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HDTV receivers - can you record stuff when you're not home?

Author
11 Dec 2006 7:41 PM
fred_h_haddad
Is a HDTV receiver

(a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?

(b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels (tnt, scifi,
back to tnt) at preset times, even while no one's home?

thanks!
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Author
11 Dec 2006 7:46 PM
Default User
fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:

> Is a HDTV receiver
>
> (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
>
> (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels (tnt, scifi,
> back to tnt) at preset times, even while no one's home?

Kind of a false dilemma. Many cable boxes can be set to switch at
preset times.



Brian

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Author
11 Dec 2006 7:55 PM
fred_h_haddad
Default User wrote:
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> fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Is a HDTV receiver
> >
> > (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
> >
> > (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels (tnt, scifi,
> > back to tnt) at preset times, even while no one's home?
>
> Kind of a false dilemma. Many cable boxes can be set to switch at
> preset times.\





Oh I was thinking of the OLD cable boxes like I've got. Only changes
manually. I can record TNT or Scifi during the day but not both, since
I'm not home to change the channel.

I thought HDTV receivers might work the same?
Author
11 Dec 2006 8:01 PM
Default User
fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:

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>
> Default User wrote:
> > fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > Is a HDTV receiver
> > >
> > > (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
> > >
> > > (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels (tnt,
> > > scifi, back to tnt) at preset times, even while no one's home?
> >
> > Kind of a false dilemma. Many cable boxes can be set to switch at
> > preset times.\
>
>
>
>
>
> Oh I was thinking of the OLD cable boxes like I've got. Only changes
> manually. I can record TNT or Scifi during the day but not both, since
> I'm not home to change the channel.
>
> I thought HDTV receivers might work the same?

Difficult to say for sure, but I'd suspect that the HD boxes from cable
or satellite would be fairly new tech. My digital cable box works with
the online guide information to set reminders or to switch channels at
a designated time. You can also hard code a time/channel switch.




Brian

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Author
11 Dec 2006 8:18 PM
fred_h_haddad
Default User wrote:
> fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > Oh I was thinking of the OLD cable boxes like I've got. Only changes
> > manually. I can record TNT or Scifi during the day but not both, since
> > I'm not home to change the channel.
>
> Difficult to say for sure, but I'd suspect that the HD boxes from cable
> or satellite would be fairly new tech. My digital cable box works with
> the online guide information


I was looking at the over-the-air antenna receivers which would not
have a guide (no cable). If they included auto-channel-switching they'd
be manually programmed.  Like
ON  10am
OFF 1pm
CHN tnt

You're probably right; it's probably automated like a vcr---- not
manual like my ancient cable box.
Author
11 Dec 2006 9:22 PM
~consul
fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:
> Default User wrote:
>> Kind of a false dilemma. Many cable boxes can be set to switch at
>> preset times.\
> Oh I was thinking of the OLD cable boxes like I've got. Only changes
> manually. I can record TNT or Scifi during the day but not both, since
> I'm not home to change the channel.
> I thought HDTV receivers might work the same?

My girlfriend has DISH, in Athens, GA. For hers, I had to manually change the
channel to whatever I was going to tape.
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end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
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Author
11 Dec 2006 9:31 PM
Default User
~consul wrote:

> fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Default User wrote:
> >> Kind of a false dilemma. Many cable boxes can be set to switch at
> >> preset times.\
> > Oh I was thinking of the OLD cable boxes like I've got. Only changes
> > manually. I can record TNT or Scifi during the day but not both,
> > since I'm not home to change the channel.
> > I thought HDTV receivers might work the same?
>
> My girlfriend has DISH, in Athens, GA. For hers, I had to manually
> change the channel to whatever I was going to tape.

My digital cable box started out that way. Then they added the
capability to set it to switch at a specified time (which is kind of
PITA to set). Their most recent change was a new online guide with the
ability to select a program and tell the box to switch to that show
when it comes on. It's still not ideal, as the guide only goes a day or
so ahead. You have to use the other system for recurring stuff or
farther ahead.




Brian

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Author
11 Dec 2006 9:50 PM
~consul
Default User wrote:
> ~consul wrote:
>> My girlfriend has DISH, in Athens, GA. For hers, I had to manually
>> change the channel to whatever I was going to tape.
> My digital cable box started out that way. Then they added the
> capability to set it to switch at a specified time (which is kind of
> PITA to set). Their most recent change was a new online guide with the
> ability to select a program and tell the box to switch to that show
> when it comes on. It's still not ideal, as the guide only goes a day or
> so ahead. You have to use the other system for recurring stuff or
> farther ahead.

Hers is even more sketchy, as sometimes, it only shows 9 or 12 hours ahead.
--
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end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
  --till next time, Jameson Stalanthas Yu -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
Author
12 Dec 2006 1:10 PM
fred_h_haddad
~consul wrote:
> Default User wrote:
> > ~consul wrote:
> >> My girlfriend has DISH, in Athens, GA. For hers, I had to manually
> >> change the channel to whatever I was going to tape.
>
> > My digital cable box started out that way. Then they added the
> > capability to set it to switch at a specified time (
>
> Hers is even more sketchy, as sometimes, it only shows 9 or 12 hours ahead.



Sounds like the answer to the question is 'depends'. They ought to
build the tuner into the recorder like a VCR. Then the recorder can
self-tune to whatever channel it needs to capture.
Author
12 Dec 2006 8:08 PM
Bill Steele
In article <1165866926.588936.245***@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:

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> > > Is a HDTV receiver
> > >
> > > (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
> > >
> > > (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels (tnt, scifi,
> > > back to tnt) at preset times, even while no one's home?
> >
> > Kind of a false dilemma. Many cable boxes can be set to switch at
> > preset times.\
>
>
>
>
>
> Oh I was thinking of the OLD cable boxes like I've got. Only changes
> manually. I can record TNT or Scifi during the day but not both, since
> I'm not home to change the channel.
>
> I thought HDTV receivers might work the same?

Most VCRs these days come with a little infrared transmitter.  You hang
that in front of the cable box and it mimics the remote to change
channels. You can also find programmable remotes.
Author
12 Dec 2006 8:48 PM
fred_h_haddad
Bill Steele wrote:
> >
> > Oh I was thinking of the OLD cable boxes like I've got. Only changes
> > manually. I can record TNT or Scifi during the day but not both, since
> > I'm not home to change the channel.
> > I thought HDTV receivers might work the same?
>
> Most VCRs these days come with a little infrared transmitter.  You hang
> that in front of the cable box and it mimics the remote to change
> channels. You can also find programmable remotes.


Good call. That would probably work effectively enough to change my DTV
tuner and feed the correct channels into my old analog VCR even while
I'm not home.

Now I just gotta remember where I put that doodad.  ;)
Author
13 Dec 2006 5:04 AM
THO
In article <ws21-F9F7A0.15081512122***@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>,
Bill Steele <w***@cornell.edu> wrote:

> In article <1165866926.588936.245***@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
>  fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
> Most VCRs these days come with a little infrared transmitter.  You hang
> that in front of the cable box and it mimics the remote to change
> channels. You can also find programmable remotes.

I never heard of such a transmitter before. Any idea what brands supply
that?
Author
13 Dec 2006 6:20 AM
Anim8rFSK
In article <tho-90AFAB.00045813122***@news.giganews.com>,
THO <t**@tho.tho.23.invalid> wrote:

> In article <ws21-F9F7A0.15081512122***@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>,
>  Bill Steele <w***@cornell.edu> wrote:
>
> > In article <1165866926.588936.245***@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
> >  fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > Most VCRs these days come with a little infrared transmitter.  You hang
> > that in front of the cable box and it mimics the remote to change
> > channels. You can also find programmable remotes.
>
> I never heard of such a transmitter before. Any idea what brands supply
> that?

My Sonys have 'em

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Author
13 Dec 2006 8:27 PM
Bill Steele
In article <ANIM8Rfsk-808F48.23205612122***@news.west.cox.net>,
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R***@cox.net> wrote:

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> In article <tho-90AFAB.00045813122***@news.giganews.com>,
>  THO <t**@tho.tho.23.invalid> wrote:
>
> > In article <ws21-F9F7A0.15081512122***@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>,
> >  Bill Steele <w***@cornell.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <1165866926.588936.245***@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
> > >  fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Most VCRs these days come with a little infrared transmitter.  You hang
> > > that in front of the cable box and it mimics the remote to change
> > > channels. You can also find programmable remotes.
> >
> > I never heard of such a transmitter before. Any idea what brands supply
> > that?
>
> My Sonys have 'em

As do my JVC and my Phillips DVD recorder.
Author
14 Dec 2006 3:19 AM
Rob Jensen
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 00:04:58 -0500, THO <t**@tho.tho.23.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <ws21-F9F7A0.15081512122***@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>,
> Bill Steele <w***@cornell.edu> wrote:
>
>> In article <1165866926.588936.245***@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
>>  fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Most VCRs these days come with a little infrared transmitter.  You hang
>> that in front of the cable box and it mimics the remote to change
>> channels. You can also find programmable remotes.
>
>I never heard of such a transmitter before. Any idea what brands supply
>that?

I don't know about which models of VCRs that have that, but my HP
m377n Media Center's TV Tuner has the infrared intercept doohickey to
change the station on my DISH sat receiver.

  -- Rob
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Author
11 Dec 2006 10:29 PM
David Johnston
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On 11 Dec 2006 19:46:49 GMT, "Default User" <defaultuse***@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Is a HDTV receiver
>>
>> (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
>>
>> (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels (tnt, scifi,
>> back to tnt) at preset times, even while no one's home?
>
>Kind of a false dilemma. Many cable boxes can be set to switch at
>preset times.
>

Not the one I was renting from my cable company up to a couple of
years ago.
Author
11 Dec 2006 10:47 PM
Default User
David Johnston wrote:

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> On 11 Dec 2006 19:46:49 GMT, "Default User" <defaultuse***@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> >> Is a HDTV receiver
> >>
> >> (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
> >>
> >> (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels (tnt,
> scifi, >> back to tnt) at preset times, even while no one's home?
> >
> > Kind of a false dilemma. Many cable boxes can be set to switch at
> > preset times.
> >
>
> Not the one I was renting from my cable company up to a couple of
> years ago. 

Most likely the hardware had the capability, not the software. I got
the capability without a hardware change, obviously some sort of
software download to the box.




Brian

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Author
26 Dec 2006 4:21 AM
Deke
<fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Is a HDTV receiver
>
> (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
>
> (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels (tnt, scifi,
> back to tnt) at preset times, even while no one's home?
>
> thanks!
> :)
>
You still have cable?  How quaint.
Go to www.dishnetwork.com
and look at the DVR 942.  HD OTA reciever, and HD DVR from satellite.  Will
not record OTA HD.
Dish also offers more HD channels than any other HD programmer.  HTH.
Author
29 Dec 2006 10:59 AM
fred_h_haddad
Deke wrote:
> <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> > Is a HDTV receiver
> > (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
> > (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels
> > thanks!
> > :)
> >
> You still have cable?  How quaint.
> Go to www.dishnetwork.com




You PAY for trash you could get for free (antenna)?
How foolish.  Go to www.antennaweb.org
I get around 30 channels (including the sub-channels) totally free & no
$600 a year bill.
Author
29 Dec 2006 12:46 PM
Ty Ford
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 05:59:11 -0500, fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote
(in article <1167389951.631563.64***@k21g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):

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> Deke wrote:
>> <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>> Is a HDTV receiver
>>> (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
>>> (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels
>>> thanks!
>>>>>
>>>
>> You still have cable?  How quaint.
>> Go to www.dishnetwork.com
>
>
>
>
> You PAY for trash you could get for free (antenna)?
> How foolish.  Go to www.antennaweb.org
> I get around 30 channels (including the sub-channels) totally free & no
> $600 a year bill.
>

I use rabbit ears on the Sony 10801i HDTV I bought just before the Utah
WInter Olympics about 5 years ago. People keep saying, "Huh? You can get HDTV
on rabbit ears? How is that possible?"

Apparently, there is a great dearth of information about DTV and HDTV.

Regards,

Ty Ford


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stuff are at www.tyford.com
Author
1 Jan 2007 12:16 PM
fred_h_haddad
Ty Ford wrote:
>
> >
>
> I use rabbit ears on the Sony 10801i HDTV I bought just before the Utah
> WInter Olympics about 5 years ago. People keep saying, "Huh? You can get HDTV
> on rabbit ears? How is that possible?"
> Apparently, there is a great dearth of information about DTV and HDTV.





Not surprising.  Cable companies don't want us to abandon  &
switch-over to HD antennas.  So they keep it hush-hush.
Author
1 Jan 2007 11:59 PM
nobody
In <1167653795.220723.142***@42g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>, on 01/01/07
   at 04:16 AM, fred_h_had***@yahoo.com said:


>Not surprising.  Cable companies don't want us to abandon  & switch-over
>to HD antennas.  So they keep it hush-hush.

If one has cable, can one also attach rabbit ears (for times when the
cable goes out, for example?)  If so, how would this be done?

Is it only broadcast networks HD signals that can be picked up by rabbit
ears, or all HD signals?



Alan

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Author
2 Jan 2007 3:12 PM
Ty Ford
On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 18:59:29 -0500, nob***@junk.min.net wrote
(in article <4599a0ef$3$nynaurff$mr2***@newsgroups.comcast.net>):

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> In <1167653795.220723.142***@42g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>, on 01/01/07
>    at 04:16 AM, fred_h_had***@yahoo.com said:
>
>
>> Not surprising.  Cable companies don't want us to abandon  & switch-over
>> to HD antennas.  So they keep it hush-hush.
>
> If one has cable, can one also attach rabbit ears (for times when the
> cable goes out, for example?)  If so, how would this be done?
>
> Is it only broadcast networks HD signals that can be picked up by rabbit
> ears, or all HD signals?
>
>
>
> Alan

Network vs All? If the local station is broadcasting in D or HD, I can get it
with Radio Shack Rabbit ear now on my HD receiver. Coaxed into the set. I'm
no more than 10 miles from most of the towers in town. I do have to be picky
about placing the rabbit ears, but over time found a spot that pretty much
gets everything unless the wind is blowing over 15 knots near the towers and
then I get some muting.

Of course I don't get cable programming over the air unless that station is
transmitting it. For example, there's an MTV-type music video channel on
cable that one of the local TV stations is also broadcasting over the air. I
get that.

Regards,

Ty Ford



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Author
3 Jan 2007 8:29 PM
~consul
Ty Ford wrote:
> Of course I don't get cable programming over the air unless that station is
> transmitting it. For example, there's an MTV-type music video channel on
> cable that one of the local TV stations is also broadcasting over the air. I
> get that.

For me, it's called The Tube Music Network. I love it. In Los Angeles, it's 5.5,
KTLADT5. Videos all the time, and most of the time, it's concert video, not just
the fabricated artsy fartsy videos. Really nice to get the old concert showings.

--
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end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
  --till next time, Jameson Stalanthas Yu -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
Author
4 Jan 2007 3:27 AM
Ty Ford
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:29:53 -0500, consul wrote
(in article <enh3om$t1***@gist.usc.edu>):

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> Ty Ford wrote:
>> Of course I don't get cable programming over the air unless that station is
>> transmitting it. For example, there's an MTV-type music video channel on
>> cable that one of the local TV stations is also broadcasting over the air.
>> I
>> get that.
>
> For me, it's called The Tube Music Network. I love it. In Los Angeles, it's
> 5.5,
> KTLADT5. Videos all the time, and most of the time, it's concert video, not
> just
> the fabricated artsy fartsy videos. Really nice to get the old concert
> showings.
>
>

That's it. We just lost it here in Baltimore, with a 24 Hr scrolling text
explaining that due to unforeseen circumstances, The Tube would no longer be
OTA.

Sad. it was a nice alternative. Comcast still carries it on cable, but I'm
not that desperate for TV yet.

Regards,

Ty Ford


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stuff are at www.tyford.com
Author
4 Jan 2007 5:20 PM
~consul
Ty Ford wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:29:53 -0500, consul wrote
>> For me, it's called The Tube Music Network. I love it. In Los Angeles, it's
>> 5.5, KTLADT5. Videos all the time, and most of the time, it's concert video, not
>> just the fabricated artsy fartsy videos. Really nice to get the old concert
>> showings.
> That's it. We just lost it here in Baltimore, with a 24 Hr scrolling text
> explaining that due to unforeseen circumstances, The Tube would no longer be
> OTA.
> Sad. it was a nice alternative. Comcast still carries it on cable, but I'm
> not that desperate for TV yet.

You might play around trying to search for it. It used to be on channel 5.2 when
I first came across it, then it went to 5.5, without any notice or fanfare. Or I
might have missed the notice and fanfare. I found it again just by typing in
*.2, *.3, etc.
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end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
  --till next time, Jameson Stalanthas Yu -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
Author
3 Jan 2007 8:25 PM
~consul
nob***@junk.min.net wrote:
>    at 04:16 AM, fred_h_had***@yahoo.com said:
>> Not surprising.  Cable companies don't want us to abandon  & switch-over
>> to HD antennas.  So they keep it hush-hush.
> If one has cable, can one also attach rabbit ears (for times when the
> cable goes out, for example?)  If so, how would this be done?

Check the back of your TV, if you have coax input, the round nub with a tiny
hole in it [I am not trying to be vulgar :) ], then you can plug in the rabbit
ears cable. You may need a $2 adapter to fit your tv.

> Is it only broadcast networks HD signals that can be picked up by rabbit
> ears, or all HD signals?

Only broadcast OTA HD signals.

I miss Discovery, and Sci-Fi, but that's about it, from the cable/sat offerings.
All the other stuff, with the 6 PBS HD channels, and all the standard OTA I'm
pretty happy.
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the
end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
  --till next time, Jameson Stalanthas Yu -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
Author
1 Jan 2007 3:30 AM
Deke
<fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Deke wrote:
> > <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > > Is a HDTV receiver
> > > (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
> > > (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels
> > > thanks!
> > > :)
> > >
> > You still have cable?  How quaint.
> > Go to www.dishnetwork.com
>
>
>
>
> You PAY for trash you could get for free (antenna)?
> How foolish.  Go to www.antennaweb.org
> I get around 30 channels (including the sub-channels) totally free & no
> $600 a year bill.
>
NEWS FLASH!
Not everyone lives in a large metropolitan area, moron.
NEWS FLASH!
What OTA stations broadcast National Geographic, Rave, Soundstage, Discovery
(just to name a few)?  Or does reruns of Andy Griffith turn you on just
because its in a digital format?
The original poster was asking about HD, and how to record HD.
Author
1 Jan 2007 12:14 PM
fred_h_haddad
Deke wrote:
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> > > <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > > > Is a HDTV receiver
> > > > (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
> > > > (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels
> > > > thanks!
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > You still have cable?  How quaint.
> > > Go to www.dishnetwork.com
>
>
> NEWFLASH!
> The original poster was asking about HD, and how to record HD.



Newsflash.  I'm the original poster & you insulted ne.  Lay off.
Author
1 Jan 2007 6:44 PM
Deke
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> Deke wrote:
> > > > <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >
> > > > > Is a HDTV receiver
> > > > > (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
> > > > > (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels
> > > > > thanks!
> > > > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > You still have cable?  How quaint.
> > > > Go to www.dishnetwork.com
> >
> >
> > NEWFLASH!
> > The original poster was asking about HD, and how to record HD.
>
>
>
> Newsflash.  I'm the original poster & you insulted ne.  Lay off.
>
And if you reread you'll find I wasnt talking to you.
Author
1 Jan 2007 7:43 PM
Default User
Deke wrote:

>
> <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> > Newsflash.  I'm the original poster & you insulted ne.  Lay off.
> >
> And if you reread you'll find I wasnt talking to you.

"Fred" there is a troll, Troy Heagy. He posts under various IDs on RATV
and other groups. Best to ignore him, killfile if you can. Anim8rFSK
has a list of his various IDs in the .sigs of his posts.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
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Author
3 Jan 2007 11:50 PM
fred_h_haddad
Deke wrote:
Show quoteHide quote
> <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1167653654.883870.102640@n51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Deke wrote:
> > > > > <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > >
> > > > > > Is a HDTV receiver
> > > > > > (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
> > > > > > (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels
> > > > > > thanks!
> > > > > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > You still have cable?  How quaint.
> > > > > Go to www.dishnetwork.com
> > >
> > >
> > > NEWFLASH!
> > > The original poster was asking about HD, and how to record HD.
> >
> >
> >
> > Newsflash.  I'm the original poster & you insulted ne.  Lay off.
> >
> And if you reread you'll find I wasnt talking to you.




Yes, you were talking to me.  Read your old messages.
Author
5 Jan 2007 2:10 PM
Deke
<fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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news:1167868242.552239.123940@31g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>
> Deke wrote:
> > <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1167653654.883870.102640@n51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > Deke wrote:
> > > > > > <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Is a HDTV receiver
> > > > > > > (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the
channels?
> > > > > > > (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels
> > > > > > > thanks!
> > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > You still have cable?  How quaint.
> > > > > > Go to www.dishnetwork.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > NEWFLASH!
> > > > The original poster was asking about HD, and how to record HD.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Newsflash.  I'm the original poster & you insulted ne.  Lay off.
> > >
> > And if you reread you'll find I wasnt talking to you.
>
>
>
>
> Yes, you were talking to me.  Read your old messages.
>
Fred, youre an idiot.
(PLONK)
Author
10 Jan 2007 2:39 PM
fred_h_haddad
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> > > > > > > <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is a HDTV receiver
> > > > > > > > (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change ?
> > > > > > > > (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself ?


> > > > Deke wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You still have cable?  How quaint.
> > > > >  Go to www.dishnetwork.com
> > > > > NEWFLASH!
> > > > > The original poster was asking about HD, and how to record HD.





> > > <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > Newsflash.  I'm the original poster & you insulted me.  Lay off.




> > Deke wrote:
> > > And if you reread you'll find I wasnt talking to you.





> <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > Yes, you were talking to me.  Read your old messages.



Deke wrote:
> Fred, youre an idiot.
> (PLONK)




I don't know what "plonk" means, and I may be an "idiot", but even my
feeble mind recognizes a rude asshole when I see one.

Deke the Asshole.
Author
24 Jan 2007 6:15 AM
Seymour Dupa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plonk

<fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> I don't know what "plonk" means, and I may be an "idiot", but even my
> feeble mind recognizes a rude asshole when I see one.
>
> Deke the Asshole.
>
Author
2 Jan 2007 12:13 AM
Ty Ford
On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 07:14:15 -0500, fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote
(in article <1167653654.883870.102***@n51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>):

Show quoteHide quote
>
> Deke wrote:
>>>> <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>> Is a HDTV receiver
>>>>> (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
>>>>> (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels
>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> You still have cable?  How quaint.
>>>> Go to www.dishnetwork.com
>>
>>
>> NEWFLASH!
>> The original poster was asking about HD, and how to record HD.
>
>
>
> Newsflash.  I'm the original poster & you insulted ne.  Lay off.
>

Fred,

I'm guessing a timer on a high end machine or computer would probably work.
Do you have the sort of money that would let you buy a machine capable of
recording such a stream?

Are you talking about cable or over the air received programming?

Regards,

Ty Ford


-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com
Author
2 Jan 2007 1:21 AM
Anim8rFSK
In article <Jo-dndhFgqpaPgTYnZ2dnUVZ_snin***@comcast.com>,
Ty Ford <tyreef***@comcast.net> wrote:

Show quoteHide quote
> On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 07:14:15 -0500, fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote
> (in article <1167653654.883870.102***@n51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>):
>
> >
> > Deke wrote:
> >>>> <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>>>> Is a HDTV receiver
> >>>>> (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
> >>>>> (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels
> >>>>> thanks!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> You still have cable?  How quaint.
> >>>> Go to www.dishnetwork.com
> >>
> >>
> >> NEWFLASH!
> >> The original poster was asking about HD, and how to record HD.
> >
> >
> >
> > Newsflash.  I'm the original poster & you insulted ne.  Lay off.
> >
>
> Fred,
>
> I'm guessing a timer on a high end machine or computer would probably work.
> Do you have the sort of money that would let you buy a machine capable of
> recording such a stream?
>
> Are you talking about cable or over the air received programming?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ty Ford
>
>
> -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
> stuff are at www.tyford.com

His name is not Fred.  It's Troy Heagy.  He deliberately asks questions
with mistakes in the basic premise as some kind of weird troll game.

--
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Author
2 Jan 2007 12:10 AM
Ty Ford
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 22:30:33 -0500, Deke wrote
(in article <d044c$45987fa0$943f4036$2***@STARBAND.NET>):

Show quoteHide quote
>
> <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1167389951.631563.64430@k21g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Deke wrote:
>>> <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>>>> Is a HDTV receiver
>>>> (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
>>>> (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels
>>>> thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>> You still have cable?  How quaint.
>>> Go to www.dishnetwork.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You PAY for trash you could get for free (antenna)?
>> How foolish.  Go to www.antennaweb.org
>> I get around 30 channels (including the sub-channels) totally free & no
>> $600 a year bill.
>>
> NEWS FLASH!
> Not everyone lives in a large metropolitan area, moron.
> NEWS FLASH!
> What OTA stations broadcast National Geographic, Rave, Soundstage, Discovery
> (just to name a few)?  Or does reruns of Andy Griffith turn you on just
> because its in a digital format?
> The original poster was asking about HD, and how to record HD.

Deke,

Calling ANYONE a moron is totally uncalled for in any public newsgroup. If
you'd like to post your home address, please do and screw the parole
restrictions, I'll come over so we can discuss it face to face.

Regards,

Ty Ford




-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com
Author
2 Jan 2007 1:20 AM
Anim8rFSK
In article <Jo-dndlFgqp4PwTYnZ2dnUVZ_snin***@comcast.com>,
Ty Ford <tyreef***@comcast.net> wrote:

Show quoteHide quote
> On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 22:30:33 -0500, Deke wrote
> (in article <d044c$45987fa0$943f4036$2***@STARBAND.NET>):
>
> >
> > <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1167389951.631563.64430@k21g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >> Deke wrote:
> >>> <fred_h_had***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >>>> Is a HDTV receiver
> >>>> (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
> >>>> (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels
> >>>> thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>> You still have cable?  How quaint.
> >>> Go to www.dishnetwork.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> You PAY for trash you could get for free (antenna)?
> >> How foolish.  Go to www.antennaweb.org
> >> I get around 30 channels (including the sub-channels) totally free & no
> >> $600 a year bill.
> >>
> > NEWS FLASH!
> > Not everyone lives in a large metropolitan area, moron.
> > NEWS FLASH!
> > What OTA stations broadcast National Geographic, Rave, Soundstage, Discovery
> > (just to name a few)?  Or does reruns of Andy Griffith turn you on just
> > because its in a digital format?
> > The original poster was asking about HD, and how to record HD.
>
> Deke,
>
> Calling ANYONE a moron is totally uncalled for in any public newsgroup.

Sorry, but calling Troy (note that fred_h_haddad is a fake troll name) a
moron is pretty much required, if only to be accurate.  And of course
calling him a moron is being polite.

--
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Author
2 Jan 2007 4:14 PM
seriousfun
fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:
> Is a HDTV receiver
>
> (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
>
> (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels (tnt, scifi,
> back to tnt) at preset times, even while no one's home?
>
> thanks!
> :)

Of course.

I rent an HD DVR from Time Warner Cable in Los Angeles for $15/mo. This
includes HD service for all of the local stations that offer it OTA,
extras like iNHD 1&2, DiscoveryHD, TNT-HD, and pay services like
Showtime and HBO (if you pay for them), and a few HD iN Demand movies
and shows.

It is a Motorola box with two ATSC tuners and a hard drive. You can
record up to two shows at one time and watch a third already-recorded
on the DVR - you can't watch a third live show while you record on both
tuners, but you can watch one show while recording one other (recording
two shows at once has been surprisingly useful). It can store hundreds
of SD shows (I recorded most of yesterday's Twilight Zone marathon on
SciFi) and about 30 hours of HD content. It has a guide which goes two
or three weeks in advance, and allows you to record shows or series of
shows. You can set it to remind you of a show and allows you to choose
to switch channels to watch it.

My place doesn't get good OTA reception, so at least basic cable or
satellite is necessary to get anything other than fuzzy local stations.
TWC is right now, for me, a better deal than DTV or DISH, but they both
provide good service with some sort of DVR available.

www.broadbandreports.com is the best source for info on all of this.
Author
2 Jan 2007 5:57 PM
Anim8rFSK
In article <1167754470.745533.133***@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com>,
Show quoteHide quote
"seriousfun" <dougosbo***@gmail.com> wrote:

> fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Is a HDTV receiver
> >
> > (a) Like a cable box. You have to manually change the channels?
> >
> > (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels (tnt, scifi,
> > back to tnt) at preset times, even while no one's home?
> >
> > thanks!
> > :)
>
> Of course.
>
> I rent an HD DVR from Time Warner Cable in Los Angeles for $15/mo. This
> includes HD service for all of the local stations that offer it OTA,
> extras like iNHD 1&2, DiscoveryHD, TNT-HD, and pay services like
> Showtime and HBO (if you pay for them), and a few HD iN Demand movies
> and shows.
>
> It is a Motorola box with two ATSC tuners and a hard drive. You can
> record up to two shows at one time and watch a third already-recorded
> on the DVR - you can't watch a third live show while you record on both
> tuners, but you can watch one show while recording one other (recording
> two shows at once has been surprisingly useful). It can store hundreds
> of SD shows (I recorded most of yesterday's Twilight Zone marathon on
> SciFi) and about 30 hours of HD content. It has a guide which goes two
> or three weeks in advance, and allows you to record shows or series of
> shows. You can set it to remind you of a show and allows you to choose
> to switch channels to watch it.

You make me jealous.  Our guide only goes for one week (a bit less
actually) and the 'search by' function is only for that day, and we max
out at 50 hours of SD.
>
> My place doesn't get good OTA reception, so at least basic cable or
> satellite is necessary to get anything other than fuzzy local stations.
> TWC is right now, for me, a better deal than DTV or DISH, but they both
> provide good service with some sort of DVR available.

Our 30 year old roof antenna gets WAY better HD reception than what we
get through COX.
>
> www.broadbandreports.com is the best source for info on all of this.

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Author
3 Jan 2007 8:37 PM
~consul
seriousfun wrote:
> I rent an HD DVR from Time Warner Cable in Los Angeles for $15/mo. This
> includes HD service for all of the local stations that offer it OTA,
> extras like iNHD 1&2, DiscoveryHD, TNT-HD, and pay services like
> Showtime and HBO (if you pay for them), and a few HD iN Demand movies
> and shows.
((snipped))
> My place doesn't get good OTA reception, so at least basic cable or
> satellite is necessary to get anything other than fuzzy local stations.
> TWC is right now, for me, a better deal than DTV or DISH, but they both
> provide good service with some sort of DVR available.

Now this seems weird to me. Why are you getting fuzzy anything if you have a OTA
HD reception? It should be a clear signal or not.
--
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end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
  --till next time, Jameson Stalanthas Yu -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
Author
3 Jan 2007 8:43 PM
~consul
~consul wrote:
> seriousfun wrote:
> ((snipped))
>> My place doesn't get good OTA reception, so at least basic cable or
>> satellite is necessary to get anything other than fuzzy local stations.
>> TWC is right now, for me, a better deal than DTV or DISH, but they both
>> provide good service with some sort of DVR available.
> Now this seems weird to me. Why are you getting fuzzy anything if you have a OTA
> HD reception? It should be a clear signal or not.

Never mind, I see you meant fuzzy for sd ota, not hd ota.

--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the
end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
  --till next time, Jameson Stalanthas Yu -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
Author
4 Jan 2007 3:31 AM
Ty Ford
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:37:39 -0500, consul wrote
(in article <enh478$t3***@gist.usc.edu>):

Show quoteHide quote
> seriousfun wrote:
>> I rent an HD DVR from Time Warner Cable in Los Angeles for $15/mo. This
>> includes HD service for all of the local stations that offer it OTA,
>> extras like iNHD 1&2, DiscoveryHD, TNT-HD, and pay services like
>> Showtime and HBO (if you pay for them), and a few HD iN Demand movies
>> and shows.
> ((snipped))
>> My place doesn't get good OTA reception, so at least basic cable or
>> satellite is necessary to get anything other than fuzzy local stations.
>> TWC is right now, for me, a better deal than DTV or DISH, but they both
>> provide good service with some sort of DVR available.
>
> Now this seems weird to me. Why are you getting fuzzy anything if you have a
> OTA
> HD reception? It should be a clear signal or not.
>

Right. You either get a digital OTA broadcast (maybe some minor pixelating)
or it mutes.

I had to drop from a rooftop antenna to Radio Shack rabbit ears because my
old antenna was picking up too much reflected RF and it caused the receiver
to mute. A friendly CE at a local station suggested I knock down the RD to
the set a bit. Rabbit ears did the trick.

Regards,

Ty Ford


-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com
Author
4 Jan 2007 8:31 PM
Anim8rFSK
In article <enh478$t3***@gist.usc.edu>,
~consul <con***@INVALIDdolphins-cove.com> wrote:

Show quoteHide quote
> seriousfun wrote:
> > I rent an HD DVR from Time Warner Cable in Los Angeles for $15/mo. This
> > includes HD service for all of the local stations that offer it OTA,
> > extras like iNHD 1&2, DiscoveryHD, TNT-HD, and pay services like
> > Showtime and HBO (if you pay for them), and a few HD iN Demand movies
> > and shows.
> ((snipped))
> > My place doesn't get good OTA reception, so at least basic cable or
> > satellite is necessary to get anything other than fuzzy local stations.
> > TWC is right now, for me, a better deal than DTV or DISH, but they both
> > provide good service with some sort of DVR available.
>
> Now this seems weird to me. Why are you getting fuzzy anything if you have a
> OTA
> HD reception? It should be a clear signal or not.

Yes.  Our OTA HD is either there or it's not, with an error message
displayed.  ABC cut out last night just as IN CASE OF EMERGENCY began. 
They may have been trying to tell me something.

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Author
3 Jan 2007 1:40 PM
LindaY
fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:

> Is a HDTV receiver

> (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels (tnt, scifi,
> back to tnt) at preset times, even while no one's home?

Ours (Dish Network) is like a VCR. You find the upcoming show on the
channel guide and set a timer by clicking on the show. It will either
record directly to the VCR (but not the DVD recorder, darn it) or
change the channel when the program you want to see is about to start.
It also will pop up a reminder without changing channels, but I've
never used that.

Linda
Author
3 Jan 2007 3:29 PM
Anim8rFSK
In article <1167831630.212387.107***@42g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>,
Show quoteHide quote
"LindaY" <jlyo***@mindspring.com> wrote:

> fred_h_had***@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Is a HDTV receiver
>
> > (b) Like a VCR. Can change itself to different channels (tnt, scifi,
> > back to tnt) at preset times, even while no one's home?
>
> Ours (Dish Network) is like a VCR. You find the upcoming show on the
> channel guide and set a timer by clicking on the show. It will either
> record directly to the VCR (but not the DVD recorder, darn it) or
> change the channel when the program you want to see is about to start.
> It also will pop up a reminder without changing channels, but I've
> never used that.
>
> Linda

Hey, Linda, just FYI, you're being trolled by Troy Heagy, who's come up
with a new name since everybody got wise to the old ones.

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