored, repeatedly.
<snip>
>
> Have you considered the most likely option? You said everything else works
>  > fine, but the belkin utility shows things that aren't true, and you have
> used other things that show they are working, but the belkin utility is
> reporting falsely that they don't... Just from reading what you wrote, I'd
> say it may be a problem with the belkin utility program... Why don't you
> try a generic program instead of the one that you got free but gives you
> false results?
>

Yes, that was my conclusion, too, which I suggested to Belkin.  Their
response amounted to - use WZC.  I'm still using the Belkin because it
allows profiles, although it does seem to lose them easily.

I will look for a generic one - I didn't know they existed, assuming each
was proprietary to match the adapter.  Thanks.

--
Allan Anderson

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Author
14 Feb 2005 12:03 PM
Peter Pan
Allan Anderson wrote:
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> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:37a88qF5a804gU1@individual.net...
>> Allan Anderson wrote:
>>>> Allan Anderson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In my XPSP2 laptop, I have a Belkin F5D7070 USB wireless dongle
>>>>> adapter connecting to a Linksys WAG54G a few feet away.  The
>>>>> Belkin monitor utility displays an animated representation of the
>>>>> adapter correctly connecting to the router and thence to the
>>>>> internet. Every 60 seconds, it shows the connection from router
>>>>> to internet to be broken, and 10 seconds later to be restored,
>>>>> repeatedly.
> <snip>
>>
>> Have you considered the most likely option? You said everything else
>>  works > fine, but the belkin utility shows things that aren't true,
>> and you have used other things that show they are working, but the
>> belkin utility is reporting falsely that they don't... Just from
>> reading what you wrote, I'd say it may be a problem with the belkin
>> utility program... Why don't you try a generic program instead of
>> the one that you got free but gives you false results?
>>
>
> Yes, that was my conclusion, too, which I suggested to Belkin.  Their
> response amounted to - use WZC.  I'm still using the Belkin because it
> allows profiles, although it does seem to lose them easily.
>
> I will look for a generic one - I didn't know they existed, assuming
> each was proprietary to match the adapter.  Thanks.

Don't know what you are looking for exactly, but there are two I use for
searching and basic info
Netstumbler at http://www.netstumbler.com/ (free)
Winc at http://www.cirond.com/ (free for evaluation for 30 days, $30 to
register)
Author
21 Feb 2005 7:43 PM
Andy
I have had this problem for a few weeks and i have spent most of the
day to belkin, who suggested the following to no avail (might as well
post info)
connection type pppoa
idle time 0
MTU 1400
try wireless channels 1,6, or 9

downlaod latest drivers from belkin
http://search.belkin.com/cgi-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=162&EXTRA_ARG=&CFGNAME=MssFind%2Ecfg&host_id=42&page_id=1511424&query=f5d7050%2A&hiword=f5d7050%2A+

they then suggested removing all belkin software and re-installing - i
dont think so

something made me put my desktop on wired connection (both desktop and
laptop were wireless) and hey bingo my laptop connected constantly

tried to connect wirelessly on desktop and it did the same as my
laptop
looked at ip addresses using ipconfig from a c: prompt and it showed
nothing for wireless connection

reset router and bingo! hence i am emailing this from my laptop with
F5D7050 and my desktop is online too

so it is an ip allocation problem i think

set all machines so they are trying to connect to router and reset
your router
makes me wonder if stating IP addresses would help rather than router
assigning them (although this connected the machines it failed to let
me access the internet, but i wasnt trying to hard to set it up)

desktop now has ip of 192.168.2.3 (and 192.168.2.3 on hard wired when
i use it)
laptop has ip of 192.168.2.2

hope this helps, now how infuriating it is to not find any answers
best to posr replies here, i dont use the email address in this post
often

Andy
"if people don't understand you then shout louder at them, if they
still don't understand curse under your breathe - they will hear you
then!"
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"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message news:<37bichF5adtkmU1@individual.net>...
> Allan Anderson wrote:
> > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> > news:37a88qF5a804gU1@individual.net...
> >> Allan Anderson wrote:
> >>>> Allan Anderson wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In my XPSP2 laptop, I have a Belkin F5D7070 USB wireless dongle
> >>>>> adapter connecting to a Linksys WAG54G a few feet away.  The
> >>>>> Belkin monitor utility displays an animated representation of the
> >>>>> adapter correctly connecting to the router and thence to the
> >>>>> internet. Every 60 seconds, it shows the connection from router
> >>>>> to internet to be broken, and 10 seconds later to be restored,
> >>>>> repeatedly.
> > <snip>
> >>
> >> Have you considered the most likely option? You said everything else
> >>  works > fine, but the belkin utility shows things that aren't true,
> >> and you have used other things that show they are working, but the
> >> belkin utility is reporting falsely that they don't... Just from
> >> reading what you wrote, I'd say it may be a problem with the belkin
> >> utility program... Why don't you try a generic program instead of
> >> the one that you got free but gives you false results?
> >>
> >
> > Yes, that was my conclusion, too, which I suggested to Belkin.  Their
> > response amounted to - use WZC.  I'm still using the Belkin because it
> > allows profiles, although it does seem to lose them easily.
> >
> > I will look for a generic one - I didn't know they existed, assuming
> > each was proprietary to match the adapter.  Thanks.
>
> Don't know what you are looking for exactly, but there are two I use for
> searching and basic info
> Netstumbler at http://www.netstumbler.com/ (free)
> Winc at http://www.cirond.com/ (free for evaluation for 30 days, $30 to
> register)
Author
23 Feb 2005 10:39 PM
Allan Anderson
"Andy" <lol***@lineone.net> wrote in message
news:a6cbdc4f.0502211143.50ef9914@posting.google.com...
>I have had this problem for a few weeks and i have spent most of the

<snip>
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> reset router and bingo! hence i am emailing this from my laptop with
> F5D7050 and my desktop is online too
>
> so it is an ip allocation problem i think
>
>
> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:<37bichF5adtkmU1@individual.net>...
>> Allan Anderson wrote:
>> > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>> > news:37a88qF5a804gU1@individual.net...
>> >> Allan Anderson wrote:
>> >>>> Allan Anderson wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> In my XPSP2 laptop, I have a Belkin F5D7070 USB wireless dongle
>> >>>>> adapter connecting to a Linksys WAG54G a few feet away.  The
>> >>>>> Belkin monitor utility displays an animated representation of the
>> >>>>> adapter correctly connecting to the router and thence to the
>> >>>>> internet. Every 60 seconds, it shows the connection from router
>> >>>>> to internet to be broken, and 10 seconds later to be restored,
>> >>>>> repeatedly.
>> > <snip>
Hi Andy

I didn't have a non-connection problem, nor a disconnection problem,
although I did think that initially.

It was just the Belkin monitor giving a false disconnection indication,
which Belkin and I are ignoring.

Thanks

Allan