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Hardware raid
all the pci cards i've seen so far are scsi, and those drives cost a mint, i would prefer sata. Are there any motherboard that support it onboard? thanks -- "Blu-Ray" 2600+Sempron (O/C @1.924Ghz) 512Mb DDR 400 9600 pro 128 (O/C @ 425/540) Gigabyte 7VT600P-RZ mobo with 400mhz fsb Raidmax cobra case with 420w psu Dual 12" Blue CCFL Blue LED fans "Cheap and very cheerful" Veritech wrote:
> Whats the cheapest way of using raid 5. Do a google search on "sata raid"> > all the pci cards i've seen so far are scsi, and those drives cost a mint, i > would prefer sata. > Are there any motherboard that support it onboard? > > thanks > "Bennett Price" <bjpriceNOSPAM@itsa.ucsf.edu> wrote in message And the OP should be aware that the "cheap and cheerful" RAID solutions news:7oE%d.20839$Pz7.10832@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... > Veritech wrote: > >> Whats the cheapest way of using raid 5. >> >> all the pci cards i've seen so far are scsi, and those drives cost a >> mint, i would prefer sata. >> Are there any motherboard that support it onboard? >> >> thanks >> > Do a google search on "sata raid" (particularly common on consumer class motherboards) will be 0 or 1 or 0+1/10 and not RAID 5 capable, they'll also be software RAID. For full hardware RAID (such as the sort built by 3WARE), you pay allot of money. I have a 3ware 7500-4LP RAID card in my machine (which I bought second hand via eBay) and although its capable of handling RAID 5, it performs faster in RAID 10 mode - that will be the case with all RAID cards. The 3Ware website is at www.3ware.com Paul Paul Murphy wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > "Bennett Price" <bjpriceNOSPAM@itsa.ucsf.edu> wrote in message Agreed. If the OP wants to do "proper" SATA hardware RAID, the 8000 or 9000 > news:7oE%d.20839$Pz7.10832@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... >> Veritech wrote: >> >>> Whats the cheapest way of using raid 5. >>> >>> all the pci cards i've seen so far are scsi, and those drives cost a >>> mint, i would prefer sata. >>> Are there any motherboard that support it onboard? >>> >>> thanks >>> >> Do a google search on "sata raid" > And the OP should be aware that the "cheap and cheerful" RAID > solutions (particularly common on consumer class motherboards) will > be 0 or 1 or 0+1/10 and not RAID 5 capable, they'll also be software > RAID. For full hardware RAID (such as the sort built by 3WARE), you > pay allot of money. I have a 3ware 7500-4LP RAID card in my machine > (which I bought second hand via eBay) and although its capable of > handling RAID 5, it performs faster in RAID 10 mode - that will be > the case with all RAID cards. The 3Ware website is at www.3ware.com series is a good choice. i had a feeling that it was software raid, but thought as there was a
physically controller on the motherboard this may not be the case. Out of interest what kind of load does it put on the CPU in RAID 1? thanks for the replies "S.Heenan" <shee***@wahs.ac> wrote in message news:vsF%d.750996$8l.555589@pd7tw1no...Show quoteHide quote > Paul Murphy wrote: >> "Bennett Price" <bjpriceNOSPAM@itsa.ucsf.edu> wrote in message >> news:7oE%d.20839$Pz7.10832@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... >>> Veritech wrote: >>> >>>> Whats the cheapest way of using raid 5. >>>> >>>> all the pci cards i've seen so far are scsi, and those drives cost a >>>> mint, i would prefer sata. >>>> Are there any motherboard that support it onboard? >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> >>> Do a google search on "sata raid" >> And the OP should be aware that the "cheap and cheerful" RAID >> solutions (particularly common on consumer class motherboards) will >> be 0 or 1 or 0+1/10 and not RAID 5 capable, they'll also be software >> RAID. For full hardware RAID (such as the sort built by 3WARE), you >> pay allot of money. I have a 3ware 7500-4LP RAID card in my machine >> (which I bought second hand via eBay) and although its capable of >> handling RAID 5, it performs faster in RAID 10 mode - that will be >> the case with all RAID cards. The 3Ware website is at www.3ware.com > > Agreed. If the OP wants to do "proper" SATA hardware RAID, the 8000 or > 9000 series is a good choice. > Veritech wrote:
> i had a feeling that it was software raid, but thought as there was a Less than 3% according to 3Ware.> physically controller on the motherboard this may not be the case. > Out of interest what kind of load does it put on the CPU in RAID 1? http://3ware.com/products/serial_ata9000.asp Using the 9500S-4LP and four 37GB 10K WD Raptors in RAID0, expect to see 140MB/sec. sorry my mistake, i meant what was the cpu load using software raid not
hardware raid thanks for the info anyhow "S.Heenan" <shee***@wahs.ac> wrote in message news:TNG%d.747399$Xk.515463@pd7tw3no...Show quoteHide quote > Veritech wrote: >> i had a feeling that it was software raid, but thought as there was a >> physically controller on the motherboard this may not be the case. >> Out of interest what kind of load does it put on the CPU in RAID 1? > > Less than 3% according to 3Ware. > http://3ware.com/products/serial_ata9000.asp > > Using the 9500S-4LP and four 37GB 10K WD Raptors in RAID0, expect to see > 140MB/sec. > Veritech wrote:
> sorry my mistake, i meant what was the cpu load using software raid On the order of 5-7% using a Barton at 2300MHz, IIRC.> not hardware raid > thanks for the info anyhow There are NO motherboards that support RAID 5 SATA, or IDE for that matter.
-- Show quoteHide quoteDaveW "Veritech" <avis.dalrym***@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:d9E%d.36158$3A6.28159@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net... > Whats the cheapest way of using raid 5. > > all the pci cards i've seen so far are scsi, and those drives cost a mint, > i would prefer sata. > Are there any motherboard that support it onboard? > > thanks > > -- > "Blu-Ray" > 2600+Sempron (O/C @1.924Ghz) > 512Mb DDR 400 > 9600 pro 128 (O/C @ 425/540) > Gigabyte 7VT600P-RZ mobo with 400mhz fsb > Raidmax cobra case with 420w psu > Dual 12" Blue CCFL > Blue LED fans > "Cheap and very cheerful" > Thanks a bunch guys
Show quoteHide quote "DaveW" <n***@zero.org> wrote in message news:W8-dndNvF40bwqLfRVn-vw@comcast.com... > There are NO motherboards that support RAID 5 SATA, or IDE for that > matter. > > -- > DaveW > > > > "Veritech" <avis.dalrym***@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > news:d9E%d.36158$3A6.28159@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net... >> Whats the cheapest way of using raid 5. >> >> all the pci cards i've seen so far are scsi, and those drives cost a >> mint, i would prefer sata. >> Are there any motherboard that support it onboard? >> >> thanks >> >> -- >> "Blu-Ray" >> 2600+Sempron (O/C @1.924Ghz) >> 512Mb DDR 400 >> 9600 pro 128 (O/C @ 425/540) >> Gigabyte 7VT600P-RZ mobo with 400mhz fsb >> Raidmax cobra case with 420w psu >> Dual 12" Blue CCFL >> Blue LED fans >> "Cheap and very cheerful" >> > > On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:21:53 GMT, "Veritech"
<avis.dalrym***@ntlworld.com> wrote: >Thanks a bunch guys I just noticed that Raidmax power supply in your sig...I wouldn't try running RAID 5 off of that, if that was your intention as it's a liability already. It's certainly not a true 420W power supply. Thanks for the concern but i wouldn't dream of doing such a thing.
besides i've got two ata hdd and my motherboard only supports sata raid 0 & 1, lol. The raidmax psu is "good" but no where need that good(i mean good as in it does the job) 3.2v on the 3v 12.1 on 12v I had just wanted to know how much that sort of thing would cost Show quoteHide quote "kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message news:k5nv31hd9tv8k6g2o026d56t1act6fbeh6@4ax.com... > On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:21:53 GMT, "Veritech" > <avis.dalrym***@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >>Thanks a bunch guys > > > I just noticed that Raidmax power supply in your sig... > I wouldn't try running RAID 5 off of that, if that was your > intention as it's a liability already. It's certainly not a > true 420W power supply. "DaveW" <n***@zero.org> wrote in message Not true, there are motherboards being produced now that have Raid news:W8-dndNvF40bwqLfRVn-vw@comcast.com... > There are NO motherboards that support RAID 5 SATA, or IDE for that > matter. > > -- > DaveW > controller chips embeded that support Raid 5. Here is a link to a review of one such versus seperate Raid controller cards. http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=r52005&page=1&cookie%5Ftest=1&MSCSProfile=95385A1F52DEA1A229D5B375420544642034A0BB58C21A0B9B001720F73B34667E647F2005C7572588C1B04DFCBC46B2C99B0A39132EFB6E05072B5B62FCFC3239B72C92C966C6D070C7A3FC9A9608EC766EAC991F222AC2957289CFED6DBE5D28C286988E0839B029CA49058EF410DC9F2002343F7CBA6C7836AA8054846F6619ADAC0BEB119CF1 Show quoteHide quote > > > "Veritech" <avis.dalrym***@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > news:d9E%d.36158$3A6.28159@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net... >> Whats the cheapest way of using raid 5. >> >> all the pci cards i've seen so far are scsi, and those drives cost a >> mint, i would prefer sata. >> Are there any motherboard that support it onboard? >> >> thanks >> >> -- >> "Blu-Ray" >> 2600+Sempron (O/C @1.924Ghz) >> 512Mb DDR 400 >> 9600 pro 128 (O/C @ 425/540) >> Gigabyte 7VT600P-RZ mobo with 400mhz fsb >> Raidmax cobra case with 420w psu >> Dual 12" Blue CCFL >> Blue LED fans >> "Cheap and very cheerful" >> > > 
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