Just jumping into this

19 Apr 2005 12:08 PM

s

Been doing photo for a long time. Have had a Hi-8 Sony for a while but never
did any video capture or editing. Now I gotta do some for a wedding that
just popped up. Question: Can I get a decent capture for editing? What's a
good capture card for not a ton of money for PC? What file does it output?
MPEG?

What am I losing by going this route versus picking up a MiniDV cam for this
one job? I know I want a MiniDV but I'd rather not get one just yet til the
prices drop some more.

Thanks folks.

19 Apr 2005 12:31 PM

Richard Crowley

"s" wrote ...

> Been doing photo for a long time. Have had a Hi-8
> Sony for a while but never did any video capture or
> editing. Now I gotta do some for a wedding that just
> popped up. Question: Can I get a decent capture for
> editing? What's a good capture card for not a ton of
> money for PC? What file does it output? MPEG?
>
> What am I losing by going this route versus picking up
> a MiniDV cam for this one job? I know I want a MiniDV
> but I'd rather not get one just yet til the prices drop some
> more.

Borrow a mini-DV camcorder from somebody in the
wedding party (or talk THEM into shooting it!)

Then you can interface with a simple/cheap Firewire
and transfer the video into a DV-AVI file (13GB/hour)
and edit using your choice of many edit applications
ranging from free to very expensive.

Avoid MPEG until you are ready to release the video.

19 Apr 2005 3:32 PM

s

> Then you can interface with a simple/cheap Firewire
> and transfer the video into a DV-AVI file (13GB/hour) and edit using your
> choice of many edit applications ranging from free to very expensive.

Is that transferring 13 gigs into my PC per hour... or is that 13 gigs for
an hour long DV-AVI file?

On that note how much disk space will a full miniDV tape take up on my HD?

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"Richard Crowley" <rcrowl***@xprt.net> wrote in message
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> "s" wrote ...
>> Been doing photo for a long time. Have had a Hi-8 Sony for a while but
>> never did any video capture or editing. Now I gotta do some for a wedding
>> that just popped up. Question: Can I get a decent capture for editing?
>> What's a good capture card for not a ton of money for PC? What file does
>> it output? MPEG?
>>
>> What am I losing by going this route versus picking up a MiniDV cam for
>> this one job? I know I want a MiniDV but I'd rather not get one just yet
>> til the prices drop some
>> more.
>
> Borrow a mini-DV camcorder from somebody in the
> wedding party (or talk THEM into shooting it!)
>
> Then you can interface with a simple/cheap Firewire
> and transfer the video into a DV-AVI file (13GB/hour) and edit using your
> choice of many edit applications ranging from free to very expensive.
>
> Avoid MPEG until you are ready to release the video.
>

19 Apr 2005 6:06 PM

PTravel

"s" <s@s.com> wrote in message
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> > Then you can interface with a simple/cheap Firewire
> > and transfer the video into a DV-AVI file (13GB/hour) and edit using
your
> > choice of many edit applications ranging from free to very expensive.
>
> Is that transferring 13 gigs into my PC per hour... or is that 13 gigs for
> an hour long DV-AVI file?

D-25, which is the format that miniDV uses, is approximately 13 gigs per
hour of video, i.e. a one-hour file will occupy 13 gigs. However, transfer
of miniDV to your computer is done realtime, i.e. it takes one hour to
transfer one hour of video, so it's also 13 gigs per hour.

>
> On that note how much disk space will a full miniDV tape take up on my HD?

13 gigs. However, you also have to allow room for rendering transitions and
titles. I use a separate program for transcoding to mpeg, so I write my
edited project to disk first as DV-codec-encoded AVI. The math works out
like this:

Capture two hours of video:        26 gigs
Render transitions/titles/effects:      5 gigs (approximately)
Write project as one-hour AVI:   13 gigs
Transcode to one-hour mpeg:       4.7 gigs
Author DVD for burning:              4.7 gigs

Total to produce 1 hour DVD from 2 hours of raw video:        approx. 57
gigs

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>
> "Richard Crowley" <rcrowl***@xprt.net> wrote in message
> news:1169uhskjh6sqd8@corp.supernews.com...
> > "s" wrote ...
> >> Been doing photo for a long time. Have had a Hi-8 Sony for a while but
> >> never did any video capture or editing. Now I gotta do some for a
wedding
> >> that just popped up. Question: Can I get a decent capture for editing?
> >> What's a good capture card for not a ton of money for PC? What file
does
> >> it output? MPEG?
> >>
> >> What am I losing by going this route versus picking up a MiniDV cam for
> >> this one job? I know I want a MiniDV but I'd rather not get one just
yet
> >> til the prices drop some
> >> more.
> >
> > Borrow a mini-DV camcorder from somebody in the
> > wedding party (or talk THEM into shooting it!)
> >
> > Then you can interface with a simple/cheap Firewire
> > and transfer the video into a DV-AVI file (13GB/hour) and edit using
your
> > choice of many edit applications ranging from free to very expensive.
> >
> > Avoid MPEG until you are ready to release the video.
> >
>
>

19 Apr 2005 6:49 PM

s

I gotta lotta gigs.

Wonder if I have the hertz...

Running an Athlon 900 with 640 megs ram.

Will probably be getting some capture card as well.

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"PTravel" <ptra***@ruyitang.com> wrote in message
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>
> "s" <s@s.com> wrote in message
> news:0w99e.405$%L1.57@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
>> > Then you can interface with a simple/cheap Firewire
>> > and transfer the video into a DV-AVI file (13GB/hour) and edit using
> your
>> > choice of many edit applications ranging from free to very expensive.
>>
>> Is that transferring 13 gigs into my PC per hour... or is that 13 gigs
>> for
>> an hour long DV-AVI file?
>
> D-25, which is the format that miniDV uses, is approximately 13 gigs per
> hour of video, i.e. a one-hour file will occupy 13 gigs. However,
> transfer
> of miniDV to your computer is done realtime, i.e. it takes one hour to
> transfer one hour of video, so it's also 13 gigs per hour.
>
>>
>> On that note how much disk space will a full miniDV tape take up on my
>> HD?
>
> 13 gigs. However, you also have to allow room for rendering transitions
> and
> titles. I use a separate program for transcoding to mpeg, so I write my
> edited project to disk first as DV-codec-encoded AVI. The math works out
> like this:
>
> Capture two hours of video:        26 gigs
> Render transitions/titles/effects:      5 gigs (approximately)
> Write project as one-hour AVI:   13 gigs
> Transcode to one-hour mpeg:       4.7 gigs
> Author DVD for burning:              4.7 gigs
>
> Total to produce 1 hour DVD from 2 hours of raw video:        approx. 57
> gigs
>
>>
>> "Richard Crowley" <rcrowl***@xprt.net> wrote in message
>> news:1169uhskjh6sqd8@corp.supernews.com...
>> > "s" wrote ...
>> >> Been doing photo for a long time. Have had a Hi-8 Sony for a while but
>> >> never did any video capture or editing. Now I gotta do some for a
> wedding
>> >> that just popped up. Question: Can I get a decent capture for editing?
>> >> What's a good capture card for not a ton of money for PC? What file
> does
>> >> it output? MPEG?
>> >>
>> >> What am I losing by going this route versus picking up a MiniDV cam
>> >> for
>> >> this one job? I know I want a MiniDV but I'd rather not get one just
> yet
>> >> til the prices drop some
>> >> more.
>> >
>> > Borrow a mini-DV camcorder from somebody in the
>> > wedding party (or talk THEM into shooting it!)
>> >
>> > Then you can interface with a simple/cheap Firewire
>> > and transfer the video into a DV-AVI file (13GB/hour) and edit using
> your
>> > choice of many edit applications ranging from free to very expensive.
>> >
>> > Avoid MPEG until you are ready to release the video.
>> >
>>
>>
>
>