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2 Apr 2005 12:09 PM
Jim Gaughran
I'm getting ready to install ADSL and want to have a wireless hookup to my
wife's notebook.  I would prefer to hardwire my desktop, but would be open
to suggestions.

My question regards the type of equipment I need to buy.  I know I need a PC
card for my wife's notebook, but the connection between the ADSL line and my
desktop is where I'm having a problem.  I've tried numerous websites hat
claim to have all the networking answers, but I'm afraid I have no idea what
the difference is between a router, gateway and access point.  They may all
be the same piece of equipment, and the websites discuss them as though
everyone knows what they are and what they do.

If anyone can help, please be as specific as possible.  Thanks in advance
for any assistance.

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Jim Gaughran
domer***@mweb.co.za
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2 Apr 2005 2:29 PM
Thomas Krüger
Jim Gaughran wrote:

> what
> the difference is between a router, gateway and access point.  They may
> all be the same piece of equipment, and the websites discuss them as
> though everyone knows what they are and what they do.

An access point (AP) is the base station for a wireless LAN (WLAN). It
connects a wired LAN and a wireless. It's somehow like the base station of
a cordless phone.

A router is a device that connect several networks. In the case of most home
used routers it connects the local network to the internet. It makes up the
internet connection and allows the computers to connect through it.

Gateway can be just an other name for router but also means a logical
setting for the TCP/IP (internet) protocol, telling all computers which it
the address of the router. (standard gateway)

What you are looking for is a WLAN router. It's a router and a wireless AP
in one device. In most cases it also has a switch (adv. network hub) where
you can connect some computers by cable.

Thomas
Author
2 Apr 2005 4:32 PM
gary
Jim Gaughran wrote:

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> I'm getting ready to install ADSL and want to have a wireless hookup to my
> wseparatetebook.  I would prefer to hardwire my desktop, but would be open
> to suggestions.
>
> My question regards the type of equipment I need to buy.  I know I need a
> PC card for my wife's notebook, but the connection between the ADSL line
> and my
> desktop is where I'm having a problem.  I've tried numerous websites hat
> claim to have all the networking answers, but I'm afraid I have no idea
> what
> the difference is between a router, gateway and access point.  They may
> all be the same piece of equipment, and the websites discuss them as
> though everyone knows what they are and what they do.
>
> If anyone can help, please be as specific as possible.  Thanks in advance
> for any assistance.
>
Hi,

What ADSL provider are you plan on using? Most provide wireless along with
the modem. Some provide a separate wireless AP while others provide one
integrated with the ADSL modem.

If you  have a provider that supplies only the modem then you will need a
wireless AP or wireless router. I would select the latter if you want to
hardware additional equipment, most provide 4 ports.

You will need a network interface card (NIC) for your desktop if it doen't
have the lan interface integrated to the motherboard. If needed, get a good
PCI 10/100. Unless you are wanting to get into the gig lan standard.

For your laptop, if it doesn't have integrated wireless you will need a
cardbus/pcmcia wireless interface. You should match the cardbus/pcmcia
wireless with the wireless AP or Wireless router. That would be
802.11a,b,g. I would stay away from some of the super stuff  at this time.
Note that the chosen wireless standard will dictate your access
(802.11a,b,g).

Prices for the 802.11b equipment is low at this time. You could purchase a
802.11g wlan card for the laptop and still access your 802.11b wlan.

I have not assumed any operating system. If you are Windows based then most
equipment will have the needed drivers. If Linux you will need to check the
card base id to see if the equipment is compatible and that the drivers are
provided. You could use NDIS wrapper for linux based equipment but some of
the chipsets used can cause some problems with older equipment.

HTH!
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Gary

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2 Apr 2005 4:41 PM
gary
gary wrote:

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>
> For your laptop, if it doesn't have integrated wireless you will need a
> cardbus/pcmcia wireless interface. You should match the cardbus/pcmcia
> wireless with the wireless AP or Wireless router. That would be
> 802.11a,b,g. I would stay away from some of the super stuff  at this time.
> Note that the chosen wireless standard will dictate your access
> (802.11a,b,g).

I should add that a USB ethernet or USB wlan interface are available for the
laptop or desktop. Some provide external attenna which will enhance or
provide better signal quality.

HTH!

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3 Apr 2005 12:23 PM
Jim Gaughran
Thanks for all the help.  This was exactly what I was looking for.  To
answer your ADSL provider question, the provider is MWeb in South Africa.
They only provide the modem.  I can get most equipment here, but due to the
weakness of the dollar, the cost is usually 50 to 100% higher than in the
states.  I usually order high cost items on the internet, and they're
shipped through the State Department pouch.  It can take 2 to 3 weeks for an
order to get here, but the difference in cost is worth it.

I have the NIC card, but will need to buy the wireless AP or router and the
pc card.  If you have any recommendations for specific products, they would
be appreciated.  Thanks again.

                                            Jim

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"gary" <gws1[-th***@mtco.com> wrote in message
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> Jim Gaughran wrote:
>
>> I'm getting ready to install ADSL and want to have a wireless hookup to
>> my
>> wseparatetebook.  I would prefer to hardwire my desktop, but would be
>> open
>> to suggestions.
>>
>> My question regards the type of equipment I need to buy.  I know I need a
>> PC card for my wife's notebook, but the connection between the ADSL line
>> and my
>> desktop is where I'm having a problem.  I've tried numerous websites hat
>> claim to have all the networking answers, but I'm afraid I have no idea
>> what
>> the difference is between a router, gateway and access point.  They may
>> all be the same piece of equipment, and the websites discuss them as
>> though everyone knows what they are and what they do.
>>
>> If anyone can help, please be as specific as possible.  Thanks in advance
>> for any assistance.
>>
> Hi,
>
> What ADSL provider are you plan on using? Most provide wireless along with
> the modem. Some provide a separate wireless AP while others provide one
> integrated with the ADSL modem.
>
> If you  have a provider that supplies only the modem then you will need a
> wireless AP or wireless router. I would select the latter if you want to
> hardware additional equipment, most provide 4 ports.
>
> You will need a network interface card (NIC) for your desktop if it doen't
> have the lan interface integrated to the motherboard. If needed, get a
> good
> PCI 10/100. Unless you are wanting to get into the gig lan standard.
>
> For your laptop, if it doesn't have integrated wireless you will need a
> cardbus/pcmcia wireless interface. You should match the cardbus/pcmcia
> wireless with the wireless AP or Wireless router. That would be
> 802.11a,b,g. I would stay away from some of the super stuff  at this time.
> Note that the chosen wireless standard will dictate your access
> (802.11a,b,g).
>
> Prices for the 802.11b equipment is low at this time. You could purchase a
> 802.11g wlan card for the laptop and still access your 802.11b wlan.
>
> I have not assumed any operating system. If you are Windows based then
> most
> equipment will have the needed drivers. If Linux you will need to check
> the
> card base id to see if the equipment is compatible and that the drivers
> are
> provided. You could use NDIS wrapper for linux based equipment but some of
> the chipsets used can cause some problems with older equipment.
>
> HTH!
> --
> Regards and Godspeed,
> Gary
>
> The magic is in the Magician not the wand!
>
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6 Apr 2005 5:32 PM
gary
Jim Gaughran wrote:

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> Thanks for all the help.  This was exactly what I was looking for.  To
> answer your ADSL provider question, the provider is MWeb in South Africa.
> They only provide the modem.  I can get most equipment here, but due to
> the weakness of the dollar, the cost is usually 50 to 100% higher than in
> the
> states.  I usually order high cost items on the internet, and they're
> shipped through the State Department pouch.  It can take 2 to 3 weeks for
> an order to get here, but the difference in cost is worth it.
>
> I have the NIC card, but will need to buy the wireless AP or router and
> the
> pc card.  If you have any recommendations for specific products, they
> would
> be appreciated.  Thanks again.
>
>                                             Jim
>
Hi,

As for equipment recommendations. I like Linksys, Dlink and netgear.For
NICs' I preferr 3Com, Intel or some of the cheap non branded stuff. I've
used some Gigafast equipment and it seems stable and cheap here in the U.S.
As for the pcmcia/cardbus you should see what is best for your equipment and
OS.

If you are using Windows then drivers should not be an issue. If Linux then
you should defintely check the drivers availablity and hardware
compatibility.

HTH!

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Regards and Godspeed,
Gary

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