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Intermittent static when viewing cable, cable ready problem?
watching cable short and annoying blasts of video and audio static occur repeatedly until I give trying to watch. Or ometimes it only happens once a day and will be days before it happens again. Two diffent cable tech say it is the tv. The other tv in the house does not have this problem. I finally switched our second tv with the one that has the problem and the static has not happened since. The tv with the problem is a 31" Toshiba. When playing dvd's (using either the svid or composite video input) the image is perfect the static never intrudes. If the problem was in that line (wiring or connections) then I believe the problem would occur on whatever tv was in use in that room. I am left to believe that the problem must be in the cable ready portion of the tv. Anyone know any common problems or thing I should check on the cable ready board?? I can check and replace electronics, I work on pinball machines. But I have schematics and know the common pinball aliments. Thanks, Dug rhino:
Frankly.... if the diagnosis points to the tuner module in the television, then it would be easier and cheaper for you to just use a VCR to do the tuning. Any VCR built in the last 10-13 years will be able to tune all of the cable tv channels... and if you use a STEREO HI FI VCR and feed the television via the composite video/stereo audio jacks into the A/V input of the television the result will be very good. electricitym And I think it's good to buy something with as less integrated components as
possible.I never liked the idea "all-in-one".If you make it with the VCRs tuner...the better for you.I can't say anything else since in Europe (and especially in Greece) we don't have cable tv. -- Show quoteHide quoteTzortzakakis Dimitrios major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr ? <electrici***@yahoo.com> ?????? ??? ?????? news:1128867662.909049.158250@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > rhino: > Frankly.... if the diagnosis points to the tuner module in the > television, then it would be easier and cheaper for you to just use a > VCR to do the tuning. Any VCR built in the last 10-13 years will be > able to tune all of the cable tv channels... and if you use a STEREO HI > FI VCR and feed the television via the composite video/stereo audio > jacks into the A/V input of the television the result will be very > good. > electricitym > electrici***@yahoo.com wrote:
> rhino: I would agree and the idea of using the VCR is a good one.> Frankly.... if the diagnosis points to the tuner module in the > television, then it would be easier and cheaper for you to just use a > VCR to do the tuning. Any VCR built in the last 10-13 years will be > able to tune all of the cable tv channels... and if you use a STEREO > HI FI VCR and feed the television via the composite video/stereo audio > jacks into the A/V input of the television the result will be very > good. > electricitym -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit Thanks for the quick responses.
I don't know if tuning with in VCR would help, I have digital cable and am only tuning in one channel. I also removed the digital box and experienced the problem intermittently as well. <rhino***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1128869738.466311.297140@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... If that is the case, you may also lose some digital channels if you use the > Thanks for the quick responses. > > I don't know if tuning with in VCR would help, I have digital cable > and am only tuning in one channel. I also removed the digital box and > experienced the problem intermittently as well. VCR instead. Depends also on the bale company and what signals you get. rhino:
You can tune the "one channel" with the VCR's tuner.... just like you did with the television's tuner. If the problem still persists then your wiring is suspect. Try what I suggested before you so readily discount it as a valid solution. Post the results electricitym rhino***@yahoo.com wrote:
> Thanks for the quick responses. Does the set have any inputs other than antena? That was my assumption > > I don't know if tuning with in VCR would help, I have digital cable > and am only tuning in one channel. I also removed the digital box and > experienced the problem intermittently as well. when I supported the idea of using the tuner from another device. If you have to use the cable input then it would not be likely to help. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit Joseph:
yes... it has other inputs and the VCR method will work fine. > excerpt from OP: "The tv with the problem is a 31" Toshiba. When playing dvd's (usingeither the svid or composite video input) the image is perfect the static never intrudes." electricitym <rhino***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Show quoteHide quote news:1128867269.709583.122950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... My guess would be connections as others have posted. Whether at the splitter >I have an intermittent static problem on one tv in my house. When > watching cable short and annoying blasts of video and audio static > occur repeatedly until I give trying to watch. Or ometimes it only > happens once a day and will be days before it happens again. Two > diffent cable tech say it is the tv. The other tv in the house does > not have this problem. I finally switched our second tv with the one > that has the problem and the static has not happened since. > > The tv with the problem is a 31" Toshiba. When playing dvd's (using > either the svid or composite video input) the image is perfect the > static never intrudes. > > If the problem was in that line (wiring or connections) then I believe > the problem would occur on whatever tv was in use in that room. I am > left to believe that the problem must be in the cable ready portion of > the tv. Anyone know any common problems or thing I should check on the > cable ready board?? > > I can check and replace electronics, I work on pinball machines. But I > have schematics and know the common pinball aliments. > > Thanks, > Dug > or in the set. Try testing the set at a neighbors house. If it is the set and you want to try your hand at fixing it then get a bright light and a magnifying glass and look for cracks or dark spots in the solder connections at the tuner. Usually it will be a part that runs warm and is moving back and forth when the set is on or off or maybe a single sided board without enough solder. Just heat up the connection and run some solder into any connection that looks suspicious. Also check for discolored connections. They could be the cause too but no guarantee. Please make sure to unplug the TV not just turn it off just to be safe... Another idea would be to post this on sci.electronics.repair and make sure to leave the full model number...There are some excellent techs over there and you might just have a well known bug with an easy fix.....good luck...
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"Ross Mac" <this.is.a.mung@example.invalid> wrote in message Woops...you already posted it there...my mistake...news:ZOOdndpOrtXt9dTenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > <rhino***@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1128867269.709583.122950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >>I have an intermittent static problem on one tv in my house. When >> watching cable short and annoying blasts of video and audio static >> occur repeatedly until I give trying to watch. Or ometimes it only >> happens once a day and will be days before it happens again. Two >> diffent cable tech say it is the tv. The other tv in the house does >> not have this problem. I finally switched our second tv with the one >> that has the problem and the static has not happened since. >> >> The tv with the problem is a 31" Toshiba. When playing dvd's (using >> either the svid or composite video input) the image is perfect the >> static never intrudes. >> >> If the problem was in that line (wiring or connections) then I believe >> the problem would occur on whatever tv was in use in that room. I am >> left to believe that the problem must be in the cable ready portion of >> the tv. Anyone know any common problems or thing I should check on the >> cable ready board?? >> >> I can check and replace electronics, I work on pinball machines. But I >> have schematics and know the common pinball aliments. >> >> Thanks, >> Dug >> > > My guess would be connections as others have posted. Whether at the > splitter or in the set. Try testing the set at a neighbors house. > If it is the set and you want to try your hand at fixing it then get a > bright light and a magnifying glass and look for cracks or dark spots in > the solder connections at the tuner. Usually it will be a part that runs > warm and is moving back and forth when the set is on or off or maybe a > single sided board without enough solder. Just heat up the connection and > run some solder into any connection that looks suspicious. Also check for > discolored connections. They could be the cause too but no guarantee. > Please make sure to unplug the TV not just turn it off just to be safe... > Another idea would be to post this on sci.electronics.repair and make sure > to leave the full model number...There are some excellent techs over there > and you might just have a well known bug with an easy fix.....good luck... >
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"Ross Mac" <this.is.a.mung@example.invalid> wrote in Note that CRT TVs have large capacitors with large voltages that news:ZOOdndpOrtXt9dTenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com: > > <rhino***@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1128867269.709583.122950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >>I have an intermittent static problem on one tv in my house. When >> watching cable short and annoying blasts of video and audio >> static occur repeatedly until I give trying to watch. Or >> ometimes it only happens once a day and will be days before it >> happens again. Two diffent cable tech say it is the tv. The >> other tv in the house does not have this problem. I finally >> switched our second tv with the one that has the problem and the >> static has not happened since. >> >> The tv with the problem is a 31" Toshiba. When playing dvd's >> (using either the svid or composite video input) the image is >> perfect the static never intrudes. >> >> If the problem was in that line (wiring or connections) then I >> believe the problem would occur on whatever tv was in use in that >> room. I am left to believe that the problem must be in the cable >> ready portion of the tv. Anyone know any common problems or >> thing I should check on the cable ready board?? >> >> I can check and replace electronics, I work on pinball machines. >> But I have schematics and know the common pinball aliments. >> >> Thanks, >> Dug >> > > My guess would be connections as others have posted. Whether at > the splitter or in the set. Try testing the set at a neighbors > house. If it is the set and you want to try your hand at fixing it > then get a bright light and a magnifying glass and look for cracks > or dark spots in the solder connections at the tuner. Usually it > will be a part that runs warm and is moving back and forth when > the set is on or off or maybe a single sided board without enough > solder. Just heat up the connection and run some solder into any > connection that looks suspicious. Also check for discolored > connections. They could be the cause too but no guarantee. Please > make sure to unplug the TV not just turn it off just to be safe... > Another idea would be to post this on sci.electronics.repair and > make sure to leave the full model number...There are some > excellent techs over there and you might just have a well known > bug with an easy fix.....good luck... > > hold their charge for a long time. An unplugged TV is not necessarily safe... Gino -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251 replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom"
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"Gene E. Bloch" <hamburger@NOT_SPAM.invalid> wrote in message This is true and those experienced in the electronic field would know news:Xns96EBAE66D9C7FAstrolabe@216.196.97.136... > "Ross Mac" <this.is.a.mung@example.invalid> wrote in > news:ZOOdndpOrtXt9dTenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> <rhino***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:1128867269.709583.122950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >>>I have an intermittent static problem on one tv in my house. When >>> watching cable short and annoying blasts of video and audio >>> static occur repeatedly until I give trying to watch. Or >>> ometimes it only happens once a day and will be days before it >>> happens again. Two diffent cable tech say it is the tv. The >>> other tv in the house does not have this problem. I finally >>> switched our second tv with the one that has the problem and the >>> static has not happened since. >>> >>> The tv with the problem is a 31" Toshiba. When playing dvd's >>> (using either the svid or composite video input) the image is >>> perfect the static never intrudes. >>> >>> If the problem was in that line (wiring or connections) then I >>> believe the problem would occur on whatever tv was in use in that >>> room. I am left to believe that the problem must be in the cable >>> ready portion of the tv. Anyone know any common problems or >>> thing I should check on the cable ready board?? >>> >>> I can check and replace electronics, I work on pinball machines. >>> But I have schematics and know the common pinball aliments. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Dug >>> >> >> My guess would be connections as others have posted. Whether at >> the splitter or in the set. Try testing the set at a neighbors >> house. If it is the set and you want to try your hand at fixing it >> then get a bright light and a magnifying glass and look for cracks >> or dark spots in the solder connections at the tuner. Usually it >> will be a part that runs warm and is moving back and forth when >> the set is on or off or maybe a single sided board without enough >> solder. Just heat up the connection and run some solder into any >> connection that looks suspicious. Also check for discolored >> connections. They could be the cause too but no guarantee. Please >> make sure to unplug the TV not just turn it off just to be safe... >> Another idea would be to post this on sci.electronics.repair and >> make sure to leave the full model number...There are some >> excellent techs over there and you might just have a well known >> bug with an easy fix.....good luck... >> >> > > Note that CRT TVs have large capacitors with large voltages that > hold their charge for a long time. > > An unplugged TV is not necessarily safe... > > Gino > > -- > Gene E. Bloch (Gino) > letters617blochg3251 > replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom" this....The OP indicated that he knew something about electrical repair so it was not mentioned.... On 10/11/2005, Ross Mac managed to type:
Show quoteHide quote > "Gene E. Bloch" <hamburger@NOT_SPAM.invalid> wrote in message The OP might not be the only one reading this thread, so I felt it > news:Xns96EBAE66D9C7FAstrolabe@216.196.97.136... >> "Ross Mac" <this.is.a.mung@example.invalid> wrote in >> news:ZOOdndpOrtXt9dTenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >>> >>> <rhino***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:1128867269.709583.122950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >>>>I have an intermittent static problem on one tv in my house. When >>>> watching cable short and annoying blasts of video and audio >>>> static occur repeatedly until I give trying to watch. Or >>>> ometimes it only happens once a day and will be days before it >>>> happens again. Two diffent cable tech say it is the tv. The >>>> other tv in the house does not have this problem. I finally >>>> switched our second tv with the one that has the problem and the >>>> static has not happened since. >>>> >>>> The tv with the problem is a 31" Toshiba. When playing dvd's >>>> (using either the svid or composite video input) the image is >>>> perfect the static never intrudes. >>>> >>>> If the problem was in that line (wiring or connections) then I >>>> believe the problem would occur on whatever tv was in use in that >>>> room. I am left to believe that the problem must be in the cable >>>> ready portion of the tv. Anyone know any common problems or >>>> thing I should check on the cable ready board?? >>>> >>>> I can check and replace electronics, I work on pinball machines. >>>> But I have schematics and know the common pinball aliments. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Dug >>>> >>> >>> My guess would be connections as others have posted. Whether at >>> the splitter or in the set. Try testing the set at a neighbors >>> house. If it is the set and you want to try your hand at fixing it >>> then get a bright light and a magnifying glass and look for cracks >>> or dark spots in the solder connections at the tuner. Usually it >>> will be a part that runs warm and is moving back and forth when >>> the set is on or off or maybe a single sided board without enough >>> solder. Just heat up the connection and run some solder into any >>> connection that looks suspicious. Also check for discolored >>> connections. They could be the cause too but no guarantee. Please >>> make sure to unplug the TV not just turn it off just to be safe... >>> Another idea would be to post this on sci.electronics.repair and >>> make sure to leave the full model number...There are some >>> excellent techs over there and you might just have a well known >>> bug with an easy fix.....good luck... >>> >>> >> >> Note that CRT TVs have large capacitors with large voltages that >> hold their charge for a long time. >> >> An unplugged TV is not necessarily safe... >> >> Gino >> >> -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) >> letters617blochg3251 >> replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom" > This is true and those experienced in the electronic field would know > this....The OP indicated that he knew something about electrical repair so it > was not mentioned.... wouldn't hurt to mention it. I have had a couple of nasty shocks from unplugged TVs, but I did survive - perhaps :) Gino -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251 (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")
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"Gene E. Bloch" <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote in message Damm that hurts doesn't it!....news:mn.639f7d5a671bb797.1980@nobody.invalid... > On 10/11/2005, Ross Mac managed to type: >> "Gene E. Bloch" <hamburger@NOT_SPAM.invalid> wrote in message >> news:Xns96EBAE66D9C7FAstrolabe@216.196.97.136... >>> "Ross Mac" <this.is.a.mung@example.invalid> wrote in >>> news:ZOOdndpOrtXt9dTenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com: >>> >>>> >>>> <rhino***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:1128867269.709583.122950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >>>>>I have an intermittent static problem on one tv in my house. When >>>>> watching cable short and annoying blasts of video and audio >>>>> static occur repeatedly until I give trying to watch. Or >>>>> ometimes it only happens once a day and will be days before it >>>>> happens again. Two diffent cable tech say it is the tv. The >>>>> other tv in the house does not have this problem. I finally >>>>> switched our second tv with the one that has the problem and the >>>>> static has not happened since. >>>>> >>>>> The tv with the problem is a 31" Toshiba. When playing dvd's >>>>> (using either the svid or composite video input) the image is >>>>> perfect the static never intrudes. >>>>> >>>>> If the problem was in that line (wiring or connections) then I >>>>> believe the problem would occur on whatever tv was in use in that >>>>> room. I am left to believe that the problem must be in the cable >>>>> ready portion of the tv. Anyone know any common problems or >>>>> thing I should check on the cable ready board?? >>>>> >>>>> I can check and replace electronics, I work on pinball machines. >>>>> But I have schematics and know the common pinball aliments. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Dug >>>>> >>>> >>>> My guess would be connections as others have posted. Whether at >>>> the splitter or in the set. Try testing the set at a neighbors >>>> house. If it is the set and you want to try your hand at fixing it >>>> then get a bright light and a magnifying glass and look for cracks >>>> or dark spots in the solder connections at the tuner. Usually it >>>> will be a part that runs warm and is moving back and forth when >>>> the set is on or off or maybe a single sided board without enough >>>> solder. Just heat up the connection and run some solder into any >>>> connection that looks suspicious. Also check for discolored >>>> connections. They could be the cause too but no guarantee. Please >>>> make sure to unplug the TV not just turn it off just to be safe... >>>> Another idea would be to post this on sci.electronics.repair and >>>> make sure to leave the full model number...There are some >>>> excellent techs over there and you might just have a well known >>>> bug with an easy fix.....good luck... >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Note that CRT TVs have large capacitors with large voltages that >>> hold their charge for a long time. >>> >>> An unplugged TV is not necessarily safe... >>> >>> Gino >>> >>> -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) >>> letters617blochg3251 >>> replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom" >> This is true and those experienced in the electronic field would know >> this....The OP indicated that he knew something about electrical repair >> so it was not mentioned.... > > The OP might not be the only one reading this thread, so I felt it > wouldn't hurt to mention it. > > I have had a couple of nasty shocks from unplugged TVs, but I did > survive - perhaps :) > > Gino > > -- > Gene E. Bloch (Gino) > letters617blochg3251 > (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") > > On 10/13/2005, Ross Mac managed to type:
Show quoteHide quote > "Gene E. Bloch" <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote in message It is definitely not fun. I've also gotten too close to spark plug > news:mn.639f7d5a671bb797.1980@nobody.invalid... >> On 10/11/2005, Ross Mac managed to type: >>> "Gene E. Bloch" <hamburger@NOT_SPAM.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:Xns96EBAE66D9C7FAstrolabe@216.196.97.136... >>>> "Ross Mac" <this.is.a.mung@example.invalid> wrote in >>>> news:ZOOdndpOrtXt9dTenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> <rhino***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:1128867269.709583.122950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>I have an intermittent static problem on one tv in my house. When >>>>>> watching cable short and annoying blasts of video and audio >>>>>> static occur repeatedly until I give trying to watch. Or >>>>>> ometimes it only happens once a day and will be days before it >>>>>> happens again. Two diffent cable tech say it is the tv. The >>>>>> other tv in the house does not have this problem. I finally >>>>>> switched our second tv with the one that has the problem and the >>>>>> static has not happened since. >>>>>> >>>>>> The tv with the problem is a 31" Toshiba. When playing dvd's >>>>>> (using either the svid or composite video input) the image is >>>>>> perfect the static never intrudes. >>>>>> >>>>>> If the problem was in that line (wiring or connections) then I >>>>>> believe the problem would occur on whatever tv was in use in that >>>>>> room. I am left to believe that the problem must be in the cable >>>>>> ready portion of the tv. Anyone know any common problems or >>>>>> thing I should check on the cable ready board?? >>>>>> >>>>>> I can check and replace electronics, I work on pinball machines. >>>>>> But I have schematics and know the common pinball aliments. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Dug >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My guess would be connections as others have posted. Whether at >>>>> the splitter or in the set. Try testing the set at a neighbors >>>>> house. If it is the set and you want to try your hand at fixing it >>>>> then get a bright light and a magnifying glass and look for cracks >>>>> or dark spots in the solder connections at the tuner. Usually it >>>>> will be a part that runs warm and is moving back and forth when >>>>> the set is on or off or maybe a single sided board without enough >>>>> solder. Just heat up the connection and run some solder into any >>>>> connection that looks suspicious. Also check for discolored >>>>> connections. They could be the cause too but no guarantee. Please >>>>> make sure to unplug the TV not just turn it off just to be safe... >>>>> Another idea would be to post this on sci.electronics.repair and >>>>> make sure to leave the full model number...There are some >>>>> excellent techs over there and you might just have a well known >>>>> bug with an easy fix.....good luck... >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Note that CRT TVs have large capacitors with large voltages that >>>> hold their charge for a long time. >>>> >>>> An unplugged TV is not necessarily safe... >>>> >>>> Gino >>>> >>>> -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) >>>> letters617blochg3251 >>>> replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom" >>> This is true and those experienced in the electronic field would know >>> this....The OP indicated that he knew something about electrical repair so >>> it was not mentioned.... >> >> The OP might not be the only one reading this thread, so I felt it wouldn't >> hurt to mention it. >> >> I have had a couple of nasty shocks from unplugged TVs, but I did survive - >> perhaps :) >> >> Gino >> >> -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) >> letters617blochg3251 >> (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") >> >> > Damm that hurts doesn't it!.... wires. That should be avoided too. I guess if I had continued to make a habit of it, my nickname would be Sparky instead of Gino :-) Sp...I mean Gino -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251 (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") After you awapped tvs and the problem did not reoccur, did you go back
to the original location for each set, or did you leave them swapped? That is crucial to know before we make further prognoses. H. R. Hofmann After you swapped tvs and the problem did not reoccur, did you go back
to the original location for each set, or did you leave them swapped? That is crucial to know before we make further prognoses. H. R. Hofmann After you swapped tvs and the problem did not reoccur, did you go back
to the original location for each set, or did you leave them swapped? That is crucial to know before we make further prognoses. H. R. Hofmann <hrhofm***@att.net> wrote in message
news:1128994709.250676.74650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... Is there an echo in here??> After you swapped tvs and the problem did not reoccur, did you go back > to the original location for each set, or did you leave them swapped? > That is crucial to know before we make further prognoses. > > H. R. Hofmann > After you swapped tvs and the problem did not reoccur, did you go back
to the original location for each set, or did you leave them swapped? That is crucial to know before we make further prognoses. H. R. Hofmann I swapped in a different tv. I did not carry the 31" downstairs. The
new set did not have any static at any time. I tried what electricitym man suggested: reconnecting the old tv and using the vcr tuner. And experienced 2+ days of no static whatsoever. But the static has returned. To be very clear the connection is wall-digital box-vcr (vcr on, vcr on vcr not tv, set to channel 4)-tv channel 4. And I am using coaxial cable all the way trough. I believe electricitym had intended that I use the composite output from the vcr and bypass the tv's coax/tuner completely. I will do that as a last resort but the tv is a bit older and only has coax and s-video/composite inputs. I will next try to open the unit and inspect grounds and soder joints. I won't be able to get to it until sunday, thanks to everyone for their input. DC hrhofm***@att.net wrote: Show quoteHide quote > After you swapped tvs and the problem did not reoccur, did you go back > to the original location for each set, or did you leave them swapped? > That is crucial to know before we make further prognoses. > > H. R. Hofmann if you know what the tuner looks like, and you are not an expert,
don't open the tuner...just squeeze the cover of the tuner a few times and see if that fixes the problem for a few weeks,,, if it does then you know you need to get a tech to open the tuner and clean the ground contacts to the cover... Mark 
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