Hello all,
I'm new to video editing. I understand NLE stands for Non Linear Editing. I
would like to know what this really means. Is there Linear Editing too?
Can you provide some examples?

Non linear editing can move to any point in time nearly instantly.  Linear
editing must rely on serial access to the edit point.  Nonlinear:  Random
Access.  Linear:  Serial Access.  Nonlinear:  Hard Drive or other random
access near-immediate access to a time point (computer based
editing)....Linear:  tape based editing that requires searching serially
through the tape/time.


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Oh my yes. Connect two VCR's together. Hit "play" on VCR 1, "record" on VCR
2. That's linear. Good question BTW! Like the "Grammy" awards, often the
source of the term is lost in the mists of time. (I get a kick out of kids
who don't know what a grammaphone is ;)

More sophisticated gear can do amazing things in the LINEAR world - I spent
a lot of time doing linear editing when I was in production school. We had
one NLE workstation, a Quadra 840av with a <gasp> ONE-GIGABYTE HARD DRIVE
and Adobe Premiere 1.0.

As someone pointed out here a while back by someone, if all you're doing is
taking "chunks" from a bunch of tapes and putting them on other tapes for
storage, it's so much easier to do it LINEAR - one tape machine to another -
without a computer in between.

You might do this to shrink a 20 tape librairy to, say, 10 tapes, cutting
out unusable footage.

BTW: LE/NLE has NOTHING to do with digital versus non-digital. You can do
either in the analog or digital environment. (though computers tend to
convert analog to digital in order to work with the material ;)

I've replied to your other post on DV gen loss - see that for more.

C.j




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CJP- [Tue, 3 May 2005 18:25:22 -0400]:
Hard to find out lacking a good spell, but I've
ferreted it out with my uncanny ability to use
a suggested spelling list.  Here it goes:

Main Entry: gramœoœphone
Pronunciation: 'gra-m&-"fOn
Function: noun
Etymology: from Gramophone, a trademark
But even that See-also is unknown to many today,
or at least, seldom used.  Record player, turntable,
- jukebox, even - will hit home.  Maybe.

On Wed, 04 May 2005 09:15:01 GMT, h**@40th.com ()
   <h**@40th.com> wrote:

Show quoteHide quote"What's a record?"  Jukebox has survived as any device which plays music
(or sometimes video) on demand from a large selection (and of course
there are still many of them in pubs), but few people I know have a
record player or 'turntable' at home now.  Or reel-to-reel tape
recorders (yes, I have more than one <g>)...

Chris C

Thank you very much for your answers (especially Alpha & C.J.Patten).
As the latter says, "often the source of the term is lost in the mists of
time", that is why I expected all theese programmes I'm reading about like
Premiere, Studio, Xpress, Movie Maker have their counterpart on the Linear
Editing side :-) Now I see it's another world, actually...

Now I can even find one LE-digital combination: one of my colleagues at work
says he doesn't want to do any computer-based editing of his DV footage. He
simply wants to transfer everything he captured with his camcorder to a DVD,
cutting off some parts. Nothing added, nothing changed. For this purpose he
is about to buy a standalone DVD recorder with a firewire input. This would
be a good Linear Editing, yet digital, example, right?

Thanks again.

Griffo Fooxburr wrote:
Show quoteHide quoteJust came cross my mind... We're all doing Linear Editing when capturing
PARTS of the tape via firewire (thus cutting off scenes not needed) - that
would be LE before NLE!
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FYI: if he REALLY wants to avoid computers (his loss, IMO) TWO miniDV decks
with frame accurate editing capability would really be the best idea.

Once you go to DVD, you're LOSING quality by virtue of the compression that
format requires (MPEG). At least if he works from one deck to another,
there's no loss. Once he has a master tape he likes, he can output to a DVD
writer if he wants to.

Again, in my opinion, he's far better off learning to use a computer.

But yes, your example is one of Linear Editing.


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In article <d58rss$i7***@ss405.t-com.hr>, griffofBEZ@SPAMAhotmail.com
says...
Film, scissors, scotch tape.

Show quote Hide quote   Now if only "PTRAVEL" and "Chuck U. Farley" are listening.

LOL;
    Ken

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  Are you still insisting that VideoReDo is not an NLE?

Ken

Show quote Hide quote VideoReDo is an NLE in the same sense that Scenealyzer Live is an NLE --
they can both do cuts edits and re-arrange clips.  Putting them in the same
category as software that is intended for editing, whether it is something
as basic as Microsoft Movie Maker, begs the question of what is meant by
"editing."  You can do primitive editing in VideoReDo, but it is not an
editor in the sense that most people use the term.

VideoReDo is fine for what it does (as is Scenealyzer Live), but anyone who
wants to do more than simple cuts will have to look at packages intended for
the purpose.  Telling people that VideoReDo is an adequate substitute for
"real" NLE software is, to put it charitably, misleading.

As I've told you a number of times, I have no bias against VideoReDo, mpeg
capture, or the other tools of which you are so fond -- they are quite
useful for specific applications where Premiere or tmpgenc would be
overkill.  You, on the other hand, seem to regard them as the Swiss Army
knife of video -- they don't even begin to come close.  "The right tool for
the right job."



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