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Small AP with PoE?
four APs for a client's house, and tucking them into the ceilings would work best, so I'm looking for something with a standards-compliant (802.3af) PoE solution. My fallback is Linksys WAP54G and either the WAPPOE or the WAPPOE12, anyone know which is the right one? While I'm at it, how about an 8-port (or so) 10/100{/1000?} switch with PoE integrated? Thanks! In article <ekkq41d578v1vt6ft6rhr475c7ctcrk***@4ax.com>,
<William P. N. Smith> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >Does anyone make a reliable AP with PoE? I'm about to buy three or Take a look at the Cisco 1100 and 1200 APs >four APs for a client's house, and tucking them into the ceilings >would work best, so I'm looking for something with a >standards-compliant (802.3af) PoE solution. > >My fallback is Linksys WAP54G and either the WAPPOE or the WAPPOE12, >anyone know which is the right one? > >While I'm at it, how about an 8-port (or so) 10/100{/1000?} switch >with PoE integrated? > >Thanks! > A cisco switch will inject PoE but it's pricey. I'd like to see what other people suggest. -- a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. On 1 Apr 2005 09:43:52 -0500, Al Dykes <ady***@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <ekkq41d578v1vt6ft6rhr475c7ctcrk***@4ax.com>, Not as bad as Cisco, but a decent router (similar code to the 7324 / 7312):> <William P. N. Smith> wrote: >>While I'm at it, how about an 8-port (or so) 10/100{/1000?} switch >>with PoE integrated? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00016W65U/qid=1112385717/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl23/104-3587002-7903147?v=glance&s=electronics&n=507846 = http://tinyurl.com/658nd $1200, 24 10/100 + 2 10/100/1000, layer 3 and QoS. I've played with a few of them... -TC -- swap triangle and cannedmeat to reply Its quite easy to make a Power over Ethernet adaptor.
To construct one, first you must understand how it works. An ethernet connection DOES NOT REQUIRE 8 PINS. Only 4 pins, or 2 copper pairs in the 8 core cable are used. On the RJ45 connector, these are pins 1, 2, 3 & 6. This should be the orange and the green pairs. When you wire everything up, power shouldn't go near your modular plugs. These are intended to be data ports only. I constructed one a while ago for my Linksys WRT54G by cutting the power lead in half, then wiring each end to an RJ45 modular female type socket. I wired pins 4 & 5 (blue pair) to the positive rail and pins 7 & 8 (brown pair) to the negative rail. I also purchased a plastic box with a modular punchout to suit the RJ45 connector for each end, to make it tidy. From the modular plug on each end I run a short patch lead to the access point and to a switch inside my home. Today my WRT54G lives in a sealed enclosure on my roof where its connected to some external antennas. Power and ethernet is carried over a 15m CAT5 lead. Some useful wiring diagrams can be found at http://www.aptcommunications.com/ncode.htm Might be worth having a look at google too, I'm sure someone out there has a page about it. Regards, Peter Hoskin William P. N. Smith wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Does anyone make a reliable AP with PoE? I'm about to buy three or > four APs for a client's house, and tucking them into the ceilings > would work best, so I'm looking for something with a > standards-compliant (802.3af) PoE solution. > > My fallback is Linksys WAP54G and either the WAPPOE or the WAPPOE12, > anyone know which is the right one? > > While I'm at it, how about an 8-port (or so) 10/100{/1000?} switch > with PoE integrated? > > Thanks! > In article <424d6881$0$27628$61c65***@un-2park-reader-02.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au>,
Peter Hoskin <N0-SPAMpeterh@N0-SPAM.criten.org> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >Its quite easy to make a Power over Ethernet adaptor. Making one PoE adapter and prividing neat professional wiring for a> >To construct one, first you must understand how it works. An ethernet >connection DOES NOT REQUIRE 8 PINS. Only 4 pins, or 2 copper pairs in >the 8 core cable are used. On the RJ45 connector, these are pins 1, 2, 3 > & 6. This should be the orange and the green pairs. When you wire >everything up, power shouldn't go near your modular plugs. These are >intended to be data ports only. > >I constructed one a while ago for my Linksys WRT54G by cutting the power >lead in half, then wiring each end to an RJ45 modular female type >socket. I wired pins 4 & 5 (blue pair) to the positive rail and pins 7 & >8 (brown pair) to the negative rail. I also purchased a plastic box with >a modular punchout to suit the RJ45 connector for each end, to make it tidy. > > From the modular plug on each end I run a short patch lead to the >access point and to a switch inside my home. > >Today my WRT54G lives in a sealed enclosure on my roof where its >connected to some external antennas. Power and ethernet is carried over >a 15m CAT5 lead. > >Some useful wiring diagrams can be found at >http://www.aptcommunications.com/ncode.htm > >Might be worth having a look at google too, I'm sure someone out there >has a page about it. > >Regards, >Peter Hoskin > >William P. N. Smith wrote: >> Does anyone make a reliable AP with PoE? I'm about to buy three or >> four APs for a client's house, and tucking them into the ceilings >> would work best, so I'm looking for something with a >> standards-compliant (802.3af) PoE solution. >> >> My fallback is Linksys WAP54G and either the WAPPOE or the WAPPOE12, >> anyone know which is the right one? >> >> While I'm at it, how about an 8-port (or so) 10/100{/1000?} switch >> with PoE integrated? >> >> Thanks! >> bunch of PoE powered APs is two different things. The OP says he has 3 APs. In a DIY approach you works require 3 duplex power outlets which is frequently a liiting factor. A pox on power strips. -- a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. > Making one PoE adapter and prividing neat professional wiring for a Disassemble a commercial PoE adaptor and then tell me what you think.> bunch of PoE powered APs is two different things. The OP says he has > 3 APs. In a DIY approach you works require 3 duplex power outlets > which is frequently a liiting factor. > > A pox on power strips. Peter Hoskin <N0-SPAMpeterh@N0-SPAM.criten.org> wrote:
>Its quite easy to make a Power over Ethernet adaptor. Well, it's quite easy to lash up something that will use the unusedwires in a 10/100 Ethernet drop to probably provide sufficient power to run certain things, but I'm more interested in 802.3af-compliant Power Over Ethernet, so I can expand the network in the future with cameras, APs, night-lights, weather stations, wall-jack switches, and who knows what all stuff that will be coming out in the future, and won't destroy anything that inadvertently gets plugged into the wrong port. The problem is that 'professional' PoE mid-span injectors seem to be near $100/port, and PoE peripherals seems to be few and far between(*). Maybe I'll go with the Linksys stuff initially and upgrade incrementally as prices drop. Thanks for the feedback! In article <aptq41dp01q8obg7mttv9dp1jaaqd49***@4ax.com>,
<William P. N. Smith> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >Peter Hoskin <N0-SPAMpeterh@N0-SPAM.criten.org> wrote: Here's an 8 port injector. I have no idea how much it is or where >>Its quite easy to make a Power over Ethernet adaptor. > >Well, it's quite easy to lash up something that will use the unused >wires in a 10/100 Ethernet drop to probably provide sufficient power >to run certain things, but I'm more interested in 802.3af-compliant >Power Over Ethernet, so I can expand the network in the future with >cameras, APs, night-lights, weather stations, wall-jack switches, and >who knows what all stuff that will be coming out in the future, and >won't destroy anything that inadvertently gets plugged into the wrong >port. > >The problem is that 'professional' PoE mid-span injectors seem to be >near $100/port, and PoE peripherals seems to be few and far >between(*). Maybe I'll go with the Linksys stuff initially and >upgrade incrementally as prices drop. > >Thanks for the feedback! > to get one. http://www.poweroverethernet.com/poe/content/view/full/1609/ http://www.poweroverethernet.com seems to be an interesting site. FWIW, Putting "poe injector" into google comes up with lots of hits. -- a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. ady***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>Here's an 8 port injector. I have no idea how much it is or where /*>to get one. > >http://www.poweroverethernet.com/poe/content/view/full/1609/ Pricing for the 24-port Midspans start at $295 in OEM quantities. */ That's not bad, though I don't seem to find any actual distribution, a typical problem with announcements. I've also found http://www.l-com.com/jump.jsp?lGen=detail&itemID=9476&itemType=PRODUCT&iProductID=9476 which has a WWWeb interface, and is only $389 for the 12-port. Turns out Netcom has the WG102 and WG302 APs, though AFAICT the WG302 isn't actually out yet. D-Link has some gear, but I'm never buying any more D-Link products. I've also found the Ortronics Wi-Jack, but I'm almost afraid to ask for pricing. 8*) Proxim made a POE server for its wireless APs awhile back. Here is one on
Ebay at this posting time under fifty dollars. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44996&item=5180907202&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW Robert.... <William P. N. Smith> wrote in message Show quoteHide quote news:ch1r41t5omku043te384ato8evpefsea1l@4ax.com... > ady***@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote: >>Here's an 8 port injector. I have no idea how much it is or where >>to get one. >> >>http://www.poweroverethernet.com/poe/content/view/full/1609/ > > /* > Pricing for the 24-port Midspans start at $295 in OEM quantities. > */ > > That's not bad, though I don't seem to find any actual distribution, a > typical problem with announcements. I've also found > http://www.l-com.com/jump.jsp?lGen=detail&itemID=9476&itemType=PRODUCT&iProductID=9476 > which has a WWWeb interface, and is only $389 for the 12-port. > > Turns out Netcom has the WG102 and WG302 APs, though AFAICT the WG302 > isn't actually out yet. D-Link has some gear, but I'm never buying > any more D-Link products. I've also found the Ortronics Wi-Jack, but > I'm almost afraid to ask for pricing. 8*) > On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 01:28:00 +1000, Peter Hoskin
<N0-SPAMpeterh@N0-SPAM.criten.org> wrote: >Today my WRT54G lives in a sealed enclosure on my roof where its Just a minor note. The WRT54G is unique in that it has a nifty>connected to some external antennas. Power and ethernet is carried over >a 15m CAT5 lead. switching regulator on the power supply port that will run on any applied voltage between about 4VDC and 18VDC. The lower limit is defined by the 3.3v output dropout voltage. The upper limit by where the filter capacitors and regulator get fried. The nominal 12VDC wall wart can run the WRT54G through some very very lossy cables and still work just fine. Here's a bad photo of my BEFW11S4 (similar regulator design) running off 3.6VDC. http://www.LearnByDestroying.com/pics/drivel/slides/low-volt.html For simple installation, I don't bother borrowing 4 wires out of the CAT5 bundle. It's too big a hassle dealing with the connector conversions. I just run a 2nd cable as an extension cord for the power with whatever cable I can find. Current favorite is 4 conductor antenna rotator cable. Also, be sure to add an inline fuse at the wall wart of idiot protection. I'm not sure what other products have such wide range regulators. The easiest way is to just try it. Power the access point or router with an adjustable power supply, and see how low you can go before it stops working. -- Jeff Liebermann je***@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558
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