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Author
6 Mar 2005 5:15 PM
Ulf
I've just bought a Netgear WGR614 wireless router which I've added to my
existing LAN. In order for my wireless clients to access both the
internet and all the shared resources on different computers I've given
it an IP address (192.168.11.11) and connected it using only the LAN
port to the existing network. Everything works great, except that now
I'm not able to access the settings through www.routerlogin.net or its
IP address. I don't want to reset the router since everything is
working, however I'd like to change the security settings on the WLAN,
but I can't. I already have a firewall that I'd like to keep as it is,
and which works just as it should.

This is how it's connected:

http://www.dslwebserver.com/main/fr_index.html?/main/wireless-router-as-access-point.html

Anyone been in a similar situation, and what's the solution?

Thanks,

Ulf

Author
6 Mar 2005 6:10 PM
GTS
You need to temporarily connect it directly to one of your computers like
this - Set the PC to a static IP address in the 192.168.11.xx range and
subnet matching the router (probably 255.255.255.0);  Connect the PC's
Ethernet port to a LAN port on the router.  (Alternatively to the WAN port,
but that would probably need a crossover cable.)  Open your browser to
http://192.168.11.11 to access the router configuration.   After your
changes, reset the PC to DHCP (assuming it's that way now).
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"Ulf" <a***@asdf.asdf> wrote in message
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> I've just bought a Netgear WGR614 wireless router which I've added to my
> existing LAN. In order for my wireless clients to access both the internet
> and all the shared resources on different computers I've given it an IP
> address (192.168.11.11) and connected it using only the LAN port to the
> existing network. Everything works great, except that now I'm not able to
> access the settings through www.routerlogin.net or its IP address. I don't
> want to reset the router since everything is working, however I'd like to
> change the security settings on the WLAN, but I can't. I already have a
> firewall that I'd like to keep as it is, and which works just as it
> should.
>
> This is how it's connected:
>
> http://www.dslwebserver.com/main/fr_index.html?/main/wireless-router-as-access-point.html
>
> Anyone been in a similar situation, and what's the solution?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ulf
Author
6 Mar 2005 8:26 PM
Gray Ghost
GTS,

I had a similar problem to this, though the only thing that I'm
currently not able to do is to use file sharing.  Any tips? Hints? Thoughts?

I have a Linksys WRT54g as the main router and then a Netgear WGU624
with the 802.11b/g turned off and only using it as an 802.11a access point.

Thanks,
-gg-

GTS wrote:
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> You need to temporarily connect it directly to one of your computers like
> this - Set the PC to a static IP address in the 192.168.11.xx range and
> subnet matching the router (probably 255.255.255.0);  Connect the PC's
> Ethernet port to a LAN port on the router.  (Alternatively to the WAN port,
> but that would probably need a crossover cable.)  Open your browser to
> http://192.168.11.11 to access the router configuration.   After your
> changes, reset the PC to DHCP (assuming it's that way now).
Author
6 Mar 2005 10:00 PM
GTS
I take it you can access the Internet but not the other networked
computer(s)?   Assuming your file sharing is otherwise properly setup, that
probably indicates the Netgear is not configured correctly.   When chaining
a router (not the best idea, but doable) it must have a static IP address in
the (non-DHCP) range of the primary, have it's own DHCP disabled, and be
connected by a LAN port.

See  http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html   or
http://www.dslwebserver.com/main/fr_index.html?/main/wireless-router-as-access-point.html
for more info.
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"Gray Ghost" <grayghost@themosthost.coommm> wrote in message
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> GTS,
>
> I had a similar problem to this, though the only thing that I'm
> currently not able to do is to use file sharing.  Any tips? Hints?
> Thoughts?
>
> I have a Linksys WRT54g as the main router and then a Netgear WGU624
> with the 802.11b/g turned off and only using it as an 802.11a access
> point.
>
> Thanks,
> -gg-
>
> GTS wrote:
>> You need to temporarily connect it directly to one of your computers like
>> this - Set the PC to a static IP address in the 192.168.11.xx range and
>> subnet matching the router (probably 255.255.255.0);  Connect the PC's
>> Ethernet port to a LAN port on the router.  (Alternatively to the WAN
>> port,
>> but that would probably need a crossover cable.)  Open your browser to
>> http://192.168.11.11 to access the router configuration.   After your
>> changes, reset the PC to DHCP (assuming it's that way now).
Author
6 Mar 2005 10:31 PM
Gray Ghost
GTS,

Thanks for the information.  I read through the second document that you
listed and that's what I had done before :-D

-D

GTS wrote:
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> I take it you can access the Internet but not the other networked
> computer(s)?   Assuming your file sharing is otherwise properly setup, that
> probably indicates the Netgear is not configured correctly.   When chaining
> a router (not the best idea, but doable) it must have a static IP address in
> the (non-DHCP) range of the primary, have it's own DHCP disabled, and be
> connected by a LAN port.
>
> See  http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html   or
> http://www.dslwebserver.com/main/fr_index.html?/main/wireless-router-as-access-point.html
> for more info.
Author
7 Mar 2005 3:18 PM
GTS
Does file sharing work if you take the Netgear out of the circuit?  Can you
ping the other workstation?
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"Gray Ghost" <grayghost@themosthost.coommm> wrote in message
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> GTS,
>
> Thanks for the information.  I read through the second document that you
> listed and that's what I had done before :-D
>
> -D
>
> GTS wrote:
>> I take it you can access the Internet but not the other networked
>> computer(s)?   Assuming your file sharing is otherwise properly setup,
>> that
>> probably indicates the Netgear is not configured correctly.   When
>> chaining
>> a router (not the best idea, but doable) it must have a static IP address
>> in
>> the (non-DHCP) range of the primary, have it's own DHCP disabled, and be
>> connected by a LAN port.
>>
>> See  http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html   or
>> http://www.dslwebserver.com/main/fr_index.html?/main/wireless-router-as-access-point.html
>> for more info.
Author
8 Mar 2005 3:58 AM
Gray Ghost
GTS,

Thanks for the reply... after tooling around with my laptop some more I
found that the driver for the nic was corrupt... and giving me other
issues as well.  So now I have my netgear 802.11a/g router working as an
802.11a access point and am able share files seamlessly.  All is well in
this Ghost's villa :-D

Thanks,
-gg-

GTS wrote:


You know you're a hacker when you never met most of your friends :)

* TagZilla 0.057 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org> Does file sharing work if
you take the Netgear out of the circuit?  Can you
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Author
8 Mar 2005 2:58 PM
GTS
Your welcome.
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"Gray Ghost" <grayghost@themosthost.coommm> wrote in message
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> GTS,
>
> Thanks for the reply... after tooling around with my laptop some more I
> found that the driver for the nic was corrupt... and giving me other
> issues as well.  So now I have my netgear 802.11a/g router working as an
> 802.11a access point and am able share files seamlessly.  All is well in
> this Ghost's villa :-D
>
> Thanks,
> -gg-
>
> GTS wrote:
>
>
> You know you're a hacker when you never met most of your friends :)
>
> * TagZilla 0.057 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org> Does file sharing work if
> you take the Netgear out of the circuit?  Can you
>> ping the other workstation?
Author
6 Mar 2005 8:25 PM
dold
Ulf <a***@asdf.asdf> wrote:
> port to the existing network. Everything works great, except that now
> I'm not able to access the settings through www.routerlogin.net or its
> IP address.

You should be able to connect to it via the LAN IP address that you
assigned to it.  Some routers don't work well if their WAN side is looking
for a DHCP assigned address and can't find one. 
You might try connecting immediately after a power cycle of the router, or
temporarily connect the WAN connection to you existing router, just to make
the DHCP-hunt happier.
You might have to go back to factory defaults and assign a static address
on an unused 192.168 subnet to the WAN side (like 192.168.22.11).

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA  38.8,-122.5
Author
7 Mar 2005 8:39 PM
Ulf
d***@XReXXProbl.usenet.us.com wrote:
> Ulf <a***@asdf.asdf> wrote:
>
>>port to the existing network. Everything works great, except that now
>>I'm not able to access the settings through www.routerlogin.net or its
>>IP address.
>
>
> You should be able to connect to it via the LAN IP address that you
> assigned to it.  Some routers don't work well if their WAN side is looking
> for a DHCP assigned address and can't find one. 
> You might try connecting immediately after a power cycle of the router, or
> temporarily connect the WAN connection to you existing router, just to make
> the DHCP-hunt happier.

I tried all that, but non of it worked so I gave up and reset the
router. Why would they design a router on which the settings can't be
modified unless it's connected to the internet? Doesn't sound very
thought through to me.

> You might have to go back to factory defaults and assign a static address
> on an unused 192.168 subnet to the WAN side (like 192.168.22.11).

Right, but then I wouldn't be able to share files between the computers.

Thanks for your help guys anyway.

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Ulf