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Advise needed for camcorder / camera

Author
23 Mar 2006 4:28 PM
n8900498
I am looking at buying a new camcorder. My digital camera has recently
packed up and therefore looking for a camcorder that can double as a
digital camera. I would like the camcorder to have a seperate memory
card for photos. I am looking in the range of $400 - $800.

Are these new DVD camcorders any good compared to the DVtape format
camcorders?

JVC as the new 20gb harddrives that store the videos, are these any
good?

I am a bit clueless and would appreciate any advise

Author
23 Mar 2006 5:44 PM
PTravel
<n8900***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1143131286.161884.225230@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>I am looking at buying a new camcorder. My digital camera has recently
> packed up and therefore looking for a camcorder that can double as a
> digital camera. I would like the camcorder to have a seperate memory
> card for photos. I am looking in the range of $400 - $800.
>
> Are these new DVD camcorders any good compared to the DVtape format
> camcorders?

No.

>
> JVC as the new 20gb harddrives that store the videos, are these any
> good?

Nope.

>
> I am a bit clueless and would appreciate any advise

MiniDV uses the DV-25 codec, which does not compress temporally and has a 25
mbit data rate.  DV-25 video is easily edited on a computer.

DVD uses mpeg2, which does compress temporally and, in DVD-compliant
implementation, has a maximum bit rate of 9 mbits.  The camcorders use
single-pass hardware transcoders, which do not do the best job of
compressing the video.  Mpeg2 is edited only with difficulty on a computer.

Hard drive recorders use mpeg2 at DVD-compliant rates and have the same
drawbacks as DVD camcorder.

DVD and hard disk camcorders are consumer gadgets, marketed to people who
are looking for something "easy and simple" and who don't care about video
quality.  MiniDV is used in prosumer camcorders -- studio release films have
been shot on it.

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Author
24 Mar 2006 5:29 AM
Gene E. Bloch
On 3/23/2006, PTravel posted this:
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> <n8900***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1143131286.161884.225230@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>>I am looking at buying a new camcorder. My digital camera has recently
>> packed up and therefore looking for a camcorder that can double as a
>> digital camera. I would like the camcorder to have a seperate memory
>> card for photos. I am looking in the range of $400 - $800.
>>
>> Are these new DVD camcorders any good compared to the DVtape format
>> camcorders?
>
> No.
>
>>
>> JVC as the new 20gb harddrives that store the videos, are these any
>> good?
>
> Nope.
>
>>
>> I am a bit clueless and would appreciate any advise
>
> MiniDV uses the DV-25 codec, which does not compress temporally and has a 25
> mbit data rate.  DV-25 video is easily edited on a computer.
>
> DVD uses mpeg2, which does compress temporally and, in DVD-compliant
> implementation, has a maximum bit rate of 9 mbits.  The camcorders use
> single-pass hardware transcoders, which do not do the best job of compressing
> the video.  Mpeg2 is edited only with difficulty on a computer.
>
> Hard drive recorders use mpeg2 at DVD-compliant rates and have the same
> drawbacks as DVD camcorder.
>
> DVD and hard disk camcorders are consumer gadgets, marketed to people who are
> looking for something "easy and simple" and who don't care about video
> quality.  MiniDV is used in prosumer camcorders -- studio release films have
> been shot on it.
>

It might also be noted that camcorder still photo capability is in
general not good.

Gino

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