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Do not order through www.bestpricecameras.com
Last week I put ordered a camcorder at www.bestpricecamers.com. Their price seemed the lowest. The first suprise was that their shipping cost starts 1t $50 and then for next day delivery they charge $150. My husband wanted the camcorder for the weekend and their price was still the best. I put the order and the next day, I get a call if I want an extra battery and I they tried to use pressure tactics to sell me extra accessories at inflated prices. I declined and asked to keep my original order. After 3 days, I called back and they claimed that they are out of stock. I cancelled the order. They were very unappologetic about the whole thing. They really suck. Be careful if you plan to shop at their store. Arianna
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In rec.video.desktop arianna <arianna.macdou***@hotmail.com> wrote: Show quoteHide quote : Hi, : Last week I put ordered a camcorder at www.bestpricecamers.com. Their : price seemed the lowest. The first suprise was that their shipping cost : starts 1t $50 and then for next day delivery they charge $150. My : husband wanted the camcorder for the weekend and their price was still : the best. I put the order and the next day, I get a call if I want an : extra battery and I they tried to use pressure tactics to sell me extra : accessories at inflated prices. I declined and asked to keep my : original order. : After 3 days, I called back and they claimed that they are out of : stock. I cancelled the order. They were very unappologetic about the : whole thing. They really suck. Be careful if you plan to shop at their : store. : Arianna When will people ever learn not to buy from crooks.
Buy it at a local store, no shipping, you get it in your hands before you pay, and take it back if it breaks. You get what you pay for. The Net is full of crooks. <sgor***@changethisparttohardbat.com> wrote in message Show quoteHide quote news:9WdEe.5282$p%3.29659@typhoon.sonic.net... > > http://www.resellerratings.com > > > In rec.video.desktop arianna <arianna.macdou***@hotmail.com> wrote: > : Hi, > > : Last week I put ordered a camcorder at www.bestpricecamers.com. Their > : price seemed the lowest. The first suprise was that their shipping cost > : starts 1t $50 and then for next day delivery they charge $150. My > : husband wanted the camcorder for the weekend and their price was still > : the best. I put the order and the next day, I get a call if I want an > : extra battery and I they tried to use pressure tactics to sell me extra > : accessories at inflated prices. I declined and asked to keep my > : original order. > > : After 3 days, I called back and they claimed that they are out of > : stock. I cancelled the order. They were very unappologetic about the > : whole thing. They really suck. Be careful if you plan to shop at their > : store. > > : Arianna > "SteveJ" <S*@comcast.net> wrote in message You must live in area with a low sales tax. ;)news:vtGdnbhdcOlG43zfRVn-uQ@comcast.com... > When will people ever learn not to buy from crooks. > Buy it at a local store, no shipping, you get it in your hands before you > pay, and take it back if it breaks. > You get what you pay for. The Net is full of crooks. B&H and Adorama are bullet-proof choices, both reputable and with liberal return policies, and for those of us in expensive cities, shipping is far less than sales tax on expensive items. Show quoteHide quote > > > > <sgor***@changethisparttohardbat.com> wrote in message > news:9WdEe.5282$p%3.29659@typhoon.sonic.net... > > > > http://www.resellerratings.com > > > > > > In rec.video.desktop arianna <arianna.macdou***@hotmail.com> wrote: > > : Hi, > > > > : Last week I put ordered a camcorder at www.bestpricecamers.com. Their > > : price seemed the lowest. The first suprise was that their shipping cost > > : starts 1t $50 and then for next day delivery they charge $150. My > > : husband wanted the camcorder for the weekend and their price was still > > : the best. I put the order and the next day, I get a call if I want an > > : extra battery and I they tried to use pressure tactics to sell me extra > > : accessories at inflated prices. I declined and asked to keep my > > : original order. > > > > : After 3 days, I called back and they claimed that they are out of > > : stock. I cancelled the order. They were very unappologetic about the > > : whole thing. They really suck. Be careful if you plan to shop at their > > : store. > > > > : Arianna > > > >
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"PTravel" <ptra***@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message I still buy a lot of what I use at the local store. I can try it, compare news:3kddcoFtgb99U1@individual.net... > > "SteveJ" <S*@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:vtGdnbhdcOlG43zfRVn-uQ@comcast.com... >> When will people ever learn not to buy from crooks. >> Buy it at a local store, no shipping, you get it in your hands before you >> pay, and take it back if it breaks. >> You get what you pay for. The Net is full of crooks. > > You must live in area with a low sales tax. ;) > > B&H and Adorama are bullet-proof choices, both reputable and with liberal > return policies, and for those of us in expensive cities, shipping is far > less than sales tax on expensive items. > > >> >> it, and if there's a problem, exchange it with no wait. It's worth the slight premium (7.75% vs shipping) for the security. SteveJ wrote:
> When will people ever learn not to buy from crooks. The net is full of crooks is it? I bought my Fujifilm S7000 for £309 from a > Buy it at a local store, no shipping, you get it in your hands before > you pay, and take it back if it breaks. > You get what you pay for. The Net is full of crooks. > > > > <sgor***@changethisparttohardbat.com> wrote in message > news:9WdEe.5282$p%3.29659@typhoon.sonic.net... >> >> http://www.resellerratings.com >> >> company in England - I've seen it on sale in shops here (Scotland) for more than £450. Same with my camcorder - cheaper online. No shop to upkeep, little overheads on a warehouse - I'd never buy from a shop again. McKev
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"McKev" <scotsman***@hotmail.com> wrote in message £309 from anews:m6IEe.4170$dN6.3065@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk... > SteveJ wrote: > > When will people ever learn not to buy from crooks. > > Buy it at a local store, no shipping, you get it in your hands before > > you pay, and take it back if it breaks. > > You get what you pay for. The Net is full of crooks. > > > > > > > > <sgor***@changethisparttohardbat.com> wrote in message > > news:9WdEe.5282$p%3.29659@typhoon.sonic.net... > >> > >> http://www.resellerratings.com > >> > >> > > The net is full of crooks is it? I bought my Fujifilm S7000 for > company ....and probably 'Grey imports', with no warranty if things go wrong,> in England - I've seen it on sale in shops here (Scotland) for more than > £450. > Same with my camcorder - cheaper online. No shop to upkeep, little overheads > on a > warehouse - I'd never buy from a shop again. > unless your online retailer wants....
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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:18:03 +0100, ":::Jerry::::" <m*@privacy.net> If you insist on buying without learning about the process, then yes,wrote: > >"McKev" <scotsman***@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:m6IEe.4170$dN6.3065@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk... >> SteveJ wrote: >> > When will people ever learn not to buy from crooks. >> > Buy it at a local store, no shipping, you get it in your hands >before >> > you pay, and take it back if it breaks. >> > You get what you pay for. The Net is full of crooks. >> > >> > >> > >> > <sgor***@changethisparttohardbat.com> wrote in message >> > news:9WdEe.5282$p%3.29659@typhoon.sonic.net... >> >> >> >> http://www.resellerratings.com >> >> >> >> >> >> The net is full of crooks is it? I bought my Fujifilm S7000 for >£309 from a >> company >> in England - I've seen it on sale in shops here (Scotland) for more >than >> £450. >> Same with my camcorder - cheaper online. No shop to upkeep, little >overheads >> on a >> warehouse - I'd never buy from a shop again. >> > >...and probably 'Grey imports', with no warranty if things go wrong, >unless your online retailer wants.... > this could well happen. Of course, buying locally is no guarantee of a good experience, either, especially if you buy out of some guy's trunk, just because the price is lower. -- Bill Funk replace "g" with "a" funktionality.blogspot.com
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On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:18:03 +0100, ":::Jerry::::" <m*@privacy.net> If you do your homework on vendors, you can save a lot online and getwrote: > >"McKev" <scotsman***@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:m6IEe.4170$dN6.3065@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk... >> SteveJ wrote: >> > When will people ever learn not to buy from crooks. >> > Buy it at a local store, no shipping, you get it in your hands >before >> > you pay, and take it back if it breaks. >> > You get what you pay for. The Net is full of crooks. >> > >> > >> > >> > <sgor***@changethisparttohardbat.com> wrote in message >> > news:9WdEe.5282$p%3.29659@typhoon.sonic.net... >> >> >> >> http://www.resellerratings.com >> >> >> >> >> >> The net is full of crooks is it? I bought my Fujifilm S7000 for >£309 from a >> company >> in England - I've seen it on sale in shops here (Scotland) for more >than >> £450. >> Same with my camcorder - cheaper online. No shop to upkeep, little >overheads >> on a >> warehouse - I'd never buy from a shop again. >> > >...and probably 'Grey imports', with no warranty if things go wrong, >unless your online retailer wants.... > exactly the same products as in the local stores. and you can also get ripped-off with similiar appearing equipment that lacks
such niceties as warranties... All depends on how much you value your time I suppose. I've yet to find ANY online equipment vendor, either video or still photography, that is appreciably cheaper that isn't trying to rob people. Cheaper yes, appreciably cheaper no. And I've been buying photographic equipment on a professional level for over 20 years. Having said that, there are plenty of decent online dealers, but none of the dramatically discounted ones are on the up and up. None of them. The nature of the industry they're trying to deal in doesn't have the profit margins in it to give the kinds of deals that the crooks try to promote. John Emmons Show quoteHide quote "Oliver Costich" <olc-caNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message news:6t1be1ph6ii2i9pgvfv46l942mr9nkv7na@4ax.com... > On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:18:03 +0100, ":::Jerry::::" <m*@privacy.net> > wrote: > > > > >"McKev" <scotsman***@hotmail.com> wrote in message > >news:m6IEe.4170$dN6.3065@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk... > >> SteveJ wrote: > >> > When will people ever learn not to buy from crooks. > >> > Buy it at a local store, no shipping, you get it in your hands > >before > >> > you pay, and take it back if it breaks. > >> > You get what you pay for. The Net is full of crooks. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > <sgor***@changethisparttohardbat.com> wrote in message > >> > news:9WdEe.5282$p%3.29659@typhoon.sonic.net... > >> >> > >> >> http://www.resellerratings.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> The net is full of crooks is it? I bought my Fujifilm S7000 for > >£309 from a > >> company > >> in England - I've seen it on sale in shops here (Scotland) for more > >than > >> £450. > >> Same with my camcorder - cheaper online. No shop to upkeep, little > >overheads > >> on a > >> warehouse - I'd never buy from a shop again. > >> > > > >...and probably 'Grey imports', with no warranty if things go wrong, > >unless your online retailer wants.... > > > > If you do your homework on vendors, you can save a lot online and get > exactly the same products as in the local stores. On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 01:59:52 GMT, "John Emmons"
<john***@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >and you can also get ripped-off with similiar appearing equipment that lacks Sure, if you're a moron and incapable of distinguishing the reliable>such niceties as warranties... and honest from the scammers. > Using Pricegrabber and resellerratings takes less time than driving to>All depends on how much you value your time I suppose. the local store. > There are more than a few honest discounters online. Even B&H is>I've yet to find ANY online equipment vendor, either video or still >photography, that is appreciably cheaper that isn't trying to rob people. >Cheaper yes, appreciably cheaper no. And I've been buying photographic >equipment on a professional level for over 20 years. > cheaper than the local stores. I bought a D70 Kit and a 28-200mm lens for $1400 from One Call. Local price for exactly the same items with same packaging, accessories, and warrantees was $1770. I don't know if you consider that "appreciably cheaper" but it's significant in my book. Show quoteHide quote >Having said that, there are plenty of decent online dealers, but none of the >dramatically discounted ones are on the up and up. None of them. The nature >of the industry they're trying to deal in doesn't have the profit margins in >it to give the kinds of deals that the crooks try to promote. > >John Emmons >"Oliver Costich" <olc-caNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message >news:6t1be1ph6ii2i9pgvfv46l942mr9nkv7na@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:18:03 +0100, ":::Jerry::::" <m*@privacy.net> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >"McKev" <scotsman***@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >news:m6IEe.4170$dN6.3065@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk... >> >> SteveJ wrote: >> >> > When will people ever learn not to buy from crooks. >> >> > Buy it at a local store, no shipping, you get it in your hands >> >before >> >> > you pay, and take it back if it breaks. >> >> > You get what you pay for. The Net is full of crooks. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > <sgor***@changethisparttohardbat.com> wrote in message >> >> > news:9WdEe.5282$p%3.29659@typhoon.sonic.net... >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.resellerratings.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The net is full of crooks is it? I bought my Fujifilm S7000 for >> >£309 from a >> >> company >> >> in England - I've seen it on sale in shops here (Scotland) for more >> >than >> >> £450. >> >> Same with my camcorder - cheaper online. No shop to upkeep, little >> >overheads >> >> on a >> >> warehouse - I'd never buy from a shop again. >> >> >> > >> >...and probably 'Grey imports', with no warranty if things go wrong, >> >unless your online retailer wants.... >> > >> >> If you do your homework on vendors, you can save a lot online and get >> exactly the same products as in the local stores. > In article <1122056185.180980.78***@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, arianna.
macdou***@hotmail.com says... [SNIP sad, but often repeated story] Arianna, As you have unfortunately learned, the "best price," is not necessarily the " best price." As others have said, checking into the reputation of an organization, especially an on-line organization, is the second step, before attempting to purchase. Most are in business to get your money, maybe your credit card info, and few, it seems, care about actually delivering merchandise, or service. To the list that others have posted, I'd also add Calumet Photo (Chicago/US area), as a good resource. An assistant just got a bum D70s, and Calumet replaced it, before he had sent the offending unit back. Few questions asked. I usually don't really "shop" for lowest price, but will compare amongst tried, and true, performers. I may pay a few extra $'s, but the hassle factor is way, way down. Sorry about your experience. Hope you got a camcorder in time for the event. Hunt "Hunt" <no***@hunt.com> wrote in message <Snip>news:dbs5ia0j02@news2.newsguy.com... > In article <1122056185.180980.78***@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, > arianna. > macdou***@hotmail.com says... > Show quoteHide quote > IIRC, Calumet was an old well established when I visited their shop in 1966.> To the list that others have posted, I'd also add Calumet Photo > (Chicago/US > area), as a good resource. An assistant just got a bum D70s, and Calumet > replaced it, before he had sent the offending unit back. Few questions > asked. > I usually don't really "shop" for lowest price, but will compare amongst > tried, and true, performers. I may pay a few extra $'s, but the hassle > factor > is way, way down. > > Sorry about your experience. Hope you got a camcorder in time for the > event. > > Hunt > I think B&H and Adorama were around back then as well. Old companies are often safer than newer companies. It is still a good Idea to do a little research. David Ironically B&H was once considered to be a part of the gang of rip-off shops
located in New York city. They completely rehabilitated their name and their business practices years ago and now are amongst the finest of mail order sources. One of their managers used to post quite a bit to one of the photography newsgroups, I think he finally stopped after being slandered and insulted too many times by a couple of lying morons. A very nice guy and extremely helpful. John Emmons Show quoteHide quote "David McCall" <david.mccallUNDERL***@comcast.net> wrote in message news:hL6dnZTQf6cSPXzfRVn-3g@comcast.com... > > "Hunt" <no***@hunt.com> wrote in message > news:dbs5ia0j02@news2.newsguy.com... > > In article <1122056185.180980.78***@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, > > arianna. > > macdou***@hotmail.com says... > > > <Snip> > > > > To the list that others have posted, I'd also add Calumet Photo > > (Chicago/US > > area), as a good resource. An assistant just got a bum D70s, and Calumet > > replaced it, before he had sent the offending unit back. Few questions > > asked. > > I usually don't really "shop" for lowest price, but will compare amongst > > tried, and true, performers. I may pay a few extra $'s, but the hassle > > factor > > is way, way down. > > > > Sorry about your experience. Hope you got a camcorder in time for the > > event. > > > > Hunt > > > IIRC, Calumet was an old well established when I visited their shop in 1966. > I think B&H and Adorama were around back then as well. Old companies > are often safer than newer companies. It is still a good Idea to do a little > research. > > David > > John Emmons wrote:
> Ironically B&H was once considered to be a part of the gang of If B&H have their wits about them he's promoted out of > rip-off shops located in New York city. > > They completely rehabilitated their name and their business > practices > years ago and now are amongst the finest of mail order sources. > > One of their managers used to post quite a bit to one of the > photography newsgroups, I think he finally stopped after being > slandered and insulted too many times by a couple of lying morons. > > A very nice guy and extremely helpful. > monitor-the-morons duty. (smile) (not really) -- Frank ess
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"Frank ess" <fr***@fshe2fs.com> wrote in message If you are referring to Henry Posner, I think he was in charge of salesnews:Pq-dnVtzjZKvMnzfRVn-pg@giganews.com... > John Emmons wrote: > > Ironically B&H was once considered to be a part of the gang of > > rip-off shops located in New York city. > > > > They completely rehabilitated their name and their business > > practices > > years ago and now are amongst the finest of mail order sources. > > > > One of their managers used to post quite a bit to one of the > > photography newsgroups, I think he finally stopped after being > > slandered and insulted too many times by a couple of lying morons. > > > > A very nice guy and extremely helpful. > > > > If B&H have their wits about them he's promoted out of > monitor-the-morons duty. (smile) (not really) > > -- > Frank ess > or something like that (he explained his position at one point a year or so ago). Haven't been over to rec.photo.digital for a while (too many other things going), but he was fairly regular there. He refused to get involved in any of the idiots that wanted to argue with him as a general rule, was always polite and generally a good source of information. mikey John Emmons wrote:
> Ironically B&H was once considered to be a part of the gang of rip-off shops If you intend to stay in business for very long, it tends to be more > located in New York city. > > They completely rehabilitated their name and their business practices years > ago and now are amongst the finest of mail order sources. profitable to be honest and reputable. :) Fortuantely I never experienced the bad side of B&H. They're always been great to work with. -- E-mail fudged to thwart spammers. Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply. Thanks for recalling,. B&H has been around for 30+ years. I was a
customer for almost 10 years before I started working here and that was 11 years ago. I cut back on newsgroup visits because it seemed most of the conversations had migrated to web-hosted forums. Neverthess, reading, "A very nice guy and extremely helpful. " was a treat. Thanks Henry Posner B&H Photo-Video, Inc. In article <1124223816.469980.56***@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"henryp" <hen***@bhphotovideo.com> wrote: I agree with the comments about B&H. I just bought Final Cut Studio and > Thanks for recalling,. B&H has been around for 30+ years. I was a > customer for almost 10 years before I started working here and that was > 11 years ago. I cut back on newsgroup visits because it seemed most of > the conversations had migrated to web-hosted forums. > > Neverthess, reading, "A very nice guy and extremely helpful. " was a > treat. Thanks > > Henry Posner > B&H Photo-Video, Inc. a bunch of related stuff from them. My experiences on the phone with them, I live in Anchorage, Ak, have always been good. However, I went to NYC this past month and thought I'd get FCP Studio while I was there. I thought I might save a few bucks buying it at the store and saving shipping. The NY tax was $110+ something where the shipping would be $74.00 or something like that. Anchorage doesn't have sales tax. I came back home and ordered over the phone. The folks at the store were a lot less friendly than on the phone also. Maybe it is the NY thing. I felt like I was imposing on them. At any rate I can't fault them for anything really. They seem to be a good resource. Full Compass is a great choice also. They have some things B&H don't. Patric "patric deimon" <pat***@gci.net> wrote in message Something doesn't add up here. Sales tax in New York City is 8 1/2%, to go news:patric-856283.19070629092005@prawn.nwc.acsalaska.net... > > I agree with the comments about B&H. I just bought Final Cut Studio and > a bunch of related stuff from them. My experiences on the phone with > them, I live in Anchorage, Ak, have always been good. However, I went > to NYC this past month and thought I'd get FCP Studio while I was there. > > I thought I might save a few bucks buying it at the store and saving > shipping. The NY tax was $110+ something where the shipping would be > $74.00 or something like that. Anchorage doesn't have sales tax. from $ 74.00 to $ 110.00 is not a difference attributed to sales tax. > I came back home and ordered over the phone. I've seen both sides of the spectrum in NYC. I chalk it up to some people > > The folks at the store were a lot less friendly than on the phone also. > Maybe it is the NY thing. I felt like I was imposing on them. just not being too nice while others are. Show quoteHide quote > At any rate I can't fault them for anything really. They seem to be a > good resource. > > Full Compass is a great choice also. They have some things B&H don't. > > Patric In rec.photo.digital patric deimon <pat***@gci.net> wrote:
Show quoteHide quote >In article <1124223816.469980.56***@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Given that the store is often loaded with customers and> "henryp" <hen***@bhphotovideo.com> wrote: >> Thanks for recalling,. B&H has been around for 30+ years. I was a >> customer for almost 10 years before I started working here and that was >> 11 years ago. I cut back on newsgroup visits because it seemed most of >> the conversations had migrated to web-hosted forums. >> >> Neverthess, reading, "A very nice guy and extremely helpful. " was a >> treat. Thanks >> >> Henry Posner >> B&H Photo-Video, Inc. >I agree with the comments about B&H. I just bought Final Cut Studio and >a bunch of related stuff from them. My experiences on the phone with >them, I live in Anchorage, Ak, have always been good. However, I went >to NYC this past month and thought I'd get FCP Studio while I was there. >I thought I might save a few bucks buying it at the store and saving >shipping. The NY tax was $110+ something where the shipping would be >$74.00 or something like that. Anchorage doesn't have sales tax. >I came back home and ordered over the phone. >The folks at the store were a lot less friendly than on the phone also. >Maybe it is the NY thing. I felt like I was imposing on them. >At any rate I can't fault them for anything really. They seem to be a >good resource. >Full Compass is a great choice also. They have some things B&H don't. that many of the salespeople seem to go nonstop for hours with only small breaks, it probably is true that the legendary "New York Attitude" breaks through from time to time. Living in New York I try to get to B&H early, before the crowds show up (but there are still folks there). I've almost always found the sales people willing to take as much time as I need -- and they don't push me in a direction I don't want to go in. While I'm by no means a big customer, I've done all my purchasing there for years -- from film to cameras and lenses. ----- Paul J. Gans arianna wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Hi, Sorry to hear about your problems. Consider it a learning experience. > > Last week I put ordered a camcorder at www.bestpricecamers.com. Their > price seemed the lowest. The first suprise was that their shipping > cost starts 1t $50 and then for next day delivery they charge $150. My > husband wanted the camcorder for the weekend and their price was still > the best. I put the order and the next day, I get a call if I want an > extra battery and I they tried to use pressure tactics to sell me > extra accessories at inflated prices. I declined and asked to keep my > original order. > > After 3 days, I called back and they claimed that they are out of > stock. I cancelled the order. They were very unappologetic about the > whole thing. They really suck. Be careful if you plan to shop at their > store. > > Arianna What appears to be a great price may not be so great, especially on the internet. There are many photo dealers and many of those work under more than one name on the internet. It is best to check them out before making any purchase. I use B&H one of the good ones. It may not always have the lowest price, but it does give good honest service without surprises that generally mean more total cost or lower value at many of the other places. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit > arianna wrote: Gee, the lowballer has lousy service and is a scam-joint.> >>Hi, >> >>Last week I put ordered a camcorder at www.bestpricecamers.com. Their >>price seemed the lowest. THERE"S a shocker! <eye-roll> On 22 Jul 2005, arianna <arianna.macdou***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Last week I put ordered a camcorder at www.bestpricecamers.com. Their A typical story from a Brooklyn camera dealer.>price seemed the lowest. The first suprise was that their shipping cost >starts 1t $50 and then for next day delivery they charge $150. My >husband wanted the camcorder for the weekend and their price was still >the best. I put the order and the next day, I get a call if I want an >extra battery and I they tried to use pressure tactics to sell me extra >accessories at inflated prices. I declined and asked to keep my >original order. > >After 3 days, I called back and they claimed that they are out of >stock. I cancelled the order. They were very unappologetic about the >whole thing. They really suck. > Be careful if you plan to shop at their What store? This is what the place looks like (plus following picture):>store. http://donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/h0057.htm Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom). 
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