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DVI - any real difference?
I have an ATI 9600 Pro graphics card in my PC which has 15 pin D-sub and DVI outputs. How important is it to buy a display with DVI input? Does it make any real differerence? Cheers. Bobby On a 19 inch screen, you will see a slight difference in the sharpness. I
have 2 of 17 inch DVI monitors here in the office. The older machine's ATI display card is too old to have DVI. The newer one has it. I can see the difference in the newer one if I look very close at the details. Since the bandwidth of the display data is very wide, there is slightly less loss with the DVI when run through the VGA cable. Since you paid a little extra for your display card to have DVI, you should use it. When connect the new LCD monitor, and the computer is started up, simple press the Auto Setup button on the monitor. This will set up the monitors data timing to match the display card. You will be extremely impressed at the results. -- Jerry G. ====== "Bobby" <bo***@europe.com> wrote in message I am about to purchase a TFT monitor to replace my 19" CRT.news:38uk4cF5s2g4rU1@individual.net... I have an ATI 9600 Pro graphics card in my PC which has 15 pin D-sub and DVI outputs. How important is it to buy a display with DVI input? Does it make any real differerence? Cheers. Bobby Jerry G. wrote:
> On a 19 inch screen, you will ^H^H^H^H may> see a slight difference in the sharpness. I Not a valid comparison--try it on the analog and digital outputs of the> have 2 of 17 inch DVI monitors here in the office. The older machine's ATI > display card is too old to have DVI. The newer one has it. I can see the > difference in the newer one if I look very close at the details. Since the > bandwidth of the display data is very wide, there is slightly less loss > with the DVI when run through the VGA cable. _same_ board and see if you can see the difference. Show quoteHide quote > Since you paid a little extra for your display card to have DVI, you > should use it. When connect the new LCD monitor, and the computer is > started up, simple press the Auto Setup button on the monitor. This will > set up the monitors data timing to match the display card. You will be > extremely impressed at the results. > -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) From a Cnet review
DVI support is found primarily on LCDs. However, the advantage of digital signals for LCDs is of somewhat less importance now than it was a few years ago. Analog signal processing has improved to the point where major differences in image quality can be difficult to detect. Unless you're a pro photographer, a prepress professional, or someone else who needs superprecise, top-notch image quality, you should be fine using a CRT or an LCD on an analog signal. -- ASUS A8V/Athlon 64 FX-55 ATI RADEON X800XT PE 1GB OCZ Gold Edition Rev3 DDR PC-3700 On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 20:46:03 -0000, "Bobby" <bo***@europe.com> wrote: Samsung say the difference is minor but that you should notice>I am about to purchase a TFT monitor to replace my 19" CRT. > >I have an ATI 9600 Pro graphics card in my PC which has 15 pin D-sub and DVI >outputs. > >How important is it to buy a display with DVI input? Does it make any real >differerence? > >Cheers. > >Bobby > slightly sharper text. So overall it gives a slightly sharper image but it is a minor difference. In message <38uk4cF5s2g4***@individual.net> "Bobby" <bo***@europe.com> If you're planning on buying a LCD (flat panel) monitor, definitely gowrote: >I am about to purchase a TFT monitor to replace my 19" CRT. > >I have an ATI 9600 Pro graphics card in my PC which has 15 pin D-sub and DVI >outputs. > >How important is it to buy a display with DVI input? Does it make any real >differerence? DVI. If you're sticking with CRT it doesn't make a huge difference. Either way it's not the end of the world, you can get a pretty decent picture on any modern LCD from an analog signal, but it's noticeably better using DVI-D on my Dell 2005FPW (20.1" widescreen LCD) -- Failure is not an option. It's bundled with your software. Yes, it does.
There are a number of issues, but from what I've seen, #1 is that most analog cables -- even those that come with the monitor -- are not impedance matched and introduce ringing ("ghosts") around sharp transitions. It's most noticeable on small text, it's not noticeable at all (unless its really bad) on TV or movies or games. It's very subtle, many people won't notice it, but I'm in the display industry and I see it quite often. The #2 problem is time base accuracy and stability -- the analog monitor doesn't sample the pixel at exacty the moment that the video card "sends" it. [This used to be the #1 problem, but beweeen monitors getting bettter and increased display resolution (more 1280x1024 vs. 1024x768), I'd say it's now #2]. You can diagnose this very quickly (and often adjust to eliminate it) by putting up a test pattern of alternating black and white vertical bars one single pixel wide; you should see a perfect reproduction, with zero moire present. The key is perfect adjustment of the dot clock frequency and phase. Note, however, that on the majority of monitors, the "Auto" function doesn't produce an exactly correct adjustment. Close, in many cases, but not exact. DVI simply eliminates the issues that cause both forms of distortion. With an analog monitor, maybe it's ok, maybe it's not (and it's usually not without test pattern adjustment). With DVI, assuming that the display works, there is no distortion from either cable issues or dot clock matching to the video card. In those regards, it's perfect. Bobby wrote: Show quoteHide quote > I am about to purchase a TFT monitor to replace my 19" CRT. > > I have an ATI 9600 Pro graphics card in my PC which has 15 pin D-sub and DVI > outputs. > > How important is it to buy a display with DVI input? Does it make any real > differerence? > > Cheers. > > Bobby > > The DVI output of the video card gives a pure digital signal that is much
sharper and cleaner than the analog signal from the VGA output. Yes, get an LCD monitor with a DVI connection. -- Show quoteHide quoteDaveW "Bobby" <bo***@europe.com> wrote in message news:38uk4cF5s2g4rU1@individual.net... >I am about to purchase a TFT monitor to replace my 19" CRT. > > I have an ATI 9600 Pro graphics card in my PC which has 15 pin D-sub and > DVI outputs. > > How important is it to buy a display with DVI input? Does it make any real > differerence? > > Cheers. > > Bobby > On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 20:46:03 -0000, "Bobby" <bo***@europe.com> wrote: I have a noticable difference on my NEC MultiSync LCD 1860NX using a>How important is it to buy a display with DVI input? Does it make any real >differerence? Radeon 9600XT card. I have both analog and DVI inputs. It took me a while to find a DVI cable, but when I switched it was a remarkably improved picture quality.
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news:38uk4cF5s2g4rU1@individual.net... >I am about to purchase a TFT monitor to replace my 19" CRT. > > I have an ATI 9600 Pro graphics card in my PC which has 15 pin D-sub and > DVI outputs. > > How important is it to buy a display with DVI input? Does it make any real > differerence? > > Cheers. > > Bobby >How about on a CRT. I have a NEC 1350X 22' monitor. It has both analog and >digital inputs. Video card is ATI 9800 pro. When interfacing to a CRT, you don't have the "dot clock" issue, so to
that extent there is no benefit to DVI. However, you still have the issue with analog signal integrity on the cable (noise, ringing, impeadance mismatching, ghosting). If this isn't an issue, then there is unlikely to be any difference, but if it is an issue, then DVI will still be superior. Jeff McNulty wrote: Show quoteHide quote > "Bobby" <bo***@europe.com> wrote in message > news:38uk4cF5s2g4rU1@individual.net... > >>I am about to purchase a TFT monitor to replace my 19" CRT. >> >>I have an ATI 9600 Pro graphics card in my PC which has 15 pin D-sub and >>DVI outputs. >> >>How important is it to buy a display with DVI input? Does it make any real >>differerence? >> >>Cheers. >> >>Bobby >>How about on a CRT. I have a NEC 1350X 22' monitor. It has both analog and >>digital inputs. Video card is ATI 9800 pro. > > > Barry Watzman wrote:
> When interfacing to a CRT, you don't have the "dot clock" issue, so to If, and ONLY if the D/A converter in the CRT provides signal quality greater> that extent there is no benefit to DVI. However, you still have the > issue with analog signal integrity on the cable (noise, ringing, > impeadance mismatching, ghosting). If this isn't an issue, then there > is unlikely to be any difference, but if it is an issue, then DVI will > still be superior. than that of the video board+cable. That has not usually been the case--the D/A converters used in CRTs were for the most part pretty dismal. Show quoteHide quote > Jeff McNulty wrote: > >> "Bobby" <bo***@europe.com> wrote in message >> news:38uk4cF5s2g4rU1@individual.net... >> >>>I am about to purchase a TFT monitor to replace my 19" CRT. >>> >>>I have an ATI 9600 Pro graphics card in my PC which has 15 pin D-sub and >>>DVI outputs. >>> >>>How important is it to buy a display with DVI input? Does it make any >>>real differerence? >>> >>>Cheers. >>> >>>Bobby >>>How about on a CRT. I have a NEC 1350X 22' monitor. It has both analog >>>and digital inputs. Video card is ATI 9800 pro. >> >> >> -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) Re: "If, and ONLY if the D/A converter in the CRT provides signal
quality greater than that of the video board+cable." The D/A converter will never be worse than the video board+cable. For all practical purposes, the D/A converter can be considered to be "perfect". J. Clarke wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Barry Watzman wrote: > > >>When interfacing to a CRT, you don't have the "dot clock" issue, so to >>that extent there is no benefit to DVI. However, you still have the >>issue with analog signal integrity on the cable (noise, ringing, >>impeadance mismatching, ghosting). If this isn't an issue, then there >>is unlikely to be any difference, but if it is an issue, then DVI will >>still be superior. > > > If, and ONLY if the D/A converter in the CRT provides signal quality greater > than that of the video board+cable. That has not usually been the > case--the D/A converters used in CRTs were for the most part pretty dismal. > > >>Jeff McNulty wrote: >> >> >>>"Bobby" <bo***@europe.com> wrote in message >>>news:38uk4cF5s2g4rU1@individual.net... >>> >>> >>>>I am about to purchase a TFT monitor to replace my 19" CRT. >>>> >>>>I have an ATI 9600 Pro graphics card in my PC which has 15 pin D-sub and >>>>DVI outputs. >>>> >>>>How important is it to buy a display with DVI input? Does it make any >>>>real differerence? >>>> >>>>Cheers. >>>> >>>>Bobby >>>>How about on a CRT. I have a NEC 1350X 22' monitor. It has both analog >>>>and digital inputs. Video card is ATI 9800 pro. >>> >>> >>> >
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