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Author
16 Mar 2005 10:34 AM
John.N.
NG,

I want to upgrade my USB1.1 to USB2.0,     but my existing is 'onboard' my
Dell M/C and does not allow me to add a new USB card. Is there a an adapter
available that I can plug into my USB1.1 port to give me a USB2.0 output
port?


Thanks J.

Author
16 Mar 2005 11:24 AM
DevilsPGD
In message <W8idnTqAsLrllqXfRVn***@eclipse.net.uk> "John.N."
<jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:

>NG,
>
>I want to upgrade my USB1.1 to USB2.0,     but my existing is 'onboard' my
>Dell M/C and does not allow me to add a new USB card. Is there a an adapter
>available that I can plug into my USB1.1 port to give me a USB2.0 output
>port?

Short answer: No.

USB2.0 will fall back to USB1.1 if not all devices support USB2.0, but
you won't be able to take advantage of the higher speeds of USB2.0

Why can't you install a new USB card?


--
For recreational use only.
Author
16 Mar 2005 12:10 PM
Jerry G.
You cannot add something on to a USB 1.1 to get USB 2.0. The source
specifications is for USB 1.1, and that is what the bottleneck will be.

If your computer has a spare slot, you can add a USB 2.0 card. Some mother
boards, depending on the BIOS, and the operating system characteristics (if
Win 98 is used), will not work well with USB 2.0.

--

Jerry G.
======


"John.N." <jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
news:W8idnTqAsLrllqXfRVnyjw@eclipse.net.uk...
NG,

I want to upgrade my USB1.1 to USB2.0,     but my existing is 'onboard' my
Dell M/C and does not allow me to add a new USB card. Is there a an adapter
available that I can plug into my USB1.1 port to give me a USB2.0 output
port?


Thanks J.
Author
17 Mar 2005 12:12 AM
DaveW
No.  You will need a new motherboard to get USB 2.0. if you cannot install a
PCI card.

--
DaveW



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"John.N." <jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
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> NG,
>
> I want to upgrade my USB1.1 to USB2.0,     but my existing is 'onboard' my
> Dell M/C and does not allow me to add a new USB card. Is there a an
> adapter
> available that I can plug into my USB1.1 port to give me a USB2.0 output
> port?
>
>
> Thanks J.
>
>
Author
19 Mar 2005 11:19 AM
Paul Murphy
"John.N." <jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
news:W8idnTqAsLrllqXfRVnyjw@eclipse.net.uk...
> NG,
>
> I want to upgrade my USB1.1 to USB2.0,     but my existing is 'onboard' my
> Dell M/C and does not allow me to add a new USB card. Is there a an
> adapter

Just because you have USB 1.1 built into the motherboard doesn't mean that
will prevent you from adding a USB 2.0 card - I have both on my machine. All
you need is a spare PCI slot to plug the card into (and the know-how of how
to do that - or a computer shop that's willing to fit the card they sell
you).

Paul
Author
19 Mar 2005 11:19 PM
George
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"Paul Murphy" <p_murphynothanks@tospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "John.N." <jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:W8idnTqAsLrllqXfRVnyjw@eclipse.net.uk...
> > NG,
> >
> > I want to upgrade my USB1.1 to USB2.0,     but my existing is 'onboard'
my
> > Dell M/C and does not allow me to add a new USB card. Is there a an
> > adapter
>
> Just because you have USB 1.1 built into the motherboard doesn't mean that
> will prevent you from adding a USB 2.0 card - I have both on my machine.
All
> you need is a spare PCI slot to plug the card into (and the know-how of
how
> to do that - or a computer shop that's willing to fit the card they sell
> you).
>
> Paul
>

Yes, but his problem is that like a lot of  dell boxes his doesn't have AGP
or PCI slots.
Author
20 Mar 2005 6:36 AM
DevilsPGD
In message <uLqdnU9K2KX-LqHfRVn***@adelphia.com> "George"
<george@nospam.invalid> wrote:

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>
>"Paul Murphy" <p_murphynothanks@tospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:423c0aaf$0$57191$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
>> "John.N." <jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:W8idnTqAsLrllqXfRVnyjw@eclipse.net.uk...
>> > NG,
>> >
>> > I want to upgrade my USB1.1 to USB2.0,     but my existing is 'onboard'
>my
>> > Dell M/C and does not allow me to add a new USB card. Is there a an
>> > adapter
>>
>> Just because you have USB 1.1 built into the motherboard doesn't mean that
>> will prevent you from adding a USB 2.0 card - I have both on my machine.
>All
>> you need is a spare PCI slot to plug the card into (and the know-how of
>how
>> to do that - or a computer shop that's willing to fit the card they sell
>> you).
>
>Yes, but his problem is that like a lot of  dell boxes his doesn't have AGP
>or PCI slots.
>

He wouldn't need an ADP slot to install a USB card, and I haven't seen a
DELL box in my life without PCI slots.

There could be only a couple and it could be they're already taken, but
if so, and if the project is important there may be other alternatives
(like switching to USB versions of whatever components need to be
removed and connecting them to the USB card)

Where there is a will, there is often a way.


--
Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat.
Author
20 Mar 2005 1:15 PM
John.N.
I've tried fitting a USB2.0 Card into a spare PCI slot but it crashes my
system.With this info I contacted Dell who state that because of the onboard
USB setup I cannot fit a USB2.0  alongside the existing USB1.1.- it  looks
to me as though I need a new motherboard!

John

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"DevilsPGD" <ihatespam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
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> In message <uLqdnU9K2KX-LqHfRVn***@adelphia.com> "George"
> <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Paul Murphy" <p_murphynothanks@tospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:423c0aaf$0$57191$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
> >> "John.N." <jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
> >> news:W8idnTqAsLrllqXfRVnyjw@eclipse.net.uk...
> >> > NG,
> >> >
> >> > I want to upgrade my USB1.1 to USB2.0,     but my existing is
'onboard'
> >my
> >> > Dell M/C and does not allow me to add a new USB card. Is there a an
> >> > adapter
> >>
> >> Just because you have USB 1.1 built into the motherboard doesn't mean
that
> >> will prevent you from adding a USB 2.0 card - I have both on my
machine.
> >All
> >> you need is a spare PCI slot to plug the card into (and the know-how of
> >how
> >> to do that - or a computer shop that's willing to fit the card they
sell
> >> you).
> >
> >Yes, but his problem is that like a lot of  dell boxes his doesn't have
AGP
> >or PCI slots.
> >
>
> He wouldn't need an ADP slot to install a USB card, and I haven't seen a
> DELL box in my life without PCI slots.
>
> There could be only a couple and it could be they're already taken, but
> if so, and if the project is important there may be other alternatives
> (like switching to USB versions of whatever components need to be
> removed and connecting them to the USB card)
>
> Where there is a will, there is often a way.
>
>
> --
> Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat.
Author
20 Mar 2005 2:55 PM
Pen
That sounds bogus. Over in the Dell groups
lots of people, including me, have installed USB
cards along side onboard USB. That said, I did
have to move the card around to a different slot
for windows to detect it properly. Some sort of
IRQ issue I think. Mine's a Dell 4100.

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"John.N." <jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I've tried fitting a USB2.0 Card into a spare PCI slot but it crashes
> my
> system.With this info I contacted Dell who state that because of the
> onboard
> USB setup I cannot fit a USB2.0  alongside the existing USB1.1.- it
> looks
> to me as though I need a new motherboard!
>
> John
>
> "DevilsPGD" <ihatespam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
> news:qvtp31l6ks5ihmblaetjrntcvoa6v7akdl@beta.readfreenews.net...
>> In message <uLqdnU9K2KX-LqHfRVn***@adelphia.com> "George"
>> <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Paul Murphy" <p_murphynothanks@tospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:423c0aaf$0$57191$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
>> >> "John.N." <jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >> news:W8idnTqAsLrllqXfRVnyjw@eclipse.net.uk...
>> >> > NG,
>> >> >
>> >> > I want to upgrade my USB1.1 to USB2.0,     but my existing is
> 'onboard'
>> >my
>> >> > Dell M/C and does not allow me to add a new USB card. Is there a
>> >> > an
>> >> > adapter
>> >>
>> >> Just because you have USB 1.1 built into the motherboard doesn't
>> >> mean
> that
>> >> will prevent you from adding a USB 2.0 card - I have both on my
> machine.
>> >All
>> >> you need is a spare PCI slot to plug the card into (and the
>> >> know-how of
>> >how
>> >> to do that - or a computer shop that's willing to fit the card
>> >> they
> sell
>> >> you).
>> >
>> >Yes, but his problem is that like a lot of  dell boxes his doesn't
>> >have
> AGP
>> >or PCI slots.
>> >
>>
>> He wouldn't need an ADP slot to install a USB card, and I haven't
>> seen a
>> DELL box in my life without PCI slots.
>>
>> There could be only a couple and it could be they're already taken,
>> but
>> if so, and if the project is important there may be other
>> alternatives
>> (like switching to USB versions of whatever components need to be
>> removed and connecting them to the USB card)
>>
>> Where there is a will, there is often a way.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat.
>
>
Author
21 Mar 2005 7:33 PM
John.N.
Mine's a DELL 8100;Could it be the USB Card?

John

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"Pen" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> That sounds bogus. Over in the Dell groups
> lots of people, including me, have installed USB
> cards along side onboard USB. That said, I did
> have to move the card around to a different slot
> for windows to detect it properly. Some sort of
> IRQ issue I think. Mine's a Dell 4100.
>
> "John.N." <jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:e46dnYOLJeHJ6qDfRVnygg@eclipse.net.uk...
> > I've tried fitting a USB2.0 Card into a spare PCI slot but it crashes
> > my
> > system.With this info I contacted Dell who state that because of the
> > onboard
> > USB setup I cannot fit a USB2.0  alongside the existing USB1.1.- it
> > looks
> > to me as though I need a new motherboard!
> >
> > John
> >
> > "DevilsPGD" <ihatespam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
> > news:qvtp31l6ks5ihmblaetjrntcvoa6v7akdl@beta.readfreenews.net...
> >> In message <uLqdnU9K2KX-LqHfRVn***@adelphia.com> "George"
> >> <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Paul Murphy" <p_murphynothanks@tospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:423c0aaf$0$57191$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
> >> >> "John.N." <jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
> >> >> news:W8idnTqAsLrllqXfRVnyjw@eclipse.net.uk...
> >> >> > NG,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I want to upgrade my USB1.1 to USB2.0,     but my existing is
> > 'onboard'
> >> >my
> >> >> > Dell M/C and does not allow me to add a new USB card. Is there a
> >> >> > an
> >> >> > adapter
> >> >>
> >> >> Just because you have USB 1.1 built into the motherboard doesn't
> >> >> mean
> > that
> >> >> will prevent you from adding a USB 2.0 card - I have both on my
> > machine.
> >> >All
> >> >> you need is a spare PCI slot to plug the card into (and the
> >> >> know-how of
> >> >how
> >> >> to do that - or a computer shop that's willing to fit the card
> >> >> they
> > sell
> >> >> you).
> >> >
> >> >Yes, but his problem is that like a lot of  dell boxes his doesn't
> >> >have
> > AGP
> >> >or PCI slots.
> >> >
> >>
> >> He wouldn't need an ADP slot to install a USB card, and I haven't
> >> seen a
> >> DELL box in my life without PCI slots.
> >>
> >> There could be only a couple and it could be they're already taken,
> >> but
> >> if so, and if the project is important there may be other
> >> alternatives
> >> (like switching to USB versions of whatever components need to be
> >> removed and connecting them to the USB card)
> >>
> >> Where there is a will, there is often a way.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat.
> >
> >
>
Author
21 Mar 2005 7:42 PM
John.N.
Below is Dell's response to my problem!


'With reference to the issue as you have mentioned your system
currently has USB 1.1 and it is not possible to upgrade to USB
2 as the USB controller is integrated to the chipset of the motherboard.
It is not possible to upgrade the version of the USB in your
system either by means of drivers or BIOS updates.'

"John.N."


<jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Mine's a DELL 8100;Could it be the USB Card?
>
> John
>
> "Pen" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:TMydnUOuS_-_EqDfRVn-rw@adelphia.com...
> > That sounds bogus. Over in the Dell groups
> > lots of people, including me, have installed USB
> > cards along side onboard USB. That said, I did
> > have to move the card around to a different slot
> > for windows to detect it properly. Some sort of
> > IRQ issue I think. Mine's a Dell 4100.
> >
> > "John.N." <jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:e46dnYOLJeHJ6qDfRVnygg@eclipse.net.uk...
> > > I've tried fitting a USB2.0 Card into a spare PCI slot but it crashes
> > > my
> > > system.With this info I contacted Dell who state that because of the
> > > onboard
> > > USB setup I cannot fit a USB2.0  alongside the existing USB1.1.- it
> > > looks
> > > to me as though I need a new motherboard!
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > "DevilsPGD" <ihatespam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
> > > news:qvtp31l6ks5ihmblaetjrntcvoa6v7akdl@beta.readfreenews.net...
> > >> In message <uLqdnU9K2KX-LqHfRVn***@adelphia.com> "George"
> > >> <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >"Paul Murphy" <p_murphynothanks@tospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >> >news:423c0aaf$0$57191$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
> > >> >> "John.N." <jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:W8idnTqAsLrllqXfRVnyjw@eclipse.net.uk...
> > >> >> > NG,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I want to upgrade my USB1.1 to USB2.0,     but my existing is
> > > 'onboard'
> > >> >my
> > >> >> > Dell M/C and does not allow me to add a new USB card. Is there a
> > >> >> > an
> > >> >> > adapter
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Just because you have USB 1.1 built into the motherboard doesn't
> > >> >> mean
> > > that
> > >> >> will prevent you from adding a USB 2.0 card - I have both on my
> > > machine.
> > >> >All
> > >> >> you need is a spare PCI slot to plug the card into (and the
> > >> >> know-how of
> > >> >how
> > >> >> to do that - or a computer shop that's willing to fit the card
> > >> >> they
> > > sell
> > >> >> you).
> > >> >
> > >> >Yes, but his problem is that like a lot of  dell boxes his doesn't
> > >> >have
> > > AGP
> > >> >or PCI slots.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> He wouldn't need an ADP slot to install a USB card, and I haven't
> > >> seen a
> > >> DELL box in my life without PCI slots.
> > >>
> > >> There could be only a couple and it could be they're already taken,
> > >> but
> > >> if so, and if the project is important there may be other
> > >> alternatives
> > >> (like switching to USB versions of whatever components need to be
> > >> removed and connecting them to the USB card)
> > >>
> > >> Where there is a will, there is often a way.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
Author
21 Mar 2005 8:19 PM
Pen
As I mentioned before, remove the card and try in a different
PCI slot. Dell's reply is limited to their hardware only,
it doesn't say you can't install a PCI card.

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"John.N." <jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
news:X66dnbJA5fDhvqLfRVnyrA@eclipse.net.uk...
> Below is Dell's response to my problem!
>
>
> 'With reference to the issue as you have mentioned your system
> currently has USB 1.1 and it is not possible to upgrade to USB
> 2 as the USB controller is integrated to the chipset of the
> motherboard.
> It is not possible to upgrade the version of the USB in your
> system either by means of drivers or BIOS updates.'
>
> "John.N."
>
>
> <jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:RbKdnRMew8AfvKLfRVnyrA@eclipse.net.uk...
>> Mine's a DELL 8100;Could it be the USB Card?
>>
>> John
>>
>> "Pen" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:TMydnUOuS_-_EqDfRVn-rw@adelphia.com...
>> > That sounds bogus. Over in the Dell groups
>> > lots of people, including me, have installed USB
>> > cards along side onboard USB. That said, I did
>> > have to move the card around to a different slot
>> > for windows to detect it properly. Some sort of
>> > IRQ issue I think. Mine's a Dell 4100.
>> >
>> > "John.N." <jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
>> > news:e46dnYOLJeHJ6qDfRVnygg@eclipse.net.uk...
>> > > I've tried fitting a USB2.0 Card into a spare PCI slot but it
>> > > crashes
>> > > my
>> > > system.With this info I contacted Dell who state that because of
>> > > the
>> > > onboard
>> > > USB setup I cannot fit a USB2.0  alongside the existing USB1.1.-
>> > > it
>> > > looks
>> > > to me as though I need a new motherboard!
>> > >
>> > > John
>> > >
>> > > "DevilsPGD" <ihatespam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
>> > > news:qvtp31l6ks5ihmblaetjrntcvoa6v7akdl@beta.readfreenews.net...
>> > >> In message <uLqdnU9K2KX-LqHfRVn***@adelphia.com> "George"
>> > >> <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >"Paul Murphy" <p_murphynothanks@tospamhotmail.com> wrote in
>> > >> >message
>> > >> >news:423c0aaf$0$57191$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
>> > >> >> "John.N." <jm***@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
>> > >> >> news:W8idnTqAsLrllqXfRVnyjw@eclipse.net.uk...
>> > >> >> > NG,
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > I want to upgrade my USB1.1 to USB2.0,     but my existing
>> > >> >> > is
>> > > 'onboard'
>> > >> >my
>> > >> >> > Dell M/C and does not allow me to add a new USB card. Is
>> > >> >> > there a
>> > >> >> > an
>> > >> >> > adapter
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Just because you have USB 1.1 built into the motherboard
>> > >> >> doesn't
>> > >> >> mean
>> > > that
>> > >> >> will prevent you from adding a USB 2.0 card - I have both on
>> > >> >> my
>> > > machine.
>> > >> >All
>> > >> >> you need is a spare PCI slot to plug the card into (and the
>> > >> >> know-how of
>> > >> >how
>> > >> >> to do that - or a computer shop that's willing to fit the
>> > >> >> card
>> > >> >> they
>> > > sell
>> > >> >> you).
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Yes, but his problem is that like a lot of  dell boxes his
>> > >> >doesn't
>> > >> >have
>> > > AGP
>> > >> >or PCI slots.
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >> He wouldn't need an ADP slot to install a USB card, and I
>> > >> haven't
>> > >> seen a
>> > >> DELL box in my life without PCI slots.
>> > >>
>> > >> There could be only a couple and it could be they're already
>> > >> taken,
>> > >> but
>> > >> if so, and if the project is important there may be other
>> > >> alternatives
>> > >> (like switching to USB versions of whatever components need to
>> > >> be
>> > >> removed and connecting them to the USB card)
>> > >>
>> > >> Where there is a will, there is often a way.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>