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Author
27 Feb 2005 1:40 AM
Joey_
Hi,
    Installing my new Netgear MA401 WiFi card on this Toshiba Tecra 8000
laptop causes all Windows 98 networking applications to crash - they barely
even open, and I have no internet access when this happens. This is the
sequence:

    1. Laptop PC has internet access working fine with my PCMCIA Ethernet
card hard-wired to my DSL Modem/Ethernet-Switch/Wifi-Access-Point.

    2. I install the Netgear WiFi card in the other PCMCIA socket, and the
Netgear drivers (no errors), then restart Win 98 as diredcted.

    3. I open Outlook Express - it immediately crashes with a fatal error. I
open Internet Explorer and try to reach any web page, even my router's
config page - it immediately crashes and wants to send the 'problem report'
to Microsoft.

    While these programs are crashing, the ethernet connection is still
present and hard-wired to my router, and the WiFi card is not yet configured
to access the same router (i haven't set the SSID yet, so there's no network
connection on that interface). I can recover only by restoring a previously
copied registry. Netgear does not have any solution. Any ideas?

thanks,
js.

Author
27 Feb 2005 1:57 AM
bumtracks
maybe;; remove the wired pc nic, maybe disable it in device mgr.

fwiw;   winME would not run on Toshiba sat/lap here w/wifi pc card plugged
in until disconnecting internal LAN in control panels  ToshibaHdweSetup
doesn't seem to matter with XP

"Joey_" <x15mnijREMOVE_T***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>    Installing my new Netgear MA401 WiFi card on this Toshiba Tecra 8000
> laptop causes all Windows 98 networking applications to crash - they
> barely
> even open, and I have no internet access when this happens. This is the
> sequence:
>
>    1. Laptop PC has internet access working fine with my PCMCIA Ethernet
> card hard-wired to my DSL Modem/Ethernet-Switch/Wifi-Access-Point.
>
>    2. I install the Netgear WiFi card in the other PCMCIA socket, and the
> Netgear drivers (no errors), then restart Win 98 as diredcted.
>
>    3. I open Outlook Express - it immediately crashes with a fatal error.
> I
> open Internet Explorer and try to reach any web page, even my router's
> config page - it immediately crashes and wants to send the 'problem
> report'
> to Microsoft.
>
>    While these programs are crashing, the ethernet connection is still
> present and hard-wired to my router, and the WiFi card is not yet
> configured
> to access the same router (i haven't set the SSID yet, so there's no
> network
> connection on that interface). I can recover only by restoring a
> previously
> copied registry. Netgear does not have any solution. Any ideas?
>
> thanks,
> js.
>
>
Author
27 Feb 2005 2:33 AM
DLink Guru
you should setup your router before installing your new wired card. after
the router is setup disconnect your wired connection and install the
wireless adapter. Use the client software and everything should work....

Robert...

"Joey_" <x15mnijREMOVE_T***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>    Installing my new Netgear MA401 WiFi card on this Toshiba Tecra 8000
> laptop causes all Windows 98 networking applications to crash - they
> barely
> even open, and I have no internet access when this happens. This is the
> sequence:
>
>    1. Laptop PC has internet access working fine with my PCMCIA Ethernet
> card hard-wired to my DSL Modem/Ethernet-Switch/Wifi-Access-Point.
>
>    2. I install the Netgear WiFi card in the other PCMCIA socket, and the
> Netgear drivers (no errors), then restart Win 98 as diredcted.
>
>    3. I open Outlook Express - it immediately crashes with a fatal error.
> I
> open Internet Explorer and try to reach any web page, even my router's
> config page - it immediately crashes and wants to send the 'problem
> report'
> to Microsoft.
>
>    While these programs are crashing, the ethernet connection is still
> present and hard-wired to my router, and the WiFi card is not yet
> configured
> to access the same router (i haven't set the SSID yet, so there's no
> network
> connection on that interface). I can recover only by restoring a
> previously
> copied registry. Netgear does not have any solution. Any ideas?
>
> thanks,
> js.
>
>
Author
27 Feb 2005 3:26 AM
Joey_
Thanks - it sounds like your recommendation is to never have both the Wired
and the Wireless NIC installed at the same time. Have you seen problems with
this before, and do you know why it causes a problem in Win 98?

    did you mean the following? :

> you should setup your router before installing your new wired(sic: WIFI?)
card. after
> the router is set up, disconnect your wired connection and install the
> wireless adapter. Use the [WIFI CARD] client software [TO CONFIG THE WIFI
CARD TO MATCH THE ROUTER CONFIG] and everything should work....

thanks,
js.

"DLink Guru" <rjacobs0spamfree@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> you should setup your router before installing your new wired card. after
> the router is setup disconnect your wired connection and install the
> wireless adapter. Use the client software and everything should work....
>
> Robert...
>
> "Joey_" <x15mnijREMOVE_T***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:iy9Ud.33431$ya6.23896@trndny01...
> > Hi,
> >    Installing my new Netgear MA401 WiFi card on this Toshiba Tecra 8000
> > laptop causes all Windows 98 networking applications to crash - they
> > barely
> > even open, and I have no internet access when this happens. This is the
> > sequence:
> >
> >    1. Laptop PC has internet access working fine with my PCMCIA Ethernet
> > card hard-wired to my DSL Modem/Ethernet-Switch/Wifi-Access-Point.
> >
> >    2. I install the Netgear WiFi card in the other PCMCIA socket, and
the
> > Netgear drivers (no errors), then restart Win 98 as diredcted.
> >
> >    3. I open Outlook Express - it immediately crashes with a fatal
error.
> > I
> > open Internet Explorer and try to reach any web page, even my router's
> > config page - it immediately crashes and wants to send the 'problem
> > report'
> > to Microsoft.
> >
> >    While these programs are crashing, the ethernet connection is still
> > present and hard-wired to my router, and the WiFi card is not yet
> > configured
> > to access the same router (i haven't set the SSID yet, so there's no
> > network
> > connection on that interface). I can recover only by restoring a
> > previously
> > copied registry. Netgear does not have any solution. Any ideas?
> >
> > thanks,
> > js.
> >
> >
>
>
Author
27 Feb 2005 3:25 AM
Inon
I couldn't install PCMCIA WiFi card on Toshiba Satellite Pro with Window98.
Is that the problem on Bias?


"Joey_" <x15mnijREMOVE_T***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>     Installing my new Netgear MA401 WiFi card on this Toshiba Tecra 8000
> laptop causes all Windows 98 networking applications to crash - they
barely
> even open, and I have no internet access when this happens. This is the
> sequence:
>
>     1. Laptop PC has internet access working fine with my PCMCIA Ethernet
> card hard-wired to my DSL Modem/Ethernet-Switch/Wifi-Access-Point.
>
>     2. I install the Netgear WiFi card in the other PCMCIA socket, and the
> Netgear drivers (no errors), then restart Win 98 as diredcted.
>
>     3. I open Outlook Express - it immediately crashes with a fatal error.
I
> open Internet Explorer and try to reach any web page, even my router's
> config page - it immediately crashes and wants to send the 'problem
report'
> to Microsoft.
>
>     While these programs are crashing, the ethernet connection is still
> present and hard-wired to my router, and the WiFi card is not yet
configured
> to access the same router (i haven't set the SSID yet, so there's no
network
> connection on that interface). I can recover only by restoring a
previously
> copied registry. Netgear does not have any solution. Any ideas?
>
> thanks,
> js.
>
>
Author
27 Feb 2005 3:28 AM
Joey_
thanks for this good feedback. I have an older, Toshiba Tecra 8000 with two
Type II card slots.

    What do you mean by "Bias"?

regards,
js.


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"Inon" <i***@noon.com> wrote in message
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> I couldn't install PCMCIA WiFi card on Toshiba Satellite Pro with
Window98.
> Is that the problem on Bias?
>
>
> "Joey_" <x15mnijREMOVE_T***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:iy9Ud.33431$ya6.23896@trndny01...
> > Hi,
> >     Installing my new Netgear MA401 WiFi card on this Toshiba Tecra 8000
> > laptop causes all Windows 98 networking applications to crash - they
> barely
> > even open, and I have no internet access when this happens. This is the
> > sequence:
> >
> >     1. Laptop PC has internet access working fine with my PCMCIA
Ethernet
> > card hard-wired to my DSL Modem/Ethernet-Switch/Wifi-Access-Point.
> >
> >     2. I install the Netgear WiFi card in the other PCMCIA socket, and
the
> > Netgear drivers (no errors), then restart Win 98 as diredcted.
> >
> >     3. I open Outlook Express - it immediately crashes with a fatal
error.
> I
> > open Internet Explorer and try to reach any web page, even my router's
> > config page - it immediately crashes and wants to send the 'problem
> report'
> > to Microsoft.
> >
> >     While these programs are crashing, the ethernet connection is still
> > present and hard-wired to my router, and the WiFi card is not yet
> configured
> > to access the same router (i haven't set the SSID yet, so there's no
> network
> > connection on that interface). I can recover only by restoring a
> previously
> > copied registry. Netgear does not have any solution. Any ideas?
> >
> > thanks,
> > js.
> >
> >
>
>
Author
27 Feb 2005 4:09 AM
Inon
It is miss typing. It should be Bios.

"Joey_" <x15mnijREMOVE_T***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> thanks for this good feedback. I have an older, Toshiba Tecra 8000 with
two
> Type II card slots.
>
>     What do you mean by "Bias"?
>
> regards,
> js.
>
>
> "Inon" <i***@noon.com> wrote in message
> news:N4bUd.36915$by5.33848@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
> > I couldn't install PCMCIA WiFi card on Toshiba Satellite Pro with
> Window98.
> > Is that the problem on Bias?
> >
> >
> > "Joey_" <x15mnijREMOVE_T***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:iy9Ud.33431$ya6.23896@trndny01...
> > > Hi,
> > >     Installing my new Netgear MA401 WiFi card on this Toshiba Tecra
8000
> > > laptop causes all Windows 98 networking applications to crash - they
> > barely
> > > even open, and I have no internet access when this happens. This is
the
> > > sequence:
> > >
> > >     1. Laptop PC has internet access working fine with my PCMCIA
> Ethernet
> > > card hard-wired to my DSL Modem/Ethernet-Switch/Wifi-Access-Point.
> > >
> > >     2. I install the Netgear WiFi card in the other PCMCIA socket, and
> the
> > > Netgear drivers (no errors), then restart Win 98 as diredcted.
> > >
> > >     3. I open Outlook Express - it immediately crashes with a fatal
> error.
> > I
> > > open Internet Explorer and try to reach any web page, even my router's
> > > config page - it immediately crashes and wants to send the 'problem
> > report'
> > > to Microsoft.
> > >
> > >     While these programs are crashing, the ethernet connection is
still
> > > present and hard-wired to my router, and the WiFi card is not yet
> > configured
> > > to access the same router (i haven't set the SSID yet, so there's no
> > network
> > > connection on that interface). I can recover only by restoring a
> > previously
> > > copied registry. Netgear does not have any solution. Any ideas?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > js.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Author
28 Feb 2005 6:17 AM
Joey_
I'm not sure if your laptop BIOS is the problem - I think some WiFi cards
simply don't work with Win 98.

js.

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"Inon" <i***@noon.com> wrote in message
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> It is miss typing. It should be Bios.
>
> "Joey_" <x15mnijREMOVE_T***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:z7bUd.44045$t46.19491@trndny04...
> > thanks for this good feedback. I have an older, Toshiba Tecra 8000 with
> two
> > Type II card slots.
> >
> >     What do you mean by "Bias"?
> >
> > regards,
> > js.
> >
> >
> > "Inon" <i***@noon.com> wrote in message
> > news:N4bUd.36915$by5.33848@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
> > > I couldn't install PCMCIA WiFi card on Toshiba Satellite Pro with
> > Window98.
> > > Is that the problem on Bias?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Joey_" <x15mnijREMOVE_T***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:iy9Ud.33431$ya6.23896@trndny01...
> > > > Hi,
> > > >     Installing my new Netgear MA401 WiFi card on this Toshiba Tecra
> 8000
> > > > laptop causes all Windows 98 networking applications to crash - they
> > > barely
> > > > even open, and I have no internet access when this happens. This is
> the
> > > > sequence:
> > > >
> > > >     1. Laptop PC has internet access working fine with my PCMCIA
> > Ethernet
> > > > card hard-wired to my DSL Modem/Ethernet-Switch/Wifi-Access-Point.
> > > >
> > > >     2. I install the Netgear WiFi card in the other PCMCIA socket,
and
> > the
> > > > Netgear drivers (no errors), then restart Win 98 as diredcted.
> > > >
> > > >     3. I open Outlook Express - it immediately crashes with a fatal
> > error.
> > > I
> > > > open Internet Explorer and try to reach any web page, even my
router's
> > > > config page - it immediately crashes and wants to send the 'problem
> > > report'
> > > > to Microsoft.
> > > >
> > > >     While these programs are crashing, the ethernet connection is
> still
> > > > present and hard-wired to my router, and the WiFi card is not yet
> > > configured
> > > > to access the same router (i haven't set the SSID yet, so there's no
> > > network
> > > > connection on that interface). I can recover only by restoring a
> > > previously
> > > > copied registry. Netgear does not have any solution. Any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > js.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Author
1 Mar 2005 1:14 AM
Martin²
Joey:
>I'm not sure if your laptop BIOS is the problem - I think some WiFi cards
>simply don't work with Win 98.

More accurately some wifi kit *drivers* require Win98 SE or better.
Regards,
Martin
Author
2 Mar 2005 11:35 AM
The Trucker