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A harddisk development issue
I have a pretty odd question about harddisks development and production. First of all I apologize if this problem doesn't belong to this ng. Then, pls, point me to the right ng. Well. My friend argues that the development of a new HD is not precalculated and projected. Therefore the result is not predictable. There's produced "something". Then thoroughly tested and measured its capacity and other properties. And even after this procedure the technical data are declared on a new product. Moreover she told me that this is a reason why there are invested billions of dollars to testing machines and systems. What do you mean about this? I can't believe in that! Thanks to all for your judgements. -- Pea C *** NEVER LIE, but stretch the truth as far as possible! Pea C wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Hi there. It's just speculation on my part, but I would guess it's true that the > > I have a pretty odd question about harddisks development and production. > > First of all I apologize if this problem doesn't belong to this ng. > Then, pls, point me to the right ng. > > Well. My friend argues that the development of a new HD is not > precalculated and projected. Therefore the result is not predictable. > There's produced "something". Then thoroughly tested and measured its > capacity and other properties. And even after this procedure the > technical data are declared on a new product. Moreover she told me that > this is a reason why there are invested billions of dollars to testing > machines and systems. > > What do you mean about this? I can't believe in that! specifications for a new harddrive has been determined empirically from tests of the hardware. That does not mean, however, that the engineers don't have a good idea what those numbers will be before the testing and refinement stage. For instance, the capacity of the drive is a consequence of the geometry that it employs to store the data. That would have to be designed in. It is possible, though, that the design would have to be tweaked as a consequence of problems uncovered by testing. Pea C wrote:
> I would say that she is more right than wrong.> Well. My friend argues that the development of a new HD is not > precalculated and projected. Therefore the result is not predictable. > There's produced "something". Then thoroughly tested and measured its > capacity and other properties. What you have to understand is that given current hard disk densities and performance you will always be able to achieve better performance on carefully built prototypes in a lab environment than you will with production samples in some guys bedroom. So what I believe happens is that they have a pretty reasonable idea of the performance and capacity from computer modelling and past experience. They will then test pre production samples to find a reasonable window of reliable performance, taking into account things such as failure tolerances, percentage yield of units able to function to desired specification, cost to improve production methods to achieve higher yield at desired performance vs added value in product achieved from that performance, etc..etc Then they will perhaps form some sort of re-grading system (this is done on Processors and other semiconductors) where a unit that fails QA at one performance level may pass at a lower capacity/speed performance window. Hard drives differ from semiconductors in that performance is pretty much down to how closely you dare pack the bits together on the disk surface before getting too many read errors, how fast you dare spin that surface and still be sure you can read/write it in a reliable manner and how fast you dare move the heads around when doing so. Pretty much all of these things are set by the drive controller firmware, but that in turn was programmed to perform in a optimal manner for the average performance of mechanics it is attached to. They probably could have set your drive to be a bit faster or higher capacity, but in doing so they would have either reduced the chances of the thing working at the end of the production line or reduced it's mean time before failure beyond limits they thought acceptable. Pea C wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Hi there. With few exceptions, hard drive technology has not advanced greatly > > I have a pretty odd question about harddisks development and production. > > First of all I apologize if this problem doesn't belong to this ng. > Then, pls, point me to the right ng. > > Well. My friend argues that the development of a new HD is not > precalculated and projected. Therefore the result is not predictable. > There's produced "something". Then thoroughly tested and measured its > capacity and other properties. And even after this procedure the > technical data are declared on a new product. Moreover she told me that > this is a reason why there are invested billions of dollars to testing > machines and systems. > > What do you mean about this? I can't believe in that! > > Thanks to all for your judgements. since 2000. Two hurdles are areal(bit) density and rotational speed. The SATA interface does not increase transfer rates; it allows for 50% more bandwidth than ATA-100, when either one or both of the former are increased. Engineers know all of the electrical and mechanical properties before the prototype is built.
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"Pea C" <a**@abc.kom> wrote in message They do know the exact structure of the platter, its composition is checked news:U5E2e.16949$zY6.8948@news.chello.at... > Hi there. > > I have a pretty odd question about harddisks development and production. > > First of all I apologize if this problem doesn't belong to this ng. Then, > pls, point me to the right ng. > > Well. My friend argues that the development of a new HD is not > precalculated and projected. Therefore the result is not predictable. > There's produced "something". Then thoroughly tested and measured its > capacity and other properties. And even after this procedure the technical > data are declared on a new product. Moreover she told me that this is a > reason why there are invested billions of dollars to testing machines and > systems. > > What do you mean about this? I can't believe in that! > > Thanks to all for your judgements. > -- > Pea C > *** > NEVER LIE, but stretch the truth as far as possible! with a 3D ATOM PROBE which measures both content and structure in ATOMS. -- Chris Technical director CKCCOMPUSCRIPT Apple Computers, Intel, Roland audio, ATI, Microsoft, Sun Solaris, Cisco and Silicone Graphics. Wholesale distributor and specialist audio visual computers and servers FREE SUPPORT @, http://www.ckccomp.plus.com/site/page.HTM ckccom***@hotmail.com Chris wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > "Pea C" <a**@abc.kom> wrote in message Thanks to all for the contributions.> news:U5E2e.16949$zY6.8948@news.chello.at... > >>Hi there. >> >>I have a pretty odd question about harddisks development and production. >> >>First of all I apologize if this problem doesn't belong to this ng. Then, >>pls, point me to the right ng. >> >>Well. My friend argues that the development of a new HD is not >>precalculated and projected. Therefore the result is not predictable. >>There's produced "something". Then thoroughly tested and measured its >>capacity and other properties. And even after this procedure the technical >>data are declared on a new product. Moreover she told me that this is a >>reason why there are invested billions of dollars to testing machines and >>systems. >> >>What do you mean about this? I can't believe in that! >> >>Thanks to all for your judgements. >>-- >>Pea C >>*** >>NEVER LIE, but stretch the truth as far as possible! > > > They do know the exact structure of the platter, its composition is checked > with a 3D ATOM PROBE which measures both content and structure in ATOMS. > > > Though, I think the research of the new materials MUST produce some relevant results. The results on which the developers of HDs can build their new products. If Marie Curie was able to crash atoms in primitive conditions, contemporain scientists have to know how to stick them for new materials. -- Pea C *** NEVER LIE, but stretch the truth as far as possible! |
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