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copying 16mm silent home movies to dvd
home movies to dvd. I don't have access yet to the projector and films, and won't until I make the long trip to visit the relative who has it, so my plans are tentative. My thought is to remove the lens from the projector, remove the projector bulb and replace it with a blue lcd, or maybe a standard incandescent bulb, and then focus in closely enough to fill the frame with the movie that is being run through the projector. Assuming I can focus closely enough, will this work? Will there be scanning lines or other artifacts? My tests with the camera here indicate it will focus closely enough, but it has to be held very closely to the object. Since I don't know the physical shape of the projector, I don't know if I can get the lens close enough to the film. Anonyma wrote:
> then focus in closely enough to fill the frame with the movie The main artifact is probably going to be flicker due to scan rate> that is being run through the projector. > > Assuming I can focus closely enough, will this work? Will there be > scanning lines or other artifacts? mismatch. And of course the image will be left/right reversed. Rather than try to focus so close, why not show the picture on a white paper and record as close to on axis as you can? Dave On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:57:33 -0700, davesvi***@aol.com wrote:
> Anonyma wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. I assumed I would get a clearer picture if I>> then focus in closely enough to fill the frame with the movie >> that is being run through the projector. >> >> Assuming I can focus closely enough, will this work? Will there be >> scanning lines or other artifacts? > > The main artifact is probably going to be flicker due to scan rate > mismatch. And of course the image will be left/right reversed. Rather > than try to focus so close, why not show the picture on a white paper > and record as close to on axis as you can? > > Dave photographed the film itself, if I could focus it properly, rather that a projection of it. But if there isn't any noticeable difference, photographing the projection would be a heck of a lot easier. As far as being off-axis, maybe I could tilt the paper the same amount that I'm off access. Would that work? There is a prosumer machine that shines a light on the film
and allows frame-by-frame transfer to computer: www.moviestuff.tv Anonyma <anon***@deuxpi.ca> wrote: Show quoteHide quote : On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:57:33 -0700, davesvi***@aol.com wrote: : > Anonyma wrote: : >> then focus in closely enough to fill the frame with the movie : >> that is being run through the projector. : >> : >> Assuming I can focus closely enough, will this work? Will there be : >> scanning lines or other artifacts? : > : > The main artifact is probably going to be flicker due to scan rate : > mismatch. And of course the image will be left/right reversed. Rather : > than try to focus so close, why not show the picture on a white paper : > and record as close to on axis as you can? : > : > Dave : Thanks for the suggestion. I assumed I would get a clearer picture if I : photographed the film itself, if I could focus it properly, rather : that a projection of it. But if there isn't any noticeable difference, : photographing the projection would be a heck of a lot easier. As far as : being off-axis, maybe I could tilt the paper the same amount that I'm off : access. Would that work? On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:46:54 -0400 (EDT), Anonyma
<anon-boun***@deuxpi.ca> wrote: >My thought is to remove the lens from the projector, remove the projector Yes, it can work. There is at least one commercially available>bulb and replace it with a blue lcd, or maybe a standard incandescent >bulb, and then focus in closely enough to fill the frame with the movie >that is being run through the projector. > >Assuming I can focus closely enough, will this work? Will there be >scanning lines or other artifacts? telecine that works this way, as well as this DIY version: http://homepage.mac.com/onsuper8/diytelecine/
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? "Scott en Aztlán" <scottenazt***@yahoo.com> ?????? ??? ?????? Thanks a lot for the link.Quite an interesting project.Utterly complicatednews:2j8ch2peslvi2fgdembqgefvvcbna0neaf@4ax.com... > On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:46:54 -0400 (EDT), Anonyma > <anon-boun***@deuxpi.ca> wrote: > > >My thought is to remove the lens from the projector, remove the projector > >bulb and replace it with a blue lcd, or maybe a standard incandescent > >bulb, and then focus in closely enough to fill the frame with the movie > >that is being run through the projector. > > > >Assuming I can focus closely enough, will this work? Will there be > >scanning lines or other artifacts? > > Yes, it can work. There is at least one commercially available > telecine that works this way, as well as this DIY version: > > http://homepage.mac.com/onsuper8/diytelecine/ though, and needs a working variable speed projector:-)I don't know if I'd do something, had I super 8 films, but since I haven't got any... -- Tzortzakakis Dimitrios major in electrical engineering,freelance electrician mechanized infantry reservist dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:23:25 +0300, "Tzortzakakis Dimitrios"
<dimtz***@otenet.gr> wrote: >> >Assuming I can focus closely enough, will this work? Will there be Here's another interesting DIY approach:>> >scanning lines or other artifacts? >> >> Yes, it can work. There is at least one commercially available >> telecine that works this way, as well as this DIY version: >> >> http://homepage.mac.com/onsuper8/diytelecine/ > >Thanks a lot for the link.Quite an interesting project.Utterly complicated >though, and needs a working variable speed projector:-)I don't know if I'd >do something, had I super 8 films, but since I haven't got any... http://truetex.com/telecine.htm The page apparently hasn't been updated in a while, as there are now lots of inexpensive flatbed scanners that are capable of 2400dpi and have a backlight for scanning transparent film. This method will be dog slow, but should result in outstanding picture quality. 
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