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PS2 Mouse problems on A7N8X Deluxe

Author
3 Apr 2005 8:29 AM
Ian
Hi all,

Recently my mouse has started misbehaving.  Currently the pointer will
happily move left/right (or horizontal), but when moving it up/down
(vertical) it doesn't respond properly.  Sometimes the pointer will slowly
move upwards (whether I'm moving the mouse up OR down), sometimes it'll move
slowly in the direction I want, or more often it will start and stop with
jerky motion.  In the meantime, I'm using what windows labels a "Human
Interaction Device" (HID).  It's a little USB trackball type thing, not
meant for hours of use.  Occasionally while using this (my PS2 mouse is
still plugged in), the pointer will drift up on the screen.

Here's what I've done:
Cleaned the mouse rollers.
Taken the mouse apart and cleaned it.
Bought a new mouse (still problems).
Tried the mouse on another computer (no problems).
Tried another mouse on this computer (still problems).

In summary, I don't believe it's mouse.

So I did this:
Updated the driver.
Removed the device (and let it redetect).
Cracked the sh*ts and followed the instructions here:
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;321122 (and I know my mouse
isn't an Intellimouse).
Didn't follow them closely enough (especially the backup part) and partially
wrecked my registry, removing ALL mouse abilities (including the HID I'm
using in the meantime).  Finally fixed that.

All of this still didn't fix the mouse.
I rebooted to Win 98 (dual boot system) where the mouse used to work.
Doesn't work properly anymore.

In summary, I don't believe it's the software.

I did read somewhere on google newsgroups about this sort of behaviour being
caused by hardware (bad surface mount capacitor or similar) near the PS2
port on the motherboard (on a different system).  But I think they said that
usually affects BOTH PS2 ports, and I've had no troubles with my keyboard.
I have enough electronics knowledge to be able to replace something, but I
know how fiddly SMD's are.... <shudder>... I don't like them.

Does anyone have any knowledge what could be causing this (hardware or
otherwise)?  Any suggestions about how to fix it, which cap it is, or how to
test for faults?

Cheers,
Ian

If I can't fix it, I'll just have to buy a USB mouse, but I'd like my PS2
mouse port to work.

Author
3 Apr 2005 11:59 AM
JANA
This may sound a bit illogical, but try another keyboard. I have see this
before. If it is not the combination of the keyboard and the mouse, then it
is something with the PS2 mouse port.

In any case, I would get a USB mouse. You will find it to be better than the
PS2 type.

--

JANA
_____


"Ian" <i_lee***@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:0QN3e.22400$C7.13537@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Hi all,

Recently my mouse has started misbehaving.  Currently the pointer will
happily move left/right (or horizontal), but when moving it up/down
(vertical) it doesn't respond properly.  Sometimes the pointer will slowly
move upwards (whether I'm moving the mouse up OR down), sometimes it'll move
slowly in the direction I want, or more often it will start and stop with
jerky motion.  In the meantime, I'm using what windows labels a "Human
Interaction Device" (HID).  It's a little USB trackball type thing, not
meant for hours of use.  Occasionally while using this (my PS2 mouse is
still plugged in), the pointer will drift up on the screen.

Here's what I've done:
Cleaned the mouse rollers.
Taken the mouse apart and cleaned it.
Bought a new mouse (still problems).
Tried the mouse on another computer (no problems).
Tried another mouse on this computer (still problems).

In summary, I don't believe it's mouse.

So I did this:
Updated the driver.
Removed the device (and let it redetect).
Cracked the sh*ts and followed the instructions here:
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;321122 (and I know my mouse
isn't an Intellimouse).
Didn't follow them closely enough (especially the backup part) and partially
wrecked my registry, removing ALL mouse abilities (including the HID I'm
using in the meantime).  Finally fixed that.

All of this still didn't fix the mouse.
I rebooted to Win 98 (dual boot system) where the mouse used to work.
Doesn't work properly anymore.

In summary, I don't believe it's the software.

I did read somewhere on google newsgroups about this sort of behaviour being
caused by hardware (bad surface mount capacitor or similar) near the PS2
port on the motherboard (on a different system).  But I think they said that
usually affects BOTH PS2 ports, and I've had no troubles with my keyboard.
I have enough electronics knowledge to be able to replace something, but I
know how fiddly SMD's are.... <shudder>... I don't like them.

Does anyone have any knowledge what could be causing this (hardware or
otherwise)?  Any suggestions about how to fix it, which cap it is, or how to
test for faults?

Cheers,
Ian

If I can't fix it, I'll just have to buy a USB mouse, but I'd like my PS2
mouse port to work.
Are all your drivers up to date? click for free checkup

Author
4 Apr 2005 1:19 AM
Ian
Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't help.
Interesting idea though, I would never have thought of it.


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"JANA" <j***@ca.inter.net> wrote in message
news:3ba4heF6i2drqU3@uni-berlin.de...
> This may sound a bit illogical, but try another keyboard. I have see this
> before. If it is not the combination of the keyboard and the mouse, then
> it
> is something with the PS2 mouse port.
>
> In any case, I would get a USB mouse. You will find it to be better than
> the
> PS2 type.
>
> --
>
> JANA
> _____
>
>
> "Ian" <i_lee***@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:0QN3e.22400$C7.13537@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Hi all,
>
> Recently my mouse has started misbehaving.  Currently the pointer will
> happily move left/right (or horizontal), but when moving it up/down
> (vertical) it doesn't respond properly.  Sometimes the pointer will slowly
> move upwards (whether I'm moving the mouse up OR down), sometimes it'll
> move
> slowly in the direction I want, or more often it will start and stop with
> jerky motion.  In the meantime, I'm using what windows labels a "Human
> Interaction Device" (HID).  It's a little USB trackball type thing, not
> meant for hours of use.  Occasionally while using this (my PS2 mouse is
> still plugged in), the pointer will drift up on the screen.
>
> Here's what I've done:
> Cleaned the mouse rollers.
> Taken the mouse apart and cleaned it.
> Bought a new mouse (still problems).
> Tried the mouse on another computer (no problems).
> Tried another mouse on this computer (still problems).
>
> In summary, I don't believe it's mouse.
>
> So I did this:
> Updated the driver.
> Removed the device (and let it redetect).
> Cracked the sh*ts and followed the instructions here:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;321122 (and I know my mouse
> isn't an Intellimouse).
> Didn't follow them closely enough (especially the backup part) and
> partially
> wrecked my registry, removing ALL mouse abilities (including the HID I'm
> using in the meantime).  Finally fixed that.
>
> All of this still didn't fix the mouse.
> I rebooted to Win 98 (dual boot system) where the mouse used to work.
> Doesn't work properly anymore.
>
> In summary, I don't believe it's the software.
>
> I did read somewhere on google newsgroups about this sort of behaviour
> being
> caused by hardware (bad surface mount capacitor or similar) near the PS2
> port on the motherboard (on a different system).  But I think they said
> that
> usually affects BOTH PS2 ports, and I've had no troubles with my keyboard.
> I have enough electronics knowledge to be able to replace something, but I
> know how fiddly SMD's are.... <shudder>... I don't like them.
>
> Does anyone have any knowledge what could be causing this (hardware or
> otherwise)?  Any suggestions about how to fix it, which cap it is, or how
> to
> test for faults?
>
> Cheers,
> Ian
>
> If I can't fix it, I'll just have to buy a USB mouse, but I'd like my PS2
> mouse port to work.
>
>
>
Author
8 Apr 2005 2:11 AM
Ian
Well, I got sick of having to use the little trackball HID thingymabob, so I
bought a USB mouse.  For the first day, it worked flawlessly.  But now...
sometimes the pointer will barely move at all, simply crawling to the left
no matter which direction I move the mouse.  Or it will move fine from left
to right, but very jerky motion (if any) up/down.

The problems seem to come and go though.  It'll work fine for 5 minutes,
then it won't.  Sometimes rapid vertical movement will help it work, but
sometimes the pointer will only move 1 or 2 pixels.

The USB mouse comes up as a USB HID, and uses the same drivers as my
trackball.  Yet one works and the other does not.  I'm reasonably sure it's
not the hardware as:
1. It's new
2. I haven't been able to replicate the problem on another system
(admittedly Win98 when I'm using WinXP)

WHAT'S GOING ON!  Working without a mouse is EXTREMELY difficult.

I've tried virus and malware scans in the past (and I'll try them again now)
but with no results.

Any help at all would be great, I'm pulling my hair out here!

Cheers,
Ian


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"Ian" <i_lee***@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:0QN3e.22400$C7.13537@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Hi all,
>
> Recently my mouse has started misbehaving.  Currently the pointer will
> happily move left/right (or horizontal), but when moving it up/down
> (vertical) it doesn't respond properly.  Sometimes the pointer will slowly
> move upwards (whether I'm moving the mouse up OR down), sometimes it'll
> move slowly in the direction I want, or more often it will start and stop
> with jerky motion.  In the meantime, I'm using what windows labels a
> "Human Interaction Device" (HID).  It's a little USB trackball type thing,
> not meant for hours of use.  Occasionally while using this (my PS2 mouse
> is still plugged in), the pointer will drift up on the screen.
>
> Here's what I've done:
> Cleaned the mouse rollers.
> Taken the mouse apart and cleaned it.
> Bought a new mouse (still problems).
> Tried the mouse on another computer (no problems).
> Tried another mouse on this computer (still problems).
>
> In summary, I don't believe it's mouse.
>
> So I did this:
> Updated the driver.
> Removed the device (and let it redetect).
> Cracked the sh*ts and followed the instructions here:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;321122 (and I know my mouse
> isn't an Intellimouse).
> Didn't follow them closely enough (especially the backup part) and
> partially wrecked my registry, removing ALL mouse abilities (including the
> HID I'm using in the meantime).  Finally fixed that.
>
> All of this still didn't fix the mouse.
> I rebooted to Win 98 (dual boot system) where the mouse used to work.
> Doesn't work properly anymore.
>
> In summary, I don't believe it's the software.
>
> I did read somewhere on google newsgroups about this sort of behaviour
> being caused by hardware (bad surface mount capacitor or similar) near the
> PS2 port on the motherboard (on a different system).  But I think they
> said that usually affects BOTH PS2 ports, and I've had no troubles with my
> keyboard.
> I have enough electronics knowledge to be able to replace something, but I
> know how fiddly SMD's are.... <shudder>... I don't like them.
>
> Does anyone have any knowledge what could be causing this (hardware or
> otherwise)?  Any suggestions about how to fix it, which cap it is, or how
> to test for faults?
>
> Cheers,
> Ian
>
> If I can't fix it, I'll just have to buy a USB mouse, but I'd like my PS2
> mouse port to work.
>
Author
8 Apr 2005 4:03 AM
kony
On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 02:11:11 GMT, "Ian"
<i_lee***@bigpond.com> wrote:

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>Well, I got sick of having to use the little trackball HID thingymabob, so I
>bought a USB mouse.  For the first day, it worked flawlessly.  But now...
>sometimes the pointer will barely move at all, simply crawling to the left
>no matter which direction I move the mouse.  Or it will move fine from left
>to right, but very jerky motion (if any) up/down.
>
>The problems seem to come and go though.  It'll work fine for 5 minutes,
>then it won't.  Sometimes rapid vertical movement will help it work, but
>sometimes the pointer will only move 1 or 2 pixels.
>
>The USB mouse comes up as a USB HID, and uses the same drivers as my
>trackball.  Yet one works and the other does not.  I'm reasonably sure it's
>not the hardware as:
>1. It's new
>2. I haven't been able to replicate the problem on another system
>(admittedly Win98 when I'm using WinXP)
>
>WHAT'S GOING ON!  Working without a mouse is EXTREMELY difficult.
>
>I've tried virus and malware scans in the past (and I'll try them again now)
>but with no results.
>
>Any help at all would be great, I'm pulling my hair out here!
>
>Cheers,
>Ian
>


With both PS2 and USB mice acting strange, I'd suspect
either the mousing surface, OS installation, video driver or
mouse driver.    Is it possible your PS2 and USB ports are
jumpered to use 5VSB power (consult motherboard manual) and
those mice (trackball) that works ok is merely more tolerant
of power problems?  If so, changing that jumper should help.

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