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Need simple tuner for 2nd tv!

Author
6 Apr 2006 9:05 PM
Thomas G. Marshall
I have an older tv (cable ready but *no* remote) in another room and I'd
like to use a remote with it.

The problem is that if I use the VCR, then there is no volume control.

So I need a turn of the century :) analog cablebox or somesuch cheap that I
can drive with a remote.  Are there such things available?  I cannot seem to
find them online, or at least I must recently have lost my google and
shopping.yahoo.com abilities.

TIA!



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Author
7 Apr 2006 1:20 AM
Bill Kearney
> I have an older tv (cable ready but *no* remote) in another room and I'd
> like to use a remote with it.
>
> The problem is that if I use the VCR, then there is no volume control.

Get a new TV.

The only way you could use an external box would be if it supported
attaching speakers to it.  Otherwise there's no way to control the volume
level.  As in, if you're feeding an RF channel 3 into the TV you can't
adjust the volume externally.  And even if you're providing video, l/r audio
it's still going to be line-level; non-adjustable volume.

If you want to use a computer monitor as a TV then look into something like
a Viewsonic tuner box.  I've got one of their NextVision N4 tuners driving
an old 21" monitor as a TV near the treadmill.  It has volume control but
it's fed to external, amplified, speakers.   Works pretty well.  Not what
you'd need for the TV though but along the same lines.
Author
7 Apr 2006 5:22 PM
Thomas G. Marshall
Bill Kearney said something like:
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>> I have an older tv (cable ready but *no* remote) in another room and I'd
>> like to use a remote with it.
>>
>> The problem is that if I use the VCR, then there is no volume control.
>
> Get a new TV.
>
> The only way you could use an external box would be if it supported
> attaching speakers to it.  Otherwise there's no way to control the volume
> level.  As in, if you're feeding an RF channel 3 into the TV you can't
> adjust the volume externally.  And even if you're providing video, l/r
> audio
> it's still going to be line-level; non-adjustable volume.
>
> If you want to use a computer monitor as a TV then look into something
> like
> a Viewsonic tuner box.  I've got one of their NextVision N4 tuners driving
> an old 21" monitor as a TV near the treadmill.  It has volume control but
> it's fed to external, amplified, speakers.   Works pretty well.  Not what
> you'd need for the TV though but along the same lines.

(????????)  Please clarify.  Back when cable was younger and I had the cable
company's analog cablebox it drove that exact tv's volume *right through*
the coax.  No speakers, no amp, no nuthin attached to the cb's rca plugs.
The tv was set to a volume at the front, and the rest was driven by the box.
So it was essentially dual amped: once at the box, sent through the coax,
and then again at the tv.

But all through the coax.


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Author
7 Apr 2006 6:10 PM
Spam Catcher
"Thomas G. Marshall"
<tgm2tothe10thpo***@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote in
news:TdxZf.33$ee6.17@trndny01:

> (????????)  Please clarify.  Back when cable was younger and I had the
> cable company's analog cablebox it drove that exact tv's volume *right
> through* the coax.  No speakers, no amp, no nuthin attached to the
> cb's rca plugs. The tv was set to a volume at the front, and the rest
> was driven by the box. So it was essentially dual amped: once at the
> box, sent through the coax, and then again at the tv.

Digital cable boxes still have this feature. You can allow the TV to
control the volume, or let the cable box handle it. Or at least my 2
Scientific Atlanta cable boxes do (3250 and 3200).

Check with your cable company : )
Author
7 Apr 2006 6:24 PM
Thomas G. Marshall
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> "Thomas G. Marshall"
> <tgm2tothe10thpo***@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote in
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>> (????????)  Please clarify.  Back when cable was younger and I had the
>> cable company's analog cablebox it drove that exact tv's volume *right
>> through* the coax.  No speakers, no amp, no nuthin attached to the
>> cb's rca plugs. The tv was set to a volume at the front, and the rest
>> was driven by the box. So it was essentially dual amped: once at the
>> box, sent through the coax, and then again at the tv.
>
> Digital cable boxes still have this feature. You can allow the TV to
> control the volume, or let the cable box handle it. Or at least my 2
> Scientific Atlanta cable boxes do (3250 and 3200).
>
> Check with your cable company : )

Yes and no.....a couple things are getting confused here.  Let me list out
the issues again to be clear:

1. I want a very cheap solution, and do not want to rent another box from
the cable company---my first is digital.  I wonder if they'll give away one
of the old analogs.....hmmm....

2. I do not know whether or not the digital CB's are as I was pointing out
the old analog ones were, or are driving their rca output ports for such
sound.  The latter is possible only when almost all tv's started having the
corresponding rca inputs.

3. In any case, I would like a near-$0 or just plain old inexpensive
solution: some kind of cable-ready tuner with remotely controlled volume
that can drive the analog coax (and *only* that coax) of my tv.

4. I recognize that it just might be the best case to get another tv, since
new 19"ers seem to be hovering just above $100.

*thanks again in advance* !!!



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Author
8 Apr 2006 4:55 PM
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"Thomas G. Marshall"
<tgm2tothe10thpo***@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote in
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> 1. I want a very cheap solution, and do not want to rent another box
> from the cable company---my first is digital.  I wonder if they'll
> give away one of the old analogs.....hmmm....

Ebay? : )
Author
24 Apr 2006 6:37 PM
L Alpert
"Thomas G. Marshall" <tgm2tothe10thpo***@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com>
wrote in message news:k7yZf.20$qB4.17@trndny07...
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> Spam Catcher said something like:
>> "Thomas G. Marshall"
>> <tgm2tothe10thpo***@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:TdxZf.33$ee6.17@trndny01:
>>
>>> (????????)  Please clarify.  Back when cable was younger and I had the
>>> cable company's analog cablebox it drove that exact tv's volume *right
>>> through* the coax.  No speakers, no amp, no nuthin attached to the
>>> cb's rca plugs. The tv was set to a volume at the front, and the rest
>>> was driven by the box. So it was essentially dual amped: once at the
>>> box, sent through the coax, and then again at the tv.
>>
>> Digital cable boxes still have this feature. You can allow the TV to
>> control the volume, or let the cable box handle it. Or at least my 2
>> Scientific Atlanta cable boxes do (3250 and 3200).
>>
>> Check with your cable company : )
>
> Yes and no.....a couple things are getting confused here.  Let me list out
> the issues again to be clear:
>
> 1. I want a very cheap solution, and do not want to rent another box from
> the cable company---my first is digital.  I wonder if they'll give away
> one of the old analogs.....hmmm....
>
> 2. I do not know whether or not the digital CB's are as I was pointing out
> the old analog ones were, or are driving their rca output ports for such
> sound.  The latter is possible only when almost all tv's started having
> the corresponding rca inputs.
>
> 3. In any case, I would like a near-$0 or just plain old inexpensive
> solution: some kind of cable-ready tuner with remotely controlled volume
> that can drive the analog coax (and *only* that coax) of my tv.
>
> 4. I recognize that it just might be the best case to get another tv,
> since new 19"ers seem to be hovering just above $100.
>
> *thanks again in advance* !!!

I know you are looking for something inexpensive, but I have one of these
(payed $130) .  It did take comcast about 3 weeks to get me to the right
person to get it to work (GI number had to be inserted in the database at
the local level).

http://www.overstock.com/sm-motorola-dcp501-home-theater-reciever-dvd-cd-player--pg-proframe_pi-1535932_ti-82124.html

Has a DCT 2000 digital receiver built in.

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Author
11 Apr 2006 1:32 PM
GregS
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In article <TdxZf.33$ee6.17@trndny01>, "Thomas G. Marshall" <tgm2tothe10thpo***@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote:
>Bill Kearney said something like:
>>> I have an older tv (cable ready but *no* remote) in another room and I'd
>>> like to use a remote with it.
>>>
>>> The problem is that if I use the VCR, then there is no volume control.
>>
>> Get a new TV.
>>
>> The only way you could use an external box would be if it supported
>> attaching speakers to it.  Otherwise there's no way to control the volume
>> level.  As in, if you're feeding an RF channel 3 into the TV you can't
>> adjust the volume externally.  And even if you're providing video, l/r
>> audio
>> it's still going to be line-level; non-adjustable volume.
>>
>> If you want to use a computer monitor as a TV then look into something
>> like
>> a Viewsonic tuner box.  I've got one of their NextVision N4 tuners driving
>> an old 21" monitor as a TV near the treadmill.  It has volume control but
>> it's fed to external, amplified, speakers.   Works pretty well.  Not what
>> you'd need for the TV though but along the same lines.
>
>(????????)  Please clarify.  Back when cable was younger and I had the cable
>company's analog cablebox it drove that exact tv's volume *right through*
>the coax.  No speakers, no amp, no nuthin attached to the cb's rca plugs.
>The tv was set to a volume at the front, and the rest was driven by the box.
>So it was essentially dual amped: once at the box, sent through the coax,
>and then again at the tv.
>
>But all through the coax.

It probably didn't do stereo. Its even rare today to find stereo VCR's that
feed a stereo sound through the coax output. I would search Ebay for you
cable box with volume control. I remember them. There are probably boxes with a audio output with
volume comtrol also. Sounds like the best thing is to get another TV.
There are endless possibilities. You can get a new cable box, a modulator, and
use a remoter volume control device inbetween  to adjust the sound going into
the modulator, out to channel 3.

greg
Author
7 Apr 2006 10:11 PM
DeepOne
"Thomas G. Marshall"
<tgm2tothe10thpo***@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote:

>I have an older tv (cable ready but *no* remote) in another room and I'd
>like to use a remote with it.

If the TV supports a remote and you just don't have one, you could try
looking for a replacement at www.replacementremotes.com.
Author
8 Apr 2006 12:24 AM
AZ Nomad
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 21:05:53 GMT, Thomas G. Marshall <tgm2tothe10thpo***@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote:



>I have an older tv (cable ready but *no* remote) in another room and I'd
>like to use a remote with it.

>The problem is that if I use the VCR, then there is no volume control.

>So I need a turn of the century :) analog cablebox or somesuch cheap that I
>can drive with a remote.  Are there such things available?  I cannot seem to
>find them online, or at least I must recently have lost my google and
>shopping.yahoo.com abilities.

get a kid
Author
8 Apr 2006 3:12 PM
Gary A. Edelstein
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 21:05:53 GMT, "Thomas G. Marshall"
<tgm2tothe10thpo***@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>I have an older tv (cable ready but *no* remote) in another room and I'd
>like to use a remote with it.
>
>The problem is that if I use the VCR, then there is no volume control.
>
>So I need a turn of the century :) analog cablebox or somesuch cheap that I
>can drive with a remote.  Are there such things available?  I cannot seem to
>find them online, or at least I must recently have lost my google and
>shopping.yahoo.com abilities.
>
I suggest you get a universal or a replacement remote that works with
the TV.  There are universal remotes at big box stores and even
Walgreens that control a large number of devices for less than $15-20.
What make and model number TV?

Gary E
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Author
9 Apr 2006 3:04 AM
Thomas G. Marshall
Gary A. Edelstein said something like:
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> On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 21:05:53 GMT, "Thomas G. Marshall"
> <tgm2tothe10thpo***@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have an older tv (cable ready but *no* remote) in another room and I'd
>> like to use a remote with it.
>>
>> The problem is that if I use the VCR, then there is no volume control.
>>
>> So I need a turn of the century :) analog cablebox or somesuch cheap that
>> I
>> can drive with a remote.  Are there such things available?  I cannot seem
>> to
>> find them online, or at least I must recently have lost my google and
>> shopping.yahoo.com abilities.
>>
> I suggest you get a universal or a replacement remote that works with
> the TV.  There are universal remotes at big box stores and even
> Walgreens that control a large number of devices for less than $15-20.
> What make and model number TV?

The TV has no remote capability.  I'm sorry if that was not made clear.

If the TV /did/ have remote capability, then this problem would not be a
problem ;)

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Author
9 Apr 2006 2:57 PM
Gary A. Edelstein
On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 03:04:48 GMT, "Thomas G. Marshall"
<tgm2tothe10thpo***@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>The TV has no remote capability.  I'm sorry if that was not made clear.
>
>If the TV /did/ have remote capability, then this problem would not be a
>problem ;)
>
Ah, I see.  Time for a new TV or find a very cheap analog cable
converter box that has a remote and a volume control.  Years ago Radio
Shack used to sell such a converter; there are others the cable
companies used to provide, so maybe you can find one at a used shop,
Goodwill, flea market or Ebay.

Unfortunately, a new TV may end up being the cheapest and best
solution (but you may need to add another box to it after 2/09 when
everything goes digital, but who knows).

Gary E
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Author
11 Apr 2006 12:31 PM
dnoyeB
Thomas G. Marshall wrote:
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> I have an older tv (cable ready but *no* remote) in another room and I'd
> like to use a remote with it.
>
> The problem is that if I use the VCR, then there is no volume control.
>
> So I need a turn of the century :) analog cablebox or somesuch cheap that I
> can drive with a remote.  Are there such things available?  I cannot seem to
> find them online, or at least I must recently have lost my google and
> shopping.yahoo.com abilities.
>
> TIA!
>
>
>

probably hard to find because so many people have cable tv and since
congress passed that law to support rich folks with several TVs in their
homes, extra cable boxes usually run <$1.00 a month...

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