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Am I stuck with WEP?
however, my kids computers have older d-link wireless b cards that, from what I remember, only allow WEP/128. I looked for new cards on a couple of sites, but anything fairly inexpensive seems to only offer the same. WEP/128. I don't want to spend a ton on new wireless cards for their pc's, but I feel that WEP isn't worth a crap. Any suggestions?? -Bob ummmm, no wep.........
Show quoteHide quote "Nick Beef" <tifoso***@OVEcomcast.net> wrote in message news:MPG.1cacb95d4e1650c19896db@news-40.giganews.com... > I've got a netgear g router that has all kinds of encryption options, > however, my kids computers have older d-link wireless b cards that, from > what I remember, only allow WEP/128. > > I looked for new cards on a couple of sites, but anything fairly > inexpensive seems to only offer the same. WEP/128. > > > I don't want to spend a ton on new wireless cards for their pc's, but I > feel that WEP isn't worth a crap. > > Any suggestions?? > > > -Bob > > In article <d1v41f$75***@hercules.btinternet.com>, S**@FBCbtinternet.com
says... > ummmm, no wep......... What would I do without usenet??-Bob Nick Beef <tifoso***@ovecomcast.net> wrote:
> I looked for new cards on a couple of sites, but anything fairly CompUSA has some different $9.99 cards every week. You might check if> inexpensive seems to only offer the same. WEP/128. these do WPA. <http://www.compusa.com/products/products.asp?N=200713&Ns=display%5Fprice%7C0> -- --- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 Nick Beef wrote:
Show quoteHide quote >I've got a netgear g router that has all kinds of encryption options, It is possible that your cards could handle WPA-TKIP with a software >however, my kids computers have older d-link wireless b cards that, from >what I remember, only allow WEP/128. > >I looked for new cards on a couple of sites, but anything fairly >inexpensive seems to only offer the same. WEP/128. > > >I don't want to spend a ton on new wireless cards for their pc's, but I >feel that WEP isn't worth a crap. > >Any suggestions?? > > >-Bob > > > > upgrade. Check for latest software on the D-link site. Nick Beef wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > I've got a netgear g router that has all kinds of encryption options, I ran into a similar thing when I got a PDA (iPAQ), and a DVR (Toshiba on my > however, my kids computers have older d-link wireless b cards that, > from what I remember, only allow WEP/128. > > I looked for new cards on a couple of sites, but anything fairly > inexpensive seems to only offer the same. WEP/128. > > > I don't want to spend a ton on new wireless cards for their pc's, but > I feel that WEP isn't worth a crap. > > Any suggestions?? > > > -Bob network).. Both supposedly did WEP, worked most of the time (but not always), I just went with authorized mac addresses and dumped the wep altogether. Sure MAC's can be cloned, but wep's/wpa's etc can be hacked. I went for simplicity and a middle of the road way. Adding a table of authorized mac addresses, is pretty simple, and works with all sorts of devices. Peter Pan wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Nick Beef wrote: .... somewhat like hanging a spare housekey on the outside doorknob.>> I've got a netgear g router that has all kinds of encryption options, >> however, my kids computers have older d-link wireless b cards that, >> from what I remember, only allow WEP/128. >> >> I looked for new cards on a couple of sites, but anything fairly >> inexpensive seems to only offer the same. WEP/128. >> >> >> I don't want to spend a ton on new wireless cards for their pc's, but >> I feel that WEP isn't worth a crap. >> >> Any suggestions?? >> >> >> -Bob > > I ran into a similar thing when I got a PDA (iPAQ), and a DVR (Toshiba on > my network).. Both supposedly did WEP, worked most of the time (but not > always), I just went with authorized mac addresses and dumped the wep > altogether. Sure MAC's can be cloned, but wep's/wpa's etc can be hacked. I > went for simplicity and a middle of the road way. > > Adding a table of authorized mac addresses, is pretty simple, and works > with all sorts of devices. Roby wrote:
> ... somewhat like hanging a spare housekey on the outside doorknob. Gads.. not even you stupid dickhead....On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:15:28 -0500, in alt.internet.wireless , Roby
<r***@no-address.net> wrote: >Peter Pan wrote: No, more like hanging a spare housekey inside the house, where it can> >> >> Adding a table of authorized mac addresses, is pretty simple, and works >> with all sorts of devices. > >... somewhat like hanging a spare housekey on the outside doorknob. be seen from outside. Anyone who breaks the glass can grab it, but you do need to have the energy to do so. -- Mark McIntyre CLC FAQ <http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html> CLC readme: <http://www.ungerhu.com/jxh/clc.welcome.txt> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- I upgraded to WPA with a $60 Linksys WRT54G. Simple to set up and just
works. Mark McIntyre <markmcintyre@spamcop.net> wrote in message Show quoteHide quote news:pti641p8ddnbrvmt12619rt3oda1sso763@4ax.com... > On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:15:28 -0500, in alt.internet.wireless , Roby > <r***@no-address.net> wrote: > > >Peter Pan wrote: > > > >> > >> Adding a table of authorized mac addresses, is pretty simple, and works > >> with all sorts of devices. > > > >... somewhat like hanging a spare housekey on the outside doorknob. > > No, more like hanging a spare housekey inside the house, where it can > be seen from outside. Anyone who breaks the glass can grab it, but you > do need to have the energy to do so. > -- > Mark McIntyre > CLC FAQ <http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html> > CLC readme: <http://www.ungerhu.com/jxh/clc.welcome.txt> > > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- What is WPA and how do I access it on a D Link router and D Link card. Both
the latest on the market. Show quoteHide quote "Jack Sandweiss" <sandwe***@dslextreme.com> wrote in message news:1146nm7pdt5oce4@corp.supernews.com... >I upgraded to WPA with a $60 Linksys WRT54G. Simple to set up and just > works. > > Mark McIntyre <markmcintyre@spamcop.net> wrote in message > news:pti641p8ddnbrvmt12619rt3oda1sso763@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:15:28 -0500, in alt.internet.wireless , Roby >> <r***@no-address.net> wrote: >> >> >Peter Pan wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Adding a table of authorized mac addresses, is pretty simple, and >> >> works >> >> with all sorts of devices. >> > >> >... somewhat like hanging a spare housekey on the outside doorknob. >> >> No, more like hanging a spare housekey inside the house, where it can >> be seen from outside. Anyone who breaks the glass can grab it, but you >> do need to have the energy to do so. >> -- >> Mark McIntyre >> CLC FAQ <http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html> >> CLC readme: <http://www.ungerhu.com/jxh/clc.welcome.txt> >> >> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet > News==---- >> http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ > Newsgroups >> ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption > =---- > > Roby schrieb:
>>I ran into a similar thing when I got a PDA (iPAQ), and a DVR (Toshiba on As long a you use non-trivial passwords in PSK (i.e password) mode, no>>my network).. Both supposedly did WEP, worked most of the time (but not >>always), I just went with authorized mac addresses and dumped the wep >>altogether. Sure MAC's can be cloned, but wep's/wpa's etc can be hacked. I >>went for simplicity and a middle of the road way. serious attacks against WPA are known. So, unless you have a complex threat secnario which calls for more but link layer (air signal) encryption anyway, WPA is acceptable. Michael -- Michael Schmidt University of Siegen, Germany http: www.dcs.uni-siegen.de e-mail: schmidt _at_ nue.et-inf.uni-siegen.de Michael, how do I enable that?
I have D LinkAirPlus Extreme G 650 card and DI 624 Router with windows XP. Schoenen Gruss aus USA Ritter Karolus Show quoteHide quote "Michael Schmidt" <NOSPAM_schmidt@nue.et-inf.uni-siegen.de> wrote in message news:3ai6nnF67s88jU1@individual.net... > Roby schrieb: >>>I ran into a similar thing when I got a PDA (iPAQ), and a DVR (Toshiba on >>>my network).. Both supposedly did WEP, worked most of the time (but not >>>always), I just went with authorized mac addresses and dumped the wep >>>altogether. Sure MAC's can be cloned, but wep's/wpa's etc can be hacked. >>>I >>>went for simplicity and a middle of the road way. > > As long a you use non-trivial passwords in PSK (i.e password) mode, no > serious attacks against WPA are known. So, unless you have a complex > threat secnario which calls for more but link layer (air signal) > encryption anyway, WPA is acceptable. > > > Michael > > -- > Michael Schmidt > University of Siegen, Germany > http: www.dcs.uni-siegen.de > e-mail: schmidt _at_ nue.et-inf.uni-siegen.de Peter Pan schrieb:
> I ran into a similar thing when I got a PDA (iPAQ), and a DVR (Toshiba on my As long a you use non-trivial passwords in WPA PSK (i.e password) mode,> network).. Both supposedly did WEP, worked most of the time (but not > always), I just went with authorized mac addresses and dumped the wep > altogether. Sure MAC's can be cloned, but wep's/wpa's etc can be hacked. I > went for simplicity and a middle of the road way. > > Adding a table of authorized mac addresses, is pretty simple, and works with > all sorts of devices. no serious attacks against WPA are known. So, unless you have a complex threat secnario which calls for more but link layer encryption for the air signal anyway, WPA is acceptable. Michael -- Michael Schmidt University of Siegen, Germany http: www.dcs.uni-siegen.de e-mail: schmidt _at_ nue.et-inf.uni-siegen.de In article <3ai6rtF67s88***@individual.net>, NOSPAM_schmidt@nue.et-
inf.uni-siegen.de says... Show quoteHide quote > Peter Pan schrieb: Which brings us back to the original question....> > I ran into a similar thing when I got a PDA (iPAQ), and a DVR (Toshiba on my > > network).. Both supposedly did WEP, worked most of the time (but not > > always), I just went with authorized mac addresses and dumped the wep > > altogether. Sure MAC's can be cloned, but wep's/wpa's etc can be hacked. I > > went for simplicity and a middle of the road way. > > > > Adding a table of authorized mac addresses, is pretty simple, and works with > > all sorts of devices. > > As long a you use non-trivial passwords in WPA PSK (i.e password) mode, > no serious attacks against WPA are known. So, unless you have a complex > threat secnario which calls for more but link layer encryption for the > air signal anyway, WPA is acceptable. I guess I need to find some expensive wireless pci cards that support WPA... -Bob On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:04:22 -0600, Nick Beef
<tifoso***@OVEcomcast.net> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >In article <3ai6rtF67s88***@individual.net>, NOSPAM_schmidt@nue.et- Belkin F5D7001 might fit the bill.>inf.uni-siegen.de says... >> Peter Pan schrieb: >> > I ran into a similar thing when I got a PDA (iPAQ), and a DVR (Toshiba on my >> > network).. Both supposedly did WEP, worked most of the time (but not >> > always), I just went with authorized mac addresses and dumped the wep >> > altogether. Sure MAC's can be cloned, but wep's/wpa's etc can be hacked. I >> > went for simplicity and a middle of the road way. >> > >> > Adding a table of authorized mac addresses, is pretty simple, and works with >> > all sorts of devices. >> >> As long a you use non-trivial passwords in WPA PSK (i.e password) mode, >> no serious attacks against WPA are known. So, unless you have a complex >> threat secnario which calls for more but link layer encryption for the >> air signal anyway, WPA is acceptable. > > >Which brings us back to the original question.... > > >I guess I need to find some expensive wireless pci cards that support >WPA... > Best regards Tony Tony Yarwood wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:04:22 -0600, Nick Beef There are many that support wpa, however, I did the wpa thing, and then got > <tifoso***@OVEcomcast.net> wrote: > >> In article <3ai6rtF67s88***@individual.net>, NOSPAM_schmidt@nue.et- >> inf.uni-siegen.de says... >>> Peter Pan schrieb: >>>> I ran into a similar thing when I got a PDA (iPAQ), and a DVR >>>> (Toshiba on my network).. Both supposedly did WEP, worked most of >>>> the time (but not always), I just went with authorized mac >>>> addresses and dumped the wep altogether. Sure MAC's can be cloned, >>>> but wep's/wpa's etc can be hacked. I went for simplicity and a >>>> middle of the road way. >>>> >>>> Adding a table of authorized mac addresses, is pretty simple, and >>>> works with all sorts of devices. >>> >>> As long a you use non-trivial passwords in WPA PSK (i.e password) >>> mode, no serious attacks against WPA are known. So, unless you have >>> a complex threat secnario which calls for more but link layer >>> encryption for the air signal anyway, WPA is acceptable. >> >> >> Which brings us back to the original question.... >> >> >> I guess I need to find some expensive wireless pci cards that support >> WPA... >> > Belkin F5D7001 might fit the bill. > > Best regards > > Tony the PDA that didn't support wep or wpa, and then a few months later the DVR (does home networking, but also doesn't support wpa, just wep).. Had a choice of going back to wep or nothing, and settled for authorized mac addresses. Point is, consider what you may want to add in the future.. No sense buying cards that do WPA if you will get something in a few months that doesn't. "Peter Pan" <PeterPanNOSPAM@AkamailNOSPAM.com> wrote: Another possibility is to set up two WiFi nets -- a secure one using WPA > There are many that support wpa, however, I did the wpa thing, and then got > the PDA that didn't support wep or wpa, and then a few months later the DVR > (does home networking, but also doesn't support wpa, just wep).. Had a > choice of going back to wep or nothing, and settled for authorized mac > addresses. and an insecure one using WEP. Put the stuff you care about on the secure network. WiFi routers are cheap enough these days (I've seen them as low as $40 after rebate). Roy Smith <r**@panix.com> wrote:
> Another possibility is to set up two WiFi nets -- a secure one using WPA A few Netgear G for $29.99 after rebate. Netgear B for $9.99> and an insecure one using WEP. Put the stuff you care about on the secure > network. WiFi routers are cheap enough these days (I've seen them as low > as $40 after rebate). <http://www.compusa.com/specials/sales/05_3_20/default.asp?prod_group_category_id=1432&pfp=fod> Netgear WGB511 802.11g Wireless Networking Kit $84.99 - $35 = 49.99 WGR614v4 Router and WG511 PCMCIA card that I have. <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000117DGW/qid=1105746394/sr=8-7/ref=pd_csp_7/002-3005537-5404050?v=glance&s=pc&n=507846> This setup works with WindowsXP-SP2 and WPA. I did have to upgrade the drivers for the WG511 card, but that was simple enough. -- --- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 HOW is that done?
My tiny manual on DLink is not addressing security settings at all. I am also using WinXP. Show quoteHide quote "Peter Pan" <PeterPanNOSPAM@AkamailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message news:3agqo9F64jj5oU1@individual.net... > Nick Beef wrote: >> I've got a netgear g router that has all kinds of encryption options, >> however, my kids computers have older d-link wireless b cards that, >> from what I remember, only allow WEP/128. >> >> I looked for new cards on a couple of sites, but anything fairly >> inexpensive seems to only offer the same. WEP/128. >> >> >> I don't want to spend a ton on new wireless cards for their pc's, but >> I feel that WEP isn't worth a crap. >> >> Any suggestions?? >> >> >> -Bob > > I ran into a similar thing when I got a PDA (iPAQ), and a DVR (Toshiba on > my network).. Both supposedly did WEP, worked most of the time (but not > always), I just went with authorized mac addresses and dumped the wep > altogether. Sure MAC's can be cloned, but wep's/wpa's etc can be hacked. I > went for simplicity and a middle of the road way. > > Adding a table of authorized mac addresses, is pretty simple, and works > with all sorts of devices. > Go to http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=6 select the version of your
router, and download the manual (It can be aroung 125 pages, and I use dialup) There are also sucess stories, install guides etc.. It's basically router specific.. Has nothing to do with the cards in your computers. Ritter197 wrote: Show quoteHide quote > HOW is that done? > > My tiny manual on DLink is not addressing security settings at all. > > I am also using WinXP. > "Peter Pan" <PeterPanNOSPAM@AkamailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message > news:3agqo9F64jj5oU1@individual.net... >> Nick Beef wrote: >>> I've got a netgear g router that has all kinds of encryption >>> options, however, my kids computers have older d-link wireless b >>> cards that, from what I remember, only allow WEP/128. >>> >>> I looked for new cards on a couple of sites, but anything fairly >>> inexpensive seems to only offer the same. WEP/128. >>> >>> >>> I don't want to spend a ton on new wireless cards for their pc's, >>> but I feel that WEP isn't worth a crap. >>> >>> Any suggestions?? >>> >>> >>> -Bob >> >> I ran into a similar thing when I got a PDA (iPAQ), and a DVR >> (Toshiba on my network).. Both supposedly did WEP, worked most of >> the time (but not always), I just went with authorized mac addresses >> and dumped the wep altogether. Sure MAC's can be cloned, but >> wep's/wpa's etc can be hacked. I went for simplicity and a middle of >> the road way. Adding a table of authorized mac addresses, is pretty >> simple, and >> works with all sorts of devices. Thank you very much. I went to the site and will study it.
Show quoteHide quote "Peter Pan" <PeterPanNOSPAM@AkamailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message news:3as3rsF6d22t6U1@individual.net... > Go to http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=6 select the version of your > router, and download the manual (It can be aroung 125 pages, and I use > dialup) > There are also sucess stories, install guides etc.. It's basically router > specific.. Has nothing to do with the cards in your computers. > > > Ritter197 wrote: >> HOW is that done? >> >> My tiny manual on DLink is not addressing security settings at all. >> >> I am also using WinXP. >> "Peter Pan" <PeterPanNOSPAM@AkamailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message >> news:3agqo9F64jj5oU1@individual.net... >>> Nick Beef wrote: >>>> I've got a netgear g router that has all kinds of encryption >>>> options, however, my kids computers have older d-link wireless b >>>> cards that, from what I remember, only allow WEP/128. >>>> >>>> I looked for new cards on a couple of sites, but anything fairly >>>> inexpensive seems to only offer the same. WEP/128. >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't want to spend a ton on new wireless cards for their pc's, >>>> but I feel that WEP isn't worth a crap. >>>> >>>> Any suggestions?? >>>> >>>> >>>> -Bob >>> >>> I ran into a similar thing when I got a PDA (iPAQ), and a DVR >>> (Toshiba on my network).. Both supposedly did WEP, worked most of >>> the time (but not always), I just went with authorized mac addresses >>> and dumped the wep altogether. Sure MAC's can be cloned, but >>> wep's/wpa's etc can be hacked. I went for simplicity and a middle of >>> the road way. Adding a table of authorized mac addresses, is pretty >>> simple, and >>> works with all sorts of devices. > > Good luck.. And if you decide to add something else later, it is NOT
mutually exclusive with the allowed MAC address thing... Think of it as a double lock door, and the allowed mac address thing is one, but you can always lock the deadbolt later. Ritter197 wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Thank you very much. I went to the site and will study it. > > "Peter Pan" <PeterPanNOSPAM@AkamailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message > news:3as3rsF6d22t6U1@individual.net... >> Go to http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=6 select the version of your >> router, and download the manual (It can be aroung 125 pages, and I >> use dialup) >> There are also sucess stories, install guides etc.. It's basically >> router specific.. Has nothing to do with the cards in your computers. >> >> >> Ritter197 wrote: >>> HOW is that done? >>> >>> My tiny manual on DLink is not addressing security settings at all. >>> >>> I am also using WinXP. >>> "Peter Pan" <PeterPanNOSPAM@AkamailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message >>> news:3agqo9F64jj5oU1@individual.net... >>>> Nick Beef wrote: >>>>> I've got a netgear g router that has all kinds of encryption >>>>> options, however, my kids computers have older d-link wireless b >>>>> cards that, from what I remember, only allow WEP/128. >>>>> >>>>> I looked for new cards on a couple of sites, but anything fairly >>>>> inexpensive seems to only offer the same. WEP/128. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't want to spend a ton on new wireless cards for their pc's, >>>>> but I feel that WEP isn't worth a crap. >>>>> >>>>> Any suggestions?? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Bob >>>> >>>> I ran into a similar thing when I got a PDA (iPAQ), and a DVR >>>> (Toshiba on my network).. Both supposedly did WEP, worked most of >>>> the time (but not always), I just went with authorized mac >>>> addresses and dumped the wep altogether. Sure MAC's can be cloned, >>>> but wep's/wpa's etc can be hacked. I went for simplicity and a >>>> middle of the road way. Adding a table of authorized mac >>>> addresses, is pretty simple, and >>>> works with all sorts of devices.  
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