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Author
4 Oct 2005 3:42 AM
amirh7
I'm planning to sell a series of educational videos on DVD on a (fairly
low volume) make-to-order basis. Can anyone tell me what type of set-up
I'll need to reliably duplicate/produce the discs?


Many thanks!
AH

Author
4 Oct 2005 12:35 PM
Dimitrios Tzortzakakis
--
Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
? <ami***@gmail.com> ?????? ??? ??????
news:1128397339.959544.111380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I'm planning to sell a series of educational videos on DVD on a (fairly
> low volume) make-to-order basis. Can anyone tell me what type of set-up
> I'll need to reliably duplicate/produce the discs?
>
>
> Many thanks!
> AH
>
There are special server-like computer assemblies dedicated to this.I
suppose it's just a powerful computer with many DVD-recorder drives...
Author
4 Oct 2005 3:39 PM
amirh7
I'm talking really low volume for just a few titles - ie, a few orders
a week. If I have the master discs, what's the most inexpensive setup
to just duplicate (eg, with those "lightscribe" able drives) them
reliably?

Dimitrios Tzortzakakis wrote:
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> --
> Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
> major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician
> FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
> dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
> ? <ami***@gmail.com> ?????? ??? ??????
> news:1128397339.959544.111380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > I'm planning to sell a series of educational videos on DVD on a (fairly
> > low volume) make-to-order basis. Can anyone tell me what type of set-up
> > I'll need to reliably duplicate/produce the discs?
> >
> >
> > Many thanks!
> > AH
> >
> There are special server-like computer assemblies dedicated to this.I
> suppose it's just a powerful computer with many DVD-recorder drives...
Author
4 Oct 2005 4:27 PM
PTravel
<ami***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1128440390.689665.157580@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> I'm talking really low volume for just a few titles - ie, a few orders
> a week. If I have the master discs, what's the most inexpensive setup
> to just duplicate (eg, with those "lightscribe" able drives) them
> reliably?

A PC with a fast DVD drive will do just fine.  I have a Sony dual-layer 16x
drive in my main PC.  Last summer, I had to turn out 25 2-DVD sets of a
project that I did.  Took very little time -- 4-5 minutes for each DVD,
another 2 minutes to print the labels and a final 3 minutes to print the
cover for the box.


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>
> Dimitrios Tzortzakakis wrote:
>> --
>> Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
>> major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician
>> FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
>> dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
>> ? <ami***@gmail.com> ?????? ??? ??????
>> news:1128397339.959544.111380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > I'm planning to sell a series of educational videos on DVD on a (fairly
>> > low volume) make-to-order basis. Can anyone tell me what type of set-up
>> > I'll need to reliably duplicate/produce the discs?
>> >
>> >
>> > Many thanks!
>> > AH
>> >
>> There are special server-like computer assemblies dedicated to this.I
>> suppose it's just a powerful computer with many DVD-recorder drives...
>
Author
4 Oct 2005 8:18 PM
Laurence Payne
On 4 Oct 2005 08:39:50 -0700, ami***@gmail.com wrote:

>
>I'm talking really low volume for just a few titles - ie, a few orders
>a week. If I have the master discs, what's the most inexpensive setup
>to just duplicate (eg, with those "lightscribe" able drives) them
>reliably?

Probably the computer you're reading this on :-)   As long as it isn't
too old.   If it hasn't got a DVD writer, put one in.  They're
surprisingly cheap.   Pioneer, NEC.....

Look at this site
http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk/acatalog/drivescddvd.html

Maybe not your territory.  But if they offer an item, I'm confident it
will be reliable.  Gives you an idea what to look for.
Author
5 Oct 2005 10:33 AM
amirh7
Thanks for the reply. I'm just concerned that there should be no
chance of any defects resulting, since we're distributing these DVD's
to school libraries. In the past, I've duplicated VCDs on desktop
computers and some
appeared to have visual glitches (eg, a pixilated image).

Also, does anyone have experience with Lightscribe enabled DVD drives?
Can they
be set to produce a company logo and titles to professional-looking
standards?


Laurence Payne wrote:
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> On 4 Oct 2005 08:39:50 -0700, ami***@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
> >I'm talking really low volume for just a few titles - ie, a few orders
> >a week. If I have the master discs, what's the most inexpensive setup
> >to just duplicate (eg, with those "lightscribe" able drives) them
> >reliably?
>
> Probably the computer you're reading this on :-)   As long as it isn't
> too old.   If it hasn't got a DVD writer, put one in.  They're
> surprisingly cheap.   Pioneer, NEC.....
>
> Look at this site
> http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk/acatalog/drivescddvd.html
>
> Maybe not your territory.  But if they offer an item, I'm confident it
> will be reliable.  Gives you an idea what to look for.
Author
5 Oct 2005 4:22 PM
PTravel
<ami***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Thanks for the reply. I'm just concerned that there should be no
> chance of any defects resulting, since we're distributing these DVD's
> to school libraries. In the past, I've duplicated VCDs on desktop
> computers and some
> appeared to have visual glitches (eg, a pixilated image).

A DVD is a digital device -- either the data was transcribed to it correctly
or not.  There will be no difference in video quality whether the DVD was
burned on a burner or pressed from a glass master.

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>
> Also, does anyone have experience with Lightscribe enabled DVD drives?
> Can they
> be set to produce a company logo and titles to professional-looking
> standards?
>
>
> Laurence Payne wrote:
>> On 4 Oct 2005 08:39:50 -0700, ami***@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >I'm talking really low volume for just a few titles - ie, a few orders
>> >a week. If I have the master discs, what's the most inexpensive setup
>> >to just duplicate (eg, with those "lightscribe" able drives) them
>> >reliably?
>>
>> Probably the computer you're reading this on :-)   As long as it isn't
>> too old.   If it hasn't got a DVD writer, put one in.  They're
>> surprisingly cheap.   Pioneer, NEC.....
>>
>> Look at this site
>> http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk/acatalog/drivescddvd.html
>>
>> Maybe not your territory.  But if they offer an item, I'm confident it
>> will be reliable.  Gives you an idea what to look for.
>
Author
8 Oct 2005 12:45 AM
Laurence Payne
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:22:46 -0700, "PTravel"
<ptravel88-use***@yahoo.com> wrote:

>A DVD is a digital device -- either the data was transcribed to it correctly
>or not.  There will be no difference in video quality whether the DVD was
>burned on a burner or pressed from a glass master.

You've obviously never burned a DVD :-)

DVD burning is at the same stage of development as CD burning was a
few years ago.   You have to find a combination of hardware and media
that work well together.   And you are better off with newer (not
necessarily more expensive) players.   That's why I recommended a
particular source, who do seem to take pride in knowing what media
work well with what hardware.

You can now be fairly confident in sending out a burnt CD - it will
play on the vast majority of currently-used equipment.    In a year or
two we will be just as confident regarding DVDs.  But not yet.   There
are players out there that are just plain ornery :-)     Burning on
dedicated  "professional" hardware doesn't really make much
difference.
Author
8 Oct 2005 3:52 AM
ptravel
Laurence Payne wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:22:46 -0700, "PTravel"
> <ptravel88-use***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >A DVD is a digital device -- either the data was transcribed to it correctly
> >or not.  There will be no difference in video quality whether the DVD was
> >burned on a burner or pressed from a glass master.
>
> You've obviously never burned a DVD :-)

Yeah, right -- try again.  I've burned hundreds of DVDs (I have three
burners in my studio).  I've captured and edited hundreds of hours of
digital video.

Here's some fundamental information for you:

A DVD consists of digital video formatted as mpeg2 (a digital
compression standard).  The data on the DVD is either present or not,
readable or not.  If it is present and readable, it doesn't matter what
kind of DVD it is on, because the data is exactly the same.  If the
data is not present and readable, then there is no picture (or whatever
device you're using to read the data will lock-up, freeze, pixelate or
some combination of all three).

A DVD burned on a cheapie special will have exactly the same video
quality as a DVD burned on the most expensive brand-name disk you can
find.  You won't get better color, sharper pictures or higher
resolution.  It's all the same.

The cheapie DVD may not last as long, or may result in more burning
errors (which equals more coasters), but the quality of the video is
identical.


>
> DVD burning is at the same stage of development as CD burning was a
> few years ago.

A completely meaningless statement.  CD burning a few years ago was, as
it is today, a reliable means of storing and transferring digital data.

> You have to find a combination of hardware and media
> that work well together.

Apparently, you haven't burned many DVDs (or, for that matter, CDs).
Unless you're buying unbranded junk (both hardware and media), or
you're using an under-powered computer or an obsolete OS, burning DVDs
is very simple, and very reliable.

> And you are better off with newer (not
> necessarily more expensive) players.

A misleading statement.  "Newer" players will read burned DVDs better,
because burned DVDs, as opposed to those made from glass masters, use
dyes instead of pits.  Virtually any player made within the last 5
years will work just fine.

> That's why I recommended a
> particular source, who do seem to take pride in knowing what media
> work well with what hardware.

Yes, that's nice.  Perhaps if you understood the technology, your
recommendations might be worth a bit more.

>
> You can now be fairly confident in sending out a burnt CD - it will
> play on the vast majority of currently-used equipment.    In a year or
> two we will be just as confident regarding DVDs.  But not yet.

Nonsense.  As long as the player is less than 5 years old, it should
play any _properly_ authored DVD, i.e. one that is compliant with the
DVD spec.


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>  There
> are players out there that are just plain ornery :-)     Burning on
> dedicated  "professional" hardware doesn't really make much
> difference.
Author
12 Oct 2005 4:05 AM
amirh7
I'm just trying to get to the root of the problems we're having. We had
one guy produce a corporate video for us and the DVD he gave us to
screen would skip
at many points. He said it was because he burned it on his home
computer and not on a professional DVD burner. Is it then a problem
with the burner, the video card, the codec?


ptra***@travelersvideo.com wrote:
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> Laurence Payne wrote:
> > On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:22:46 -0700, "PTravel"
> > <ptravel88-use***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >A DVD is a digital device -- either the data was transcribed to it correctly
> > >or not.  There will be no difference in video quality whether the DVD was
> > >burned on a burner or pressed from a glass master.
> >
> > You've obviously never burned a DVD :-)
>
> Yeah, right -- try again.  I've burned hundreds of DVDs (I have three
> burners in my studio).  I've captured and edited hundreds of hours of
> digital video.
>
> Here's some fundamental information for you:
>
> A DVD consists of digital video formatted as mpeg2 (a digital
> compression standard).  The data on the DVD is either present or not,
> readable or not.  If it is present and readable, it doesn't matter what
> kind of DVD it is on, because the data is exactly the same.  If the
> data is not present and readable, then there is no picture (or whatever
> device you're using to read the data will lock-up, freeze, pixelate or
> some combination of all three).
>
> A DVD burned on a cheapie special will have exactly the same video
> quality as a DVD burned on the most expensive brand-name disk you can
> find.  You won't get better color, sharper pictures or higher
> resolution.  It's all the same.
>
> The cheapie DVD may not last as long, or may result in more burning
> errors (which equals more coasters), but the quality of the video is
> identical.
>
>
> >
> > DVD burning is at the same stage of development as CD burning was a
> > few years ago.
>
> A completely meaningless statement.  CD burning a few years ago was, as
> it is today, a reliable means of storing and transferring digital data.
>
> > You have to find a combination of hardware and media
> > that work well together.
>
> Apparently, you haven't burned many DVDs (or, for that matter, CDs).
> Unless you're buying unbranded junk (both hardware and media), or
> you're using an under-powered computer or an obsolete OS, burning DVDs
> is very simple, and very reliable.
>
> > And you are better off with newer (not
> > necessarily more expensive) players.
>
> A misleading statement.  "Newer" players will read burned DVDs better,
> because burned DVDs, as opposed to those made from glass masters, use
> dyes instead of pits.  Virtually any player made within the last 5
> years will work just fine.
>
> > That's why I recommended a
> > particular source, who do seem to take pride in knowing what media
> > work well with what hardware.
>
> Yes, that's nice.  Perhaps if you understood the technology, your
> recommendations might be worth a bit more.
>
> >
> > You can now be fairly confident in sending out a burnt CD - it will
> > play on the vast majority of currently-used equipment.    In a year or
> > two we will be just as confident regarding DVDs.  But not yet.
>
> Nonsense.  As long as the player is less than 5 years old, it should
> play any _properly_ authored DVD, i.e. one that is compliant with the
> DVD spec.
>
>
> >  There
> > are players out there that are just plain ornery :-)     Burning on
> > dedicated  "professional" hardware doesn't really make much
> > difference.
Author
12 Oct 2005 4:52 PM
PTravel
<ami***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1129089913.809741.110030@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I'm just trying to get to the root of the problems we're having. We had
> one guy produce a corporate video for us and the DVD he gave us to
> screen would skip
> at many points. He said it was because he burned it on his home
> computer and not on a professional DVD burner. Is it then a problem
> with the burner, the video card, the codec?

Possibly the burner, more likely the media, i.e. cheap DVD.  Could also be
the player.  It's not the video card or the codec.


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>
>
> ptra***@travelersvideo.com wrote:
>> Laurence Payne wrote:
>> > On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:22:46 -0700, "PTravel"
>> > <ptravel88-use***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >A DVD is a digital device -- either the data was transcribed to it
>> > >correctly
>> > >or not.  There will be no difference in video quality whether the DVD
>> > >was
>> > >burned on a burner or pressed from a glass master.
>> >
>> > You've obviously never burned a DVD :-)
>>
>> Yeah, right -- try again.  I've burned hundreds of DVDs (I have three
>> burners in my studio).  I've captured and edited hundreds of hours of
>> digital video.
>>
>> Here's some fundamental information for you:
>>
>> A DVD consists of digital video formatted as mpeg2 (a digital
>> compression standard).  The data on the DVD is either present or not,
>> readable or not.  If it is present and readable, it doesn't matter what
>> kind of DVD it is on, because the data is exactly the same.  If the
>> data is not present and readable, then there is no picture (or whatever
>> device you're using to read the data will lock-up, freeze, pixelate or
>> some combination of all three).
>>
>> A DVD burned on a cheapie special will have exactly the same video
>> quality as a DVD burned on the most expensive brand-name disk you can
>> find.  You won't get better color, sharper pictures or higher
>> resolution.  It's all the same.
>>
>> The cheapie DVD may not last as long, or may result in more burning
>> errors (which equals more coasters), but the quality of the video is
>> identical.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > DVD burning is at the same stage of development as CD burning was a
>> > few years ago.
>>
>> A completely meaningless statement.  CD burning a few years ago was, as
>> it is today, a reliable means of storing and transferring digital data.
>>
>> > You have to find a combination of hardware and media
>> > that work well together.
>>
>> Apparently, you haven't burned many DVDs (or, for that matter, CDs).
>> Unless you're buying unbranded junk (both hardware and media), or
>> you're using an under-powered computer or an obsolete OS, burning DVDs
>> is very simple, and very reliable.
>>
>> > And you are better off with newer (not
>> > necessarily more expensive) players.
>>
>> A misleading statement.  "Newer" players will read burned DVDs better,
>> because burned DVDs, as opposed to those made from glass masters, use
>> dyes instead of pits.  Virtually any player made within the last 5
>> years will work just fine.
>>
>> > That's why I recommended a
>> > particular source, who do seem to take pride in knowing what media
>> > work well with what hardware.
>>
>> Yes, that's nice.  Perhaps if you understood the technology, your
>> recommendations might be worth a bit more.
>>
>> >
>> > You can now be fairly confident in sending out a burnt CD - it will
>> > play on the vast majority of currently-used equipment.    In a year or
>> > two we will be just as confident regarding DVDs.  But not yet.
>>
>> Nonsense.  As long as the player is less than 5 years old, it should
>> play any _properly_ authored DVD, i.e. one that is compliant with the
>> DVD spec.
>>
>>
>> >  There
>> > are players out there that are just plain ornery :-)     Burning on
>> > dedicated  "professional" hardware doesn't really make much
>> > difference.
>