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Hi.. setting up wireless ISP

Author
7 Feb 2005 12:21 PM
hari
Hi

iam new to this Wireless
iam working for an ISP

iam trying to deploy Wireless ISP
using point to multipoint for the last mile

does any one have any free guides to learn

what is the best product to use
what is others also deploying.. interfearance problems



hari

Author
7 Feb 2005 12:56 PM
f/fgeorge
On 7 Feb 2005 04:21:30 -0800, hari_***@yahoo.com (hari) wrote:

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>Hi
>
>iam new to this Wireless
>iam working for an ISP
>
>iam trying to deploy Wireless ISP
>using point to multipoint for the last mile
>
>does any one have any free guides to learn
>
>what is the best product to use
>what is others also deploying.. interfearance problems
>
>
>
>hari
think 802.16
if you don't know what it is, do a google search
Author
7 Feb 2005 3:47 PM
Rôgêr
f/fgeorge wrote:

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> On 7 Feb 2005 04:21:30 -0800, hari_***@yahoo.com (hari) wrote:
>
>
>>Hi
>>
>>iam new to this Wireless
>>iam working for an ISP
>>
>>iam trying to deploy Wireless ISP
>>using point to multipoint for the last mile
>>
>>does any one have any free guides to learn
>>
>>what is the best product to use
>>what is others also deploying.. interfearance problems
>>
>>
>>
>>hari
>
> think 802.16
> if you don't know what it is, do a google search
>
And think that the year 2006 is when it's supposed to come out. There's
pre-802.16 available, but no way of knowing if it will be compliant.
Author
7 Feb 2005 5:37 PM
Jeff Liebermann
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 10:47:55 -0500, Rôgêr <ab***@your.isp.com> wrote:

>> think 802.16
>> if you don't know what it is, do a google search

>And think that the year 2006 is when it's supposed to come out. There's
>pre-802.16 available, but no way of knowing if it will be compliant.

http://www.80216news.com

There are several 802.16 systems on the air and delivering service.
The problem is that they use the current 2.4 and 5.6GHz bands which
poses an unsolvable interference and coordination problem.  You can
buy 802.16 hardware today from NextNet, but only in the crowded 2.4
and 5.6Ghz bands in the US.  That's what ClearWire is doing.
  http://www.clearwire.com
  http://www.nextnetwireless.com
Hmmm.... NextNet web pile seems to be down.

There's also Speakeasy which is running some kind of test in Seattle.
I think they're using Aperto hardware:
  http://www.speakeasy.net
  http://www.apertonet.com/en/
and TowerStream:
  http://www.towerstream.com
also usin Aperto boxes.

The lack of coordinated frequencies doesn't seem to be an issue with
the FCC, which will surely devote all its energy into undoing
everything that Michael Powell perpetrated before a new chairperson is
appointed.  I don't see 802.16 frequencies on the agenda, but may have
missed something as I don't dig into the fine print.

Given dedicated frequencies, 802.16 stands to revolutionize the last
mile and deliver of datacomm services.  I'm sure the existing telcos
and wire carriers are thrilled with the potential competition.
Without dedicated frequencies, it's just another 2.4/5.6Ghz WISP
service.

For a tolerable mailing for WISP's, see:
  http://isp-wireless.com


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Jeff Liebermann    je***@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
150 Felker St #D   http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060    AE6KS  831-336-2558
Author
7 Feb 2005 6:35 PM
Rôgêr
Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> Given dedicated frequencies, 802.16 stands to revolutionize the last
> mile and deliver of datacomm services.  I'm sure the existing telcos
> and wire carriers are thrilled with the potential competition.

At least one likes the idea:
http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=67251
Author
8 Feb 2005 1:12 AM
Jeff Liebermann
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 13:35:54 -0500, Rôgêr <ab***@your.isp.com> wrote:

>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
>> Given dedicated frequencies, 802.16 stands to revolutionize the last
>> mile and deliver of datacomm services.  I'm sure the existing telcos
>> and wire carriers are thrilled with the potential competition.
>
>At least one likes the idea:
>http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=67251

That's because Sprint has a preferential claim on the FCC license when
issued because they were forced to relinquish the MMDS frequencies and
licenses by pressure on the FCC from other telcos.  In exchange, they
get first grabs on whatever new technology is suppose to replace MMDS.
It was suppose to be 3G licenses, but could easily be transfered to
802.16 if desireable or necessary.

  http://www.sprintbroadband.com/statusFAQ.html
XG is science fiction and ION is dead.  If they go for 802.16 WiMax,
they'll probably move their MMDS customers over to it.

Incidentally, you might enjoy this list of DSL/cable alternatives:
  http://www.LearnByDestroying.com/nooze/wireless.htm
I created the list in 1999 and stopped updating it in 2001.  Very few
of the great "last mile" companies and ideas are still in business.

Oops.  There is hope.  Another grand idea is raised from the dead.

http://www.dailywireless.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3374
  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/16/stratellite_launch/
Just put the wireless repeater in a high flying blimp for instant
coverage.

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# Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
# 831.336.2558 voice  http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
#                         je***@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
#                           je***@cruzio.com     AE6KS
Author
7 Feb 2005 3:51 PM
Smowk
hari_***@yahoo.com (hari) wrote in news:b38cf70.0502070421.7bac8711
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> Hi
>
> iam new to this Wireless
> iam working for an ISP
>
> iam trying to deploy Wireless ISP
> using point to multipoint for the last mile
>
> does any one have any free guides to learn
>
> what is the best product to use
> what is others also deploying.. interfearance problems
>
>
>
> hari

ever look at alvarion equipment....very very nice!!!

connected over 8 miles away at my 2 locations

smowk
Author
7 Feb 2005 8:11 PM
no.one
On 7 Feb 2005 04:21:30 -0800, hari_***@yahoo.com (hari) wrote:

>Hi
>
>iam new to this Wireless
>iam working for an ISP
>
>iam trying to deploy Wireless ISP
>using point to multipoint for the last mile
>
>does any one have any free guides to learn

http://www.netscum.com/~clapp/wireless.html

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010712.html

Also, suggest you purchase WIRELESS HACKS and the ARRL ANTENNA BOOK.



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