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Do old 8mm tapes up mess up new cameras?
DCR-TRV-510 camera when I try to play them. I want to play them long enough to transfer them to DVD but they have poor sound and lines and skipping on the video. Then when I play my new tapes they don't play either. I bought a new head cleaning tape and that helped for a time or two and now it doesn't help. I had the camera cleaned at a shop once and it worked fine on new tapes but is messing up again now. If the problem is simply old tapes that have developed a bad coating is there anyway to clean or play them? Thanks, Dennis "CP" <coalp***@verizon.net> wrote in message news:8iGve.7319$Tk2.838@trnddc02...Show quoteHide quote >I have 15 to 20 year old 8mm video tapes that seem to gum up my Sony To answer your question - I don't know, but have been having the same >DCR-TRV-510 camera when I try to play them. I want to play them long >enough to transfer them to DVD but they have poor sound and lines and >skipping on the video. Then when I play my new tapes they don't play >either. I bought a new head cleaning tape and that helped for a time or >two and now it doesn't help. I had the camera cleaned at a shop once and >it worked fine on new tapes but is messing up again now. > > If the problem is simply old tapes that have developed a bad coating is > there anyway to clean or play them? > > Thanks, > > Dennis problem with 11 year old tapes on my D8 Sony TRV-340, they play very badly or don't playback vision or sound and when I stick my good D8 tapes in nothing plays on those either. I have found a head cleaning tape and a few more tries and I eventually get playback and usually on the 8mm tapes also, but need to run the head cleaner 2 or 3 times per session. Thankfully I now have 7 of the 8 tapes successfully copied. G Almost certainly some of the old coating is rubbing off and the risk you run
is premature aging of the camera video heads by repeated cleanings. "CP" <coalp***@verizon.net> wrote in message news:8iGve.7319$Tk2.838@trnddc02...Show quoteHide quote > I have 15 to 20 year old 8mm video tapes that seem to gum up my Sony > DCR-TRV-510 camera when I try to play them. I want to play them long > enough to transfer them to DVD but they have poor sound and lines and > skipping on the video. Then when I play my new tapes they don't play > either. I bought a new head cleaning tape and that helped for a time or > two and now it doesn't help. I had the camera cleaned at a shop once > and it worked fine on new tapes but is messing up again now. > > If the problem is simply old tapes that have developed a bad coating is > there anyway to clean or play them? > > Thanks, > > Dennis Hi,
I am currently digitising to Mpeg my, up to 17 year old, 8 mm tapes. I have done 16 so far and no problems. I think the video on them looks as good as it did 17 years ago. The brand is TDK. About 9 years ago I bought my first Hi8 camera and I used Sony tapes at first but I found that they made the heads dirty, even though they were new tapes at the time. I will digitise the Sony stuff last. If anybody knows how to solve this problem please come forward. Thanks Martin "CP" <coalp***@verizon.net> wrote in message news:8iGve.7319$Tk2.838@trnddc02...Show quoteHide quote >I have 15 to 20 year old 8mm video tapes that seem to gum up my Sony >DCR-TRV-510 camera when I try to play them. I want to play them long >enough to transfer them to DVD but they have poor sound and lines and >skipping on the video. Then when I play my new tapes they don't play >either. I bought a new head cleaning tape and that helped for a time or >two and now it doesn't help. I had the camera cleaned at a shop once and >it worked fine on new tapes but is messing up again now. > > If the problem is simply old tapes that have developed a bad coating is > there anyway to clean or play them? > > Thanks, > > Dennis On 6/26/2005, CP managed to type:
Show quoteHide quote > I have 15 to 20 year old 8mm video tapes that seem to gum up my Sony Is there such a thing as a tape cleaner for 8mm? Worth a try...> DCR-TRV-510 camera when I try to play them. I want to play them long enough > to transfer them to DVD but they have poor sound and lines and skipping on > the video. Then when I play my new tapes they don't play either. I bought a > new head cleaning tape and that helped for a time or two and now it doesn't > help. I had the camera cleaned at a shop once and it worked fine on new > tapes but is messing up again now. > > If the problem is simply old tapes that have developed a bad coating is there > anyway to clean or play them? > > Thanks, > > Dennis Or a commercial service that might clean and relubricate the tapes for a price that's OK for you? Just speculating... Gino -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251 (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") Are you playing analog hi-8 tapes on a digital 8 mm machine?
It might just not be set up for optimal playback of those' old tapes. CP wrote: Show quoteHide quote > I have 15 to 20 year old 8mm video tapes that seem to gum up my Sony > DCR-TRV-510 camera when I try to play them. I want to play them long > enough to transfer them to DVD but they have poor sound and lines and > skipping on the video. Then when I play my new tapes they don't play > either. I bought a new head cleaning tape and that helped for a time or > two and now it doesn't help. I had the camera cleaned at a shop once > and it worked fine on new tapes but is messing up again now. > > If the problem is simply old tapes that have developed a bad coating is > there anyway to clean or play them? > > Thanks, > > Dennis MiniDV users are warned not to mix different brands of media in their
camcorders because different manufactuers use different lubricants, and sometimes the residual that's left on the capstans and guides (and heads) from the previous tape makes a really nasty gummy mess when a different tape is played. The same thing might be happening to you, although I haven't heard it mentioned regarding 8mm. The advice for miniDV users is to clean the entire path with an approved cleaner, taking extreme care with the heads. If you're up for an experiment, try that, and see if your old tapes will play well. If not, I expect your old tapes are losing oxide, clogging the heads with that, and perhaps there's no hope. But perhaps there are players that are more gentle on the tapes and you can get hold of one long enough to play your tapes. Find a friend with a different camera (say Canon) who's willing to take a chance to help you along. CP <coalp***@verizon.net> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >I have 15 to 20 year old 8mm video tapes that seem to gum up my Sony ----------------->DCR-TRV-510 camera when I try to play them. I want to play them long >enough to transfer them to DVD but they have poor sound and lines and >skipping on the video. Then when I play my new tapes they don't play >either. I bought a new head cleaning tape and that helped for a time or >two and now it doesn't help. I had the camera cleaned at a shop once >and it worked fine on new tapes but is messing up again now. > >If the problem is simply old tapes that have developed a bad coating is >there anyway to clean or play them? > >Thanks, > >Dennis www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- I have an old real 8mm camera still.If you intend in making holidays in
Crete, I can copy all your 8mm cassetes (all VCRs and cameras in Europe can playback NTSC tapes). -- Tzortzakakis Dimitrios major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr ? "CP" <coalp***@verizon.net> ?????? ??? ?????? news:8iGve.7319$Tk2.838@trnddc02...Show quoteHide quote > I have 15 to 20 year old 8mm video tapes that seem to gum up my Sony > DCR-TRV-510 camera when I try to play them. I want to play them long > enough to transfer them to DVD but they have poor sound and lines and > skipping on the video. Then when I play my new tapes they don't play > either. I bought a new head cleaning tape and that helped for a time or > two and now it doesn't help. I had the camera cleaned at a shop once > and it worked fine on new tapes but is messing up again now. > > If the problem is simply old tapes that have developed a bad coating is > there anyway to clean or play them? > > Thanks, > > Dennis CP wrote:
> If the problem is simply old tapes that have developed a bad coating is - Keep the tapes in a warm place for a few days before use> there anyway to clean or play them? - Use the tapes on a day when air humidity is low. - Use the player when it is warm, eg. by playing a good tape for an hour before inserting the bad one. This stops condensation on the tape heads which would cause parts of the tape coating to stick to them. Finally, play the bad tapes several times and clean the recorder periodically. The tapes might actually get "better" each time you play them. Some people recommend "baking" the tapes in an oven to remove humidity from the binder, but I think this is too dangerous. In article <8iGve.7319$Tk2.838@trnddc02>,
CP <coalp***@verizon.net> writes: > I have 15 to 20 year old 8mm video tapes that seem to gum up my Sony I had exactly the same problem. What worked for me was to play the> DCR-TRV-510 camera when I try to play them. I want to play them long > enough to transfer them to DVD but they have poor sound and lines and > skipping on the video. Then when I play my new tapes they don't play > either. I bought a new head cleaning tape and that helped for a time or > two and now it doesn't help. I had the camera cleaned at a shop once > and it worked fine on new tapes but is messing up again now. tapes until lines appeared, stop and clean the heads with a cleaning tape, then begin from before the lines appeared. Sometimes I could only get 5 minutes of play before having to stop and clean, but I did eventually get it all transfered. I do have a DVD recorder with a hard disk and was able to combine the small segments into a long one for burning to DVD. They did not permanently mess up the camera, but it did take more than one pass at times to clean it. 
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