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Problem with capturing from mini DV camera

Author
26 Apr 2006 6:47 AM
Marko Pinteric
Hello experts!

I have JVC GR-DVL 140 digital camera with firewire exit and Ulead
VideoStudio 7 software.  Connecting camera to my personal computer
(notebook) was no big effort and when I was capturing two years ago I
didn't have any serious problems.  However, when I started another
capturing few days ago the quality of sound deteriorated significantly.

Visual part of video is fine, there is no error in it, however metalic
noise pulses appear in the sound.  It seems that noise pulses appears
only when recorded sound is loud enough and possibly of appropriate
frequency - so this could be some sound loop problem.  In very noise
parts of recording noise pulses can appear even several times a second.

I was trying to correlate the noise effect with various parameters, like
the number of electrical appliances working in the neighborhood, number
of cables etc.  The only working correlation seems to be the following:
if computer and camera are turned off for some time, there is
significant reduction of noise after they are turned on again.  After
longer use noise increases again.

1. Do you have any suggestions how to solve this problem?

2. Do you have any suggestions where to post my problem to get useful
suggestions?  This is the only camera-related newsgroup I found on the
internet.

Thanks for the answers.

Best regards,

Marko

Author
26 Apr 2006 2:44 PM
Martin van derPoel
Hi Marko,
I think you have the correct newsgroup.
I had similar sound problems a few years back with a Sony Digital 8, it was
the video head that was worn and needed replacement.  (I hope yours is OK),
try cleaning the head to ensure a good signal comming from the rotary head.
The sound that came from the earphone socket in my case was normal and of
good quality, it was only the sound that came through the Fire Wire that was
affected.

Try recording through a different program like WinDV or DVIO (both freeware)
to eliminate a problem with VideoStudio

Regards,

Martin


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"Marko Pinteric" <ma***@pinteric.com> wrote in message
news:EHE3g.2088$oj5.780061@news.siol.net...
> Hello experts!
>
> I have JVC GR-DVL 140 digital camera with firewire exit and Ulead
> VideoStudio 7 software.  Connecting camera to my personal computer
> (notebook) was no big effort and when I was capturing two years ago I
> didn't have any serious problems.  However, when I started another
> capturing few days ago the quality of sound deteriorated significantly.
>
> Visual part of video is fine, there is no error in it, however metalic
> noise pulses appear in the sound.  It seems that noise pulses appears only
> when recorded sound is loud enough and possibly of appropriate frequency -
> so this could be some sound loop problem.  In very noise parts of
> recording noise pulses can appear even several times a second.
>
> I was trying to correlate the noise effect with various parameters, like
> the number of electrical appliances working in the neighborhood, number of
> cables etc.  The only working correlation seems to be the following: if
> computer and camera are turned off for some time, there is significant
> reduction of noise after they are turned on again.  After longer use noise
> increases again.
>
> 1. Do you have any suggestions how to solve this problem?
>
> 2. Do you have any suggestions where to post my problem to get useful
> suggestions?  This is the only camera-related newsgroup I found on the
> internet.
>
> Thanks for the answers.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marko
Author
4 May 2006 8:58 AM
Marko Pinteric
Thanks for the reply.  I also contacted service with other problems with
my camera I did not mention in my post and they too (independently)
think that something is wrong with a head.  Is it worth to replace a
head or is it better to buy a new camera?

Thanks, Marko

Martin van derPoel wrote:
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> Hi Marko,
> I think you have the correct newsgroup.
> I had similar sound problems a few years back with a Sony Digital 8, it was
> the video head that was worn and needed replacement.  (I hope yours is OK),
> try cleaning the head to ensure a good signal comming from the rotary head.
> The sound that came from the earphone socket in my case was normal and of
> good quality, it was only the sound that came through the Fire Wire that was
> affected.
>
> Try recording through a different program like WinDV or DVIO (both freeware)
> to eliminate a problem with VideoStudio
>
> Regards,
>
> Martin
>
>
> "Marko Pinteric" <ma***@pinteric.com> wrote in message
> news:EHE3g.2088$oj5.780061@news.siol.net...
>
>>Hello experts!
>>
>>I have JVC GR-DVL 140 digital camera with firewire exit and Ulead
>>VideoStudio 7 software.  Connecting camera to my personal computer
>>(notebook) was no big effort and when I was capturing two years ago I
>>didn't have any serious problems.  However, when I started another
>>capturing few days ago the quality of sound deteriorated significantly.
>>
>>Visual part of video is fine, there is no error in it, however metalic
>>noise pulses appear in the sound.  It seems that noise pulses appears only
>>when recorded sound is loud enough and possibly of appropriate frequency -
>>so this could be some sound loop problem.  In very noise parts of
>>recording noise pulses can appear even several times a second.
>>
>>I was trying to correlate the noise effect with various parameters, like
>>the number of electrical appliances working in the neighborhood, number of
>>cables etc.  The only working correlation seems to be the following: if
>>computer and camera are turned off for some time, there is significant
>>reduction of noise after they are turned on again.  After longer use noise
>>increases again.
>>
>>1. Do you have any suggestions how to solve this problem?
>>
>>2. Do you have any suggestions where to post my problem to get useful
>>suggestions?  This is the only camera-related newsgroup I found on the
>>internet.
>>
>>Thanks for the answers.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>Marko
>
>
>
Author
26 Apr 2006 3:12 PM
PTravel
"Marko Pinteric" <ma***@pinteric.com> wrote in message
news:EHE3g.2088$oj5.780061@news.siol.net...
> Hello experts!

> 1. Do you have any suggestions how to solve this problem?


If you are capturing via the 1394/Firewire port, then you are creating a
bit-for-bit copy of the digital video data that's on the tape in the camera.
It would be impossible to introduce distortion to the audio track.

You might check your capture software and make sure that it is set to
capture as DV-codec AVI.  If, for some reason, you've specified another
codec or format, then transcoding may be a problem.

Absent an incorrect codec setting for capture, the problem is either
whatever you're using to playback the captured file on your computer, or
it's a defect in your camera.  If other AV files play back without problems
on your computer, it's definitely a camera issue.  It's hard to imagine a
head-cleaning issue that would effect only the audio and not the video -- 
it's all recorded as a single data "file," so you couldn't get corruption in
one, but not the other.



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> 2. Do you have any suggestions where to post my problem to get useful
> suggestions?  This is the only camera-related newsgroup I found on the
> internet.
>
> Thanks for the answers.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marko
Author
4 May 2006 8:58 AM
Marko Pinteric
Thanks for the reply.

Marko

PTravel wrote:
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> "Marko Pinteric" <ma***@pinteric.com> wrote in message
> news:EHE3g.2088$oj5.780061@news.siol.net...
>
>>Hello experts!
>
>
>>1. Do you have any suggestions how to solve this problem?
>
>
>
> If you are capturing via the 1394/Firewire port, then you are creating a
> bit-for-bit copy of the digital video data that's on the tape in the camera.
> It would be impossible to introduce distortion to the audio track.
>
> You might check your capture software and make sure that it is set to
> capture as DV-codec AVI.  If, for some reason, you've specified another
> codec or format, then transcoding may be a problem.
>
> Absent an incorrect codec setting for capture, the problem is either
> whatever you're using to playback the captured file on your computer, or
> it's a defect in your camera.  If other AV files play back without problems
> on your computer, it's definitely a camera issue.  It's hard to imagine a
> head-cleaning issue that would effect only the audio and not the video -- 
> it's all recorded as a single data "file," so you couldn't get corruption in
> one, but not the other.
>
>
>
>
>>2. Do you have any suggestions where to post my problem to get useful
>>suggestions?  This is the only camera-related newsgroup I found on the
>>internet.
>>
>>Thanks for the answers.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>Marko
>
>
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