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"Switching" Two Cameras For Taping Gov./Public Meetings
try something new, like using TWO cameras at the same time and switching back and forth between them both. Currently at meetings I have to swing the camera back and forth. I've used a video switcher (Azden MX-1) in the past (don't have one now) but I am looking for something easier that one person could use sitting at a table. Is there a camera that has the ability to use an auxillary camera (genlocked) with it? Also, any suggestions as to a good "shotgun" microphone that could be used to pick up people's questions in (40x40) room. Please post reply and/or email me at: rocka***@prodigy.net Bill Mulcahy "Free Thinker" wrote ...
>I have been a public access TV producer for many years and I would like My favorite is the Pannasonic WJ-AVE5 which allows two>to try something new, like using TWO cameras at the same time and >switching back and forth between them both. Currently at meetings I >have to swing the camera back and forth. > > I've used a video switcher (Azden MX-1) in the past (don't have one > now) but I am looking for something easier that one person could use > sitting at a table. Is there a camera that has the ability to use an > auxillary camera (genlocked) with it? non-synchronous inputs, has lots of wipes and effects, and even picture-in-picture, etc. Not made for a long time, but likely available on eBay, etc. In addition to use with two cameras, also quite handy to use with one camera and video from a computer (PowerPoint, etc.) > Also, any suggestions as to a good "shotgun" microphone that could be Good luck. Shotguns don't work that well indoors.> used to pick up people's questions in (40x40) room. On Thu, 25 May 2006 19:42:13 -0700, "Richard Crowley"
<rcrow***@xpr7t.net> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >"Free Thinker" wrote ... There are several of these on eBay right now that would be very>>I have been a public access TV producer for many years and I would like >>to try something new, like using TWO cameras at the same time and >>switching back and forth between them both. Currently at meetings I >>have to swing the camera back and forth. >> >> I've used a video switcher (Azden MX-1) in the past (don't have one >> now) but I am looking for something easier that one person could use >> sitting at a table. Is there a camera that has the ability to use an >> auxillary camera (genlocked) with it? > >My favorite is the Pannasonic WJ-AVE5 which allows two >non-synchronous inputs, has lots of wipes and effects, and >even picture-in-picture, etc. Not made for a long time, but >likely available on eBay, etc. > >In addition to use with two cameras, also quite handy to use >with one camera and video from a computer (PowerPoint, etc.) > >> Also, any suggestions as to a good "shotgun" microphone that could be >> used to pick up people's questions in (40x40) room. > >Good luck. Shotguns don't work that well indoors. acceptable for your purposes. Depends on how much you want to spend. I have a Panasonic WJMX-50 and those are going for around $1500.00. I have seen several WJMX-12's for MUCH, MUCH less. I had a 12 for several years and it worked great for me. Stay away from the Videonics MX-1 or even the MX-Pro. Pure junk in my opinion. Bob Ford Images In Motion www.imagesinmotion.com > Depends on how much you want to spend. I have a Panasonic WJMX-50 and I have heard this too, re the Focus Enhancement / Videonics switchers. I've been reading about a switcher that Datavideo makes > those are going for around $1500.00. > I have seen several WJMX-12's for MUCH, MUCH less. I had a 12 for > several years and it worked great for me. > Stay away from the Videonics MX-1 or even the MX-Pro. Pure junk in my > opinion. > Bob Ford > Images In Motion > www.imagesinmotion.com but I have not seen one in person or being used. The Panasonic old switchers mentioned are a pain these days because you'll get glitches on each switch unless you hit a button or two before you make the switch. Hard to explain - but in other words, you have to do more than just hit one button from "Camera 1" to "Camera 2" to avoid the glitch. It's a royal pain. If you're using firewire, then you'd have to use new equipment. Panasonic makes a new digital switcher but it's very expensive B. Olson wrote:
Show quoteHide quote >>Depends on how much you want to spend. I have a Panasonic WJMX-50 and We run all input through a Hotronics frame sinchronizer. Therefore we >>those are going for around $1500.00. >>I have seen several WJMX-12's for MUCH, MUCH less. I had a 12 for >>several years and it worked great for me. >>Stay away from the Videonics MX-1 or even the MX-Pro. Pure junk in my >>opinion. >>Bob Ford >>Images In Motion >>www.imagesinmotion.com > > > > I have heard this too, re the Focus Enhancement / Videonics switchers. I've been reading about a switcher that Datavideo makes > but I have not seen one in person or being used. The Panasonic old switchers mentioned are a pain these days because you'll get > glitches on each switch unless you hit a button or two before you make the switch. Hard to explain - but in other words, you have > to do more than just hit one button from "Camera 1" to "Camera 2" to avoid the glitch. It's a royal pain. If you're using > firewire, then you'd have to use new equipment. Panasonic makes a new digital switcher but it's very expensive can use a simple snap action 3:1 coax switch and there is NO "glitch" during the switch: simple and economical. I wrote the original post. I just bought an old videonics MX-1 for less than
$400 on ebay. I used one years ago and it works fine for what I want to do, that is smooth video transitions with no flicker and a good picture. I thought there may have been something out there that I could put in the palm of my hand. Bill Mulcahy Show quoteHide quote "B. Olson" <reallifevideoNoSpamtoday@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:reallifevideoNoSpamtoday-F6F967.19153402082006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net... > >> Depends on how much you want to spend. I have a Panasonic WJMX-50 and >> those are going for around $1500.00. >> I have seen several WJMX-12's for MUCH, MUCH less. I had a 12 for >> several years and it worked great for me. >> Stay away from the Videonics MX-1 or even the MX-Pro. Pure junk in my >> opinion. >> Bob Ford >> Images In Motion >> www.imagesinmotion.com > > > I have heard this too, re the Focus Enhancement / Videonics switchers. > I've been reading about a switcher that Datavideo makes > but I have not seen one in person or being used. The Panasonic old > switchers mentioned are a pain these days because you'll get > glitches on each switch unless you hit a button or two before you make the > switch. Hard to explain - but in other words, you have > to do more than just hit one button from "Camera 1" to "Camera 2" to avoid > the glitch. It's a royal pain. If you're using > firewire, then you'd have to use new equipment. Panasonic makes a new > digital switcher but it's very expensive Bill Mulcahy wrote:
> I wrote the original post. I just bought an old videonics MX-1 for less than Well if that's all you needed, what the heck.> $400 on > ebay. I used one years ago and it works fine for what I want to do, that is > smooth > video transitions with no flicker and a good picture. I thought there may > have been > something out there that I could put in the palm of my hand. > > Bill Mulcahy > Typically as people increase their capabilities their creative vision also broadens, which leads to looking for the next step. I would consider looking at Final Cut Studio or one of the other systems with Multi-camera editing capability if you aren't using one already. You may not be doing much post now but it may give you some ideas for down the road. Craig http://www.pro-tape.com > No, for something like this you really REALLY want to live-switch it as> Well if that's all you needed, what the heck. > > Typically as people increase their capabilities their creative vision > also broadens, which leads to looking for the next step. I would > consider looking at Final Cut Studio or one of the other systems with > Multi-camera editing capability if you aren't using one already. You > may not be doing much post now but it may give you some ideas for down > the road. > > Craig > > http://www.pro-tape.com much as possible. If it goes 4 hours on 2 cameras, you waste an entire 8-hour day just digitizing before you can even make a single cut, you'd be better off using tape-to-tape machine control for edits. Then editing would take you another 10 hours. Meanwhile, there's more meetings to tape; your drives are filling up, you have another 4-hours of output time for each project...you'd NEVER get ahead, unless meetings were only once a week or fewer. And your coverage becomes less timely. NLE's are fabulous tools, but not the solution to everything. "nobody special" wrote ...
Show quoteHide quote >> Well if that's all you needed, what the heck. AMEN, brother!>> >> Typically as people increase their capabilities their creative vision >> also broadens, which leads to looking for the next step. I would >> consider looking at Final Cut Studio or one of the other systems with >> Multi-camera editing capability if you aren't using one already. You >> may not be doing much post now but it may give you some ideas for down >> the road. >> >> Craig >> >> http://www.pro-tape.com > > No, for something like this you really REALLY want to live-switch it as > much as possible. If it goes 4 hours on 2 cameras, you waste an entire > 8-hour day just digitizing before you can even make a single cut, you'd > be better off using tape-to-tape machine control for edits. Then > editing would take you another 10 hours. Meanwhile, there's more > meetings to tape; your drives are filling up, you have another 4-hours > of output time for each project...you'd NEVER get ahead, unless > meetings were only once a week or fewer. And your coverage becomes less > timely. > > NLE's are fabulous tools, but not the solution to everything. This kind of production is virtually always done live- switched to tape for that reason. "Richard Crowley" <rcrow***@xpr7t.net> wrote in message Thanks for the info, but what I'm looking for is a CAMERAnews:127cr6r2voiti42@corp.supernews.com... > My favorite is the Pannasonic WJ-AVE5 which allows two > non-synchronous inputs, has lots of wipes and effects, and > even picture-in-picture, etc. Not made for a long time, but > likely available on eBay, etc. that can take an auxillary video input and smoothly switch with it. This way I could avoid moving the camera so much. I see that some of the new high definition cameras specs talk http://www.videomaker.com/scripts/news.cfm?id=1494 about a genlock input, but I can't tell if they have the feature I'm looking for. Maybe there isn't one. I would think there must be a camera, maybe a professional one, out there that has this feature. Bill Mulcahy "Free Thinker" wrote ...
> "Richard Crowley" wrote ... Doesn't exist unless you make one yourself.>> My favorite is the Pannasonic WJ-AVE5 which allows two >> non-synchronous inputs, has lots of wipes and effects, and >> even picture-in-picture, etc. Not made for a long time, but >> likely available on eBay, etc. > > Thanks for the info, but what I'm looking for is a CAMERA > that can take an auxillary video input and smoothly switch with it. > This way I could avoid moving the camera so much. > I see that some of the new high definition cameras specs talk Genlock allows cameras to be synced together. Nobody who> http://www.videomaker.com/scripts/news.cfm?id=1494 > about a genlock input, but I can't tell if they have the feature > I'm looking for. Maybe there isn't one. can afford pro cameras does switching from the camera, which is why the feature you are seeking doesn't exist. > I would think there must be a camera, maybe a professional Pro-level equipment implies pro-level staffing also. Whether> one, out there that has this feature. we like it or agree with it or not. On Thu, 25 May 2006 20:51:55 -0400, Free Thinker wrote
(in article <Lisdg.78755$F_3.36***@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>): Show quoteHide quote > I have been a public access TV producer for many years and I would like to Doesn't Sony make a two rack space mulitmedia box that has a video follows > try something new, like using TWO cameras at the same time and switching > back and forth between them both. Currently at meetings I have to swing the > camera back and forth. > > I've used a video switcher (Azden MX-1) in the past (don't have one now) but > I am looking for something easier that one person could use sitting at a > table. Is there a camera that has the ability to use an auxillary camera > (genlocked) with it? > > Also, any suggestions as to a good "shotgun" microphone that could be used > to pick up people's questions in (40x40) room. > > Please post reply and/or email me at: rocka***@prodigy.net > > Bill Mulcahy > > audio switching circuit? Regards, Ty Ford -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at www.tyford.com For the mic issue, you might consider mounting two PZM boundary mics in
the room and feeding those to a mixer near your free hand. For cheap switching between 2 cameras into a deck, you already got pretty good suggestions as to what to get or avoid. You could also just buy a vertical interval router type box, there are several that would work for you in the 3-400 dollar range. You would feed this switched input to a stand alone deck. I have a DVCpro camcorder that has a video input on the back so you can use the camera as a deck, but there is no way you could switch feeds in it the way you were asking. It's either a camea or a deck taking in external video, never both. Another way you could go though is to use a mac laptop and a usb cheapie camera for the wide shot and your Dv camera as a firewire input, add Channel Storm's Livechannel software and the laptop becomes a cheaper version of the video toaster, able to switchsources, add graphic supers , etc. plus it records the switched mix to the hard drive and can even simultaneously pointcast it tot he internet as a live stream. not bad for $999 software. Free demo to download and try. The catch is, i don't think it can switch two DV streams live even if the laptop has 2 firewire ports. But it should be able toe switch from a USB conferencing type cam and the Dv camcorder ok. 
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