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Dumbest Question of the Month (Yes/No Answer)
******************************************************************************** If you're so inclined, could you tell why you need a firewire and not a USB? IIRC, I have ports all over my ThinkPad; I just want to understand the difference between these two transfer mechanisms (I've already read www.pcguide.com). <mute***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1150543722.833973.58710@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... Yes, if you want high-quality video.> Do you absolutely need a firewire to download video to a computer? > Because camcorder manufacturers seized on the 1394/Firewire standard before > ******************************************************************************** > > If you're so inclined, could you tell why you need a firewire and not a > USB? USB 2.0 was introduced, and USB 1.1 wasn't fast enough, and it has remained the standard for video transfer. Show quoteHide quote > IIRC, I have ports all over my ThinkPad; I just want to > understand the difference between these two transfer mechanisms (I've > already read www.pcguide.com). > mute***@yahoo.com wrote in
news:1150543722.833973.58710@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: No> Do you absolutely need a firewire to download video to a computer? > If you're so inclined, could you tell why you need a firewire and not You're missing the fact that you can do analogue transfer provided you > a USB? IIRC, I have ports all over my ThinkPad; I just want to > understand the difference between these two transfer mechanisms (I've > already read www.pcguide.com). have the right hardware. Regards -- Muss ich eigentlich jedesmal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase, vorher den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben? http://www.wschwanke.de/ usenet_20031215 (AT) wschwanke (DOT) de
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"Wolfgang Schwanke" <see@sig.nature> wrote in message There's no such thing as "analogue transfer." There is analog _capture_, news:cpb17e.cg.ln@wschwanke.de... > mute***@yahoo.com wrote in > news:1150543722.833973.58710@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > >> Do you absolutely need a firewire to download video to a computer? > > No > >> If you're so inclined, could you tell why you need a firewire and not >> a USB? IIRC, I have ports all over my ThinkPad; I just want to >> understand the difference between these two transfer mechanisms (I've >> already read www.pcguide.com). > > You're missing the fact that you can do analogue transfer provided you > have the right hardware. which is not at all the same thing as digital transfer of video. You want to introduce an additional analog/digital conversion which will adversely effect video quality. Show quoteHide quote > > Regards > > -- > Muss ich eigentlich jedesmal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase, > vorher den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben? > > http://www.wschwanke.de/ usenet_20031215 (AT) wschwanke (DOT) de
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"PTravel" <ptra***@ruyitang.com> wrote in You're putting meanings into my words that aren't there. This is just a news:4fjgosF1j6g2cU1@individual.net: >>> Do you absolutely need a firewire to download video to a computer? >> >> No >> >>> If you're so inclined, could you tell why you need a firewire and >>> not a USB? IIRC, I have ports all over my ThinkPad; I just want to >>> understand the difference between these two transfer mechanisms >>> (I've already read www.pcguide.com). >> >> You're missing the fact that you can do analogue transfer provided >> you have the right hardware. > > There's no such thing as "analogue transfer." There is analog > _capture_, which is not at all the same thing as digital transfer of > video. usenet posting with accordingly sloppy wording. You don't need to teach me that you need A/D conversion to transfer analogue video into a computer. I've been working with framegrabbers much longer than you probably have. > You want to introduce an additional analog/digital conversion I was merely answering the OP's question. He asked if firewire was his > which will adversely effect video quality. only option, and the answer is clearly no, and stated one other that exists. If it's recommendable or not is a different question, but he didn't ask that one. Regards
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"Wolfgang Schwanke" <see@sig.nature> wrote in message I have no idea of you know and don't know. Your response to the OP was news:4vj47e.bg.ln@wschwanke.de... > "PTravel" <ptra***@ruyitang.com> wrote in > news:4fjgosF1j6g2cU1@individual.net: > >>>> Do you absolutely need a firewire to download video to a computer? >>> >>> No >>> >>>> If you're so inclined, could you tell why you need a firewire and >>>> not a USB? IIRC, I have ports all over my ThinkPad; I just want to >>>> understand the difference between these two transfer mechanisms >>>> (I've already read www.pcguide.com). >>> >>> You're missing the fact that you can do analogue transfer provided >>> you have the right hardware. >> >> There's no such thing as "analogue transfer." There is analog >> _capture_, which is not at all the same thing as digital transfer of >> video. > > You're putting meanings into my words that aren't there. This is just a > usenet posting with accordingly sloppy wording. You don't need to teach > me that you need A/D conversion to transfer analogue video into a > computer. I've been working with framegrabbers much longer than you > probably have. misleading, so I corrected it. > The OP said, "I just want to understand the difference between these two >> You want to introduce an additional analog/digital conversion >> which will adversely effect video quality. > > I was merely answering the OP's question. He asked if firewire was his > only option, and the answer is clearly no, and stated one other that > exists. If it's recommendable or not is a different question, but he > didn't ask that one. (USB and 1394) transfer mechanisms." Do you really think your post answered his question? Show quoteHide quote > > Regards > > -- > Ceci n'est pas un e-mail. > > http://www.wschwanke.de/ usenet_20031215 (AT) wschwanke (DOT) de
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? "Wolfgang Schwanke" <see@sig.nature> ???a?e st? µ???µa Also, das könnte man auch mit einem alten acht-millimeter Kamera machen,news:cpb17e.cg.ln@wschwanke.de... > mute***@yahoo.com wrote in > news:1150543722.833973.58710@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > > > Do you absolutely need a firewire to download video to a computer? > > No > > > If you're so inclined, could you tell why you need a firewire and not > > a USB? IIRC, I have ports all over my ThinkPad; I just want to > > understand the difference between these two transfer mechanisms (I've > > already read www.pcguide.com). > > You're missing the fact that you can do analogue transfer provided you > have the right hardware. > > Regards > oder?Viel einfacher wäre aber, wenn man per firewire und ein neues mini Dv camcorder dies machen sollte? Show quoteHide quote > -- Tzortzakakis Dimitrios major in electrical engineering,freelance electrician 542nd mechanized infantry batallion dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr mute***@yahoo.com writes:
>Do you absolutely need a firewire to download video to a computer? No. As a counterexample, the Canon Optura 60 will stream DV25 videofrom the tape to a computer over its USB2 port. But that requires you to be running Windows XP, and install a special driver, and have an Optura 60. On the other hand, install a Firewire port in just about any PC or Mac (if it doesn't already have one) and just about any DV camera will transfer video digitally to your PC. Dave Dave Martindale wrote:
> mute***@yahoo.com writes: Well, I'm running XP, and I remember when I got this new laptop, people> >Do you absolutely need a firewire to download video to a computer? > > No. As a counterexample, the Canon Optura 60 will stream DV25 video > from the tape to a computer over its USB2 port. > > But that requires you to be running Windows XP, and install a special > driver, and have an Optura 60. On the other hand, install a Firewire > port in just about any PC or Mac (if it doesn't already have one) and > just about any DV camera will transfer video digitally to your PC. saying that with XP you could do everything but fry eggs on it. I'm winning a bid on an older 3CCD camcorder on Ebay. Wish me luck. If you fry eggs under Windows XP make sure you have the latest
security updates, or you'll be susceptible to the bird flu virus. mute***@yahoo.com wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Well, I'm running XP, and I remember when I got this new laptop, people > saying that with XP you could do everything but fry eggs on it. I'm > winning a bid on an older 3CCD camcorder on Ebay. Wish me luck. > *Technically*, XP with SP2 supports DV over USB but not much equipment
exists that does it. A Firewire card for your Thinkpad is the way to go. $50 or so. You'll get a truly plug-and-play experience - plug in the card, attached the Firewire cable from the camcorder to the card and that's that. Make sure you get a Firewire cable! Many Firewire cards come with one. -- Show quoteHide quoteJohn Miller http://www.enosoft.net/ high performance tools for music and video <mute***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1150657888.653903.63640@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Dave Martindale wrote: >> mute***@yahoo.com writes: >> >Do you absolutely need a firewire to download video to a computer? >> >> No. As a counterexample, the Canon Optura 60 will stream DV25 video >> from the tape to a computer over its USB2 port. >> >> But that requires you to be running Windows XP, and install a special >> driver, and have an Optura 60. On the other hand, install a Firewire >> port in just about any PC or Mac (if it doesn't already have one) and >> just about any DV camera will transfer video digitally to your PC. > > Well, I'm running XP, and I remember when I got this new laptop, people > saying that with XP you could do everything but fry eggs on it. I'm > winning a bid on an older 3CCD camcorder on Ebay. Wish me luck. > mute***@yahoo.com wrote:
> I'll have mine over-easy.... : >> Well, I'm running XP, and I remember when I got this new laptop, people > saying that with XP you could do everything but fry eggs on it. I'm > winning a bid on an older 3CCD camcorder on Ebay. Wish me luck. I hope it isn't one of the Panasonic camcorders with the different firewire interface. Craig http://www.pro-tape.com
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