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Author
30 May 2006 9:22 PM
dorancat
I have a Panasonic SuperFlat CT32SF36 TV, bought it back in 1998.
It has worked great all these years, never needed service, nothing.

Lately, in the past 6 months, I've noticed that when playing my Xbox,
in areas of high contrast (i.e. bright areas especially near the top
and bottom of the picture) that the screen will warp and press in
near the high contrast area.  It looks trapezoidal, with the small
base along the top of the picture.  I had noticed this problem when
playing DVD's from my Pioneer DVD player.  Both these units are hooked
into the S-Video inputs on my TV.

And now more recently, some of the stuff from my Xbox is causing the
left and right sides of the picture to squeeze and, how should I say,
warble (?).  It doesn't stay for the entire session, it just appears
when there is this bright area near the top or sides.  Lots of time
the picture appears just fine.

At first I thought this was due to the S-Video inputs somehow, but I
just hooked my Xbox into my TV using the RCA composite inputs, and
there is still the "warbling".

So, is my TV slowly crapping out?  Can it be fixed?  I know its
not the newest model out there, but I would like to keep using
it for a while.

Any advice?  Is this something a TV tube will do over time....like
the way they say that "hearing is always the first to go on a person",
do they say that "high contrast warbling is the first to happen to
a TV"?


Thanks for any help,
Doran

Author
31 May 2006 2:36 AM
Gene E. Bloch
On 5/30/2006, dorancat posted this:
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> I have a Panasonic SuperFlat CT32SF36 TV, bought it back in 1998.
> It has worked great all these years, never needed service, nothing.
>
> Lately, in the past 6 months, I've noticed that when playing my Xbox,
> in areas of high contrast (i.e. bright areas especially near the top
> and bottom of the picture) that the screen will warp and press in
> near the high contrast area.  It looks trapezoidal, with the small
> base along the top of the picture.  I had noticed this problem when
> playing DVD's from my Pioneer DVD player.  Both these units are hooked
> into the S-Video inputs on my TV.
>
> And now more recently, some of the stuff from my Xbox is causing the
> left and right sides of the picture to squeeze and, how should I say,
> warble (?).  It doesn't stay for the entire session, it just appears
> when there is this bright area near the top or sides.  Lots of time
> the picture appears just fine.
>
> At first I thought this was due to the S-Video inputs somehow, but I
> just hooked my Xbox into my TV using the RCA composite inputs, and
> there is still the "warbling".
>
> So, is my TV slowly crapping out?  Can it be fixed?  I know its
> not the newest model out there, but I would like to keep using
> it for a while.
>
> Any advice?  Is this something a TV tube will do over time....like
> the way they say that "hearing is always the first to go on a person",
> do they say that "high contrast warbling is the first to happen to
> a TV"?
>
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Doran

It seems to be crapping out, and it might be too expensive to fix.

My guess is that the power supply is weakening, so that when there are
strong signals in the picture (like bright areas), there's not enough
juice to power the deflection circuits (which need a lot of power), so
the sweep amplitude is too small while that's going on.

You might be able to learn about the cost from a repair shop, if
there's a decent one in your neighborhood. He might not agree with my
diagnosis, either (that's because he is more likely be right!).

There are other failure modes, so no, warbling might not be the first
symptom. As I recall, when my older TV failed, the first symptom was a
complete loss of functionality.

Gino

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Author
31 May 2006 3:55 PM
Mike S.
In article <1149023127.047050.48***@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
dorancat <doran***@gmail.com> wrote:
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>I have a Panasonic SuperFlat CT32SF36 TV, bought it back in 1998.
>It has worked great all these years, never needed service, nothing.
>
>Lately, in the past 6 months, I've noticed that when playing my Xbox,
>in areas of high contrast (i.e. bright areas especially near the top
>and bottom of the picture) that the screen will warp and press in
>near the high contrast area.  It looks trapezoidal, with the small
>base along the top of the picture.  I had noticed this problem when
>playing DVD's from my Pioneer DVD player.  Both these units are hooked
>into the S-Video inputs on my TV.
>
>And now more recently, some of the stuff from my Xbox is causing the
>left and right sides of the picture to squeeze and, how should I say,
>warble (?).  It doesn't stay for the entire session, it just appears
>when there is this bright area near the top or sides.  Lots of time
>the picture appears just fine.
>
>At first I thought this was due to the S-Video inputs somehow, but I
>just hooked my Xbox into my TV using the RCA composite inputs, and
>there is still the "warbling".
>
>So, is my TV slowly crapping out?  Can it be fixed?  I know its
>not the newest model out there, but I would like to keep using
>it for a while.
>
>Any advice?  Is this something a TV tube will do over time....like
>the way they say that "hearing is always the first to go on a person",
>do they say that "high contrast warbling is the first to happen to
>a TV"?
>
>
>Thanks for any help,
>Doran


See:

        http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/tvfaq.htm#tvtvnonl
        http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/tvfaq.htm#tviwwohb
        http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/tvfaq.htm#tvkeyst
Author
31 May 2006 5:18 PM
Gene E. Bloch
On 5/31/2006, Mike S. posted this:
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> In article <1149023127.047050.48***@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> dorancat <doran***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have a Panasonic SuperFlat CT32SF36 TV, bought it back in 1998.
>> It has worked great all these years, never needed service, nothing.
>>
>> Lately, in the past 6 months, I've noticed that when playing my Xbox,
>> in areas of high contrast (i.e. bright areas especially near the top
>> and bottom of the picture) that the screen will warp and press in
>> near the high contrast area.  It looks trapezoidal, with the small
>> base along the top of the picture.  I had noticed this problem when
>> playing DVD's from my Pioneer DVD player.  Both these units are hooked
>> into the S-Video inputs on my TV.
>>
>> And now more recently, some of the stuff from my Xbox is causing the
>> left and right sides of the picture to squeeze and, how should I say,
>> warble (?).  It doesn't stay for the entire session, it just appears
>> when there is this bright area near the top or sides.  Lots of time
>> the picture appears just fine.
>>
>> At first I thought this was due to the S-Video inputs somehow, but I
>> just hooked my Xbox into my TV using the RCA composite inputs, and
>> there is still the "warbling".
>>
>> So, is my TV slowly crapping out?  Can it be fixed?  I know its
>> not the newest model out there, but I would like to keep using
>> it for a while.
>>
>> Any advice?  Is this something a TV tube will do over time....like
>> the way they say that "hearing is always the first to go on a person",
>> do they say that "high contrast warbling is the first to happen to
>> a TV"?
>>
>>
>> Thanks for any help,
>> Doran
>
>
> See:
>
>         http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/tvfaq.htm#tvtvnonl
>         http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/tvfaq.htm#tviwwohb
>         http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/tvfaq.htm#tvkeyst

Wow! This site is a real course in TV repair...

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Gene E. Bloch (Gino)
letters617blochg3251
(replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")