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DVD burning advice sought"Mark Crispin" <m**@CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote in message Well - you should start reading this group... especially if you have a news:Pine.OSX.4.64.0603152146570.482@pangtzu.panda.com... > [Please respond via email, as I don't normally read this group. Thanks!] question. A lot of good information here. I have a Sony DVD burner for a PC hardly used as the thing was very fussy
about the brand and type of disk. It is now used as a paperweight and much more useful I purchased a Pioneer DVD burner and hey presto burns all with 100% reliability. Google for "martin van der poel dru-510a" and you will find my original writing. Just to see, I checked the Sony website fot a firmware update for this piece of sh*t and guess what, STILL NO FIRMWARE UPDATE. Poor bastards that still have a SONY DRU_510A, they still have to hunt arround for 4x DVD disks as that is all it can handle. Regards, Martin van der Poel Show quoteHide quote "Mark Crispin" <m**@CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote in message news:Pine.OSX.4.64.0603152146570.482@pangtzu.panda.com... > [Please respond via email, as I don't normally read this group. Thanks!] > > I recently bought a Sony RDR-VX515 VHS/DVD-recorder, and I tried burning > some DVDs. I choose DVD-R since I wanted the greatest compatibility and > reliability. DVD+R and DVD+RW have some compatibility issues, and I > figured that DVD-RW and DVD+RW would be less reliable than burn-once > media. > > According to the manual, I need to use "8x-speed or slower" for DVD-R. So, > I got a box of imation 8x DVD-R. After coastering several DVDs ("the disk > can be neither read nor written", says the RDR-VX515), I gave up and tried > some Memorex 16x DVD-R. These worked much better, although I still > managed to coaster a couple of them. > > It seems to be that if I set the disk title before recording the program, > I wind up either with a coaster or a disk that will play in the RDR-VX515 > but nowhere else. If I use a Memorex 16x and record the program first, > then set the title name, then set the disk name, I get a disk which will > play elsewhere. > > I have yet to get a non-coaster with the imation 8x. Ironically, the > Memorex 16x were cheaper than the imation 8x. > > None of the material is copyguarded in any way. > > My question is, is this to be expected? Or is my RDR-VX515 a lemon? > > My experience with CD burning has taught me "always record at the slowest > speed, and use the best quality CDs you can find". Reliability is > paramount for me. I don't particular care how long a good burn takes; > burning a coaster wastes far more time. Anyway, a video DVD is only going > to burn at 1x anyway. > > So if my experience is the way things are in the DVD burning world, OK. > But if my RDR-VX515 is a lemon, I need to know ASAP. I have 10 days in > which I can return it, and I haven't sent in the rebate paperwork yet. > > There was, by the way, another reason why I bought the RDR-VX515. My > S-VHS VCR smoked, and I had to replace it. Apparently S-VHS is not to be > had at all any more, and the only VCRs with anything better than composite > video are these combination VHS/DVD units. I gritted my teeth at paying > the "Sony tax"... > > -- Mark -- > > http://panda.com/mrc > Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch. > Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote. Hi Mark,
As far as I know the burner has to recognise the disk, 16 times disk were made after the burner and software and therefore the burner does not know what to do. I currently use printable Ritek G05-R12x disks ($25 australian dollars for stack of 50) and before I used TDK-R 8x. with my Pioneer 108 (Pioneer updates the firmware frequently, unlike Sony) With the Sony all that would burn were overpriced brandname disks, or the well priced TDK-R 4x, but they were replaced with 8x disks and the Sony could not initialise on them. The burners are quite cheep now so buy a new one and this time not a Sony. Regards, Martin van der Poel Show quoteHide quote "Mark Crispin" <M**@CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote in message news:Pine.WNT.4.65.0603171737170.4052@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU... > Further information: > > I called Sony. > > They claim that there's nothing wrong with my unit, and that while it's > surprising that the 16x Memorex disks worked (the Soiny documentation says > that the burner supports "8x or slower" disks), they said that it's not > surprising that the 8x imation disks didn't work -- that I should only use > "well-known name brand discs." > > They also said that yes, I should not set the disk title until just before > I'm ready to finalize. > > -- Mark -- > > http://staff.washington.edu/mrc > Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. > Si vis pacem, para bellum. "Mark Crispin" <m**@CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote in message I always have the disks recorded at once.news:Pine.LNX.4.65.0603171121380.2624@shiva1.cac.washington.edu... > Thanks Martin for your response. Sigh, typical Sony. > > Do you have any idea why it works to set the disk title *after* recording > the media content and not before? Someone else said that you shouldn't > set the disk until you're ready to finalize, but couldn't say why (other > than the empirical evidence). > Maybe the firmware understood the 16x disk.> Why would it work better with 16x disks than with 8x disks, especially > since it's only recording at 1x? > If the burner does not have the type of media in its firmware it does not > The burner documentation says that I have to use "8x or slower" media. A > notice on the 16x media says that it may not work in some burner without a > firmware upgrade, even if I burn at a slower speed. know what to do with it, that's where the firmware update comes in. > I believe that writing faster media is only possible with a dye that can > Clearly 16x media does not just mean "better quality media up to 16x", but > rather also imposes requirements on the burner, even if it's a video-only > burner that only burns at 1x. either handle a stronger writing beam or the media must have a dye that changes property faster so the same strength beam can be used. > As far as I know when you burn on a slower speed the burner turns the > If it was just a better quality rating, then it would be easy to make > things reliable; buy the fastest-rated media and burn at the slowest > speed. intensity of the laser down so it does not cook the dye layer Regards Martin van der Poel. Show quoteHide quote > > -- Mark -- > > http://staff.washington.edu/mrc > Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. > Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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"Mark Crispin" <m**@CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote in message It is possible that the 16x disks have the same parameters (as far as the news:Pine.OSX.4.64.0603191832000.8141@pangtzu.panda.com... > On Sun, 19 Mar 2006, Martin van derPoel wrote: >>> Do you have any idea why it works to set the disk title *after* >>> recording >>> the media content and not before? Someone else said that you shouldn't >>> set the disk until you're ready to finalize, but couldn't say why (other >>> than the empirical evidence). >> I always have the disks recorded at once. > > As I said in my previous message, I'm burning video in real time (copying > irreplacable laser discs to DVD), not data. The burner is basically a VCR > that does DVDs too. I don't have a computer DVD burner. > >>> Why would it work better with 16x disks than with 8x disks, especially >>> since it's only recording at 1x? >> Maybe the firmware understood the 16x disk. > > Well, Sony customer service didn't know that. But maybe it was done after > the manual was printed. If so, it's good news since those Memorex 16x > seem to have greater local availability than the Sony 8x, and the imation > 8x don't work. > >> If the burner does not have the type of media in its firmware it does not >> know what to do with it, that's where the firmware update comes in. > > There's no possibility that it picked "a reasonable default" behavior that > happened to work? Sony is concerned) as some other disk it has in its firmware, I would not argue and just record. Just check the recorded disks, I find that a good check is stepping through the chapters, if the next chapter is slow to start or the video stutters you probably have a poor recording. Regards, Martin Show quoteHide quote > > -- Mark -- > > http://panda.com/mrc > Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch. > Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote. |
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