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Vacuum Cleaner Interferences?Weird, I heard a vacuum cleaner going downstair, and I got disconnected
from my wireless connection. Is this common? I never heard of vacuum cleaners interferring with wireless devices. Thank you in advance. :) -- "What reason, like the careful ant, draws laboriously together, the wind of accident sometimes collects in a moment." --Friedrich von Schiller /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Ant @ The Ant Farm: http://antfarm.ma.cx | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net \ _ / Please remove ANT if replying by e-mail.( ) <ANT***@zimage.com> wrote in message
news:Ktqdnapj_q0HMdnfRVn-vg@mminternet.net... of accident sometimes collects in a moment." --Friedrich von Schiller> Weird, I heard a vacuum cleaner going downstair, and I got disconnected > from my wireless connection. Is this common? I never heard of vacuum > cleaners interferring with wireless devices. > > Thank you in advance. :) > -- > "What reason, like the careful ant, draws laboriously together, the wind > /\___/\ Vacuum cleaners can induce noise into the 120vac system, which in turn can> / /\ /\ \ Ant @ The Ant Farm: http://antfarm.ma.cx > | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net > \ _ / Please remove ANT if replying by e-mail. > ( affect anything on the same circuit or power system. It is due to arcing of noisey motor brushes. I had a vacuum cleaner blow circuit cards in an IBM check processor. It most likely has nothing to do with wireless and everything to do with power. An AC noise filter may help. cheers airhead Airhead <campb***@alliancecable.net> wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > <ANT***@zimage.com> wrote in message Even if the vaccum cleaner and wireless router are not even close to each> news:Ktqdnapj_q0HMdnfRVn-vg@mminternet.net... > > Weird, I heard a vacuum cleaner going downstair, and I got disconnected > > from my wireless connection. Is this common? I never heard of vacuum > > cleaners interferring with wireless devices. > > > > Thank you in advance. :) > Vacuum cleaners can induce noise into the 120vac system, which in turn can > affect anything on the > same circuit or power system. It is due to arcing of noisey motor brushes. I > had a vacuum cleaner > blow circuit cards in an IBM check processor. It most likely has nothing to > do with wireless > and everything to do with power. An AC noise filter may help. other? It is not like in the same room or downstair. It is like next door. -- "What reason, like the careful ant, draws laboriously together, the wind of accident sometimes collects in a moment." --Friedrich von Schiller /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Ant @ The Ant Farm: http://antfarm.ma.cx | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net \ _ / Please remove ANT if replying by e-mail.( ) "Airhead" <campb***@alliancecable.net> wrote: Any arcing can also generate RF interference, which can use the power>Vacuum cleaners can induce noise into the 120vac system, which in turn can >affect anything on the >same circuit or power system. It is due to arcing of noisey motor brushes. leads of the motor and appliance as antennas. On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:28:10 -0600, ANT***@zimage.com wrote:
>Weird, I heard a vacuum cleaner going downstair, and I got disconnected Well, that sucks. (Sorry, I couldn't resist).>from my wireless connection. Is this common? I never heard of vacuum >cleaners interferring with wireless devices. The arcing from the motor is a nice spark gap transmitter with harmonics well into the microwave region. I can kill my wireless 802.11b connection with a nearby electric shaver or AC powered electric drill. The motor speed has to be just right, but it works and is repeatable. Others have mentioned AC power line conducted interference. This is possible but the effect is probably not the same. In this case, the motor noise is being conducted by the AC wiring, goes through the wall wart power supply, and gets into the access point circuitry. The isolation of the older transformer type wall warts is fairly good, but not perfect. If the access point is sensitive to power supply noise, communications may be affected. Another possibility is line voltage sag. If the house wiring is really marginal, it might be possible to reduce the AC voltage to the point where your unspecified model access point no longer operates. Methinks this is a stretch as you would also be seeing all manner of other appliances doing weird things. I good way to test this is to fire up the site survey or signal quality tool on your unspecified client radio. It should give a signal strength and either a noise level or S/N ratio reading. If RF noise is the problem, you will see no change in signal level, but a drastic increase in noise level, or a drastic decrease in S/N ratio. However, if your unspecified access point is failing due to voltage problems, the signal level will also probably (not sure) decrease. If your client radio do not have these monitoring features, you can use Netstumbler on a laptop to extract them. -- Jeff Liebermann je***@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558 ANT***@zimage.com wrote:
> Weird, I heard a vacuum cleaner going downstair, and I got disconnected The vacuum would have to putting out some RF. What was the model? Maybe > from my wireless connection. Is this common? I never heard of vacuum > cleaners interferring with wireless devices. > > Thank you in advance. :) it was a robot vacuum......Did you try to repeat the problem? Dave Dave Wendling wrote:
> ANT***@zimage.com wrote: Uh, if it has a motor, it will generate some RFI. If the motor is> >> Weird, I heard a vacuum cleaner going downstair, and I got >> disconnected from my wireless connection. Is this common? I never >> heard of vacuum cleaners interferring with wireless devices. >> >> Thank you in advance. :) > > > The vacuum would have to putting out some RF. What was the model? Maybe > it was a robot vacuum......Did you try to repeat the problem? > > Dave brushless and everything works OK, then the RFI should be small; if the motor is an older style with brushes, then the RFI can be kinda ugly. In addition to radiated energy, the vacuum cleaner will also produce some conducted energy. That won't matter if all wireless widgets are running from batteries, but if either the laptop (I'm guessing) or the router (I'm guessing again) are plugged into an AC outlet, then conducted RFI could cause problems. -- Cheers, Bob
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