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of card to get the strongest signal. My thoughts are that some PCMCIA cards allow external antennas, so this could give me better options to get a stronger signal. Doesn't USB need to use the processor to work out what it is that's coming in, so could add an overhead compared to PCMCIA? Could put an extension cord to allow better placement of the USB dongle. So, I'm not really decided on whether to get a USB over PCMCIA. Do certain ones receive better than others? This is going to be used pretty much for email and internet usage only. I don't tend to stream over the network etc as I only have a small flat. Thanks Nick "elyob" <newsprof***@gmail.com> wrote in You'll want a PCMCIA card... When using a laptop you don't wnat a USB thiny news:kgEXd.843$QN1.245@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk: > Getting a new laptop without built-in wireless. So, am wondering which > type of card to get the strongest signal. My thoughts are that some > PCMCIA cards allow external antennas, so this could give me better > options to get a stronger signal. > Doesn't USB need to use the processor to work out what it is that's > coming in, so could add an overhead compared to PCMCIA? Could put an > extension cord to allow better placement of the USB dongle. dangling around. Is this a new laptop? Perhaps you can just buy a Mini-PCI wifi card. Or even better, reconsider and purchase a laptop WITH wireless : ) -- Lucas Tam (REMOVEn***@rogers.com) Please delete "REMOVE" from the e-mail address when replying. http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/coolspot18/
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"Lucas Tam" <REMOVEn***@rogers.com> wrote in message Thanks for the info. Unfortunately I couldn't stretch for internal wireless, news:Xns9614693322EB4nntprogerscom@127.0.0.1... > "elyob" <newsprof***@gmail.com> wrote in > news:kgEXd.843$QN1.245@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk: > >> Getting a new laptop without built-in wireless. So, am wondering which >> type of card to get the strongest signal. My thoughts are that some >> PCMCIA cards allow external antennas, so this could give me better >> options to get a stronger signal. >> Doesn't USB need to use the processor to work out what it is that's >> coming in, so could add an overhead compared to PCMCIA? Could put an >> extension cord to allow better placement of the USB dongle. > > > You'll want a PCMCIA card... When using a laptop you don't wnat a USB > thiny > dangling around. > > Is this a new laptop? Perhaps you can just buy a Mini-PCI wifi card. Or > even better, reconsider and purchase a laptop WITH wireless : ) it's a cheapy laptop (although is brand new). So, I went for better processor and battery life. I've not really seen the mini-PCI cards .. is that an internal card? I looked at ebuyer.co.uk and they seemed pretty expensive compared to PCMCIA. I don't mind the dongle dangle with USB. However, I'm just concerned of bending bits and pieces when travelling. Nick > Thanks for the info. Unfortunately I couldn't stretch for internal wireless, I'd go for PCMCIA, as I think there is an processing overhead with usb. > it's a cheapy laptop (although is brand new). So, I went for better > processor and battery life. I've not really seen the mini-PCI cards .. is > that an internal card? I looked at ebuyer.co.uk and they seemed pretty > expensive compared to PCMCIA. > > I don't mind the dongle dangle with USB. However, I'm just concerned of > bending bits and pieces when travelling. > > Nick > > I bought a 3Com 3CRPAG175 as it has a folding antenna ("XJACK") so you can leave it in the laptop all the time, and it doesn't stick out. However, it's not cheap, and I've had a dissapointing experience with 3Com support recently (see my earlier post "3crwe454g72"). USB does however have the advantage that you can use an extension cable to position the adaptor for best coverage. "elyob" <newsprof***@gmail.com> wrote in I think you can get Mini-PCI (802.11b) cards for ~20USD... of course your news:jKEXd.857$QN1.48@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk: > So, I went for better > processor and battery life. I've not really seen the mini-PCI cards .. > is that an internal card? I looked at ebuyer.co.uk and they seemed > pretty expensive compared to PCMCIA. laptop will have to support the card (i.e. have a built in antenna). Does another variant of your laptop have an internal wireless card? If it does, there is a good chance your laptop will have the built in antenna. BTW, which laptop are you going to purchase? > I don't mind the dongle dangle with USB. However, I'm just concerned Exactly - I find it's a hassle having loose parts dangling around > of bending bits and pieces when travelling. especially if you move around a lot. -- Lucas Tam (REMOVEn***@rogers.com) Please delete "REMOVE" from the e-mail address when replying. http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/coolspot18/
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"Lucas Tam" <REMOVEn***@rogers.com> wrote in message Acer Aspire 1362LC AMD Sempron 2800+ 256MB 40GB DVD/CD-RW 15" XP Pronews:Xns9614AD35F9FF9nntprogerscom@127.0.0.1... > "elyob" <newsprof***@gmail.com> wrote in > news:jKEXd.857$QN1.48@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk: > >> So, I went for better >> processor and battery life. I've not really seen the mini-PCI cards .. >> is that an internal card? I looked at ebuyer.co.uk and they seemed >> pretty expensive compared to PCMCIA. > > I think you can get Mini-PCI (802.11b) cards for ~20USD... of course your > laptop will have to support the card (i.e. have a built in antenna). Does > another variant of your laptop have an internal wireless card? If it does, > there is a good chance your laptop will have the built in antenna. > > BTW, which laptop are you going to purchase? > Some of the higher Acer Aspire's have wireless. I do have a http://www.solwise.co.uk/wireless-wl0011mpplus.htm, or similar to this. It allows an external aerial, but with a new laptop I'm trying to see whether receive powers have improved on PCMCIA cards. I'd like something like this (internal & external antenna). An internal mini-PCI means to chance for better signal, but willing to investigate. The current PCMCIA card may go with my old laptop as a 'selling point'. elyob <newsprof***@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the info. Unfortunately I couldn't stretch for internal A friend just bought a Compaq R3000Z very cheaply. There was a wireless> wireless, it's a cheapy laptop (although is brand new). So, I went for > better processor and battery life. I've not really seen the mini-PCI > cards .. is that an internal card? option, but I thought it was a PCMCIA card, so I advised against that, since I have a spare one that I'll give her. Now I think the option might have been internal. The Mini-PCI card typically goes into the bottom of the laptop, covered by a metal panel similar to the way memory is added. It's a little smaller than a PCMCIA card. The factory installed versions will probably have a loop antenna built into the back of the display, so they might get better coverage than a PCMCIA card. If you didn't get the factory option, the cable might still be there. Look inside the hatch for one or two little connectors. There are Mini-PCI cards on eBay for $20-$70, but I don't see any for sale at usual retial outlets. -- --- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 d***@XReXXPCMCI.usenet.us.com wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > elyob <newsprof***@gmail.com> wrote: I popped open the mini-pci slot and couldn't see any little wires lying > >>Thanks for the info. Unfortunately I couldn't stretch for internal >>wireless, it's a cheapy laptop (although is brand new). So, I went for >>better processor and battery life. I've not really seen the mini-PCI >>cards .. is that an internal card? > > > A friend just bought a Compaq R3000Z very cheaply. There was a wireless > option, but I thought it was a PCMCIA card, so I advised against that, > since I have a spare one that I'll give her. > > Now I think the option might have been internal. > The Mini-PCI card typically goes into the bottom of the laptop, covered by > a metal panel similar to the way memory is added. It's a little smaller > than a PCMCIA card. The factory installed versions will probably have a loop > antenna built into the back of the display, so they might get better > coverage than a PCMCIA card. If you didn't get the factory option, the > cable might still be there. Look inside the hatch for one or two little > connectors. > > There are Mini-PCI cards on eBay for $20-$70, but I don't see any for sale > at usual retial outlets. > > about. I guess I don't have the neccesary antenna built into the screen. If so, that's a shame they didn't build the wires in for future upgrades. Retrofit the wire? Probably not worth the effort I reckon. On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 15:18:00 GMT, Lucas Tam <REMOVEn***@rogers.com> wrote:
Show quoteHide quote >"elyob" <newsprof***@gmail.com> wrote in More likely a cardbus card.>news:kgEXd.843$QN1.245@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk: > >> Getting a new laptop without built-in wireless. So, am wondering which >> type of card to get the strongest signal. My thoughts are that some >> PCMCIA cards allow external antennas, so this could give me better >> options to get a stronger signal. >> Doesn't USB need to use the processor to work out what it is that's >> coming in, so could add an overhead compared to PCMCIA? Could put an >> extension cord to allow better placement of the USB dongle. > > >You'll want a PCMCIA card... When using a laptop you don't wnat a USB thiny >dangling around. >Is this a new laptop? Perhaps you can just buy a Mini-PCI wifi card. Or Barry>even better, reconsider and purchase a laptop WITH wireless : ) > >-- >Lucas Tam (REMOVEn***@rogers.com) >Please delete "REMOVE" from the e-mail address when replying. >http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/coolspot18/ elyob wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Getting a new laptop without built-in wireless. So, am wondering Consider something that does BOTH...> which type of card to get the strongest signal. My thoughts are that > some PCMCIA cards allow external antennas, so this could give me > better options to get a stronger signal. > Doesn't USB need to use the processor to work out what it is that's > coming in, so could add an overhead compared to PCMCIA? Could put an > extension cord to allow better placement of the USB dongle. > > So, I'm not really decided on whether to get a USB over PCMCIA. Do > certain ones receive better than others? > > This is going to be used pretty much for email and internet usage > only. I don't tend to stream over the network etc as I only have a > small flat. > Thanks > > Nick Here's a new toy that's perfect for both mobile and fixed use for RV'rs... It's a Linksys WUSB54GP Wireless-G Portable USB Adapter (http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33&scid=36&prid=669). The little USB wireless dongle (2 " long) can go into a USB port on a laptop, or when at home, can go into the device shown at that link (USB cable connected, i.e. sit in the window for a better signal, works with the USB extension cables, and can be 21-75 FT away tested with 21, ads say up to 75). The extension cables are cheaper at some other places, but here's a link to 16 FT extension Cables at Best Buy http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6941358&type=product&id=1099381057741 (they are pretty prevalent, also at Office Depot/Circuit City/even Radio Shack)
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"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message It's a big bit of equipment though! What about a PCMCIA & Bluetooth in one? news:398tljF5sapqtU1@individual.net... > elyob wrote: >> Getting a new laptop without built-in wireless. So, am wondering >> which type of card to get the strongest signal. My thoughts are that >> some PCMCIA cards allow external antennas, so this could give me >> better options to get a stronger signal. >> Doesn't USB need to use the processor to work out what it is that's >> coming in, so could add an overhead compared to PCMCIA? Could put an >> extension cord to allow better placement of the USB dongle. >> >> So, I'm not really decided on whether to get a USB over PCMCIA. Do >> certain ones receive better than others? >> >> This is going to be used pretty much for email and internet usage >> only. I don't tend to stream over the network etc as I only have a >> small flat. >> Thanks >> >> Nick > > Consider something that does BOTH... > > Here's a new toy that's perfect for both mobile and fixed use for RV'rs... > It's a Linksys WUSB54GP Wireless-G Portable USB Adapter > (http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33&scid=36&prid=669). > The little USB wireless dongle (2 " long) can go into a USB port on a > laptop, or when at home, can go into the device shown at that link (USB > cable connected, i.e. sit in the window for a better signal, works with > the USB extension cables, and can be 21-75 FT away tested with 21, ads say > up to 75). The extension cables are cheaper at some other places, but > here's a link to 16 FT extension Cables at Best Buy > http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6941358&type=product&id=1099381057741 > (they are pretty prevalent, also at Office Depot/Circuit City/even Radio > Shack) > Anything like that available? elyob wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message If you look at the picture, the "dongle itself" is rather small (under 2" x > news:398tljF5sapqtU1@individual.net... >> elyob wrote: >>> Getting a new laptop without built-in wireless. So, am wondering >>> which type of card to get the strongest signal. My thoughts are that >>> some PCMCIA cards allow external antennas, so this could give me >>> better options to get a stronger signal. >>> Doesn't USB need to use the processor to work out what it is that's >>> coming in, so could add an overhead compared to PCMCIA? Could put an >>> extension cord to allow better placement of the USB dongle. >>> >>> So, I'm not really decided on whether to get a USB over PCMCIA. Do >>> certain ones receive better than others? >>> >>> This is going to be used pretty much for email and internet usage >>> only. I don't tend to stream over the network etc as I only have a >>> small flat. >>> Thanks >>> >>> Nick >> >> Consider something that does BOTH... >> >> Here's a new toy that's perfect for both mobile and fixed use for >> RV'rs... It's a Linksys WUSB54GP Wireless-G Portable USB Adapter >> (http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33&scid=36&prid=669). >> The little USB wireless dongle (2 " long) can go into a USB port on a >> laptop, or when at home, can go into the device shown at that link >> (USB cable connected, i.e. sit in the window for a better signal, >> works with the USB extension cables, and can be 21-75 FT away tested >> with 21, ads say up to 75). The extension cables are cheaper at some >> other places, but here's a link to 16 FT extension Cables at Best Buy >> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6941358&type=product&id=1099381057741 >> (they are pretty prevalent, also at Office Depot/Circuit City/even >> Radio Shack) >> > > It's a big bit of equipment though! What about a PCMCIA & Bluetooth > in one? Anything like that available? 3/4"), it's the cable and stand that are big. The antenna itself goes up/down etc. Bluetooth... forget it It's short range (like 30 ft or so) PCMCIA/Cardbus, may/may not be useful.. Depends what you want to do. Be aware that the large majority of cards do *not* have external antenna connectors.. Only about 1 in 10, and that 1 is usually way more expensive. While USB will use a very small % of the processor (usually less than 1/100 of 1%), Wifi, even at high speed g will only use maybe 2/100 of 1%... That would leave 99.7% unused. Most laptops with wireless built in, have an antenna built into the lid (usually a wire around the lcd screen), and that works much much better than the internal in pcmcia/cardbus cards (that little black plastic rectangular part at the end of the card is the antenna). For what it's worth, I have a few laptops here, both internal cards and USB devices, and WiFi both here and at work, and find the cards sitting in my junk drawer, and mostly using the USB dongles. For my use, they are more convenient.
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"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message I thought my bluetooth phone might be useful when not in a wifi area. I've news:399bldF60k49dU1@individual.net... > elyob wrote: >> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@HotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message >> news:398tljF5sapqtU1@individual.net... >>> elyob wrote: >>>> Getting a new laptop without built-in wireless. So, am wondering >>>> which type of card to get the strongest signal. My thoughts are that >>>> some PCMCIA cards allow external antennas, so this could give me >>>> better options to get a stronger signal. >>>> Doesn't USB need to use the processor to work out what it is that's >>>> coming in, so could add an overhead compared to PCMCIA? Could put an >>>> extension cord to allow better placement of the USB dongle. >>>> >>>> So, I'm not really decided on whether to get a USB over PCMCIA. Do >>>> certain ones receive better than others? >>>> >>>> This is going to be used pretty much for email and internet usage >>>> only. I don't tend to stream over the network etc as I only have a >>>> small flat. >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Nick >>> >>> Consider something that does BOTH... >>> >>> Here's a new toy that's perfect for both mobile and fixed use for >>> RV'rs... It's a Linksys WUSB54GP Wireless-G Portable USB Adapter >>> (http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33&scid=36&prid=669). >>> The little USB wireless dongle (2 " long) can go into a USB port on a >>> laptop, or when at home, can go into the device shown at that link >>> (USB cable connected, i.e. sit in the window for a better signal, >>> works with the USB extension cables, and can be 21-75 FT away tested >>> with 21, ads say up to 75). The extension cables are cheaper at some >>> other places, but here's a link to 16 FT extension Cables at Best Buy >>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6941358&type=product&id=1099381057741 >>> (they are pretty prevalent, also at Office Depot/Circuit City/even >>> Radio Shack) >>> >> >> It's a big bit of equipment though! What about a PCMCIA & Bluetooth >> in one? Anything like that available? > > Bluetooth... forget it It's short range (like 30 ft or so) GPRS on that, so could find it useful when on a train etc. Show quoteHide quote > I too thought the USB would be more convenient, but want to find a supplier > PCMCIA/Cardbus, may/may not be useful.. Depends what you want to do. Be > aware that the large majority of cards do *not* have external antenna > connectors.. Only about 1 in 10, and that 1 is usually way more expensive. > While USB will use a very small % of the processor (usually less than > 1/100 of 1%), Wifi, even at high speed g will only use maybe 2/100 of > 1%... That would leave 99.7% unused. > Most laptops with wireless built in, have an antenna built into the lid > (usually a wire around the lcd screen), and that works much much better > than the internal in pcmcia/cardbus cards (that little black plastic > rectangular part at the end of the card is the antenna). > > For what it's worth, I have a few laptops here, both internal cards and > USB devices, and WiFi both here and at work, and find the cards sitting in > my junk drawer, and mostly using the USB dongles. For my use, they are > more convenient. of an extension cable that is flush with the back of a laptop, so I don't have to remember to take it out! It only takes one muck up, and I've wrecked both a cable and USB port. I guess the USB wouldn't take up too much power, so will take that equation out of my choice. So, I'm down to USB dongle, with a flush extension (are they really as powerful?), a mini-PCI card (will my "Acer Aspire 1362LC AMD Sempron 2800+ 256MB 40GB DVD/CD-RW 15" XP Pro" have a wireless loop in the screen?), or a PCMCIA (I want an external antenna and a big powerful *****!) At least I'm narrowing it down! I found that my PCMCIA card has very poor reception on my desk, looked into
aerials, but it was actually cheaper to buy Orinoco USB adapter on 1.5m cable, placing it on a shelf 5' high made all the difference. Works great Keep the PCMCIA card in my travel bag now. Regards, Martin
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"elyob" <newsprof***@gmail.com> wrote in message I'd go with PCMCIA. A USB piece of hardware, with a verticle antenna, wouldnews:kgEXd.843$QN1.245@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk... > Getting a new laptop without built-in wireless. So, am wondering which type > of card to get the strongest signal. My thoughts are that some PCMCIA cards > allow external antennas, so this could give me better options to get a > stronger signal. > Doesn't USB need to use the processor to work out what it is that's coming > in, so could add an overhead compared to PCMCIA? Could put an extension cord > to allow better placement of the USB dongle. > > So, I'm not really decided on whether to get a USB over PCMCIA. Do certain > ones receive better than others? > > This is going to be used pretty much for email and internet usage only. I > don't tend to stream over the network etc as I only have a small flat. > > Thanks > > Nick give a better RSL than a PCMCIA card with an internal horizonal antenna, but I doubt receive levels are going to be any problem at all in "small flat". I'm in a three-story (four, if you count the refinished basement) home and have no problems using a laptop with a PCMCIA wireless card in most of my house. This is even with 802.11a (5 Ghz), which has less range than 802.11g/b (2.4 Ghz). My routers and AP's are located on the middle floor. The top floor was getting a low signal strength, but I've since added a repeater. (Low signal strength on top floor was just for 802.11a. 802.11g/b was well operational before adding a repeater.) The main reason for PCMCIA is simply convienence. Lugging around additional hardware with a laptop, at least for me, is a major PITA. Only thing I want to lug around with a laptop is the power adapter and an optical USB mouse. Never had any problems with the PCMCIA card while using public (mainly, hotels) hot spots. Works just fine. The PCMCIA card sticks out about an inch, but the laptop fits nicely in the laptop bag without having to remove the card. Cheers, -Eric Eric <ericmau0***@hotmail.remove.com> wrote:
> I'd go with PCMCIA. A USB piece of hardware, with a verticle antenna, would I have a Netgear WG511 in the laptop, and a DWL-122 USB mini-dongle in the> give a better RSL than a PCMCIA card with an internal horizonal antenna, but > I doubt receive levels are going to be any problem at all in "small flat". laptop bag. I use the DWL on someone else's computer for an ad-hoc connection in an environment where there is normally no network. I could use it for an "external" antenna on the laptop if I needed it. It only cost $9.99, and the G cards are around $19.99, so... one of each. I don't think any of the commodity "g" cards have external antenna connections. I'd rather carry the USB than an extra antenna. > Never had any problems with the PCMCIA card while using public (mainly, I don't remove my card at all. I bonked it into the wall today crawling> hotels) hot spots. Works just fine. The PCMCIA card sticks out about an > inch, but the laptop fits nicely in the laptop bag without having to remove > the card. behind some racks, but I haven't had any other traumatic events with it. -- --- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 You want one of these. They work great on laptops.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5758269620 Show quoteHide quote "elyob" <newsprof***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:kgEXd.843$QN1.245@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk... > Getting a new laptop without built-in wireless. So, am wondering which > type of card to get the strongest signal. My thoughts are that some PCMCIA > cards allow external antennas, so this could give me better options to get > a stronger signal. > Doesn't USB need to use the processor to work out what it is that's coming > in, so could add an overhead compared to PCMCIA? Could put an extension > cord to allow better placement of the USB dongle. > > So, I'm not really decided on whether to get a USB over PCMCIA. Do certain > ones receive better than others? > > This is going to be used pretty much for email and internet usage only. I > don't tend to stream over the network etc as I only have a small flat. > > Thanks > > Nick > 
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