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Gettting into BIOS?
Is it necessary to have a floppy drive or for that matter a hard drive or cd drive connected just to get into the BIOS? Should I be able to get into the BIOS even without drives connected? Thanks "geezer" <w**@willy.com> wrote in message Why do you want/need to get into the BIOS setup screens and what have you news:qbvn31hn5v992rr3s4kelfr6s7qu847aos@4ax.com... >I have an inherited emachines and I cannot get very far in the bootup. > > Is it necessary to have a floppy drive or for that matter a hard drive > or cd drive connected just to get into the BIOS? Should I be able to > get into the BIOS even without drives connected? > > Thanks > tried? Also what are the full machine details - there are lots of inherited machines out there and they do differ ;-) Paul "geezer" <w**@willy.com> wrote in message At the end of the POST (power-on self-test), you probably see a table of news:qbvn31hn5v992rr3s4kelfr6s7qu847aos@4ax.com... >I have an inherited emachines and I cannot get very far in the bootup. > > Is it necessary to have a floppy drive or for that matter a hard drive > or cd drive connected just to get into the BIOS? Should I be able to > get into the BIOS even without drives connected? > > Thanks > found drives followed by a list of interrupts assigned (what screen you see depends on the BIOS you have). Just before loading the operating system, there should be a note, usually at the bottom of the screen as to which key to hit to enter BIOS setup. Could be F8, F1, Esc, Del, or whatever key that version of the BIOS wants to use. You get about 2 seconds to hit that key before the BIOS then begins to look for the bootstrap program in the MBR (sector 0) of the drives. -- ____________________________________________________________ Post your replies to the newsgroup. Share with others. E-mail reply: Remove "NIXTHIS" and add "#VS811" to Subject. ____________________________________________________________ "geezer" <w**@willy.com> wrote in message Try the most used keys one at a time tapping from power on with ½ second news:qbvn31hn5v992rr3s4kelfr6s7qu847aos@4ax.com... >I have an inherited emachines and I cannot get very far in the bootup. > > Is it necessary to have a floppy drive or for that matter a hard drive > or cd drive connected just to get into the BIOS? Should I be able to > get into the BIOS even without drives connected? > > Thanks > intervals. F1, F2, F10, Del In other words from power on tap the F1 key twice per second. If that doesn't work power down and turn back on tapping the F2 key. Etc, etc. I think Emachine is either F1 or Del. -- "I don't cheat to survive. I cheat to LIVE!!" - Alceryes The best thing you can do for yourself is to get to the manufacturer's
website and find a manual for each of your machines. Some computer makers made machines that you needed a floppy drive to access the bios (Zenith, Compaq, among others) for their 486 machines. -- Show quoteHide quoteJan Alter bear***@verizon.net or jal***@phila.k12.pa.us "Alceryes" <replytop***@thankyou.com> wrote in message news:qo2dnegNYIrd2KHfRVn-uQ@comcast.com... > "geezer" <w**@willy.com> wrote in message > news:qbvn31hn5v992rr3s4kelfr6s7qu847aos@4ax.com... >>I have an inherited emachines and I cannot get very far in the bootup. >> >> Is it necessary to have a floppy drive or for that matter a hard drive >> or cd drive connected just to get into the BIOS? Should I be able to >> get into the BIOS even without drives connected? >> >> Thanks >> > > Try the most used keys one at a time tapping from power on with ½ second > intervals. > F1, F2, F10, Del > In other words from power on tap the F1 key twice per second. If that > doesn't work power down and turn back on tapping the F2 key. Etc, etc. > I think Emachine is either F1 or Del. > -- > > > "I don't cheat to survive. I cheat to LIVE!!" > - Alceryes > > Alceryes wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > "geezer" <w**@willy.com> wrote in message Just wanted to add: The interval in which the boot will look for this > news:qbvn31hn5v992rr3s4kelfr6s7qu847aos@4ax.com... > >>I have an inherited emachines and I cannot get very far in the bootup. >> >>Is it necessary to have a floppy drive or for that matter a hard drive >>or cd drive connected just to get into the BIOS? Should I be able to >>get into the BIOS even without drives connected? >> >>Thanks >> > > > Try the most used keys one at a time tapping from power on with ½ second > intervals. > F1, F2, F10, Del > In other words from power on tap the F1 key twice per second. If that > doesn't work power down and turn back on tapping the F2 key. Etc, etc. > I think Emachine is either F1 or Del. keypress can be quite short. I recently had a Gateway machine that was configured so that I only had a fraction of a second to make that keystroke -- it took me nearly twenty reboots before I got lucky. "Alceryes" wrote: With my Dell, once the POST is done (evidenced by the> Try the most used keys one at a time tapping from power on > with ½ second intervals. F1, F2, F10, Del > In other words from power on tap the F1 key twice per second. > If that doesn't work power down and turn back on tapping the > F2 key. Etc, etc. I think Emachine is either F1 or Del. completion of the memory test) pressing Del anytime during the following 8 t0 10 seconds will cause the BIOS menu to appear after the hard drives are found. IOW, the "Del" keypress is remembered, and repeated keypresses are unnecessary. *TimDaiels* On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:22:16 GMT, geezer <w**@willy.com>
wrote: >I have an inherited emachines and I cannot get very far in the bootup. Which eMachine? Or rather, what mobo is in it?> >Is it necessary to have a floppy drive or for that matter a hard drive >or cd drive connected just to get into the BIOS? Should I be able to >get into the BIOS even without drives connected? > >Thanks No you do not need any drives to access the bios. Often the PSU gets flaky/fails on eMachines, or maybe a fan failure... end result is system is too instable to get into bios? That isn't as common as complete failure to POST but not so uncommon either, I've seen it several times. On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:07:39 GMT, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>Which eMachine? Or rather, what mobo is in it? emachines etower 400i3> >No you do not need any drives to access the bios. >Often the PSU gets flaky/fails on eMachines, or maybe a fan >failure... end result is system is too instable to get into >bios? That isn't as common as complete failure to POST but >not so uncommon either, I've seen it several times. Motherboard - MEW-VM, Rev. 2.03, Baby ATX Apparently an HP pull Processor - Celeron 400, Socket 370 Memory - 2 256 PC 133 SDRAMs Drives - A:FDD not original; may be bad C:Western Digital 20G D:CD-ROM E:CD-RW, 24X Plextor Power Supply - 145W Thanks On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:50:32 GMT, geezer <w**@willy.com>
wrote: Show quoteHide quote >On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:07:39 GMT, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote: System has been rebuilt once already?> >>Which eMachine? Or rather, what mobo is in it? >> >>No you do not need any drives to access the bios. >>Often the PSU gets flaky/fails on eMachines, or maybe a fan >>failure... end result is system is too instable to get into >>bios? That isn't as common as complete failure to POST but >>not so uncommon either, I've seen it several times. > > > >emachines etower 400i3 > >Motherboard - MEW-VM, Rev. 2.03, Baby ATX > Apparently an HP pull Just uncommon to find one OEM board it a not-so-much-older OEM system. Regardless, MEW-VM is an Asus board and generally used <DEL> to get into bios, but HP BIOS would probably change that to <F1> There is nothing in particular you need connected to get into bios, merely having the parts needed to post, which would be 1 memory module, CPU, heatsink/fan, and the (integrated) video. Machine is getting that age where you might want to check the battery too. > As mentioned previously, check power supply, try another>Processor - Celeron 400, Socket 370 > >Memory - 2 256 PC 133 SDRAMs > >Drives - A:FDD not original; may be bad > C:Western Digital 20G > D:CD-ROM > E:CD-RW, 24X Plextor > >Power Supply - 145W one. Examine board for failed caps too. On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:30:21 GMT, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>System has been rebuilt once already? Thanks>Just uncommon to find one OEM board it a not-so-much-older >OEM system. Regardless, MEW-VM is an Asus board and >generally used <DEL> to get into bios, but HP BIOS would >probably change that to <F1> > >There is nothing in particular you need connected to get >into bios, merely having the parts needed to post, which >would be 1 memory module, CPU, heatsink/fan, and the >(integrated) video. > >Machine is getting that age where you might want to check >the battery too. You need to have a CPU, RAM and a video card attached to get into the BIOS.
-- Show quoteHide quoteDaveW "geezer" <w**@willy.com> wrote in message news:qbvn31hn5v992rr3s4kelfr6s7qu847aos@4ax.com... >I have an inherited emachines and I cannot get very far in the bootup. > > Is it necessary to have a floppy drive or for that matter a hard drive > or cd drive connected just to get into the BIOS? Should I be able to > get into the BIOS even without drives connected? > > Thanks > geezer <w**@willy.com> wrote:
>I have an inherited emachines and I cannot get very far in the bootup. I once had to work on a machine which I wasn't able to find the> >Is it necessary to have a floppy drive or for that matter a hard drive >or cd drive connected just to get into the BIOS? Should I be able to >get into the BIOS even without drives connected? > >Thanks > correct BIOS entry key for. A technician gave me a hint which worked for that machine. He told me to disconnect the floppy drive, then reboot. When I did this, the machine complained that the floppy drive was missing or faulty and said "press the X key to enter BIOS setup" (can't remember now which key was the X key). MIght be worth a shot? Cheers, John S 
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