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Can SATA be run from IDE motherboard?
will allow it to be run from an IDE only motherboard? I need a new hdd and want to get a SATA hdd, but I don't want to change my mobo yet. Thanks. Emlyn wrote:
> Just wondering if there's such a thing as an adaptor for a SATA hdd I've seen PCI cards that allow SATA drives to be connected.> which will allow it to be run from an IDE only motherboard? -- (O)enone On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:52:59 GMT, "Emlyn"
<emlynnospam@utvinternet.com> wrote: >Just wondering if there's such a thing as an adaptor for a SATA hdd which There are 2 ways:>will allow it to be run from an IDE only motherboard? > >I need a new hdd and want to get a SATA hdd, but I don't want to change my >mobo yet. - Buy an IDE to Sata converter - Buy a new harddisk interface. Neither methode is advisable for normal use though. A converter is relatively expensive and offers no benefit. A SATA controller will probably slow your system down. It would share PCI bandwidth while your onboard IDE controller has it's own 'highway to the CPU' so to say. -- Kind regards, Gerard Bok In article <423aea71.443***@News.Individual.NET>, bok***@zonnet.nl
says... Show quoteHide quote > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:52:59 GMT, "Emlyn" No it doesn't, the ide controller is on the pci bus as well.> <emlynnospam@utvinternet.com> wrote: > > >Just wondering if there's such a thing as an adaptor for a SATA hdd which > >will allow it to be run from an IDE only motherboard? > > > >I need a new hdd and want to get a SATA hdd, but I don't want to change my > >mobo yet. > > There are 2 ways: > - Buy an IDE to Sata converter > - Buy a new harddisk interface. > > Neither methode is advisable for normal use though. > A converter is relatively expensive and offers no benefit. > A SATA controller will probably slow your system down. > It would share PCI bandwidth while your onboard IDE controller > has it's own 'highway to the CPU' so to say. > > Get a pci SATA card. Promise makes a good one. On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:17:10 GMT, theyak <y**@dev.null>
wrote: Show quoteHide quote >In article <423aea71.443***@News.Individual.NET>, bok***@zonnet.nl IDE as integrated into semi-modern southbridge is not "on>says... >> On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:52:59 GMT, "Emlyn" >> <emlynnospam@utvinternet.com> wrote: >> >> >Just wondering if there's such a thing as an adaptor for a SATA hdd which >> >will allow it to be run from an IDE only motherboard? >> > >> >I need a new hdd and want to get a SATA hdd, but I don't want to change my >> >mobo yet. >> >> There are 2 ways: >> - Buy an IDE to Sata converter >> - Buy a new harddisk interface. >> >> Neither methode is advisable for normal use though. >> A converter is relatively expensive and offers no benefit. >> A SATA controller will probably slow your system down. >> It would share PCI bandwidth while your onboard IDE controller >> has it's own 'highway to the CPU' so to say. >> >> > > >No it doesn't, the ide controller is on the pci bus as well. > >Get a pci SATA card. Promise makes a good one. the PCI bus". The logical connection is similar to SATA on southbridge, that is, beyond the interface standard itself. SATA adapters are relatively expensive (for what they are), and an SATA PCI card will be slower. It almost seems the best course to just buy a PATA HDD instead. Seems like a couple weeks ago I saw an 80GB for $30 or $40 after rebate... next motherboard OP buys will have PATA controller anyway so it "could" be reused, or at worst as supplimental storage it would cost $20 in the long run ($40 minus $20 cost of adapter or PCI card). kony wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:17:10 GMT, theyak <y**@dev.null> I'd have to agree with that. Bargains come up frequently if one pays > wrote: > > >>In article <423aea71.443***@News.Individual.NET>, bok***@zonnet.nl >>says... >> >>>On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:52:59 GMT, "Emlyn" >>><emlynnospam@utvinternet.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Just wondering if there's such a thing as an adaptor for a SATA hdd which >>>>will allow it to be run from an IDE only motherboard? >>>> >>>>I need a new hdd and want to get a SATA hdd, but I don't want to change my >>>>mobo yet. >>> >>>There are 2 ways: >>>- Buy an IDE to Sata converter >>>- Buy a new harddisk interface. >>> >>>Neither methode is advisable for normal use though. >>>A converter is relatively expensive and offers no benefit. >>>A SATA controller will probably slow your system down. >>>It would share PCI bandwidth while your onboard IDE controller >>>has it's own 'highway to the CPU' so to say. >>> >>> >> >> >>No it doesn't, the ide controller is on the pci bus as well. >> >>Get a pci SATA card. Promise makes a good one. > > > IDE as integrated into semi-modern southbridge is not "on > the PCI bus". The logical connection is similar to SATA on > southbridge, that is, beyond the interface standard itself. > > SATA adapters are relatively expensive (for what they are), > and an SATA PCI card will be slower. It almost seems the > best course to just buy a PATA HDD instead. Seems like a > couple weeks ago I saw an 80GB for $30 or $40 after > rebate... next motherboard OP buys will have PATA controller > anyway so it "could" be reused, or at worst as supplimental > storage it would cost $20 in the long run ($40 minus $20 > cost of adapter or PCI card). > attention. I've bought two Seagate retail-boxed 5-year-waranteed 200gB PATA drives over the past couple of months for approx $70 each. With an oldish system it would probably be necessary to add a PCI controller to handle that sort of capacity but they aren't that expensive. Adaptec's ASH-1233 is quite good but is a bit higher than others on the market. I'd guess that PATA will probably be around for another five years as a viable standard. just buy a sata controller. I bought mine off ebay for less than 20 bucks,
generic model, no brand, and been using 2 HD on it without any problems. The speed also compares to what sata drives are suppose to do which leads me to beleive it is not being slowed down. Go with SATA, add a controller card if you have too. no problems. Show quoteHide quote "Emlyn" <emlynnospam@utvinternet.com> wrote in message news:viz_d.1923$MO6.612@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net... > Just wondering if there's such a thing as an adaptor for a SATA hdd which > will allow it to be run from an IDE only motherboard? > > I need a new hdd and want to get a SATA hdd, but I don't want to change my > mobo yet. > > Thanks. > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:58:57 -0500, "té_qui"
<té_***@hotmailcrap.com> wrote: >just buy a sata controller. I bought mine off ebay for less than 20 bucks, An SATA PCI controller can indeed benchmark pretty good.>generic model, no brand, and been using 2 HD on it without any problems. The >speed also compares to what sata drives are suppose to do which leads me to >beleive it is not being slowed down. Go with SATA, add a controller card if >you have too. no problems. > Problem is, that's a scenario when only the drive is being accessed, not a typical use where someone might have audio, lan, etc, taking up a significant portion of PCI bandwidth too, let alone throwing in a PCI video card or capture card. For example, copying a file from a remote location on lan with a PCI Gb NIC, previewing it while editing, and saving to a drive on a PCI SATA card, it will be noticably slower in many cases. Go for PATA HDD.
Any new mobo has both SATA and PATA Show quoteHide quote "Emlyn" <emlynnospam@utvinternet.com> wrote in message news:viz_d.1923$MO6.612@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net... > Just wondering if there's such a thing as an adaptor for a SATA hdd which > will allow it to be run from an IDE only motherboard? > > I need a new hdd and want to get a SATA hdd, but I don't want to change my > mobo yet. > > Thanks. > You can install an inexpensive SATA PCI card.
-- Show quoteHide quoteDaveW "Emlyn" <emlynnospam@utvinternet.com> wrote in message news:viz_d.1923$MO6.612@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net... > Just wondering if there's such a thing as an adaptor for a SATA hdd which > will allow it to be run from an IDE only motherboard? > > I need a new hdd and want to get a SATA hdd, but I don't want to change my > mobo yet. > > Thanks. >
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