> I set up my home network system last September, using a Linksys
> WAG54G Wireless-G ADSL Gateway, wired to my main desktop computer
> and wireless linked to another desktop and a laptop computer. All
> three of our household computers are running Windows XP
> Professional with SP 2, and have been very stable. 
>
> After getting the initial problems all resolved, this network
> setup has been very stable and fast...until last Friday
> afternoon. It started dropping the DSL connection and
> re-connecting in a very erratic pattern. It will not stay up
> longer than about 10 minutes, now. When the connection is up,
> everything seems normal. It is fast and stable for a few minutes,
> then it goes catatonic, again.
>
> I have tried all the standard troubleshooting
> approaches...re-boot, power off and unplug the Gateway for 3
> minutes, etc. but have not found the cause, or a solution to the
> problem.
>
> I can use my dial-up connection, and everything functions as it
> should, but it is sometimes hard to establish a dial-up
> connection. This has led me to think that there may be a phone
> line noise problem. My service provider (swbell.net), denies
> this, and seems reticent to check things out any further.
>
> I even ran a temporary phone cable from my ADSL Gateway to the
> phone service box outside, disconnecting from the household phone
> wiring entirely during this test, but this made no difference. My
> DSL service provider suggested this, before they will start any
> serious effort to locate a line problem.
>
> Is there anything else I should try? I'm even thinking of
> borrowing another ADSL Gateway to see if mine is defective.

>Gordon wrote:
>> I set up my home network system last September, using a Linksys
>> WAG54G Wireless-G ADSL Gateway, wired to my main desktop computer
>> and wireless linked to another desktop and a laptop computer. All
>> three of our household computers are running Windows XP
>> Professional with SP 2, and have been very stable. 
>>
>> After getting the initial problems all resolved, this network
>> setup has been very stable and fast...until last Friday
>> afternoon. It started dropping the DSL connection and
>> re-connecting in a very erratic pattern. It will not stay up
>> longer than about 10 minutes, now. When the connection is up,
>> everything seems normal. It is fast and stable for a few minutes,
>> then it goes catatonic, again.
>>
>> I have tried all the standard troubleshooting
>> approaches...re-boot, power off and unplug the Gateway for 3
>> minutes, etc. but have not found the cause, or a solution to the
>> problem.
>>
>> I can use my dial-up connection, and everything functions as it
>> should, but it is sometimes hard to establish a dial-up
>> connection. This has led me to think that there may be a phone
>> line noise problem. My service provider (swbell.net), denies
>> this, and seems reticent to check things out any further.
>>
>> I even ran a temporary phone cable from my ADSL Gateway to the
>> phone service box outside, disconnecting from the household phone
>> wiring entirely during this test, but this made no difference. My
>> DSL service provider suggested this, before they will start any
>> serious effort to locate a line problem.
>>
>> Is there anything else I should try? I'm even thinking of
>> borrowing another ADSL Gateway to see if mine is defective.
>
>I had a similar problem and it turned out to be one of the microfilters
>I was using.It would intermittently generate noise causing the dsl link
>to drop.
>

"Gordon" <gordo***@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 17:06:06 +0000, NBT <invalid@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>Gordon wrote:
>>> I set up my home network system last September, using a Linksys
>>> WAG54G Wireless-G ADSL Gateway, wired to my main desktop computer
>>> and wireless linked to another desktop and a laptop computer. All
>>> three of our household computers are running Windows XP
>>> Professional with SP 2, and have been very stable.
>>>
>>> After getting the initial problems all resolved, this network
>>> setup has been very stable and fast...until last Friday
>>> afternoon. It started dropping the DSL connection and
>>> re-connecting in a very erratic pattern. It will not stay up
>>> longer than about 10 minutes, now. When the connection is up,
>>> everything seems normal. It is fast and stable for a few minutes,
>>> then it goes catatonic, again.
>>>
>>> I have tried all the standard troubleshooting
>>> approaches...re-boot, power off and unplug the Gateway for 3
>>> minutes, etc. but have not found the cause, or a solution to the
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> I can use my dial-up connection, and everything functions as it
>>> should, but it is sometimes hard to establish a dial-up
>>> connection. This has led me to think that there may be a phone
>>> line noise problem. My service provider (swbell.net), denies
>>> this, and seems reticent to check things out any further.
>>>
>>> I even ran a temporary phone cable from my ADSL Gateway to the
>>> phone service box outside, disconnecting from the household phone
>>> wiring entirely during this test, but this made no difference. My
>>> DSL service provider suggested this, before they will start any
>>> serious effort to locate a line problem.
>>>
>>> Is there anything else I should try? I'm even thinking of
>>> borrowing another ADSL Gateway to see if mine is defective.
>>
>>I had a similar problem and it turned out to be one of the microfilters
>>I was using.It would intermittently generate noise causing the dsl link
>>to drop.
>>
> Thanks for this suggestion. I have some spare microfilters. I'll
> try switching them. However, these were not in the circuit while
> I was hooked up to the phone service entrance box, outside. That
> is, I had the entire household phone wiring disconnected from the
> service drop line, and had my WAG54G Gateway connected directly
> to this phone service drop, using a long phone patch cable. The
> problem persisted, unchanged in any way that I could tell. I also
> tested my dial-up service with this phone hook-up, and it too was
> flaky.

"Gordon" <gordo***@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:27:21 -0700, "Teddybare"
> <wlind***@konnections.net> wrote:
>
> [snip]
> >
> >Contact your dsl provider and get them in on the problem. They can make
the
> >phone Co. fix the line or at least help find the cause of your problem.
> >I had the same problem. It was the phone Co. I was on Qwest with Covad as
> >adsl provider. Covad wimped out. TOSSED BOTH OUT. Now I have new phone
> >Co.and SDSL and now ME HAPPY CAMPER. : )))))
> >
> Teddybare, I have already done this, but so far it has not gotten
> them to take any action on the problem. My ISP and my phone
> company are one and the same...SWBell. Their posture is that if
> they send a technician out and find no problem with their line or
> service entrance drop, they will have to bill me for the cost of
> this work. They claim to have already checked my line with their
> facilities at the phone central office. They claim to have found
> it within specs as far as noise is concerned. I contend that the
> noise is intermittent, and may not be discernable for several
> minutes at a time. It seems to knock the connection down about
> every 10 minutes, give or take.
>
> I also wonder if their phone central office check would reveal a
> noise problem caused by an intermittent connection at the service
> drop to my house. They are looking at the problem from the wrong
> end of the line, it seems to me. With all my phones on the hook,
> and my DSL Router presenting only a very high impedance load,
> would a line connections problem really reflect back to the
> central office test equipment? I think not, at least not very
> noticeably.

>Many years ago (1989 maybe) I had a similar intermittent problem with my
>dialup connection to the local university (back then it might have been no
>more than 1200 baud!).
>
>Continually complaining to the phone company had not effect - they were not
>obliged to give data service!
>
>But a little analysis on my part and pushing on the phone company finally
>resulted in a solution.
>
>How often does the problem occur? EXACTLY? I found that the interference
>that caused the modem to drop happened at exactly 3, 18,33 and 48 minutes
>after the hour.
>
>Complaining to the phone company that I was going the state public service
>commission and finally having a phone guy here to see the problem occur as I
>predicted got some results. Asked customer service at the phone company what
>would happen if the president of the phone company had the same problem,
>would it get fixed? Needed to be pretty forceful to get decent response from
>them!
>
>Turned out the Unix based phone switch was doing a reset of some type. Phone
>company, an independent, finally went back to ATT Naperville were the patch
>for the problem had been published long ago. Never really got this from the
>phone company but the problem disappeared and sometime later another phone
>guy told me what was the cause.
>
>"Gordon" <gordo***@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
>news:uj7p31t7qlrmhjsro7sbl7tsemmm82ml8s@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:27:21 -0700, "Teddybare"
>> <wlind***@konnections.net> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>> >
>> >Contact your dsl provider and get them in on the problem. They can make
>the
>> >phone Co. fix the line or at least help find the cause of your problem.
>> >I had the same problem. It was the phone Co. I was on Qwest with Covad as
>> >adsl provider. Covad wimped out. TOSSED BOTH OUT. Now I have new phone
>> >Co.and SDSL and now ME HAPPY CAMPER. : )))))
>> >
>> Teddybare, I have already done this, but so far it has not gotten
>> them to take any action on the problem. My ISP and my phone
>> company are one and the same...SWBell. Their posture is that if
>> they send a technician out and find no problem with their line or
>> service entrance drop, they will have to bill me for the cost of
>> this work. They claim to have already checked my line with their
>> facilities at the phone central office. They claim to have found
>> it within specs as far as noise is concerned. I contend that the
>> noise is intermittent, and may not be discernable for several
>> minutes at a time. It seems to knock the connection down about
>> every 10 minutes, give or take.
>>
>> I also wonder if their phone central office check would reveal a
>> noise problem caused by an intermittent connection at the service
>> drop to my house. They are looking at the problem from the wrong
>> end of the line, it seems to me. With all my phones on the hook,
>> and my DSL Router presenting only a very high impedance load,
>> would a line connections problem really reflect back to the
>> central office test equipment? I think not, at least not very
>> noticeably.
>