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Author
26 Mar 2005 3:46 AM
Ian D. Weatherall
Hello,
I have recently purchased a new 160Gb 7200rpm 8mb cache HDD, and have a
question concerning performance when used in conjunction with another 40Gb
7200 2mb cache drive.
I intended to use the smaller drive as the system drive and the larger drive
as storage, but I wont get the performance of the bigger cache setting
things up this way.
Am I correct?
Regards,
Ian

Author
26 Mar 2005 4:22 AM
jim dorey
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:46:36 -0500, Ian D. Weatherall <pa***@csolve.net> 
wrote:

> Hello,
> I have recently purchased a new 160Gb 7200rpm 8mb cache HDD, and have a
> question concerning performance when used in conjunction with another 
> 40Gb
> 7200 2mb cache drive.
> I intended to use the smaller drive as the system drive and the larger 
> drive
> as storage, but I wont get the performance of the bigger cache setting
> things up this way.
> Am I correct?
> Regards,
> Ian

depends much on the controller on the motherboard, slower less capable 
drives sometimes slow down the faster ones, but not on a properly designed 
controller.  most of the major part makers have chipsets that properly 
control the drives, it's the odd ducks you must watch for.

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Author
26 Mar 2005 9:29 AM
kony
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:46:36 -0500, "Ian D. Weatherall"
<pa***@csolve.net> wrote:

>Hello,
>I have recently purchased a new 160Gb 7200rpm 8mb cache HDD, and have a
>question concerning performance when used in conjunction with another 40Gb
>7200 2mb cache drive.
>I intended to use the smaller drive as the system drive and the larger drive
>as storage, but I wont get the performance of the bigger cache setting
>things up this way.
>Am I correct?
>Regards,
>Ian

Yes you're correct.  The (larger) cache  being localized to
the new drive, will only be used for I/O to it.
Author
26 Mar 2005 6:32 PM
GTS
"Ian D. Weatherall" <pa***@csolve.net> wrote in message
news:4244da44$1@devmonkey....
> Hello,
> I have recently purchased a new 160Gb 7200rpm 8mb cache HDD, and have a
> question concerning performance when used in conjunction with another 40Gb
> 7200 2mb cache drive.
> I intended to use the smaller drive as the system drive and the larger
drive
> as storage, but I wont get the performance of the bigger cache setting
> things up this way.
> Am I correct?
> Regards,
> Ian
I have exactly this setup myself. A 40gb boot drive on IDE1, and a 160gb on
IDE2 divided into four partitions. To make the most of the faster drive, I
have installed all programs, games etc onto it, and I do notice how much
quicker games load from the faster drive than the older one. I use the C:
drive just for windows and storage of files. This setup works fine for me,
maybe Windows does'nt boot quite as fast as it could do but not too worried
about that. It also means I can quickly / regularly create a ghost backup
image of C: onto the bigger drive, just in case.
Graham
Author
26 Mar 2005 9:44 PM
ohaya
GTS wrote:
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>
> "Ian D. Weatherall" <pa***@csolve.net> wrote in message
> news:4244da44$1@devmonkey....
> > Hello,
> > I have recently purchased a new 160Gb 7200rpm 8mb cache HDD, and have a
> > question concerning performance when used in conjunction with another 40Gb
> > 7200 2mb cache drive.
> > I intended to use the smaller drive as the system drive and the larger
> drive
> > as storage, but I wont get the performance of the bigger cache setting
> > things up this way.
> > Am I correct?
> > Regards,
> > Ian
> I have exactly this setup myself. A 40gb boot drive on IDE1, and a 160gb on
> IDE2 divided into four partitions. To make the most of the faster drive, I
> have installed all programs, games etc onto it, and I do notice how much
> quicker games load from the faster drive than the older one. I use the C:
> drive just for windows and storage of files. This setup works fine for me,
> maybe Windows does'nt boot quite as fast as it could do but not too worried
> about that. It also means I can quickly / regularly create a ghost backup
> image of C: onto the bigger drive, just in case.
> Graham


Graham,

Since the 2nd/larger drive is faster and has a larger cache, if you have
room or a spare partition on it, you might want to configure windows to
put the swap disk on the 2nd drive.  That should help also, plus it'll
free up space in your C: partition/1st drive.

Just a thought...

Jim
Author
27 Mar 2005 1:31 AM
GTS
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"ohaya" <oh***@cox.net> wrote in message news:4245D7DB.78AA9075@cox.net...
>
>
> GTS wrote:
> >
> > "Ian D. Weatherall" <pa***@csolve.net> wrote in message
> > news:4244da44$1@devmonkey....
> > > Hello,
> > > I have recently purchased a new 160Gb 7200rpm 8mb cache HDD, and have
a
> > > question concerning performance when used in conjunction with another
40Gb
> > > 7200 2mb cache drive.
> > > I intended to use the smaller drive as the system drive and the larger
> > drive
> > > as storage, but I wont get the performance of the bigger cache setting
> > > things up this way.
> > > Am I correct?
> > > Regards,
> > > Ian
> > I have exactly this setup myself. A 40gb boot drive on IDE1, and a 160gb
on
> > IDE2 divided into four partitions. To make the most of the faster drive,
I
> > have installed all programs, games etc onto it, and I do notice how much
> > quicker games load from the faster drive than the older one. I use the
C:
> > drive just for windows and storage of files. This setup works fine for
me,
> > maybe Windows does'nt boot quite as fast as it could do but not too
worried
> > about that. It also means I can quickly / regularly create a ghost
backup
> > image of C: onto the bigger drive, just in case.
> > Graham
>
>
> Graham,
>
> Since the 2nd/larger drive is faster and has a larger cache, if you have
> room or a spare partition on it, you might want to configure windows to
> put the swap disk on the 2nd drive.  That should help also, plus it'll
> free up space in your C: partition/1st drive.
>
> Just a thought...
>
> Jim
Good point. In fact I have set up the swap disk on the faster drive, just
forgot to mention it!
Graham
Author
27 Mar 2005 2:06 AM
ohaya
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> > Graham,
> >
> > Since the 2nd/larger drive is faster and has a larger cache, if you have
> > room or a spare partition on it, you might want to configure windows to
> > put the swap disk on the 2nd drive.  That should help also, plus it'll
> > free up space in your C: partition/1st drive.
> >
> > Just a thought...
> >
> > Jim
> Good point. In fact I have set up the swap disk on the faster drive, just
> forgot to mention it!
> Graham


Graham,

I do it habitually on my systems, even when I have multiple partitions
on a single drive, but since you have two drives, you'll get the added
benefit of spreading the accesses across the two drives in addition to
it (the swap disk) being on a faster device.

Jim
Author
27 Mar 2005 4:45 AM
Ian D. Weatherall
Thank you for the sugggestions guys,
Sounds like I should seet things up like this:

40Gb 2Mb cache:
P1:Windows
P2:Documents

160Gb 8Mb Cache:
P1:Swap File
P2:Programs

Regards,
Ian


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"ohaya" <oh***@cox.net> wrote in message news:4246153D.2E4713E4@cox.net...
>> > Graham,
>> >
>> > Since the 2nd/larger drive is faster and has a larger cache, if you
>> > have
>> > room or a spare partition on it, you might want to configure windows to
>> > put the swap disk on the 2nd drive.  That should help also, plus it'll
>> > free up space in your C: partition/1st drive.
>> >
>> > Just a thought...
>> >
>> > Jim
>> Good point. In fact I have set up the swap disk on the faster drive, just
>> forgot to mention it!
>> Graham
>
>
> Graham,
>
> I do it habitually on my systems, even when I have multiple partitions
> on a single drive, but since you have two drives, you'll get the added
> benefit of spreading the accesses across the two drives in addition to
> it (the swap disk) being on a faster device.
>
> Jim
Author
27 Mar 2005 5:38 AM
CBFalconer
*** top-posting fixed ***
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"Ian D. Weatherall" wrote:
> "ohaya" <oh***@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Since the 2nd/larger drive is faster and has a larger cache,
>>>> if you have room or a spare partition on it, you might want
>>>> to configure windows to put the swap disk on the 2nd drive.
>>>> That should help also, plus it'll free up space in your C:
>>>> partition/1st drive.
>>>
>>> Good point. In fact I have set up the swap disk on the faster
>>> drive, just forgot to mention it!
>>
>> I do it habitually on my systems, even when I have multiple
>> partitions on a single drive, but since you have two drives,
>> you'll get the added benefit of spreading the accesses across
>> the two drives in addition to it (the swap disk) being on a
>> faster device.
>
> Thank you for the sugggestions guys,
> Sounds like I should seet things up like this:
>
> 40Gb 2Mb cache:
> P1:Windows
> P2:Documents
>
> 160Gb 8Mb Cache:
> P1:Swap File
> P2:Programs

That will do IF windows is smart enough to reload code segments
directly from the executable file, rather than doing a relocate and
swapping things back and forth to the swap file.  If it does the
latter both halves of that path will be on the same drive, leading
to thrashing.  I have no idea what situation applies and when, I
just know I mistrust all Microsoft software.

BTW, please don't toppost.

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