"Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:k7jpn29sotmbogq0kmbslt9hnp8s44pi1c@4ax.com...
>I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner wants
> $10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street the same one I
> have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it says "call operator" -
> so I called.
> They told me that they will not support this box - I have to buy a box
> from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am living does not
> allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck. Here is the fax I am sending
> to my representative - if you are stuck with cable as me, please to
> the same:
>
> To representative?
>
> I am a Time Warner Cable subscriber.  I want to add cable service for
> a new television that I just purchased.  Time Warner Cable wants me to
> pay $10 per month for another box.  I just bought the same box that
> Time Warner uses for $30.  Time Warner refuses to recognize this box
> even though it is in perfect condition.
> I live in New York City and there is no competition for Time
> Warner.  I live in a building where management does not allow us to
> have a Satelite Dish.  Please pass a law that allows consumers to
> purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
> monopoly on a service.  I plan to start a campaign on the internet
> about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
> the internet.
>
> An Angry Citizen
>
> I sent it to:
>
> Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
> New York City
> 780 Third Ave, Suite 2601
> New York, NY 10017
> Phone: (212) 688-6262
> Fax: (212) 688-7444
>
> Senator Charles E. "Chuck" Schumer
> New York City
> 757 Third Avenue, Suite 17-02
> New York, NY 10017
> Phone: 212-486-4430
> Fax: 212-486-7693
>
> Representative Gary L. Ackerman (D - 05)
> Phone: 202-225-2601     fax: 202-225-1589
> http://www.house.gov/ackerman/pages/contact.html
> District Office:
> 218-14 Northern Boulevard
> Bayside, NY 11361-3580
> Voice: 718-423-2154    FAX: 718-423-5053
>
>
> Representative Anthony Weiner (D - 09)
> Phone: 202-225-6616   fax: 202-226-7253
> Email: wei***@mail.house.gov
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> "Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:k7jpn29sotmbogq0kmbslt9hnp8s44pi1c@4ax.com...
> >I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner wants
> > $10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street the same one I
> > have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it says "call operator" -
> > so I called.
> > They told me that they will not support this box - I have to buy a box
> > from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am living does not
> > allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck. Here is the fax I am sending
> > to my representative - if you are stuck with cable as me, please to
> > the same:
> >
> > To representative?
> >
> > I am a Time Warner Cable subscriber.  I want to add cable service for
> > a new television that I just purchased.  Time Warner Cable wants me to
> > pay $10 per month for another box.  I just bought the same box that
> > Time Warner uses for $30.  Time Warner refuses to recognize this box
> > even though it is in perfect condition.
> > I live in New York City and there is no competition for Time
> > Warner.  I live in a building where management does not allow us to
> > have a Satelite Dish.  Please pass a law that allows consumers to
> > purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
> > monopoly on a service.  I plan to start a campaign on the internet
> > about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
> > the internet.
> >
> > An Angry Citizen
> >
> > I sent it to:
> >
> > Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
> > New York City
> > 780 Third Ave, Suite 2601
> > New York, NY 10017
> > Phone: (212) 688-6262
> > Fax: (212) 688-7444
> >
> > Senator Charles E. "Chuck" Schumer
> > New York City
> > 757 Third Avenue, Suite 17-02
> > New York, NY 10017
> > Phone: 212-486-4430
> > Fax: 212-486-7693
> >
> > Representative Gary L. Ackerman (D - 05)
> > Phone: 202-225-2601     fax: 202-225-1589
> > http://www.house.gov/ackerman/pages/contact.html
> > District Office:
> > 218-14 Northern Boulevard
> > Bayside, NY 11361-3580
> > Voice: 718-423-2154    FAX: 718-423-5053
> >
> >
> > Representative Anthony Weiner (D - 09)
> > Phone: 202-225-6616   fax: 202-226-7253
> > Email: wei***@mail.house.gov
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> I'd think a cable company can choose whether or not to authorize a box. If
> they don't allow outside boxes, then you're forced to pay them for one.
> Plain and simple.
>
> Dave

> "zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> shaped the electrons to say:
> >And I think there should be a law that protect citizens from a monopoly
> >- I cannot choose other service.
>
> They have the right not to authorize some random box on their
> network.  A box that could be hacked in any one of any ways to allow
> access to content, disable copy protection, etc.
>
> And if you only paid $30 for the box - it was hot.  They cost a lot
> more than that new, wholesale.
>
> -MZ
> --
> <URL:mailto:megazoneatmegazone.org> Gweep, Discordian, Author, Engineer, me.
> "A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-852-2171
> <URL:http://www.megazone.org/>  <URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/> Eris

> David Moran wrote:
>
>>"Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:k7jpn29sotmbogq0kmbslt9hnp8s44pi1c@4ax.com...
>>
>>>I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner wants
>>>$10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street the same one I
>>>have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it says "call operator" -
>>>so I called.
>>>They told me that they will not support this box - I have to buy a box
>>>from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am living does not
>>>allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck. Here is the fax I am sending
>>>to my representative - if you are stuck with cable as me, please to
>>>the same:
>>>
>>>To representative?
>>>
>>>I am a Time Warner Cable subscriber.  I want to add cable service for
>>>a new television that I just purchased.  Time Warner Cable wants me to
>>>pay $10 per month for another box.  I just bought the same box that
>>>Time Warner uses for $30.  Time Warner refuses to recognize this box
>>>even though it is in perfect condition.
>>>I live in New York City and there is no competition for Time
>>>Warner.  I live in a building where management does not allow us to
>>>have a Satelite Dish.  Please pass a law that allows consumers to
>>>purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
>>>monopoly on a service.  I plan to start a campaign on the internet
>>>about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
>>>the internet.
>>>
>>>An Angry Citizen
>>>
>>>I sent it to:
>>>
>>>Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
>>>New York City
>>>780 Third Ave, Suite 2601
>>>New York, NY 10017
>>>Phone: (212) 688-6262
>>>Fax: (212) 688-7444
>>>
>>>Senator Charles E. "Chuck" Schumer
>>>New York City
>>>757 Third Avenue, Suite 17-02
>>>New York, NY 10017
>>>Phone: 212-486-4430
>>>Fax: 212-486-7693
>>>
>>>Representative Gary L. Ackerman (D - 05)
>>>Phone: 202-225-2601     fax: 202-225-1589
>>>http://www.house.gov/ackerman/pages/contact.html
>>>District Office:
>>>218-14 Northern Boulevard
>>>Bayside, NY 11361-3580
>>>Voice: 718-423-2154    FAX: 718-423-5053
>>>
>>>
>>>Representative Anthony Weiner (D - 09)
>>>Phone: 202-225-6616   fax: 202-226-7253
>>>Email: wei***@mail.house.gov
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I'd think a cable company can choose whether or not to authorize a box. If
>>they don't allow outside boxes, then you're forced to pay them for one.
>>Plain and simple.
>>
>>Dave
>
>
> And I think there should be a law that protect citizens from a monopoly
> - I cannot choose other service.
>
> Zalek
>

> zalek wrote:
> > David Moran wrote:
> >
> >>"Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:k7jpn29sotmbogq0kmbslt9hnp8s44pi1c@4ax.com...
> >>
> >>>I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner wants
> >>>$10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street the same one I
> >>>have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it says "call operator" -
> >>>so I called.
> >>>They told me that they will not support this box - I have to buy a box
> >>>from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am living does not
> >>>allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck. Here is the fax I am sending
> >>>to my representative - if you are stuck with cable as me, please to
> >>>the same:
> >>>
> >>>To representative?
> >>>
> >>>I am a Time Warner Cable subscriber.  I want to add cable service for
> >>>a new television that I just purchased.  Time Warner Cable wants me to
> >>>pay $10 per month for another box.  I just bought the same box that
> >>>Time Warner uses for $30.  Time Warner refuses to recognize this box
> >>>even though it is in perfect condition.
> >>>I live in New York City and there is no competition for Time
> >>>Warner.  I live in a building where management does not allow us to
> >>>have a Satelite Dish.  Please pass a law that allows consumers to
> >>>purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
> >>>monopoly on a service.  I plan to start a campaign on the internet
> >>>about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
> >>>the internet.
> >>>
> >>>An Angry Citizen
> >>>
> >>>I sent it to:
> >>>
> >>>Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
> >>>New York City
> >>>780 Third Ave, Suite 2601
> >>>New York, NY 10017
> >>>Phone: (212) 688-6262
> >>>Fax: (212) 688-7444
> >>>
> >>>Senator Charles E. "Chuck" Schumer
> >>>New York City
> >>>757 Third Avenue, Suite 17-02
> >>>New York, NY 10017
> >>>Phone: 212-486-4430
> >>>Fax: 212-486-7693
> >>>
> >>>Representative Gary L. Ackerman (D - 05)
> >>>Phone: 202-225-2601     fax: 202-225-1589
> >>>http://www.house.gov/ackerman/pages/contact.html
> >>>District Office:
> >>>218-14 Northern Boulevard
> >>>Bayside, NY 11361-3580
> >>>Voice: 718-423-2154    FAX: 718-423-5053
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Representative Anthony Weiner (D - 09)
> >>>Phone: 202-225-6616   fax: 202-226-7253
> >>>Email: wei***@mail.house.gov
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>I'd think a cable company can choose whether or not to authorize a box. If
> >>they don't allow outside boxes, then you're forced to pay them for one.
> >>Plain and simple.
> >>
> >>Dave
> >
> >
> > And I think there should be a law that protect citizens from a monopoly
> > - I cannot choose other service.
> >
> > Zalek
> >
> I think your building is in violation of FCC rules, which allow a
> satellite dish so long as it is mounted within the rules.

In article <1165836538.031233.89***@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com>, "zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Sam Spade wrote:
>> zalek wrote:
>> > David Moran wrote:
>> >
>> >>"Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:k7jpn29sotmbogq0kmbslt9hnp8s44pi1c@4ax.com...
>> >>
>> >>>I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner wants
>> >>>$10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street the same one I
>> >>>have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it says "call operator" -
>> >>>so I called.
>> >>>They told me that they will not support this box - I have to buy a box
>> >>>from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am living does not
>> >>>allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck. Here is the fax I am sending
>> >>>to my representative - if you are stuck with cable as me, please to
>> >>>the same:
>> >>>
>> >>>To representative?
>> >>>
>> >>>I am a Time Warner Cable subscriber.  I want to add cable service for
>> >>>a new television that I just purchased.  Time Warner Cable wants me to
>> >>>pay $10 per month for another box.  I just bought the same box that
>> >>>Time Warner uses for $30.  Time Warner refuses to recognize this box
>> >>>even though it is in perfect condition.
>> >>>I live in New York City and there is no competition for Time
>> >>>Warner.  I live in a building where management does not allow us to
>> >>>have a Satelite Dish.  Please pass a law that allows consumers to
>> >>>purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
>> >>>monopoly on a service.  I plan to start a campaign on the internet
>> >>>about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
>> >>>the internet.
>> >>>
>> >>>An Angry Citizen
>> >>>
>> >>>I sent it to:
>> >>>
>> >>>Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
>> >>>New York City
>> >>>780 Third Ave, Suite 2601
>> >>>New York, NY 10017
>> >>>Phone: (212) 688-6262
>> >>>Fax: (212) 688-7444
>> >>>
>> >>>Senator Charles E. "Chuck" Schumer
>> >>>New York City
>> >>>757 Third Avenue, Suite 17-02
>> >>>New York, NY 10017
>> >>>Phone: 212-486-4430
>> >>>Fax: 212-486-7693
>> >>>
>> >>>Representative Gary L. Ackerman (D - 05)
>> >>>Phone: 202-225-2601     fax: 202-225-1589
>> >>>http://www.house.gov/ackerman/pages/contact.html
>> >>>District Office:
>> >>>218-14 Northern Boulevard
>> >>>Bayside, NY 11361-3580
>> >>>Voice: 718-423-2154    FAX: 718-423-5053
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Representative Anthony Weiner (D - 09)
>> >>>Phone: 202-225-6616   fax: 202-226-7253
>> >>>Email: wei***@mail.house.gov
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>I'd think a cable company can choose whether or not to authorize a box. If
>> >>they don't allow outside boxes, then you're forced to pay them for one.
>> >>Plain and simple.
>> >>
>> >>Dave
>> >
>> >
>> > And I think there should be a law that protect citizens from a monopoly
>> > - I cannot choose other service.
>> >
>> > Zalek
>> >
>> I think your building is in violation of FCC rules, which allow a
>> satellite dish so long as it is mounted within the rules.
>
>Unfortunately - it is not. I checked the law - the law specifies that
>coops have right not to allow installation dishes on common property
>like roof. I will try to organize tenant rebellion - even majority of
>apartments are rental.
>
>Zalek

> "Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:k7jpn29sotmbogq0kmbslt9hnp8s44pi1c@4ax.com...
>> I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner wants
>> $10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street the same one
>> I have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it says "call
>> operator" - so I called.
>> They told me that they will not support this box - I have to buy a
>> box from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am living
>> does not allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck. Here is the fax I
>> am sending to my representative - if you are stuck with cable as me,
>> please to the same:
>>
>> To representative?
>>
>> I am a Time Warner Cable subscriber.  I want to add cable service for
>> a new television that I just purchased.  Time Warner Cable wants me
>> to pay $10 per month for another box.  I just bought the same box
>> that Time Warner uses for $30.  Time Warner refuses to recognize
>> this box even though it is in perfect condition.
>> I live in New York City and there is no competition for Time
>> Warner.  I live in a building where management does not allow us to
>> have a Satelite Dish.  Please pass a law that allows consumers to
>> purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
>> monopoly on a service.  I plan to start a campaign on the internet
>> about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
>> the internet.
>>
>> An Angry Citizen
>>
>> I sent it to:
>>
>> Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
>> New York City
>> 780 Third Ave, Suite 2601
>> New York, NY 10017
>> Phone: (212) 688-6262
>> Fax: (212) 688-7444
>>
>> Senator Charles E. "Chuck" Schumer
>> New York City
>> 757 Third Avenue, Suite 17-02
>> New York, NY 10017
>> Phone: 212-486-4430
>> Fax: 212-486-7693
>>
>> Representative Gary L. Ackerman (D - 05)
>> Phone: 202-225-2601     fax: 202-225-1589
>> http://www.house.gov/ackerman/pages/contact.html
>> District Office:
>> 218-14 Northern Boulevard
>> Bayside, NY 11361-3580
>> Voice: 718-423-2154    FAX: 718-423-5053
>>
>>
>> Representative Anthony Weiner (D - 09)
>> Phone: 202-225-6616   fax: 202-226-7253
>> Email: wei***@mail.house.gov
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> I'd think a cable company can choose whether or not to authorize a
> box. If they don't allow outside boxes, then you're forced to pay
> them for one. Plain and simple.
>
> Dave

> Dave Clary wrote:
>  > On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 03:13:44 GMT, Zalek Bloom
> <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com>
>  > wrote:
>  >
>  > >    I live in New York City and there is no competition for Time
>  > >Warner.  I live in a building where management does not allow us to
>  > >have a Satelite Dish.  Please pass a law that allows consumers to
>  > >purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
>  > >monopoly on a service.
>  >
>  > If you have a balcony or a porch where you can set up a satellite
>  > dish, there is a law that says you can do so (providing it's less
> than
>  > 39 inches in diameter IIRC).
>
> Yup, and it also covers OTA antennas as well. The Winegard
> SquareShooter is a good candidate.
>
> Read the FCC rules here.
>
> http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html
>
> GG

>>GG
>
>
> I am not a lawyer, but it says:
> "The rule does not apply to common areas that are owned by a landlord,
> a community association, or jointly by condominium or cooperative
> owners where the antenna user does not have an exclusive use area. Such
> common areas may include the roof or exterior wall of a multiple
> dwelling unit. Therefore, restrictions on antennas installed in or on
> such common areas are enforceable".
> And I don't have balcony :-----------------(((
>
> Zalek
>

> "Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:k7jpn29sotmbogq0kmbslt9hnp8s44pi1c@4ax.com
> > I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner wants
> > $10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street the same
> > one I have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it says "call
> > operator" - so I called.
> > They told me that they will not support this box - I have to buy a
> > box from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am living
> > does not allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck. Here is the fax I
> > am sending to my representative - if you are stuck with cable as
> > me, please to the same:
>
> <snip>
>
> Comcast only charges $5.10 a month for an extra box and remote.
>
> --
>
>
> Travis in Shoreline Washington

"Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:k7jpn29sotmbogq0kmbslt9hnp8s44pi1c@4ax.com...
>I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner wants
> $10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street the same one I
> have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it says "call operator" -
> so I called.
> They told me that they will not support this box - I have to buy a box
> from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am living does not
> allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck. Here is the fax I am sending
> to my representative - if you are stuck with cable as me, please to
> the same:
>
> To representative?
>
> I am a Time Warner Cable subscriber.  I want to add cable service for
> a new television that I just purchased.  Time Warner Cable wants me to
> pay $10 per month for another box.  I just bought the same box that
> Time Warner uses for $30.  Time Warner refuses to recognize this box
> even though it is in perfect condition.
> I live in New York City and there is no competition for Time
> Warner.  I live in a building where management does not allow us to
> have a Satelite Dish.  Please pass a law that allows consumers to
> purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
> monopoly on a service.  I plan to start a campaign on the internet
> about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
> the internet.
>
> An Angry Citizen
>
> I sent it to:
>
> Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
> New York City
> 780 Third Ave, Suite 2601
> New York, NY 10017
> Phone: (212) 688-6262
> Fax: (212) 688-7444
>
> Senator Charles E. "Chuck" Schumer
> New York City
> 757 Third Avenue, Suite 17-02
> New York, NY 10017
> Phone: 212-486-4430
> Fax: 212-486-7693
>
> Representative Gary L. Ackerman (D - 05)
> Phone: 202-225-2601     fax: 202-225-1589
> http://www.house.gov/ackerman/pages/contact.html
> District Office:
> 218-14 Northern Boulevard
> Bayside, NY 11361-3580
> Voice: 718-423-2154    FAX: 718-423-5053
>
>
> Representative Anthony Weiner (D - 09)
> Phone: 202-225-6616   fax: 202-226-7253
> Email: wei***@mail.house.gov

> I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner wants
> $10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street the same one I
> have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it says "call operator" -
> so I called.
> They told me that they will not support this box - I have to buy a box
> from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am living does not
> allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck. Here is the fax I am sending
> to my representative - if you are stuck with cable as me, please to
> the same:
>
> To representative?
>
> I am a Time Warner Cable subscriber.  I want to add cable service for
> a new television that I just purchased.  Time Warner Cable wants me to
> pay $10 per month for another box.  I just bought the same box that
> Time Warner uses for $30.  Time Warner refuses to recognize this box
> even though it is in perfect condition. 
>     I live in New York City and there is no competition for Time
> Warner.  I live in a building where management does not allow us to
> have a Satelite Dish.  Please pass a law that allows consumers to
> purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
> monopoly on a service.  I plan to start a campaign on the internet
> about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
> the internet.
>
> An Angry Citizen
>
> I sent it to:
>
> Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
> New York City
> 780 Third Ave, Suite 2601
> New York, NY 10017
> Phone: (212) 688-6262
> Fax: (212) 688-7444
>
> Senator Charles E. "Chuck" Schumer
> New York City
> 757 Third Avenue, Suite 17-02
> New York, NY 10017
> Phone: 212-486-4430
> Fax: 212-486-7693
>
> Representative Gary L. Ackerman (D - 05)    
> Phone: 202-225-2601        fax: 202-225-1589   
> http://www.house.gov/ackerman/pages/contact.html
> District Office:
> 218-14 Northern Boulevard
> Bayside, NY 11361-3580 
> Voice: 718-423-2154    FAX: 718-423-5053 
>
>    
> Representative Anthony Weiner (D - 09) 
> Phone: 202-225-6616   fax: 202-226-7253
> Email: wei***@mail.house.gov
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> "Jukka Aho" <jukka.***@iki.fi> shaped the electrons to say:
> >2) You carry the device home and plug it to the cable outlet - and
> >bingo, you'll already see the "must carry" channels.
> >
> >3) If you want to see more channels, you'll contact your cable operator,
> >get a smartcard, and stick it into the card reader slot on the front
> >panel of your set-top box - and hey presto, you'll see whatever channels
> >or channel packages you have ordered and paid for.
>
> That's how it works here in the US too in most areas.  Analog cable is
> a standard, any device with a 'Cable Ready' tuner can connect and tune
> analog channels.  Most TVs, VCRs, DVRs, etc, sold for the past couple
> of decades are Cable Ready.
>
> For digital cable until a couple of years ago you were stuck with the
> cable company's STB.  But now we have CableCARD.  There are CableCARD
> TVs, CableCARD DVRs (like the TiVo Series3), and generic CableCARD
> STBs.  These are labeled as Digital Cable Ready.
>
> Digital cable is QAM modulated in the US.  Some digital cable channels
> can be sent as 'clear QAM', no encryption.  Any QAM tuner can tune
> those - any DCR device has a QAM tuner, and there are other devices
> with QAM (but no CableCARD), including PCI tuner cards.
>
> You only need CableCARD for encrypted digital channels.  A CableCARD
> is a decryption token, pretty much the same form factor as a PCMCIA
> drive.
>
> I have a TiVo Series3 dual-tuner DVR using CableCARD for digital
> cable.
>
> -MZ

> --
> <URL:mailto:megazoneatmegazone.org> Gweep, Discordian, Author, Engineer, me.
> "A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-852-2171
> <URL:http://www.megazone.org/>  <URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/> Eris

> "Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
>
>>The building I am living does not
>>allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck
>
>
> Federal law prohibits building owners or homeowner associations from
> preventing you from mounting a sat dish where no structural damage will
> occur.
>
> Check the FCC website for help. All you have to do is send them the name of
> the offending party, their lawyers do the rest.
>
>

"Sam Spade" <S**@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:OXjgh.5789$a14.1434@newsfe24.lga...
>R Sweeney wrote:
>> "Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>>
>>>The building I am living does not
>>>allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck
>>
>>
>> Federal law prohibits building owners or homeowner associations from
>> preventing you from mounting a sat dish where no structural damage will
>> occur.
>>
>> Check the FCC website for help. All you have to do is send them the name
>> of the offending party, their lawyers do the rest.
> That is not what the FCC web site says.

> Federal law prohibits building owners or homeowner associations from
> preventing you from mounting a sat dish where no structural damage will
> occur.
>
> Check the FCC website for help. All you have to do is send them the name of
> the offending party, their lawyers do the rest.
>
>

"M Berger" <ber***@shout.net> wrote in message
news:engp15$dk9$1@roundup.shout.net...
> Why do you think the FCC lawyers will get involved?

"zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165982119.803057.157300@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Well - my war with Time Warner is not over yet, but I did almost all
> humanly possible:
>
> I called FCC - they acknoledged that Time Warner is breaking rule -
> they told me FCC do not enforce rules and told me to file a commplain
> at NY agency - 800 342-3377 - which I did.
>
> I notified my Congress/Senat representative
>
> I sent my case to On Your Side from WABC
>
> I posted a message on misc.legal.moderated asking if it is possible to
> file a class action suit against Time Warner for breaking FCC rules
>
> I cried on my wife's shoulder...
>
> Anything else can I do?
>
> Zalek
>

> "zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1165982119.803057.157300@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> > Well - my war with Time Warner is not over yet, but I did almost all
> > humanly possible:
> >
> > I called FCC - they acknoledged that Time Warner is breaking rule -
> > they told me FCC do not enforce rules and told me to file a commplain
> > at NY agency - 800 342-3377 - which I did.
> >
> > I notified my Congress/Senat representative
> >
> > I sent my case to On Your Side from WABC
> >
> > I posted a message on misc.legal.moderated asking if it is possible to
> > file a class action suit against Time Warner for breaking FCC rules
> >
> > I cried on my wife's shoulder...
> >
> > Anything else can I do?
> >
> > Zalek
> >
>
> Cable TV is a luxury, not a right. If you don't want to pay their price,
> DON'T GET CABLE! Plain and simple.
>
> Dave

"zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166095120.254229.119310@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>
> David Moran wrote:
>> "zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1165982119.803057.157300@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> > Well - my war with Time Warner is not over yet, but I did almost all
>> > humanly possible:
>> >
>> > I called FCC - they acknoledged that Time Warner is breaking rule -
>> > they told me FCC do not enforce rules and told me to file a commplain
>> > at NY agency - 800 342-3377 - which I did.
>> >
>> > I notified my Congress/Senat representative
>> >
>> > I sent my case to On Your Side from WABC
>> >
>> > I posted a message on misc.legal.moderated asking if it is possible to
>> > file a class action suit against Time Warner for breaking FCC rules
>> >
>> > I cried on my wife's shoulder...
>> >
>> > Anything else can I do?
>> >
>> > Zalek
>> >
>>
>> Cable TV is a luxury, not a right. If you don't want to pay their price,
>> DON'T GET CABLE! Plain and simple.
>>
>> Dave
>
> Dude,
>
> I live in apartment building where my only choice is cable TV or no TV
> - plan and simple. If I had a choice to switch to a satellite I
> wouldn't bitch about my problem.
>
> Zalek
>

"zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166095120.254229.119310@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>
> David Moran wrote:
>> "zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1165982119.803057.157300@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> > Well - my war with Time Warner is not over yet, but I did almost all
>> > humanly possible:
>> >
>> > I called FCC - they acknoledged that Time Warner is breaking rule -
>> > they told me FCC do not enforce rules and told me to file a commplain
>> > at NY agency - 800 342-3377 - which I did.
>> >
>> > I notified my Congress/Senat representative
>> >
>> > I sent my case to On Your Side from WABC
>> >
>> > I posted a message on misc.legal.moderated asking if it is possible to
>> > file a class action suit against Time Warner for breaking FCC rules
>> >
>> > I cried on my wife's shoulder...
>> >
>> > Anything else can I do?
>> >
>> > Zalek
>> >
>>
>> Cable TV is a luxury, not a right. If you don't want to pay their price,
>> DON'T GET CABLE! Plain and simple.
>>
>> Dave
>
> Dude,
>
> I live in apartment building where my only choice is cable TV or no TV
> - plan and simple. If I had a choice to switch to a satellite I
> wouldn't bitch about my problem.
>
> Zalek
>

>
> "zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1166095120.254229.119310@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> David Moran wrote:
>>> "zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1165982119.803057.157300@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
[deletia]
>> I live in apartment building where my only choice is cable TV or no TV
>> - plan and simple. If I had a choice to switch to a satellite I
>> wouldn't bitch about my problem.
>>
>> Zalek
>>
>
> If I were you, this would be the least of my concerns. My biggest concern
> would be having a warrant out for my arrest for possession of stolen
> property. I'll bet eventually, you will get caught. Then, you'll spend a

"JEDIDIAH" <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote in message
news:sb9854-fb4.ln1@nomad.mishnet...
> On 2006-12-14, David Moran <dmoran21@NOSPAMcox.net> wrote:
>>
>> "zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1166095120.254229.119310@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> David Moran wrote:
>>>> "zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1165982119.803057.157300@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> [deletia]
>>> I live in apartment building where my only choice is cable TV or no TV
>>> - plan and simple. If I had a choice to switch to a satellite I
>>> wouldn't bitch about my problem.
>>>
>>> Zalek
>>>
>>
>> If I were you, this would be the least of my concerns. My biggest concern
>> would be having a warrant out for my arrest for possession of stolen
>> property. I'll bet eventually, you will get caught. Then, you'll spend a
>
> You are a moron and a dickhead.
>
> [deletia]

>
> David Moran wrote:
>> "zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1165982119.803057.157300@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> > Well - my war with Time Warner is not over yet, but I did almost all
>> > humanly possible:
>> >
>> > I called FCC - they acknoledged that Time Warner is breaking rule -
>> > they told me FCC do not enforce rules and told me to file a commplain
>> > at NY agency - 800 342-3377 - which I did.
>> >
>> > I notified my Congress/Senat representative
>> >
>> > I sent my case to On Your Side from WABC
>> >
>> > I posted a message on misc.legal.moderated asking if it is possible to
>> > file a class action suit against Time Warner for breaking FCC rules
>> >
>> > I cried on my wife's shoulder...
>> >
>> > Anything else can I do?
>> >
>> > Zalek
>> >
>>
>> Cable TV is a luxury, not a right. If you don't want to pay their price,

> On 2006-12-14, zalek <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > David Moran wrote:
> >> "zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1165982119.803057.157300@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> >> > Well - my war with Time Warner is not over yet, but I did almost all
> >> > humanly possible:
> >> >
> >> > I called FCC - they acknoledged that Time Warner is breaking rule -
> >> > they told me FCC do not enforce rules and told me to file a commplain
> >> > at NY agency - 800 342-3377 - which I did.
> >> >
> >> > I notified my Congress/Senat representative
> >> >
> >> > I sent my case to On Your Side from WABC
> >> >
> >> > I posted a message on misc.legal.moderated asking if it is possible to
> >> > file a class action suit against Time Warner for breaking FCC rules
> >> >
> >> > I cried on my wife's shoulder...
> >> >
> >> > Anything else can I do?
> >> >
> >> > Zalek
> >> >
> >>
> >> Cable TV is a luxury, not a right. If you don't want to pay their price,
>
>     No. They are a natural monopoly, or use/abuse a public good. So
> they need to be put under the sort of regulation that a natural market
> can't provide since there isn't one.
>
> >> DON'T GET CABLE! Plain and simple.
>
>     Abusive business practices shouldn't be tolerated simply because
> it is not a matter of life and limb.
>
> >>
> >> Dave
> >
> > Dude,
> >
> > I live in apartment building where my only choice is cable TV or no TV
> > - plan and simple. If I had a choice to switch to a satellite I
> > wouldn't bitch about my problem.

"Dr. Personality" <affa***@no.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:141220061355126225%affable@no.com.invalid...
> In article <tim.streater-C91B9D.17275514122***@individual.net>, Tim
> Streater <tim.strea***@dante.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Rabbit ears on the telly no good?
>
> You still using a crystal set?
>
> Forcing customers to pay $10/mo for a cable box, while not allowing the
> use of compatible boxes offered by third parties, is a monopolistic
> practice that, if challenged, likely wouldn't withstand FTC scrutiny,
> much less that of the courts.
>
> Snipe at this guy all you want to, and keep telling him he doesn't
> really need cable, but the fact is that he's right.
>
> As for me, I used a Rat Shack box to get basic cable on a '70s-era TV
> until I eventually replaced the set.  Everything worked fine, and
> nobody at the two cable companies I dealt with back then ever had a
> problem with me doing it.  I saved $2/mo for ten or twelve years.

> "Dr. Personality" <affa***@no.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:141220061355126225%affable@no.com.invalid...
> > In article <tim.streater-C91B9D.17275514122***@individual.net>, Tim
> > Streater <tim.strea***@dante.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Rabbit ears on the telly no good?
> >
> > You still using a crystal set?
> >
> > Forcing customers to pay $10/mo for a cable box, while not allowing the
> > use of compatible boxes offered by third parties, is a monopolistic
> > practice that, if challenged, likely wouldn't withstand FTC scrutiny,
> > much less that of the courts.
> >
> > Snipe at this guy all you want to, and keep telling him he doesn't
> > really need cable, but the fact is that he's right.
> >
> > As for me, I used a Rat Shack box to get basic cable on a '70s-era TV
> > until I eventually replaced the set.  Everything worked fine, and
> > nobody at the two cable companies I dealt with back then ever had a
> > problem with me doing it.  I saved $2/mo for ten or twelve years.
>
> It's not like anyone is forcing you to rent a box; it's a choice. I could
> get by without a box if I went back to basic cable, but I choose to get
> digital cable and so I need the box. I've never had a problem renting a box,
> because I knew I'd need it if I decided to go digital.

> In article <141220061355126225%affa***@no.com.invalid>,
>  "Dr. Personality" <affa***@no.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > In article <tim.streater-C91B9D.17275514122***@individual.net>, Tim
> > Streater <tim.strea***@dante.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Rabbit ears on the telly no good?
> >
> > You still using a crystal set?
>
> No, Sonny, we are in the digital era here. Aerial on the roof pointed at
> the transmitter and a digital box which gives me about 40 channels with
> DVD quality and, in certain cases, interaction (e.g. for certain sports
> events you can choose which camera you get and which commentators). The
> Freeview (digital) box is a commodity item for about £40. I could have
> got Sky but I don't see why I should pay rentals for it given they have
> commercials. And its too American anyway.

"Dr. Personality" <affa***@no.com.invalid> wrote:

> In article <tim.streater-8C8F47.10225115122***@individual.net>, Tim
> Streater <tim.strea***@dante.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > In article <141220061355126225%affa***@no.com.invalid>,
> >  "Dr. Personality" <affa***@no.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <tim.streater-C91B9D.17275514122***@individual.net>, Tim
> > > Streater <tim.strea***@dante.org.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Rabbit ears on the telly no good?
> > >
> > > You still using a crystal set?
> >
> > No, Sonny, we are in the digital era here. Aerial on the roof pointed at
> > the transmitter and a digital box which gives me about 40 channels with
> > DVD quality and, in certain cases, interaction (e.g. for certain sports
> > events you can choose which camera you get and which commentators). The
> > Freeview (digital) box is a commodity item for about £40. I could have
> > got Sky but I don't see why I should pay rentals for it given they have
> > commercials. And its too American anyway.
>
>
> How lucky for you.  Not all of us live in a bog with clear
> line-of-sight to a transmitter mounted on the roof of the cheesemaker's
> barn.

> In article <151220061106532033%affa***@no.com.invalid>,
>  "Dr. Personality" <affa***@no.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > In article <tim.streater-8C8F47.10225115122***@individual.net>, Tim
> > Streater <tim.strea***@dante.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <141220061355126225%affa***@no.com.invalid>,
> > >  "Dr. Personality" <affa***@no.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <tim.streater-C91B9D.17275514122***@individual.net>, Tim
> > > > Streater <tim.strea***@dante.org.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Rabbit ears on the telly no good?
> > > >
> > > > You still using a crystal set?
> > >
> > > No, Sonny, we are in the digital era here. Aerial on the roof pointed at
> > > the transmitter and a digital box which gives me about 40 channels with
> > > DVD quality and, in certain cases, interaction (e.g. for certain sports
> > > events you can choose which camera you get and which commentators). The
> > > Freeview (digital) box is a commodity item for about £40. I could have
> > > got Sky but I don't see why I should pay rentals for it given they have
> > > commercials. And its too American anyway.
> >
> >
> > How lucky for you.  Not all of us live in a bog with clear
> > line-of-sight to a transmitter mounted on the roof of the cheesemaker's
> > barn.
>
> Well, there it is. I'll carry on enjoying digital and you can carry on
> whinging about nothing. Ciao!

> In article <tim.streater-C91B9D.17275514122***@individual.net>, Tim
> Streater <tim.strea***@dante.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Rabbit ears on the telly no good?
>
> You still using a crystal set?
>
> Forcing customers to pay $10/mo for a cable box, while not allowing the
> use of compatible boxes offered by third parties, is a monopolistic
> practice that, if challenged, likely wouldn't withstand FTC scrutiny,
> much less that of the courts.
>
> Snipe at this guy all you want to, and keep telling him he doesn't
> really need cable, but the fact is that he's right.
>
> As for me, I used a Rat Shack box to get basic cable on a '70s-era TV
> until I eventually replaced the set.  Everything worked fine, and
> nobody at the two cable companies I dealt with back then ever had a
> problem with me doing it.  I saved $2/mo for ten or twelve years.

> Well - my war with Time Warner is not over yet, but I did almost all
> humanly possible:
>
> I called FCC - they acknoledged that Time Warner is breaking rule -
> they told me FCC do not enforce rules and told me to file a commplain
> at NY agency - 800 342-3377 - which I did.
>
> I notified my Congress/Senat representative
>
> I sent my case to On Your Side from WABC
>
> I posted a message on misc.legal.moderated asking if it is possible to
> file a class action suit against Time Warner for breaking FCC rules
>
> I cried on my wife's shoulder...
>
> Anything else can I do?
> 
> Zalek
>

> Well - my war with Time Warner is not over yet, but I did almost all
> humanly possible:
>
> I called FCC - they acknoledged that Time Warner is breaking rule -
> they told me FCC do not enforce rules and told me to file a commplain
> at NY agency - 800 342-3377 - which I did.
>
> I notified my Congress/Senat representative
>
> I sent my case to On Your Side from WABC
>
> I posted a message on misc.legal.moderated asking if it is possible to
> file a class action suit against Time Warner for breaking FCC rules
>
> I cried on my wife's shoulder...
>
> Anything else can I do?
> 
> Zalek
>

"zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote:

>Here are the latest updates of my attempts to force Time Warner to send
>me a cable signal to a box I purchased not from them:
>
>I called FCC and was told that Time Warner is breaking the FCC rule and
>asked me to file a complain. I filed a complain and today (it was
>faster then a speeding bullet!!!) I got a letter from State of NY
>Department of Public Service telling me that they "have escalated my
>concern to senior staff at the company".
>
>I also sent an email to FCC asking them if Time Warner broke the FCC
>rule. Today I received an email with the message:
>http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Cable/News_Releases/1999/nrcb9009.html
>
>Does anyone have an idea what does it mean?
>
>Zalek

> I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner wants
> $10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street the same one I
> have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it says "call operator" -
> so I called.
> They told me that they will not support this box - I have to buy a box
> from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am living does not
> allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck. Here is the fax I am sending
> to my representative - if you are stuck with cable as me, please to
> the same:
>
> To representative?
>
> I am a Time Warner Cable subscriber.  I want to add cable service for
> a new television that I just purchased.  Time Warner Cable wants me to
> pay $10 per month for another box.  I just bought the same box that
> Time Warner uses for $30.  Time Warner refuses to recognize this box
> even though it is in perfect condition.
>     I live in New York City and there is no competition for Time
> Warner.  I live in a building where management does not allow us to
> have a Satelite Dish.  Please pass a law that allows consumers to
> purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
> monopoly on a service.  I plan to start a campaign on the internet
> about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
> the internet.
>
> An Angry Citizen
>
> I sent it to:
>
> Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
> New York City
> 780 Third Ave, Suite 2601
> New York, NY 10017
> Phone: (212) 688-6262
> Fax: (212) 688-7444
>
> Senator Charles E. "Chuck" Schumer
> New York City
> 757 Third Avenue, Suite 17-02
> New York, NY 10017
> Phone: 212-486-4430
> Fax: 212-486-7693
>
> Representative Gary L. Ackerman (D - 05)
> Phone: 202-225-2601        fax: 202-225-1589
> http://www.house.gov/ackerman/pages/contact.html
> District Office:
> 218-14 Northern Boulevard
> Bayside, NY 11361-3580
> Voice: 718-423-2154    FAX: 718-423-5053
>
>
> Representative Anthony Weiner (D - 09)
> Phone: 202-225-6616   fax: 202-226-7253
> Email: wei***@mail.house.gov

>
>> #3). Have you considered relocating to a single residence building
>> where you can get satellite or whatever you please instead of beating
>> your head against the beaurocratic (sp?) wall? I've never heard of such
>> an issue in rural America.
>
> Your solution is to have him move to "rural America"?  And you think
> that dish placement, for just one example, isn't an issue among
> homeowners associations in "rural America"?  If you don't know that,
> you don't know much.
>
>> #4). Define "rights". Many sons and daughters of America have served /
>> died defending our "right" to be free, but I personally have never
>> heard of any of them doing that for the "right" to be able to watch tv
>> any damn way one pleases.
>
> In other words, nobody can ever object to, say, an anti-competitive
> practice by a cable service provider because said objection is not
> sufficiently important when judged against the deaths in combat of our
> armed forces.  Pray tell, what is?
>
>> #5). Does the phrase "caveat emptor" mean anything to you?
>
> WTF is it *supposed* to mean in this context?  Or does he have to live
> with the cows and chickens for a few months before you'll tell him?
>
>> No doubt some-one somewhere will feel that I'm full of crap for what I
>> just said
>
> Bingo.  Rest snipped.
>
> Others here have wondered if the box he wants to use was stolen.  I
> think that's a valid question.  Maybe it's the only one.

> "Dr. Personality" <affa***@no.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:161220061832408907%affable@no.com.invalid...
> > In article <1166310066.091388.101***@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com>,
> > catv tech <tore***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> #1). If the product offered is unacceptable, don't buy it ..... shop
> >> around for something better.
> >
> > Not possible when the cable company has a monopoly, of course.  And
> > please don't tell me about how he could use rabbit ears instead.  You
> > might as well say he doesn't really need the electric company; he can
> > just rent ten thousand hamster wheels and hook them up to an inverter.
>
> Give me a break. Electricity is much more important than cable.

> <Snipped>
> >>> Others here have wondered if the box he wants to use was stolen.  I
> >>> think that's a valid question.  Maybe it's the only one.
> >> It was stated that it was stolen earlier in the thread.
> >
> > Did the OP state that?  I know someone (or several someones) made that
> > charge without evidence, but I didn't see the OP admit to it.
>
> I'm one of those who used that word.  Maybe it was a bit strong, but
> here's the logic behind it.
>
> The OP Stated: "I bought it from a person that was using the
> same cable company in the same city as me - Time Warner in NYC. I have
> exectly the same box for my TV - Scientific Atlanta - Explorer 2100.
> Cable company recognized this box - the box was displaying a message to
> call operator because the service was cancelled - other box worked OK."

> Since Time Warner does not sell these boxes, it follows that it was sold
> without the authorization of the owner. Of course, this is based on the
> assumption that it was a leased box to begin with, not a Scientific
> Atlanta Explorer 2100 obtained from some other source.  Since the box
> displayed a message that service had been canceled, it follows that TWC
> actually owned the box and leased it to the previous user who either
> canceled his service or stopped paying the bill long enough that he got
> shut off.
>
> The OP wants to whine because TWC won't activate his illegally gotten
> box.  He'd actually have something valid to say if he were angry at the
> individual who sold it to him.  It was obviously misrepresented by the
> seller.  Hell, I'd be turning the seller in to the cops just for pissing
> me off, never mind the money I was out.  If someone sold you a car and
> you found out after the fact that the title was forged and the car was
> stolen, don't you think you'd be telling the cops about it instead of
> getting pissed because "your car" had been towed, processed and returned
> to the owner?

> Ed wrote:
> [...]
>> The OP wants to whine because TWC won't activate his illegally gotten
>> box.  He'd actually have something valid to say if he were angry at the
>> individual who sold it to him.  It was obviously misrepresented by the
>> seller.  Hell, I'd be turning the seller in to the cops just for pissing
>> me off, never mind the money I was out.  If someone sold you a car and
>> you found out after the fact that the title was forged and the car was
>> stolen, don't you think you'd be telling the cops about it instead of
>> getting pissed because "your car" had been towed, processed and returned
>> to the owner?
>
> Clarification - I purchased this box LEGALLY. There is no law (yet...)
> that forbids selling or buyiny cable boxes. If this box is stolen, the
> owner should complain. Meantime, Time Warner have all information about
> this box and is not complaining that box is stolen, Time Warner is
> complaining that I don't want to buy exactly the same box for a price
> of $10/month.
>
> Zalek
>

> zalek wrote:
> > Ed wrote:
> > [...]
> >> The OP wants to whine because TWC won't activate his illegally gotten
> >> box.  He'd actually have something valid to say if he were angry at the
> >> individual who sold it to him.  It was obviously misrepresented by the
> >> seller.  Hell, I'd be turning the seller in to the cops just for pissing
> >> me off, never mind the money I was out.  If someone sold you a car and
> >> you found out after the fact that the title was forged and the car was
> >> stolen, don't you think you'd be telling the cops about it instead of
> >> getting pissed because "your car" had been towed, processed and returned
> >> to the owner?
> >
> > Clarification - I purchased this box LEGALLY. There is no law (yet...)
> > that forbids selling or buyiny cable boxes. If this box is stolen, the
> > owner should complain. Meantime, Time Warner have all information about
> > this box and is not complaining that box is stolen, Time Warner is
> > complaining that I don't want to buy exactly the same box for a price
> > of $10/month.
> >
> > Zalek
> >
>
> You may believe you purchased the box legally, but if it was the
> property of TWC, you did not.  There is a law that forbids selling
> something which you do not own.  It would apply equally to cable boxes
> as well as cars, boats, televisions and chewing gum.

> I bought this box LEGALLY and as long as the owner of the box is not
> complaining, let's not argue about it.  Let's talk about the real
> issue.  Does a coporation have the right to create de facto a monopoly
> and force consumers to buy equipment from them only?
>

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el***@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-3B7489.10573617122006@nntp4.usenetserver.com...
> In article <171220061035591846%affa***@no.com.invalid>,
> "Dr. Personality" <affa***@no.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> > You aren't crying about the very monopolistic diamond industry, are
>> > you?
>> > No, you aren't.  Why not?
>>
>> Gee, I dunno.  Maybe it's because we're not talking about the diamond
>> industry?
>
> That's right--because you don't give a rat's ass about the diamond
> industry.
>
> You DO care, however, about cable TV.  You treat it like it's a utility,
> like electric and water.
>
> It's not.  Get over it and go on with your life.  And there's plenty of
> competition--satellite, Netflix, and so on.
>

"zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166386562.621536.126860@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> David Moran wrote:
> [...]
>>
>> As I've said all along. If you don't want to pay the price, don't get
>> cable.
>> That's essentially saying "I want cable, but I don't want to pay the
>> price,
>> though I pay it anyway". I have cable because I want it and I can afford
>> it;
>> I don't NEED it. If I woke up tomorrow and found out I had a sudden drop
>> in
>> income, cable would be the first to go. That's a good $90 back in my
>> pocket
>> each month. Yes, I said $90; I have digital cable, the premium channels,
>> and
>> the DVR. My internet and phone would be the last to go because I use them
>> for work and other things that I need to do. I could always use the
>> internet
>> from school, but it is MUCH more convenient to have internet here at
>> home.
>>
>> Dave
>
> Dave,
>
> I appreciate your crappy work of defending cable companies, they
> don't deserve more.
> I don't give a damm about a cable or satelite - I want TV channels
> I like. As I explained - in NYC I have no choice - the only
> supplier of TV channels like CNN or Discovery is Time Warner - and
> Time Warner charges me on top of service I pay - $10/month for each TV.
> Time Warner even does not allow me to buy a cable box from other
> sources. I want this admition in writing and to send it to FCC and
> politicians that suppose to represent NY consumers. I think that as a
> consumer I have a right to fight this irp-off - I am sure that after
> work hours - you will agree me.
>
> Zalek
>

>
>"zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1166386562.621536.126860@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> David Moran wrote:
>> [...]
>>>
>>> As I've said all along. If you don't want to pay the price, don't get
>>> cable.
>>> That's essentially saying "I want cable, but I don't want to pay the
>>> price,
>>> though I pay it anyway". I have cable because I want it and I can afford
>>> it;
>>> I don't NEED it. If I woke up tomorrow and found out I had a sudden drop
>>> in
>>> income, cable would be the first to go. That's a good $90 back in my
>>> pocket
>>> each month. Yes, I said $90; I have digital cable, the premium channels,
>>> and
>>> the DVR. My internet and phone would be the last to go because I use them
>>> for work and other things that I need to do. I could always use the
>>> internet
>>> from school, but it is MUCH more convenient to have internet here at
>>> home.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> I appreciate your crappy work of defending cable companies, they
>> don't deserve more.
>> I don't give a damm about a cable or satelite - I want TV channels
>> I like. As I explained - in NYC I have no choice - the only
>> supplier of TV channels like CNN or Discovery is Time Warner - and
>> Time Warner charges me on top of service I pay - $10/month for each TV.
>> Time Warner even does not allow me to buy a cable box from other
>> sources. I want this admition in writing and to send it to FCC and
>> politicians that suppose to represent NY consumers. I think that as a
>> consumer I have a right to fight this irp-off - I am sure that after
>> work hours - you will agree me.
>>
>> Zalek
>>
>
>If I could, I'd buy a box myself. Since I can't, complaining won't help and
>I've never had a problem paying the rental fee for a box.
>
>Dave
>

"Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a0fbo2pibdeg1htofcbqeaeckqjafjoacb@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:59:07 -0600, "David Moran"
> <dmoran21@NOSPAMcox.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:1166386562.621536.126860@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> David Moran wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> As I've said all along. If you don't want to pay the price, don't get
>>>> cable.
>>>> That's essentially saying "I want cable, but I don't want to pay the
>>>> price,
>>>> though I pay it anyway". I have cable because I want it and I can
>>>> afford
>>>> it;
>>>> I don't NEED it. If I woke up tomorrow and found out I had a sudden
>>>> drop
>>>> in
>>>> income, cable would be the first to go. That's a good $90 back in my
>>>> pocket
>>>> each month. Yes, I said $90; I have digital cable, the premium
>>>> channels,
>>>> and
>>>> the DVR. My internet and phone would be the last to go because I use
>>>> them
>>>> for work and other things that I need to do. I could always use the
>>>> internet
>>>> from school, but it is MUCH more convenient to have internet here at
>>>> home.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> I appreciate your crappy work of defending cable companies, they
>>> don't deserve more.
>>> I don't give a damm about a cable or satelite - I want TV channels
>>> I like. As I explained - in NYC I have no choice - the only
>>> supplier of TV channels like CNN or Discovery is Time Warner - and
>>> Time Warner charges me on top of service I pay - $10/month for each TV.
>>> Time Warner even does not allow me to buy a cable box from other
>>> sources. I want this admition in writing and to send it to FCC and
>>> politicians that suppose to represent NY consumers. I think that as a
>>> consumer I have a right to fight this irp-off - I am sure that after
>>> work hours - you will agree me.
>>>
>>> Zalek
>>>
>>
>>If I could, I'd buy a box myself. Since I can't, complaining won't help
>>and
>>I've never had a problem paying the rental fee for a box.
>>
>>Dave
>>
>
> Dave,
>
> You are perfect consumer - company does not allow you to buy a product
> from a competition, charges you rip-off prices and you never have
> problems. I would love to sell you something. What you are shopping
> for? Let my be your personal product supplier.
>
> Zalek

>
> I appreciate your crappy work of defending cable companies, they
> don't deserve more.
> I don't give a damm about a cable or satelite - I want TV channels
> I like. As I explained - in NYC I have no choice - the only
> supplier of TV channels like CNN or Discovery is Time Warner

> In article <171220061035591846%affa***@no.com.invalid>,
>  "Dr. Personality" <affa***@no.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > Face it:  nobody cares if a luxury item is supplied by a monopoly.  It's
> > > a luxury item.
> > >
> > > But you think you are OWED cable TV.  You're an asshole.
> >
> >
> > I don't think I'm owed anything, and I never said so.  However, it
> > might be cool if the local f*ckwits (e.g., you) would actually read
> > what I wrote instead of making sh*t up.
>
> Anyone can read what you're saying.  It's plain as day.  You insist that
> you are owed cable TV on your terms, plain and simple.
>

"Dr. Personality" <affa***@no.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:171220061335000542%affable@no.com.invalid...
> In article <elmop-61315F.10581217122***@nntp4.usenetserver.com>, Elmo
> P. Shagnasty <el***@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <171220061035591846%affa***@no.com.invalid>,
>>  "Dr. Personality" <affa***@no.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > > Face it:  nobody cares if a luxury item is supplied by a monopoly.
>> > > It's
>> > > a luxury item.
>> > >
>> > > But you think you are OWED cable TV.  You're an asshole.
>> >
>> >
>> > I don't think I'm owed anything, and I never said so.  However, it
>> > might be cool if the local f*ckwits (e.g., you) would actually read
>> > what I wrote instead of making sh*t up.
>>
>> Anyone can read what you're saying.  It's plain as day.  You insist that
>> you are owed cable TV on your terms, plain and simple.
>>
>
> Once again, I'm not the OP, I don't have cable, I don't have a
> descrambler box, I don't want one, I can't use one, and you are a
> f*ckwit.
>
> Reproduce the quote where I said anything about me being "owed" cable
> TV, or f*ck off.

> Zalek Bloom wrote:
> > I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner wants
> > $10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street the same one I
> > have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it says "call operator" -
> > so I called.
> > They told me that they will not support this box - I have to buy a box
> > from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am living does not
> > allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck. Here is the fax I am sending
> > to my representative - if you are stuck with cable as me, please to
> > the same:
> >
> > To representative?
> >
> > I am a Time Warner Cable subscriber.  I want to add cable service for
> > a new television that I just purchased.  Time Warner Cable wants me to
> > pay $10 per month for another box.  I just bought the same box that
> > Time Warner uses for $30.  Time Warner refuses to recognize this box
> > even though it is in perfect condition.
> >     I live in New York City and there is no competition for Time
> > Warner.  I live in a building where management does not allow us to
> > have a Satelite Dish.  Please pass a law that allows consumers to
> > purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
> > monopoly on a service.  I plan to start a campaign on the internet
> > about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
> > the internet.
> >
> > An Angry Citizen
> >
> > I sent it to:
> >
> > Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
> > New York City
> > 780 Third Ave, Suite 2601
> > New York, NY 10017
> > Phone: (212) 688-6262
> > Fax: (212) 688-7444
> >
> > Senator Charles E. "Chuck" Schumer
> > New York City
> > 757 Third Avenue, Suite 17-02
> > New York, NY 10017
> > Phone: 212-486-4430
> > Fax: 212-486-7693
> >
> > Representative Gary L. Ackerman (D - 05)
> > Phone: 202-225-2601        fax: 202-225-1589
> > http://www.house.gov/ackerman/pages/contact.html
> > District Office:
> > 218-14 Northern Boulevard
> > Bayside, NY 11361-3580
> > Voice: 718-423-2154    FAX: 718-423-5053
> >
> >
> > Representative Anthony Weiner (D - 09)
> > Phone: 202-225-6616   fax: 202-226-7253
> > Email: wei***@mail.house.gov
>
> #1). If the product offered is unacceptable, don't buy it ..... shop
> around for something better.

> zalek wrote:
>
> > Well Mr. Genius, I want to convince a corporation to send me the same
> > signal it is sending me to 2 other cables boxes I own. I want to buy a
> > cable box from other, cheaper source. As a consumer - I think I have
> > a right to do it. Do you think otherwise?
>
> I agree with you.  I bought a vacuum that "fell off the truck" for a
> real good price.  Much less than I would have paid at Sears.  Only
> problem was the vacuum didn't work.  I had the damnded time trying to
> return it to Sears.
>
> I also had a similar problem at Yankees Stadium.  The tickets are so
> expensive.  So I bought a new set of crayons and printed one up for
> myself.  Would you believe they did not let me into the game?  The
> nerve.  The utter nerve.

"zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166387374.116060.246890@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>
> Joe Collins wrote:
>> zalek wrote:
>>
>> > Well Mr. Genius, I want to convince a corporation to send me the same
>> > signal it is sending me to 2 other cables boxes I own. I want to buy a
>> > cable box from other, cheaper source. As a consumer - I think I have
>> > a right to do it. Do you think otherwise?
>>
>> I agree with you.  I bought a vacuum that "fell off the truck" for a
>> real good price.  Much less than I would have paid at Sears.  Only
>> problem was the vacuum didn't work.  I had the damnded time trying to
>> return it to Sears.
>>
>> I also had a similar problem at Yankees Stadium.  The tickets are so
>> expensive.  So I bought a new set of crayons and printed one up for
>> myself.  Would you believe they did not let me into the game?  The
>> nerve.  The utter nerve.
>
> You are trying to be more religious than a Pope. Time Warner told me
> that the reason they don't want to send me a signal is not because the
> box I bought is stolen or dameged - the reason is because I DIDN'T BUY
> IT FROM THEM.
> Now do you understand?
>
> Zalek
>

>
>"zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1166387374.116060.246890@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Joe Collins wrote:
>>> zalek wrote:
>>>
>>> > Well Mr. Genius, I want to convince a corporation to send me the same
>>> > signal it is sending me to 2 other cables boxes I own. I want to buy a
>>> > cable box from other, cheaper source. As a consumer - I think I have
>>> > a right to do it. Do you think otherwise?
>>>
>>> I agree with you.  I bought a vacuum that "fell off the truck" for a
>>> real good price.  Much less than I would have paid at Sears.  Only
>>> problem was the vacuum didn't work.  I had the damnded time trying to
>>> return it to Sears.
>>>
>>> I also had a similar problem at Yankees Stadium.  The tickets are so
>>> expensive.  So I bought a new set of crayons and printed one up for
>>> myself.  Would you believe they did not let me into the game?  The
>>> nerve.  The utter nerve.
>>
>> You are trying to be more religious than a Pope. Time Warner told me
>> that the reason they don't want to send me a signal is not because the
>> box I bought is stolen or dameged - the reason is because I DIDN'T BUY
>> IT FROM THEM.
>> Now do you understand?
>>
>> Zalek
>>
>
>We understand that, but they can decide whether or not to authorize a box or
>not. I don't work for the cable company, but I am a professional
>mathematician. Let's look at it this way. Let's say I own a cable company in
>a market of a million people. Not every one is going to need a box; only
>those who have digital cable or possibly the ones who have an older TV. The
>chances of the latter are low so forget about those people. Let's say
>500,000 people have cable through my cable company. Let's also say 20% of
>those have digital cable. Those people need a box. If I charge the fee my
>current cable company charges ($9.95 a month), I'll make
>100000*9.95=$9,950,000 a month JUST OFF BOXES! Yeah, it's mostly about money
>and I agree it sucks, but that's the way it works. Just pay the fee or don't
>get cable; plain and simple.
>
>Dave

"Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bcfbo2lr58h2ikse1bb1i4qpn91r4iktgd@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:13:27 -0600, "David Moran"
> <dmoran21@NOSPAMcox.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:1166387374.116060.246890@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> Joe Collins wrote:
>>>> zalek wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Well Mr. Genius, I want to convince a corporation to send me the same
>>>> > signal it is sending me to 2 other cables boxes I own. I want to buy
>>>> > a
>>>> > cable box from other, cheaper source. As a consumer - I think I have
>>>> > a right to do it. Do you think otherwise?
>>>>
>>>> I agree with you.  I bought a vacuum that "fell off the truck" for a
>>>> real good price.  Much less than I would have paid at Sears.  Only
>>>> problem was the vacuum didn't work.  I had the damnded time trying to
>>>> return it to Sears.
>>>>
>>>> I also had a similar problem at Yankees Stadium.  The tickets are so
>>>> expensive.  So I bought a new set of crayons and printed one up for
>>>> myself.  Would you believe they did not let me into the game?  The
>>>> nerve.  The utter nerve.
>>>
>>> You are trying to be more religious than a Pope. Time Warner told me
>>> that the reason they don't want to send me a signal is not because the
>>> box I bought is stolen or dameged - the reason is because I DIDN'T BUY
>>> IT FROM THEM.
>>> Now do you understand?
>>>
>>> Zalek
>>>
>>
>>We understand that, but they can decide whether or not to authorize a box
>>or
>>not. I don't work for the cable company, but I am a professional
>>mathematician. Let's look at it this way. Let's say I own a cable company
>>in
>>a market of a million people. Not every one is going to need a box; only
>>those who have digital cable or possibly the ones who have an older TV.
>>The
>>chances of the latter are low so forget about those people. Let's say
>>500,000 people have cable through my cable company. Let's also say 20% of
>>those have digital cable. Those people need a box. If I charge the fee my
>>current cable company charges ($9.95 a month), I'll make
>>100000*9.95=$9,950,000 a month JUST OFF BOXES! Yeah, it's mostly about
>>money
>>and I agree it sucks, but that's the way it works. Just pay the fee or
>>don't
>>get cable; plain and simple.
>>
>>Dave
>
> Dave,
>
> I see you didn't get - do you know why a dog sucks his balls? Because
> he can.
> Do you know why Time Warner charges me 10 dollars a month for a cable
> box, probably made in China and costs them a one time pament of $5?
> Because they can, because I have no other option.
> I think this situation is not good for the American consumer. Plain
> and simple!!!
>
> Zalek

>
>"Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:bcfbo2lr58h2ikse1bb1i4qpn91r4iktgd@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:13:27 -0600, "David Moran"
>> <dmoran21@NOSPAMcox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1166387374.116060.246890@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>> Joe Collins wrote:
>>>>> zalek wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Well Mr. Genius, I want to convince a corporation to send me the same
>>>>> > signal it is sending me to 2 other cables boxes I own. I want to buy
>>>>> > a
>>>>> > cable box from other, cheaper source. As a consumer - I think I have
>>>>> > a right to do it. Do you think otherwise?
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with you.  I bought a vacuum that "fell off the truck" for a
>>>>> real good price.  Much less than I would have paid at Sears.  Only
>>>>> problem was the vacuum didn't work.  I had the damnded time trying to
>>>>> return it to Sears.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also had a similar problem at Yankees Stadium.  The tickets are so
>>>>> expensive.  So I bought a new set of crayons and printed one up for
>>>>> myself.  Would you believe they did not let me into the game?  The
>>>>> nerve.  The utter nerve.
>>>>
>>>> You are trying to be more religious than a Pope. Time Warner told me
>>>> that the reason they don't want to send me a signal is not because the
>>>> box I bought is stolen or dameged - the reason is because I DIDN'T BUY
>>>> IT FROM THEM.
>>>> Now do you understand?
>>>>
>>>> Zalek
>>>>
>>>
>>>We understand that, but they can decide whether or not to authorize a box
>>>or
>>>not. I don't work for the cable company, but I am a professional
>>>mathematician. Let's look at it this way. Let's say I own a cable company
>>>in
>>>a market of a million people. Not every one is going to need a box; only
>>>those who have digital cable or possibly the ones who have an older TV.
>>>The
>>>chances of the latter are low so forget about those people. Let's say
>>>500,000 people have cable through my cable company. Let's also say 20% of
>>>those have digital cable. Those people need a box. If I charge the fee my
>>>current cable company charges ($9.95 a month), I'll make
>>>100000*9.95=$9,950,000 a month JUST OFF BOXES! Yeah, it's mostly about
>>>money
>>>and I agree it sucks, but that's the way it works. Just pay the fee or
>>>don't
>>>get cable; plain and simple.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> I see you didn't get - do you know why a dog sucks his balls? Because
>> he can.
>> Do you know why Time Warner charges me 10 dollars a month for a cable
>> box, probably made in China and costs them a one time pament of $5?
>> Because they can, because I have no other option.
>> I think this situation is not good for the American consumer. Plain
>> and simple!!!
>>
>> Zalek
>
>You DO have another option: DON'T GET CABLE. It's pure common sense. No
>where does it say any one person has to have cable. That's like saying
>everyone needs a car, not true. What if they allow you to use your box, but
>add $10 on somewhere else, say for channels? You would STILL complain.
>
>Dave
>

"Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9dhbo292r3u2e42qsjsm3lrt0pfggsld0j@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:31:12 -0600, "David Moran"
> <dmoran21@NOSPAMcox.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:bcfbo2lr58h2ikse1bb1i4qpn91r4iktgd@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:13:27 -0600, "David Moran"
>>> <dmoran21@NOSPAMcox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:1166387374.116060.246890@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Collins wrote:
>>>>>> zalek wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Well Mr. Genius, I want to convince a corporation to send me the
>>>>>> > same
>>>>>> > signal it is sending me to 2 other cables boxes I own. I want to
>>>>>> > buy
>>>>>> > a
>>>>>> > cable box from other, cheaper source. As a consumer - I think I
>>>>>> > have
>>>>>> > a right to do it. Do you think otherwise?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with you.  I bought a vacuum that "fell off the truck" for a
>>>>>> real good price.  Much less than I would have paid at Sears.  Only
>>>>>> problem was the vacuum didn't work.  I had the damnded time trying to
>>>>>> return it to Sears.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also had a similar problem at Yankees Stadium.  The tickets are so
>>>>>> expensive.  So I bought a new set of crayons and printed one up for
>>>>>> myself.  Would you believe they did not let me into the game?  The
>>>>>> nerve.  The utter nerve.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are trying to be more religious than a Pope. Time Warner told me
>>>>> that the reason they don't want to send me a signal is not because the
>>>>> box I bought is stolen or dameged - the reason is because I DIDN'T BUY
>>>>> IT FROM THEM.
>>>>> Now do you understand?
>>>>>
>>>>> Zalek
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>We understand that, but they can decide whether or not to authorize a
>>>>box
>>>>or
>>>>not. I don't work for the cable company, but I am a professional
>>>>mathematician. Let's look at it this way. Let's say I own a cable
>>>>company
>>>>in
>>>>a market of a million people. Not every one is going to need a box; only
>>>>those who have digital cable or possibly the ones who have an older TV.
>>>>The
>>>>chances of the latter are low so forget about those people. Let's say
>>>>500,000 people have cable through my cable company. Let's also say 20%
>>>>of
>>>>those have digital cable. Those people need a box. If I charge the fee
>>>>my
>>>>current cable company charges ($9.95 a month), I'll make
>>>>100000*9.95=$9,950,000 a month JUST OFF BOXES! Yeah, it's mostly about
>>>>money
>>>>and I agree it sucks, but that's the way it works. Just pay the fee or
>>>>don't
>>>>get cable; plain and simple.
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> I see you didn't get - do you know why a dog sucks his balls? Because
>>> he can.
>>> Do you know why Time Warner charges me 10 dollars a month for a cable
>>> box, probably made in China and costs them a one time pament of $5?
>>> Because they can, because I have no other option.
>>> I think this situation is not good for the American consumer. Plain
>>> and simple!!!
>>>
>>> Zalek
>>
>>You DO have another option: DON'T GET CABLE. It's pure common sense. No
>>where does it say any one person has to have cable. That's like saying
>>everyone needs a car, not true. What if they allow you to use your box,
>>but
>>add $10 on somewhere else, say for channels? You would STILL complain.
>>
>>Dave
>>
>
> Dave,
>
> Please, let me sell you something!!!!
>
> And  - yes, I do complain. This is my RIGHT as a consumer to complain.
> And you have a right to pay overcharged priceses without any complain.
>
> Zalek
>
>

>
>"Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:9dhbo292r3u2e42qsjsm3lrt0pfggsld0j@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:31:12 -0600, "David Moran"
>> <dmoran21@NOSPAMcox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:bcfbo2lr58h2ikse1bb1i4qpn91r4iktgd@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:13:27 -0600, "David Moran"
>>>> <dmoran21@NOSPAMcox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:1166387374.116060.246890@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe Collins wrote:
>>>>>>> zalek wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Well Mr. Genius, I want to convince a corporation to send me the
>>>>>>> > same
>>>>>>> > signal it is sending me to 2 other cables boxes I own. I want to
>>>>>>> > buy
>>>>>>> > a
>>>>>>> > cable box from other, cheaper source. As a consumer - I think I
>>>>>>> > have
>>>>>>> > a right to do it. Do you think otherwise?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with you.  I bought a vacuum that "fell off the truck" for a
>>>>>>> real good price.  Much less than I would have paid at Sears.  Only
>>>>>>> problem was the vacuum didn't work.  I had the damnded time trying to
>>>>>>> return it to Sears.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also had a similar problem at Yankees Stadium.  The tickets are so
>>>>>>> expensive.  So I bought a new set of crayons and printed one up for
>>>>>>> myself.  Would you believe they did not let me into the game?  The
>>>>>>> nerve.  The utter nerve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are trying to be more religious than a Pope. Time Warner told me
>>>>>> that the reason they don't want to send me a signal is not because the
>>>>>> box I bought is stolen or dameged - the reason is because I DIDN'T BUY
>>>>>> IT FROM THEM.
>>>>>> Now do you understand?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Zalek
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>We understand that, but they can decide whether or not to authorize a
>>>>>box
>>>>>or
>>>>>not. I don't work for the cable company, but I am a professional
>>>>>mathematician. Let's look at it this way. Let's say I own a cable
>>>>>company
>>>>>in
>>>>>a market of a million people. Not every one is going to need a box; only
>>>>>those who have digital cable or possibly the ones who have an older TV.
>>>>>The
>>>>>chances of the latter are low so forget about those people. Let's say
>>>>>500,000 people have cable through my cable company. Let's also say 20%
>>>>>of
>>>>>those have digital cable. Those people need a box. If I charge the fee
>>>>>my
>>>>>current cable company charges ($9.95 a month), I'll make
>>>>>100000*9.95=$9,950,000 a month JUST OFF BOXES! Yeah, it's mostly about
>>>>>money
>>>>>and I agree it sucks, but that's the way it works. Just pay the fee or
>>>>>don't
>>>>>get cable; plain and simple.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>> Dave,
>>>>
>>>> I see you didn't get - do you know why a dog sucks his balls? Because
>>>> he can.
>>>> Do you know why Time Warner charges me 10 dollars a month for a cable
>>>> box, probably made in China and costs them a one time pament of $5?
>>>> Because they can, because I have no other option.
>>>> I think this situation is not good for the American consumer. Plain
>>>> and simple!!!
>>>>
>>>> Zalek
>>>
>>>You DO have another option: DON'T GET CABLE. It's pure common sense. No
>>>where does it say any one person has to have cable. That's like saying
>>>everyone needs a car, not true. What if they allow you to use your box,
>>>but
>>>add $10 on somewhere else, say for channels? You would STILL complain.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> Please, let me sell you something!!!!
>>
>> And  - yes, I do complain. This is my RIGHT as a consumer to complain.
>> And you have a right to pay overcharged priceses without any complain.
>>
>> Zalek
>>
>>
>
>I see I'm not getting anywhere. Let me tell you this. My brother is moving
>back here. He wanted to get digital cable, but he asked me how much the box
>was. Once he found out how much a box was, he decided just to get basic
>cable that way he gets cable, but yet he doesn't have to rent a box. You
>might have a valid complaint if you needed cable. But your complaint is just
>like someone complaining that a Lexus is too expensive. Both aren't needed
>and if you don't want to pay the price, you don't buy it.
>
>Dave

"Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nmibo2d8abd4il0ispdo767tj01spg683c@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:46:31 -0600, "David Moran"
> <dmoran21@NOSPAMcox.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:9dhbo292r3u2e42qsjsm3lrt0pfggsld0j@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:31:12 -0600, "David Moran"
>>> <dmoran21@NOSPAMcox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:bcfbo2lr58h2ikse1bb1i4qpn91r4iktgd@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:13:27 -0600, "David Moran"
>>>>> <dmoran21@NOSPAMcox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:1166387374.116060.246890@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>> zalek wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Well Mr. Genius, I want to convince a corporation to send me the
>>>>>>>> > same
>>>>>>>> > signal it is sending me to 2 other cables boxes I own. I want to
>>>>>>>> > buy
>>>>>>>> > a
>>>>>>>> > cable box from other, cheaper source. As a consumer - I think I
>>>>>>>> > have
>>>>>>>> > a right to do it. Do you think otherwise?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree with you.  I bought a vacuum that "fell off the truck" for
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> real good price.  Much less than I would have paid at Sears.  Only
>>>>>>>> problem was the vacuum didn't work.  I had the damnded time trying
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> return it to Sears.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also had a similar problem at Yankees Stadium.  The tickets are
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> expensive.  So I bought a new set of crayons and printed one up for
>>>>>>>> myself.  Would you believe they did not let me into the game?  The
>>>>>>>> nerve.  The utter nerve.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are trying to be more religious than a Pope. Time Warner told me
>>>>>>> that the reason they don't want to send me a signal is not because
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> box I bought is stolen or dameged - the reason is because I DIDN'T
>>>>>>> BUY
>>>>>>> IT FROM THEM.
>>>>>>> Now do you understand?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Zalek
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We understand that, but they can decide whether or not to authorize a
>>>>>>box
>>>>>>or
>>>>>>not. I don't work for the cable company, but I am a professional
>>>>>>mathematician. Let's look at it this way. Let's say I own a cable
>>>>>>company
>>>>>>in
>>>>>>a market of a million people. Not every one is going to need a box;
>>>>>>only
>>>>>>those who have digital cable or possibly the ones who have an older
>>>>>>TV.
>>>>>>The
>>>>>>chances of the latter are low so forget about those people. Let's say
>>>>>>500,000 people have cable through my cable company. Let's also say 20%
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>those have digital cable. Those people need a box. If I charge the fee
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>current cable company charges ($9.95 a month), I'll make
>>>>>>100000*9.95=$9,950,000 a month JUST OFF BOXES! Yeah, it's mostly about
>>>>>>money
>>>>>>and I agree it sucks, but that's the way it works. Just pay the fee or
>>>>>>don't
>>>>>>get cable; plain and simple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> I see you didn't get - do you know why a dog sucks his balls? Because
>>>>> he can.
>>>>> Do you know why Time Warner charges me 10 dollars a month for a cable
>>>>> box, probably made in China and costs them a one time pament of $5?
>>>>> Because they can, because I have no other option.
>>>>> I think this situation is not good for the American consumer. Plain
>>>>> and simple!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Zalek
>>>>
>>>>You DO have another option: DON'T GET CABLE. It's pure common sense. No
>>>>where does it say any one person has to have cable. That's like saying
>>>>everyone needs a car, not true. What if they allow you to use your box,
>>>>but
>>>>add $10 on somewhere else, say for channels? You would STILL complain.
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> Please, let me sell you something!!!!
>>>
>>> And  - yes, I do complain. This is my RIGHT as a consumer to complain.
>>> And you have a right to pay overcharged priceses without any complain.
>>>
>>> Zalek
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I see I'm not getting anywhere. Let me tell you this. My brother is moving
>>back here. He wanted to get digital cable, but he asked me how much the
>>box
>>was. Once he found out how much a box was, he decided just to get basic
>>cable that way he gets cable, but yet he doesn't have to rent a box. You
>>might have a valid complaint if you needed cable. But your complaint is
>>just
>>like someone complaining that a Lexus is too expensive. Both aren't needed
>>and if you don't want to pay the price, you don't buy it.
>>
>>Dave
>
> It is true - we are getting nowhere. Let me just add that in NYC I
> need a cable box even for basic service. I subscribe for basic service
> only - when I connect cable to my cable ready TV without a cable box,
> I miss many channels and channel numbers are changed.
>
> It is a pity we met only now - if I knew America had more consumers
> like you - I would probably choose to be a salesman.
>
> Zalek

> Do you know why Time Warner charges me 10 dollars a month for a cable
> box, probably made in China and costs them a one time pament of $5?
> Because they can, because I have no other option.
> I think this situation is not good for the American consumer. Plain
> and simple!!!
>
> Zalek

>>>Well Mr. Genius, I want to convince a corporation to send me the same
>>>signal it is sending me to 2 other cables boxes I own. I want to buy a
>>>cable box from other, cheaper source. As a consumer - I think I have
>>>a right to do it. Do you think otherwise?
>
>

> I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner wants
> $10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street the same one I
> have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it says "call operator" -
> so I called.
> They told me that they will not support this box - I have to buy a box
> from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am living does not
> allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck. Here is the fax I am sending
> to my representative - if you are stuck with cable as me, please to
> the same:
>
> To representative?
>
> I am a Time Warner Cable subscriber.  I want to add cable service for
> a new television that I just purchased.  Time Warner Cable wants me to
> pay $10 per month for another box.  I just bought the same box that
> Time Warner uses for $30.  Time Warner refuses to recognize this box
> even though it is in perfect condition.
>     I live in New York City and there is no competition for Time
> Warner.  I live in a building where management does not allow us to
> have a Satelite Dish.  Please pass a law that allows consumers to
> purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
> monopoly on a service.  I plan to start a campaign on the internet
> about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
> the internet.
>
> An Angry Citizen
>
> I sent it to:
>
> Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
> New York City
> 780 Third Ave, Suite 2601
> New York, NY 10017
> Phone: (212) 688-6262
> Fax: (212) 688-7444
>
> Senator Charles E. "Chuck" Schumer
> New York City
> 757 Third Avenue, Suite 17-02
> New York, NY 10017
> Phone: 212-486-4430
> Fax: 212-486-7693
>
> Representative Gary L. Ackerman (D - 05)
> Phone: 202-225-2601        fax: 202-225-1589
> http://www.house.gov/ackerman/pages/contact.html
> District Office:
> 218-14 Northern Boulevard
> Bayside, NY 11361-3580
> Voice: 718-423-2154    FAX: 718-423-5053
>
>
> Representative Anthony Weiner (D - 09)
> Phone: 202-225-6616   fax: 202-226-7253
> Email: wei***@mail.house.gov

> Zalek Bloom wrote:
> > I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner wants
> > $10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street the same one I
> > have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it says "call operator" -
> > so I called.
> > They told me that they will not support this box - I have to buy a box
> > from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am living does not
> > allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck. Here is the fax I am sending
> > to my representative - if you are stuck with cable as me, please to
> > the same:
> >
> > To representative?
> >
> > I am a Time Warner Cable subscriber.  I want to add cable service for
> > a new television that I just purchased.  Time Warner Cable wants me to
> > pay $10 per month for another box.  I just bought the same box that
> > Time Warner uses for $30.  Time Warner refuses to recognize this box
> > even though it is in perfect condition.
> >     I live in New York City and there is no competition for Time
> > Warner.  I live in a building where management does not allow us to
> > have a Satelite Dish.  Please pass a law that allows consumers to
> > purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
> > monopoly on a service.  I plan to start a campaign on the internet
> > about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
> > the internet.
> >
> > An Angry Citizen
> >
> > I sent it to:
> >
> > Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
> > New York City
> > 780 Third Ave, Suite 2601
> > New York, NY 10017
> > Phone: (212) 688-6262
> > Fax: (212) 688-7444
> >
> > Senator Charles E. "Chuck" Schumer
> > New York City
> > 757 Third Avenue, Suite 17-02
> > New York, NY 10017
> > Phone: 212-486-4430
> > Fax: 212-486-7693
> >
> > Representative Gary L. Ackerman (D - 05)
> > Phone: 202-225-2601        fax: 202-225-1589
> > http://www.house.gov/ackerman/pages/contact.html
> > District Office:
> > 218-14 Northern Boulevard
> > Bayside, NY 11361-3580
> > Voice: 718-423-2154    FAX: 718-423-5053
> >
> >
> > Representative Anthony Weiner (D - 09)
> > Phone: 202-225-6616   fax: 202-226-7253
> > Email: wei***@mail.house.gov
>
> Zalek,
>
> This seems to have turned into a pissing match between lots of people.
> I'm not taking sides so much as trying to explain why <I think> you
> shouldn't expect to be able to do what you want to do, although if
> you're as hard headed as I am, I probably won't succeed.
>
> There may be many unfair things about capitalism, but it's the only
> legitamate (emphasis on legitimate) game in town. I also prefer
> capitalism even with it's downfalls, to other economies worldwide that
> I'm aware of.

>
> ie:
> I can download and burn cd's of music off of the internet, but if I
> don't pay the artist the royalty that they are due, then I've broken
> the law. Likewise, "buying" a box doesn't entitle you to view cable
> channels without paying the cable company what they want, and they
> aren't obligated to authorize your box so that you can. They (the cable
> companies) have <so far> been better able to control access to their
> product than the music industry has. HBO was able to be viewed for free
> back in the 80's if you purchased a satellite dish ....... until they
> scrambled their signal and forced the use of  decipher equipment
> (pissed off a lot of people that had laid out money for a satellite
> dish for that purpose).
>
> I was apparently viewed as a smart ass with my earlier examples ....
> that was not my intention, I apologise and yes, I am a cable employee.
> I like my career because it's intellectually challenging, I meet lot's
> of interesting (usually) friendly people, and I can make a living doing
> it, not because I support huge conglomerates.
>
> I've never been to NYC, and have no desire to do so (WAY too many
> people in one place for me), but what I meant by moving to a "rural"
> location might be out to the *burbs* where building codes aren't so
> severe? That may not be an option for you, and if so, I feel bad for
> you, but I think it unlikely that you'll change "the system".
>
> good luck

> In article <1166663457.383927.19***@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>,
>  "zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am pissed off that I have no choice to choose my cable provider and
> > the only cable provider charges me $10/month for each cable box.
>
> You sound like every other whining loser in the world.
>
> If you don't like your situation, change it.
>
> Start with MOVING.
>
> Oh, but no--you want to sit on your fat butt and have the world change
> around YOU to YOUR liking.
>
> f*ck you.

> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> > In article <1166663457.383927.19***@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>,
> >  "zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I am pissed off that I have no choice to choose my cable provider and
> > > the only cable provider charges me $10/month for each cable box.
> >
> > You sound like every other whining loser in the world.
> >
> > If you don't like your situation, change it.
> >
> > Start with MOVING.
> >
> > Oh, but no--you want to sit on your fat butt and have the world change
> > around YOU to YOUR liking.
> >
> > f*ck you.
>
> Elmo,
>
> I am realy sorry for trying to reduce price Time Warner is charging me
> for this cheap box. Don't feel sorry for Time Warner - you have right
> to pay them any price they want.
> I just got news that Verizon got into cable TV and maybe they will
> enter my area. If they are cheaper - I will switch, but to recompansate
> Time Warner you should order extra services from them.
>
> All the best to you and to your firend Time Warner,
>
> Zalek

news:1166705623.412339.280380@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com
> zalek wrote:
> > Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> > > In article
> > >  <1166663457.383927.19***@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>, "zalek"
> > > <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am pissed off that I have no choice to choose my cable
> > > > provider and the only cable provider charges me $10/month for
> > > > each cable box.
> > >
> > > You sound like every other whining loser in the world.
> > >
> > > If you don't like your situation, change it.
> > >
> > > Start with MOVING.
> > >
> > > Oh, but no--you want to sit on your fat butt and have the world
> > > change around YOU to YOUR liking.
> > >
> > > f*ck you.
> >
> > Elmo,
> >
> > I am realy sorry for trying to reduce price Time Warner is
> > charging me for this cheap box. Don't feel sorry for Time Warner
> > - you have right to pay them any price they want.
> > I just got news that Verizon got into cable TV and maybe they will
> > enter my area. If they are cheaper - I will switch, but to
> > recompansate Time Warner you should order extra services from
> > them.
> >
> > All the best to you and to your firend Time Warner,
> >
> > Zalek
>
> What if Verizon doesn't authorize your stolen box? Are you going to
> complain about them, too? I can almost guarantee that they won't.
> Apparently you don't have much to worry about in life. I find it
> hard to believe someone would spend so much time on something this
> stupid. Even if you went as far as pursuing this legally, by the
> time it was over, you could probably pay my cable bill for the next
> 5-6 years at least.
>
> Dave

> <dmora***@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:1166705623.412339.280380@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com
>> zalek wrote:
>> > Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>> > > In article
>> > >  <1166663457.383927.19***@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>, "zalek"
>> > > <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I am pissed off that I have no choice to choose my cable
>> > > > provider and the only cable provider charges me $10/month for
>> > > > each cable box.
>> > >
>> > > You sound like every other whining loser in the world.
>> > >
>> > > If you don't like your situation, change it.
>> > >
>> > > Start with MOVING.
>> > >
>> > > Oh, but no--you want to sit on your fat butt and have the world
>> > > change around YOU to YOUR liking.
>> > >
>> > > f*ck you.
>> >
>> > Elmo,
>> >
>> > I am realy sorry for trying to reduce price Time Warner is
>> > charging me for this cheap box. Don't feel sorry for Time Warner
>> > - you have right to pay them any price they want.
>> > I just got news that Verizon got into cable TV and maybe they will
>> > enter my area. If they are cheaper - I will switch, but to
>> > recompansate Time Warner you should order extra services from
>> > them.
>> >
>> > All the best to you and to your firend Time Warner,
>> >
>> > Zalek
>>
>> What if Verizon doesn't authorize your stolen box? Are you going to
>> complain about them, too? I can almost guarantee that they won't.
>> Apparently you don't have much to worry about in life. I find it
>> hard to believe someone would spend so much time on something this
>> stupid. Even if you went as far as pursuing this legally, by the
>> time it was over, you could probably pay my cable bill for the next
>> 5-6 years at least.
>>
>> Dave
>
> Verizon delivers their cable TV differently (fiber optic) than other
> cable providers.
>

> zalek wrote:
> > Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> > > In article <1166663457.383927.19***@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>,
> > >  "zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am pissed off that I have no choice to choose my cable provider and
> > > > the only cable provider charges me $10/month for each cable box.
> > >
> > > You sound like every other whining loser in the world.
> > >
> > > If you don't like your situation, change it.
> > >
> > > Start with MOVING.
> > >
> > > Oh, but no--you want to sit on your fat butt and have the world change
> > > around YOU to YOUR liking.
> > >
> > > f*ck you.
> >
> > Elmo,
> >
> > I am realy sorry for trying to reduce price Time Warner is charging me
> > for this cheap box. Don't feel sorry for Time Warner - you have right
> > to pay them any price they want.
> > I just got news that Verizon got into cable TV and maybe they will
> > enter my area. If they are cheaper - I will switch, but to recompansate
> > Time Warner you should order extra services from them.
> >
> > All the best to you and to your firend Time Warner,
> >
> > Zalek
>
> What if Verizon doesn't authorize your stolen box? Are you going to
> complain about them, too? I can almost guarantee that they won't.
> Apparently you don't have much to worry about in life. I find it hard
> to believe someone would spend so much time on something this stupid.
> Even if you went as far as pursuing this legally, by the time it was
> over, you could probably pay my cable bill for the next 5-6 years at
> least.
>
> Dave

> dmora***@cox.net wrote:
> > zalek wrote:
> > > Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> > > > In article <1166663457.383927.19***@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>,
> > > >  "zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am pissed off that I have no choice to choose my cable provider and
> > > > > the only cable provider charges me $10/month for each cable box.
> > > >
> > > > You sound like every other whining loser in the world.
> > > >
> > > > If you don't like your situation, change it.
> > > >
> > > > Start with MOVING.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, but no--you want to sit on your fat butt and have the world change
> > > > around YOU to YOUR liking.
> > > >
> > > > f*ck you.
> > >
> > > Elmo,
> > >
> > > I am realy sorry for trying to reduce price Time Warner is charging me
> > > for this cheap box. Don't feel sorry for Time Warner - you have right
> > > to pay them any price they want.
> > > I just got news that Verizon got into cable TV and maybe they will
> > > enter my area. If they are cheaper - I will switch, but to recompansate
> > > Time Warner you should order extra services from them.
> > >
> > > All the best to you and to your firend Time Warner,
> > >
> > > Zalek
> >
> > What if Verizon doesn't authorize your stolen box? Are you going to
> > complain about them, too? I can almost guarantee that they won't.
> > Apparently you don't have much to worry about in life. I find it hard
> > to believe someone would spend so much time on something this stupid.
> > Even if you went as far as pursuing this legally, by the time it was
> > over, you could probably pay my cable bill for the next 5-6 years at
> > least.
> >
> > Dave
>
> Dave,
>
> Are you a superdetective of a prophet? Time Warner have all my
> information including the box info and they didn't call it
> "stolen". How about solving first who killed JFK before deciding
> that the box is stolen?
> Anyway, I don't plan to sue Time Warner - I received an official
> letter from TW where they stated that they don't plan to supply
> services to anyone that did not purchase equipment from them - I will
> pass this letter to FCC and my representatives.
> If Verizon will offer better prices (as they promiss) - TW will loose
> another customer, but don't worry - to recompensate them you could
> always lease from TW 10 cable boxes.
>
> Zalek

> zalek wrote:
> > dmora***@cox.net wrote:
> > > zalek wrote:
> > > > Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> > > > > In article <1166663457.383927.19***@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > >  "zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I am pissed off that I have no choice to choose my cable provider and
> > > > > > the only cable provider charges me $10/month for each cable box.
> > > > >
> > > > > You sound like every other whining loser in the world.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you don't like your situation, change it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Start with MOVING.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, but no--you want to sit on your fat butt and have the world change
> > > > > around YOU to YOUR liking.
> > > > >
> > > > > f*ck you.
> > > >
> > > > Elmo,
> > > >
> > > > I am realy sorry for trying to reduce price Time Warner is charging me
> > > > for this cheap box. Don't feel sorry for Time Warner - you have right
> > > > to pay them any price they want.
> > > > I just got news that Verizon got into cable TV and maybe they will
> > > > enter my area. If they are cheaper - I will switch, but to recompansate
> > > > Time Warner you should order extra services from them.
> > > >
> > > > All the best to you and to your firend Time Warner,
> > > >
> > > > Zalek
> > >
> > > What if Verizon doesn't authorize your stolen box? Are you going to
> > > complain about them, too? I can almost guarantee that they won't.
> > > Apparently you don't have much to worry about in life. I find it hard
> > > to believe someone would spend so much time on something this stupid.
> > > Even if you went as far as pursuing this legally, by the time it was
> > > over, you could probably pay my cable bill for the next 5-6 years at
> > > least.
> > >
> > > Dave
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > Are you a superdetective of a prophet? Time Warner have all my
> > information including the box info and they didn't call it
> > "stolen". How about solving first who killed JFK before deciding
> > that the box is stolen?
> > Anyway, I don't plan to sue Time Warner - I received an official
> > letter from TW where they stated that they don't plan to supply
> > services to anyone that did not purchase equipment from them - I will
> > pass this letter to FCC and my representatives.
> > If Verizon will offer better prices (as they promiss) - TW will loose
> > another customer, but don't worry - to recompensate them you could
> > always lease from TW 10 cable boxes.
> >
> > Zalek
>
> I don't have TW, my cable is through Cox. I'm not employed by the cable
> industry BTW. I am a Mathematician by profession.
>
> Dave

> Are you a superdetective of a prophet? Time Warner have all my
> information including the box info and they didn't call it
> "stolen". How about solving first who killed JFK before deciding
> that the box is stolen?

> I am realy sorry for trying to reduce price Time Warner is charging me
> for this cheap box. Don't feel sorry for Time Warner - you have right
> to pay them any price they want.
> I just got news that Verizon got into cable TV and maybe they will
> enter my area. If they are cheaper - I will switch, but to recompansate
> Time Warner you should order extra services from them.
>
> All the best to you and to your firend Time Warner,
>
> Zalek
>

> "Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:k7jpn29sotmbogq0kmbslt9hnp8s44pi1c@4ax.com...
> >I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner wants
> > $10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street the same one I
> > have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it says "call operator" -
> > so I called.
> > They told me that they will not support this box - I have to buy a box
> > from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am living does not
> > allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck.
> >
> >
> Don't know about your area, but in Seattle at least, there is legislation
> that says apartments and condo associations can't disallow dish/directv
> service to your unit, even if it means that the building has to install a
> dish on the roof at their own expense.

"zalek" <ZalekBl***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166664924.257040.227410@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com
> khee mao wrote:
> > "Zalek Bloom" <ZalekBl***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:k7jpn29sotmbogq0kmbslt9hnp8s44pi1c@4ax.com...
> > > I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner
> > > wants $10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street
> > > the same one I have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it
> > > says "call operator" - so I called.
> > > They told me that they will not support this box - I have to
> > > buy a box from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am
> > > living does not allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck.
> > >
> > >
> > Don't know about your area, but in Seattle at least, there is
> > legislation that says apartments and condo associations can't
> > disallow dish/directv service to your unit, even if it means that
> > the building has to install a dish on the roof at their own
> > expense.
>
> I live in coop - in NYC owner of the coop have a right to forbid
> installing dishes on the roof - im my coop most of appartmnent
> belong to a landlord - and forbid installing dishes.
>
> Zalek