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Help: transferring a Powerpoint pres. to Video (DVD)

Author
16 Aug 2006 8:27 PM
Sailor
Hello, I just had a prospective client ask if I would be able to transfer a
powerpoint slideshow (that consists of 315 photos, along with music)to
DVD... Well, I was wondering if there is a way to streamline the process.

My initial thought after looking at Powerpoint's "save as" capabilities was
that she could give me the photos digitally (arranged in order, which she
has done)and I could put them in Premiere and also put the music in...

Is this the best way to do it or is there a better way...

Thanks,
Sailor

Author
16 Aug 2006 8:41 PM
Larry in AZ
Waiving the right to remain silent, Sailor <l***@sea.com> said:

> Hello, I just had a prospective client ask if I would be able to
> transfer a powerpoint slideshow (that consists of 315 photos, along with
> music)to DVD... Well, I was wondering if there is a way to streamline
> the process.
>
> My initial thought after looking at Powerpoint's "save as" capabilities
> was that she could give me the photos digitally (arranged in order,
> which she has done)and I could put them in Premiere and also put the
> music in...
>
> Is this the best way to do it or is there a better way...

Play it out as a Powerpoint presentation directly to your video recording
device (presumably a stand alone DVD recorder) using a good scan converter. 
All in real time, no file conversions or maniulation, etc.

If the music is embedded, then you'll get that also.

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Author
16 Aug 2006 8:56 PM
Larry in AZ
Waiving the right to remain silent, Larry in AZ
<usen***@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> said:

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> Waiving the right to remain silent, Sailor <l***@sea.com> said:
>
>> Hello, I just had a prospective client ask if I would be able to
>> transfer a powerpoint slideshow (that consists of 315 photos, along
>> with music)to DVD... Well, I was wondering if there is a way to
>> streamline the process.
>>
>> My initial thought after looking at Powerpoint's "save as" capabilities
>> was that she could give me the photos digitally (arranged in order,
>> which she has done)and I could put them in Premiere and also put the
>> music in...
>>
>> Is this the best way to do it or is there a better way...
>
> Play it out as a Powerpoint presentation directly to your video
> recording device (presumably a stand alone DVD recorder) using a good
> scan converter.  All in real time, no file conversions or maniulation,
> etc.
>
> If the music is embedded, then you'll get that also.

....and what David said about the use of too small fonts.  You may need to
make some changes in the slides.

The upside of this is that you'll be able to see the problems immediately
and fix them.

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Author
16 Aug 2006 8:57 PM
P.C. Ford
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:41:11 GMT, Larry in AZ
<usen***@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote:

>Waiving the right to remain silent, Sailor <l***@sea.com> said:
>
>> Hello, I just had a prospective client ask if I would be able to
>> transfer a powerpoint slideshow (that consists of 315 photos, along with
>> music)to DVD... Well, I was wondering if there is a way to streamline
>> the process.
>>
>> My initial thought after looking at Powerpoint's "save as" capabilities
>> was that she could give me the photos digitally (arranged in order,
>> which she has done)and I could put them in Premiere and also put the
>> music in...
>>
>> Is this the best way to do it or is there a better way...

I did this last fall....the answer and it is a correct one is don't do
it. Creat a whole new project that is native in video.

But if that is not possible......

We did the scan conversion route using a good Sony scan converter.
Results were blurry and muddy.
Ended up using camtasia. It's around $300 but there is a 30 trial.

Good luck.....
Author
16 Aug 2006 10:16 PM
olushola
Why not just save each file as a jpeg or bmp as a picture file, then import them into a video editor.
Author
16 Aug 2006 10:20 PM
Larry in AZ
Waiving the right to remain silent, "olushola" <olush***@tampabay.rr.com>
said:

> Why not just save each file as a jpeg or bmp as a picture file, then
> import them into a video editor.

That won't work with Powerpoint builds.

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Author
16 Aug 2006 10:32 PM
olushola
I meant save each slide as a picture file. If that does not work, then use a screen capture program.
Author
16 Aug 2006 11:49 PM
Richard Crowley
"olushola"  wrote ...
>I meant save each slide as a picture file. If that does not work, then use
>a screen capture program.

But you can't save slides as "picture files" (or with screen capture)
if they have animation/special effects.

I thought there was some way to save PPT presentations directly to
video?  Windows Media Encoder?
Author
17 Aug 2006 12:19 AM
P.C. Ford
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:49:27 -0700, "Richard Crowley"
<richard.7.crow***@intel.com> wrote:

>"olushola"  wrote ...
>>I meant save each slide as a picture file. If that does not work, then use
>>a screen capture program.
>
>But you can't save slides as "picture files" (or with screen capture)
>if they have animation/special effects.
>
>I thought there was some way to save PPT presentations directly to
>video?  Windows Media Encoder?

You have to 1. scan convert 2. use Camtasia The latter is better. As
has already been mentioned it, your text should be larger than 24
point. Smaller and you can get into problems. All in all, you should
avoid doing conversion if it is possible.

We got away with it, but it ain't the way to go. But corporations love
PowerPoint.
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Author
17 Aug 2006 4:51 AM
Ken Maltby
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> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:49:27 -0700, "Richard Crowley"
> <richard.7.crow***@intel.com> wrote:
>
>>"olushola"  wrote ...
>>>I meant save each slide as a picture file. If that does not work, then
>>>use
>>>a screen capture program.
>>
>>But you can't save slides as "picture files" (or with screen capture)
>>if they have animation/special effects.
>>
>>I thought there was some way to save PPT presentations directly to
>>video?  Windows Media Encoder?
>
> You have to 1. scan convert 2. use Camtasia The latter is better. As
> has already been mentioned it, your text should be larger than 24
> point. Smaller and you can get into problems. All in all, you should
> avoid doing conversion if it is possible.
>
> We got away with it, but it ain't the way to go. But corporations love
> PowerPoint.
>>


  A simple Google for "PowerPoint to DVD" returns some programs that claim
to do what you ask, some have demos you can use to try them out.  I would
not use the one from "WonderShare" as they keep spaming NewsGroups.

Luck;
   Ken
Author
17 Aug 2006 6:58 AM
Frank
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:49:27 -0700, in 'rec.video.production',
in article <Re: Help: transferring a Powerpoint pres. to Video (DVD)>,
"Richard Crowley" <richard.7.crow***@intel.com> wrote:

>"olushola"  wrote ...
>>I meant save each slide as a picture file. If that does not work, then use
>>a screen capture program.
>
>But you can't save slides as "picture files" (or with screen capture)
>if they have animation/special effects.
>
>I thought there was some way to save PPT presentations directly to
>video?  Windows Media Encoder?


Yes, Microsoft offers a free-for-the-download product called Producer
which works with PowerPoint 2002 and PowerPoint 2003.

I suppose that if the WMV files produced were of sufficiently high
quality (WMV 9 is supported), it would be possible to transcode them
to MPEG-2 for DVD-Video use with acceptable results. I've never tried
it, so I can't say one way or the other. I note that the feature list
says that PowerPoint animations and effects are retained, which is
nice.

Here are a couple of links to more information, one on the Office site
and one on the Windows Media site.

Producer 2003 Product Information
http://www.microsoft.com/office/powerpoint/producer/prodinfo/default.mspx

Microsoft Producer for Microsoft Office PowerPoint 2003
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/technologies/producer.mspx

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Author
17 Aug 2006 9:01 AM
Teeafit
Not so sure about the Microsoft Producer advice.  I followed the links
above and as far as I can see it only outputs to an HTML file for
viewing in a browser.  That being so, you'd have to find some way of
recording the result to DVD, so why not just stick with recording the
PowerPoint in the first place?

Actually, I did this a couple of days ago for a client, with some
success.  My laptop gives a Y/C (S-video) and 3.5 audio output, so I
just recorded the output onto a DV tape, and used Avid7 to burn a DVD.
(I tried to go straight to Avid, but found some sulking issues with the
capture, and didn't have the time to mess about investigating them).
OK, so perhaps I was lucky in that the client's slides used large fonts
which didn't give any legibility problems.  I had to shrink the image a
bit to get all the important stuff in the safe area (so I just got the
slides with a small black border) but otherwise it was fine.  Maybe
just a gnats lacking in resolution compared with the PC screen, but
still acceptable.

Subject to all the cautions mentioned in earlier posts, I'm going to
encourage this client to go down the 'PP-to-DVD' route whenever
suitable.  They have safety procedures which change frequently, and
it's a pain to have to keep going back to reshoot video sections.  With
PP it's simple to replace the odd slide and voiceover file, and burn a
new DVD.  DVD is better for them because then they can play the
material in situations where a cheap DVD player is more cost-effective
than a PC loaded with MS Office.

OK, so I can't charge as much, but at the moment it's TIME I need more
than money.

GRAEME ALDOUS
Yorkshire
Author
17 Aug 2006 3:02 PM
Richard Crowley
"Teeafit" wrote ...
> Not so sure about the Microsoft Producer advice.  I followed the links
> above and as far as I can see it only outputs to an HTML file for
> viewing in a browser.

It puts out many files. The HTML file is just the one you
point viewers to. The HTML file refrences the WMV
file which should also be in the same directory. The
WMV file is standalone and independent of all the
other files which you can discard.
Author
17 Aug 2006 6:38 PM
Larry in AZ
Waiving the right to remain silent, "Richard Crowley" <rcrow***@xpr7t.net>
said:

> "Teeafit" wrote ...
>> Not so sure about the Microsoft Producer advice.  I followed the links
>> above and as far as I can see it only outputs to an HTML file for
>> viewing in a browser.
>
> It puts out many files. The HTML file is just the one you
> point viewers to. The HTML file refrences the WMV
> file which should also be in the same directory. The
> WMV file is standalone and independent of all the
> other files which you can discard.

It made no WMV file that I could find...

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Author
17 Aug 2006 9:53 PM
Larry in AZ
Waiving the right to remain silent, Larry in AZ <usenet2
@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> said:

> Waiving the right to remain silent, "Richard Crowley"
<rcrow***@xpr7t.net>
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> said:
>
>> "Teeafit" wrote ...
>>> Not so sure about the Microsoft Producer advice.  I followed the links
>>> above and as far as I can see it only outputs to an HTML file for
>>> viewing in a browser.
>>
>> It puts out many files. The HTML file is just the one you
>> point viewers to. The HTML file refrences the WMV
>> file which should also be in the same directory. The
>> WMV file is standalone and independent of all the other files which you
>> can discard.
>
> It made no WMV file that I could find...

I take that back.  When you save the project, it does create a wmv file,
but that file plays a black screen when I tried running it in Movie
Player.

Producer creates a ton of files buried in various directories.  It seems
to separate out every element in the Powerpoint presentation, and resave
them within it own directories.

It's far too complex a method of getting a PP presentation into a video
format.  Way too much junk.  Nearly impossible to transport to another
computer...

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Author
17 Aug 2006 6:37 PM
Larry in AZ
Waiving the right to remain silent, "Teeafit" <teea***@teeafit.co.uk> said:

> Not so sure about the Microsoft Producer advice.  I followed the links
> above and as far as I can see it only outputs to an HTML file for
> viewing in a browser.  That being so, you'd have to find some way of
> recording the result to DVD, so why not just stick with recording the
> PowerPoint in the first place?

I just downloaded it, tried it, and that's what I discovered.  Maybe I missed
something, but I don't see a way to create a WMV or any other type of movie
file directly.

Even the HTML file it generated played a blank window with a "skin"
substituted for my imported Powerpoint show.  MS Producer seemed to import
the Powerpoint show fine, but it never created any "video" that I could see.

I give it a resounding "F" grade.

It's also a 46.6 Mb download, so if you're on dialup, forget it.

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Author
16 Aug 2006 8:41 PM
David McCall
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"Sailor" <l***@sea.com> wrote in message
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> Hello, I just had a prospective client ask if I would be able to transfer
> a
> powerpoint slideshow (that consists of 315 photos, along with music)to
> DVD... Well, I was wondering if there is a way to streamline the process.
>
> My initial thought after looking at Powerpoint's "save as" capabilities
> was
> that she could give me the photos digitally (arranged in order, which she
> has done)and I could put them in Premiere and also put the music in...
>
> Is this the best way to do it or is there a better way...
>
> Thanks,
> Sailor
>
That is what a lot of people wind up doing. I'm not sure there is a nice way
to render PP out to a proper video file.

Beyond that, most people get really wordy in their PP presentations.
They use fonts that are too small to be readable in SD video, and they
usually allow things to get too close to the edges of the frame.
On some TVs some things will be lost unless corrected.

This is a subject that comes up a lot, so you might try google groups
to see what others have suggested.

David
Author
16 Aug 2006 9:46 PM
Alpha
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"Sailor" <l***@sea.com> wrote in message
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> Hello, I just had a prospective client ask if I would be able to transfer
> a
> powerpoint slideshow (that consists of 315 photos, along with music)to
> DVD... Well, I was wondering if there is a way to streamline the process.
>
> My initial thought after looking at Powerpoint's "save as" capabilities
> was
> that she could give me the photos digitally (arranged in order, which she
> has done)and I could put them in Premiere and also put the music in...
>
> Is this the best way to do it or is there a better way...
>
> Thanks,
> Sailor

Camtasia Studio 3.  $$.
Author
17 Aug 2006 2:29 PM
Steve Guidry
The fastest way is to just play it out to tape through a high-quality scan
converter.  We do it all the time when a client brings us a show at a live
event.

But even if you use a good scan converter (ours cost $15k - - and you dooo
get what you pay for),   the quality is less than if you did it through
premiere or avid.

Steve



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"Sailor" <l***@sea.com> wrote in message
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> Hello, I just had a prospective client ask if I would be able to transfer
> a
> powerpoint slideshow (that consists of 315 photos, along with music)to
> DVD... Well, I was wondering if there is a way to streamline the process.
>
> My initial thought after looking at Powerpoint's "save as" capabilities
> was
> that she could give me the photos digitally (arranged in order, which she
> has done)and I could put them in Premiere and also put the music in...
>
> Is this the best way to do it or is there a better way...
>
> Thanks,
> Sailor
Author
17 Aug 2006 3:27 PM
Rick Merrill
Sailor wrote:
> Hello, I just had a prospective client ask if I would be able to transfer a
> powerpoint slideshow (that consists of 315 photos, along with music)to
> DVD... Well, I was wondering if there is a way to streamline the process.
>
> My initial thought after looking at Powerpoint's "save as" capabilities was
> that she could give me the photos digitally (arranged in order, which she
> has done)and I could put them in Premiere and also put the music in...
>
> Is this the best way to do it or is there a better way...
>
> Thanks,
> Sailor


I use presentationtovideoconverter.exe  from geovid
to make mpeg files and Nero to burn the disk.
Author
17 Aug 2006 7:52 PM
Ken Maltby
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"Rick Merrill" <rick0.merrill@NOSPAM.gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sailor wrote:
>> Hello, I just had a prospective client ask if I would be able to transfer
>> a powerpoint slideshow (that consists of 315 photos, along with music)to
>> DVD... Well, I was wondering if there is a way to streamline the process.
>>
>> My initial thought after looking at Powerpoint's "save as" capabilities
>> was that she could give me the photos digitally (arranged in order, which
>> she has done)and I could put them in Premiere and also put the music
>> in...
>>
>> Is this the best way to do it or is there a better way...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sailor
>
>
> I use presentationtovideoconverter.exe  from geovid
> to make mpeg files and Nero to burn the disk.
>

  That one looked the most interesting in my Google results, how do
you think it might work with SeriousMagic Ovation?
http://www.seriousmagic.com/

Luck;
   Ken
Author
17 Aug 2006 8:54 PM
Rick Merrill
Ken Maltby wrote:
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> "Rick Merrill" <rick0.merrill@NOSPAM.gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:QdWdncfah99vF3nZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>>Sailor wrote:
>>
>>>Hello, I just had a prospective client ask if I would be able to transfer
>>>a powerpoint slideshow (that consists of 315 photos, along with music)to
>>>DVD... Well, I was wondering if there is a way to streamline the process.
>>>
>>>My initial thought after looking at Powerpoint's "save as" capabilities
>>>was that she could give me the photos digitally (arranged in order, which
>>>she has done)and I could put them in Premiere and also put the music
>>>in...
>>>
>>>Is this the best way to do it or is there a better way...
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Sailor
>>
>>
>>I use presentationtovideoconverter.exe  from geovid
>>to make mpeg files and Nero to burn the disk.
>>
>
>
>   That one looked the most interesting in my Google results, how do
> you think it might work with SeriousMagic Ovation?
> http://www.seriousmagic.com/

That would depend on whether serious-m uses powerpoint (doubtful) or
'flash' technology.
Author
17 Aug 2006 4:02 PM
PhilipScoggins
I do this on a fairly regular basis (too often actually).

The "best" / easiest way that I've found to do it is to record directly
out of the computer to your DVD burner or what every you are recording
to.  I record to MiniDV and then load it into a computer as an avi file
to edit or make DVDs from.

I'm a die hard PC user, but here is a point where if you are using a
Mac with Power Point you can output the file as a video, don't remember
if it's just Quicktime or if there are more options.  I don't use a
Mac, but I've been told this feature is available.

The quality of the finished product is dependant on the quality of your
video card and capture device and won't look as good as the original
presentation.

Philip

Sailor wrote:
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> Hello, I just had a prospective client ask if I would be able to transfer a
> powerpoint slideshow (that consists of 315 photos, along with music)to
> DVD... Well, I was wondering if there is a way to streamline the process.
>
> My initial thought after looking at Powerpoint's "save as" capabilities was
> that she could give me the photos digitally (arranged in order, which she
> has done)and I could put them in Premiere and also put the music in...
>
> Is this the best way to do it or is there a better way...
>
> Thanks,
> Sailor