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UVW 1200 to EVO 9720

Author
3 Aug 2005 8:00 PM
parvardigar
My quest is to play from the UVW 1200 player into the EVO Hi 8 9720
duplicator to create a Hi 8 copy of the BetaSP. Information is scarce
on my topic. For those who use these machines regularly it's fairly
uncomplicated to setup and get started.

I inherited a task from the church group to copy their collection of
BetaSPs. They let me use this UVW 1200. It was just returned from the
VTR repair shop. Working as new.

What I intended to do was run the s video out + xlr > rca from the UVW
1200 into the Canopus ADVC100 into the video card for Adobe Premiere
Pro, and Capture. I would than run the AVI back from Premiere into the
Sony Analog Camera to create a Hi8 copy. That's one method to create
an archive backup Hi8 copy. With the avi on the computer I' could also
author and create a DVD documentary. I've been running the church
groups Hi8 inventory through the ADVC 100 to DV capture, edit and
author. However, it's the BetaSP player, and the BetaSP media
inventory.

We need to create archive copies. That would be BetaSP to Hi8. Here's
where I may find salvation. I have the UVW 1200... and a EVO 9720 Hi 8
tape duplicator. I've used the EVO 9720 Hi8 duplicator to copy Hi 8 to
Hi8. Is it possible to hook up UVW 1200 s video out + xlr > rca out to
the EVO 9720? For an experiment I ran the s video out from the UVW into
S video in on the EVO. With everything powered up the view on the
monitor was the usual empty screen.  I than played the video. A few
gray bands appeared. I must be doing something wrong, and that can be
corrected. I should be able to setup the UVW 1200 as a player and the
EVO 9720 as a Recorder? It seems I'm on the right track. All I need is
to figure out the flow of audio/video cables, menu options, and correct
button configuration. Any thought on this topic will be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks
Chuck M

Author
3 Aug 2005 11:14 PM
Cail Young
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On 4/8/05 6:00 AM, "parvardi***@yahoo.com" <parvardi***@yahoo.com> wrote:

> My quest is to play from the UVW 1200 player into the EVO Hi 8 9720
> duplicator to create a Hi 8 copy of the BetaSP. Information is scarce
> on my topic. For those who use these machines regularly it's fairly
> uncomplicated to setup and get started.
>
> I inherited a task from the church group to copy their collection of
> BetaSPs. They let me use this UVW 1200. It was just returned from the
> VTR repair shop. Working as new.
>
> What I intended to do was run the s video out + xlr > rca from the UVW
> 1200 into the Canopus ADVC100 into the video card for Adobe Premiere
> Pro, and Capture. I would than run the AVI back from Premiere into the
> Sony Analog Camera to create a Hi8 copy. That's one method to create
> an archive backup Hi8 copy. With the avi on the computer I' could also
> author and create a DVD documentary. I've been running the church
> groups Hi8 inventory through the ADVC 100 to DV capture, edit and
> author. However, it's the BetaSP player, and the BetaSP media
> inventory.
>
> We need to create archive copies. That would be BetaSP to Hi8. Here's
> where I may find salvation. I have the UVW 1200... and a EVO 9720 Hi 8
> tape duplicator. I've used the EVO 9720 Hi8 duplicator to copy Hi 8 to
> Hi8. Is it possible to hook up UVW 1200 s video out + xlr > rca out to
> the EVO 9720? For an experiment I ran the s video out from the UVW into
> S video in on the EVO. With everything powered up the view on the
> monitor was the usual empty screen.  I than played the video. A few
> gray bands appeared. I must be doing something wrong, and that can be
> corrected. I should be able to setup the UVW 1200 as a player and the
> EVO 9720 as a Recorder? It seems I'm on the right track. All I need is
> to figure out the flow of audio/video cables, menu options, and correct
> button configuration. Any thought on this topic will be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Chuck M
>

Make sure the Hi8 deck has S-Video selected as its input.

As an aside, why are you archiving to Hi8? BetaSP is a superior archival
format.
Author
4 Aug 2005 2:12 PM
parvardigar
I'm sorry for being slightly unclear. This church group did go to the
expense of archiving BetaSP to BetaSP from a professional dubbing lab.
Those are the stored archives. To create an edited, authored DVD
Documentary our intent is to create Hi8 working copies. It's with these
working copies that we'll import into the computer. With these avi
documentaries we'll edit in Premiere, fix the sound in Audition, Create
Menus in Photoshop, finalize the project in Encore.
The intent is to take our best lectures, clean them up, enchance them
and so forth, and create a lending library of circulating DVD
Documentary Movies.

Thanks
Chuck M
Author
4 Aug 2005 3:00 PM
Cail Young
On 5/8/05 12:12 AM, "parvardi***@yahoo.com" <parvardi***@yahoo.com> wrote:

> To create an edited, authored DVD
> Documentary our intent is to create Hi8 working copies. It's with these
> working copies that we'll import into the computer. With these avi
> documentaries we'll edit in Premiere, fix the sound in Audition, Create
> Menus in Photoshop, finalize the project in Encore.

Why not capture direct from BetaSP? Going through Hi8 is going to cramp your
quality somewhat. Depending on how much footage we're talking about, you may
be able to get the dub place to either put it on hard drive or DV tape,
which will be nearly lossless from BetaSP (especially since you're going to
MPEG-2 anyway)

My guess is that you only have a D-8 or Hi8 deck with analogue capture. If
it's the former, I strongly suggest you find some way to get DV capture
working. If its the latter, use a Beta deck directly to analogue capture -
you've already made your archival copies so the original Beta stock should
be usable, no?

Cail
Author
4 Aug 2005 8:26 PM
parvardigar
I ran s video out from the UVW through Canopus and captured DV to the
harddrive. That works. I'll option that method. What I don't understand
is the Audio out Ch 1 Ch 2. Do I run a XLR cable from CH 1 with dual
RCA connectors (red/white)into the DV capture device? The manual I have
indicates no information on CH 1 Ch 2 expect that there audio ports.

Thanks
Chuck M

Cail Young wrote:
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> On 5/8/05 12:12 AM, "parvardi***@yahoo.com" <parvardi***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > To create an edited, authored DVD
> > Documentary our intent is to create Hi8 working copies. It's with these
> > working copies that we'll import into the computer. With these avi
> > documentaries we'll edit in Premiere, fix the sound in Audition, Create
> > Menus in Photoshop, finalize the project in Encore.
>
> Why not capture direct from BetaSP? Going through Hi8 is going to cramp your
> quality somewhat. Depending on how much footage we're talking about, you may
> be able to get the dub place to either put it on hard drive or DV tape,
> which will be nearly lossless from BetaSP (especially since you're going to
> MPEG-2 anyway)
>
> My guess is that you only have a D-8 or Hi8 deck with analogue capture. If
> it's the former, I strongly suggest you find some way to get DV capture
> working. If its the latter, use a Beta deck directly to analogue capture -
> you've already made your archival copies so the original Beta stock should
> be usable, no?
>
> Cail
Author
5 Aug 2005 2:39 PM
Bill Fright
parvardi***@yahoo.com wrote:

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> I ran s video out from the UVW through Canopus and captured DV to the
> harddrive. That works. I'll option that method. What I don't understand
> is the Audio out Ch 1 Ch 2. Do I run a XLR cable from CH 1 with dual
> RCA connectors (red/white)into the DV capture device? The manual I have
> indicates no information on CH 1 Ch 2 expect that there audio ports.
>
> Thanks
> Chuck M
>
> Cail Young wrote:
>
>>On 5/8/05 12:12 AM, "parvardi***@yahoo.com" <parvardi***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>To create an edited, authored DVD
>>>Documentary our intent is to create Hi8 working copies. It's with these
>>>working copies that we'll import into the computer. With these avi
>>>documentaries we'll edit in Premiere, fix the sound in Audition, Create
>>>Menus in Photoshop, finalize the project in Encore.
>>
>>Why not capture direct from BetaSP? Going through Hi8 is going to cramp your
>>quality somewhat. Depending on how much footage we're talking about, you may
>>be able to get the dub place to either put it on hard drive or DV tape,
>>which will be nearly lossless from BetaSP (especially since you're going to
>>MPEG-2 anyway)
>>
>>My guess is that you only have a D-8 or Hi8 deck with analogue capture. If
>>it's the former, I strongly suggest you find some way to get DV capture
>>working. If its the latter, use a Beta deck directly to analogue capture -
>>you've already made your archival copies so the original Beta stock should
>>be usable, no?
>>
>>Cail
>
>

Good for you on the direct capture from betacam. External hard drives
are so cheap now that it's very doable.

I'd borrow, rent or steal a little audio board (Mackie or something) to
go from XLR (balanced) to RCA (unbalanced). If you can't get an audio
board I'd look on the back of the 1200 and adjust the switch next to the
connectors to get a line level.

Before you start all this capturing spend some extra time to be sure
your levels are set right. If you don't have bars on the tapes you're
capturing from find a tape with bars and set it up and compare.

good luck