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Recording from a DENON AVR-3805
I have used the receiver as the hub at the center of my DVR, CD player and phono for weeks to play from each of these sources. Now I want to record with the DVR instead of just using it to play DVDs. I have connected the audio and S-video inputs of the DVR to the audio and S-video VCR-1 outputs of the Denon. However, nothing is recorded. I can't find anything useful in the Denon manual although it suggests that it can be used to record to a 'recording deck' which it assumes is a tape (VCR) rather than disk media. Any ideas? Many thanks! What are you trying to record from that is attached to 3805? The Denon
doesnt produce any video itself, it only switches video from other sources...What DVR do you have that has video and audio inputs, as most have outputs only? DVD Recorders have inputs... Show quoteHide quote "Andrew Chalk" <ach***@magnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message news:y3rnf.28627$BZ5.9551@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... > How do I record to my Digital Video Recorder (DVR) from my AVR3805 receiver? > > I have used the receiver as the hub at the center of my DVR, CD player and > phono for weeks to play from each of these sources. Now I want to record > with the DVR instead of just using it to play DVDs. I have connected the > audio and S-video inputs of the DVR to the audio and S-video VCR-1 outputs > of the Denon. However, nothing is recorded. I can't find anything useful in > the Denon manual although it suggests that it can be used to record to a > 'recording deck' which it assumes is a tape (VCR) rather than disk media. > > Any ideas? > > Many thanks! > > The input is the digital satellite signal. I'm already aware that this is a
switching issue. In the Denon manual there are no specific steps described that are required to switch the satellite TV signal to the DVR input. I would infer that the switch is always open. As you will see on (re)reading my original message, I defined DVR as "Digital Video Recorder", which seems to be a common enough term for what you call a DVD Recorder. Show quoteHide quote "Biz" <spamoff@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:Ocsnf.40912$6e1.24214@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > What are you trying to record from that is attached to 3805? The Denon > doesnt produce any video itself, it only switches video from other > sources...What DVR do you have that has video and audio inputs, as most > have > outputs only? DVD Recorders have inputs... > > > "Andrew Chalk" <ach***@magnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message > news:y3rnf.28627$BZ5.9551@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... >> How do I record to my Digital Video Recorder (DVR) from my AVR3805 > receiver? >> >> I have used the receiver as the hub at the center of my DVR, CD player >> and >> phono for weeks to play from each of these sources. Now I want to record >> with the DVR instead of just using it to play DVDs. I have connected the >> audio and S-video inputs of the DVR to the audio and S-video VCR-1 >> outputs >> of the Denon. However, nothing is recorded. I can't find anything useful > in >> the Denon manual although it suggests that it can be used to record to a >> 'recording deck' which it assumes is a tape (VCR) rather than disk media. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> Many thanks! >> >> > > Are you purposely trying to give as little info as possible? Anyway, if
your DVR has a/v inputs, most do not, just outputs, and you have it connected correctly to the VCR-1 outputs, you also have to have your sat receiver hooked up using the same types of cabling(s-video, analog R/L), if you are only using the optical or coax digital connection from the satellite, you would get no signal either...refer to page 9 of your manaul for the details. Here is a quote from page 9 The REC OUT terminals have no conversion function, so when recording only connect the S-Video terminals. So for recording, both devices, the source and destination must have the same connection types, you cant mix and match component, s-video and composite when trying to record stuff, that only works for playback Choose the satelittle input, and hit record on your DVR. If you havent fiddled with the REC OUT you should be fine. Otherwise refer to page 68. Show quoteHide quote "Andrew Chalk" <ach***@magnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message news:kgtnf.31109$dO2.12505@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > The input is the digital satellite signal. I'm already aware that this is a > switching issue. In the Denon manual there are no specific steps described > that are required to switch the satellite TV signal to the DVR input. I > would infer that the switch is always open. > > As you will see on (re)reading my original message, I defined DVR as > "Digital Video Recorder", which seems to be a common enough term for what > you call a DVD Recorder. > > "Biz" <spamoff@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:Ocsnf.40912$6e1.24214@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > > What are you trying to record from that is attached to 3805? The Denon > > doesnt produce any video itself, it only switches video from other > > sources...What DVR do you have that has video and audio inputs, as most > > have > > outputs only? DVD Recorders have inputs... > > > > > > "Andrew Chalk" <ach***@magnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message > > news:y3rnf.28627$BZ5.9551@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... > >> How do I record to my Digital Video Recorder (DVR) from my AVR3805 > > receiver? > >> > >> I have used the receiver as the hub at the center of my DVR, CD player > >> and > >> phono for weeks to play from each of these sources. Now I want to record > >> with the DVR instead of just using it to play DVDs. I have connected the > >> audio and S-video inputs of the DVR to the audio and S-video VCR-1 > >> outputs > >> of the Denon. However, nothing is recorded. I can't find anything useful > > in > >> the Denon manual although it suggests that it can be used to record to a > >> 'recording deck' which it assumes is a tape (VCR) rather than disk media. > >> > >> Any ideas? > >> > >> Many thanks! > >> > >> > > > > > >
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"Biz" <spamoff@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message Now we are getting somewhere! Apparently I wasn't so obtuse that you weren't news:juDnf.41149$6e1.24589@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > Are you purposely trying to give as little info as possible? Anyway, if > your DVR has a/v inputs, most do not, just outputs, and you have it > connected correctly to the VCR-1 outputs, you also have to have your sat > receiver hooked up using the same types of cabling(s-video, analog R/L), > if > you are only using the optical or coax digital connection from the > satellite, you would get no signal either...refer to page 9 of your > manaul > for the details. Here is a quote from page 9 > The REC OUT terminals have no conversion function, so when recording only > connect the S-Video terminals. > So for recording, both devices, the source and destination must have the > same connection types, you cant mix and match component, s-video and > composite when trying to record stuff, that only works for playback > able to zero in on what appears to be the cause. The DBS output is indeed S-video, and the DVR input is S-video. The output from the receiver to other components (TV monitor, phone, DVD) are a mixture of analog and digital but they are not involved in the recording process. > Done that a lot last weekend.> Choose the satelittle input, and hit record on your DVR. If you havent > fiddled with the REC OUT you should be fine. > > I'll refer back to that.> Otherwise refer to page 68. Since you apparently know a lot about DENON, do you know if they provide any kind of support? Thanks! Show quoteHide quote > > > > "Andrew Chalk" <ach***@magnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message > news:kgtnf.31109$dO2.12505@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... >> The input is the digital satellite signal. I'm already aware that this is > a >> switching issue. In the Denon manual there are no specific steps >> described >> that are required to switch the satellite TV signal to the DVR input. I >> would infer that the switch is always open. >> >> As you will see on (re)reading my original message, I defined DVR as >> "Digital Video Recorder", which seems to be a common enough term for what >> you call a DVD Recorder. >> >> "Biz" <spamoff@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:Ocsnf.40912$6e1.24214@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... >> > What are you trying to record from that is attached to 3805? The Denon >> > doesnt produce any video itself, it only switches video from other >> > sources...What DVR do you have that has video and audio inputs, as most >> > have >> > outputs only? DVD Recorders have inputs... >> > >> > >> > "Andrew Chalk" <ach***@magnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message >> > news:y3rnf.28627$BZ5.9551@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... >> >> How do I record to my Digital Video Recorder (DVR) from my AVR3805 >> > receiver? >> >> >> >> I have used the receiver as the hub at the center of my DVR, CD player >> >> and >> >> phono for weeks to play from each of these sources. Now I want to > record >> >> with the DVR instead of just using it to play DVDs. I have connected > the >> >> audio and S-video inputs of the DVR to the audio and S-video VCR-1 >> >> outputs >> >> of the Denon. However, nothing is recorded. I can't find anything > useful >> > in >> >> the Denon manual although it suggests that it can be used to record to > a >> >> 'recording deck' which it assumes is a tape (VCR) rather than disk > media. >> >> >> >> Any ideas? >> >> >> >> Many thanks! >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
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"Andrew Chalk" <ach***@magnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message Support for what? All I did was take my knowledge of how almost EVERYnews:S4nof.33253$7h7.13159@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... > "Biz" <spamoff@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:juDnf.41149$6e1.24589@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > > Are you purposely trying to give as little info as possible? Anyway, if > > your DVR has a/v inputs, most do not, just outputs, and you have it > > connected correctly to the VCR-1 outputs, you also have to have your sat > > receiver hooked up using the same types of cabling(s-video, analog R/L), > > if > > you are only using the optical or coax digital connection from the > > satellite, you would get no signal either...refer to page 9 of your > > manaul > > for the details. Here is a quote from page 9 > > > The REC OUT terminals have no conversion function, so when recording only > > connect the S-Video terminals. > > > So for recording, both devices, the source and destination must have the > > same connection types, you cant mix and match component, s-video and > > composite when trying to record stuff, that only works for playback > > > > Now we are getting somewhere! Apparently I wasn't so obtuse that you weren't > able to zero in on what appears to be the cause. The DBS output is indeed > S-video, and the DVR input is S-video. The output from the receiver to other > components (TV monitor, phone, DVD) are a mixture of analog and digital but > they are not involved in the recording process. > > > > Choose the satelittle input, and hit record on your DVR. If you havent > > fiddled with the REC OUT you should be fine. > > > Done that a lot last weekend. > > > > Otherwise refer to page 68. > I'll refer back to that. > > Since you apparently know a lot about DENON, do you know if they provide any > kind of support? > modern AV receiver works, and applied it to what I read in about 5 minutes out of the downloaded owners manual from the Denon site. If your AV reciever is not working and is under warranty, Denon support is supposed to be decent. If you cant figure out how to use it, because you havent read the whole manual, or just plain cant understand it-after reading the manual, related NG's and related av forums are the best place to get answers. User error is not a company tech support issue IMO... Now, again you havent said what your DVR is. Maybe you dont have it setup correctly. When you need specific help you need to list your equipment, ALL your related equipment, including make and model numbers...have you told the DVR to record off the s-video input instead of say its cable tuner input? Have you tried to do this with your VCR 1st? Does your DVR block recording from broadcast flagged channels, which may be another possiblity? Since you have satellite, is it BUD, or is it DISH or Direct, and if its one or the other of the latter, why dont you just get one of their DVR's with built-in sat tuners and not mess around with some other rigged up setup?
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"Biz" <spamoff@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message It's a Panasonic DMR-E20 and I bought it long before the satellite company, news:cmoof.33267$7h7.2064@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... > Now, again you havent said what your DVR is. Maybe you dont have it setup > correctly. When you need specific help you need to list your equipment, > ALL > your related equipment, including make and model numbers...have you told > the > DVR to record off the s-video input instead of say its cable tuner input? > Have you tried to do this with your VCR 1st? Does your DVR block > recording > from broadcast flagged channels, which may be another possiblity? Since > you > have satellite, is it BUD, or is it DISH or Direct, and if its one or the > other of the latter, why dont you just get one of their DVR's with > built-in > sat tuners and not mess around with some other rigged up setup? > > Direct TV, either offered one or I was one of their customers. Plus, buying a DVR from your satellite company is a poor financial deal. Plus, does the Direct TV DVR work in place of the Panasonic in the configuration that I have described? I have recorded to the DVR from Direct TV without problems until I decided to make the Denon the hub of a home theatre system. I'm sure I have it set up correctly, the problem is in the configuration or capabilities of the Denon. Regards.
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"Andrew Chalk" <ach***@magnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message OK, so its a DVD Recorder you have, not a DVR. Especially since this modelnews:EAoof.38109$tV6.9191@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > > "Biz" <spamoff@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:cmoof.33267$7h7.2064@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... > > > Now, again you havent said what your DVR is. Maybe you dont have it setup > > correctly. When you need specific help you need to list your equipment, > > ALL > > your related equipment, including make and model numbers...have you told > > the > > DVR to record off the s-video input instead of say its cable tuner input? > > Have you tried to do this with your VCR 1st? Does your DVR block > > recording > > from broadcast flagged channels, which may be another possiblity? Since > > you > > have satellite, is it BUD, or is it DISH or Direct, and if its one or the > > other of the latter, why dont you just get one of their DVR's with > > built-in > > sat tuners and not mess around with some other rigged up setup? > > > > > It's a Panasonic DMR-E20 and I bought it long before the satellite company, > Direct TV, either offered one or I was one of their customers. Plus, buying > a DVR from your satellite company is a poor financial deal. Plus, does the > Direct TV DVR work in place of the Panasonic in the configuration that I > have described? I have recorded to the DVR from Direct TV without problems > until I decided to make the Denon the hub of a home theatre system. I'm sure > I have it set up correctly, the problem is in the configuration or > capabilities of the Denon. does not even have a built-in hard drive correct? YOu have the VCR-1 s-video output on the 3805 going into the s-video input on the E20? You have your sat receiver's s-video output going into the DBS s-video input on the 3805? You have made sure the REC OUT selector on your 3805 is set to source or DBS to make sure its using the correct signal source? Are you absolutely sure you havent accidentally connected to an input instead of an output on either end of either your DVD recorder or your 3805? How is your tv hooked up to all this? If you select DBS as your source, can you see it fine on your tv? I assume you are wasting DVDs in the process of trying to get this to work, or hopefully you are using RAMs. Another test would be to connect teh VCR-1 s-video output to your tv's s-video input, and see if you can get a picture that way....There are several ways to see if you are getting video output from the vcr-1 outs on the Denon.... |
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