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SATA problem
It's a Maxtor 250Gb, SATA drive. Model 6B25OSO. I currently have a Maxtor 120Gb, PATA drive (as my master boot drive) along with three other IDE drives (two CD/DVD and an LS120 drive). My system does not appear to recognise my new drive. My mobo is an Asus K8V SE model which has PATA, SATA and SATA RAID support. I have connected my new drive to the SATA 1 connection. The drive is receiving power since it is warm and I felt the rotation of the drive. However, my BIOS is not reporting the drive - only the existing PATA drive and the three other IDE devices. I've checked the SATA cable connections. They look fine - and they're keyed so I guess they're OK. I had disabled the "OnChip SATA BOOTROM" in the BIOS and once I had enabled this I (briefly) saw something about my new HD flash on the screen during one of the boot screens (I think my model number appeared). But I can't stop these damn screens to confirm this (who designs these things?). Since the BIOS doesn't appear to recognise my new drive, Windows doesn't either and I can't install it. Does anyone have any idea what I can do? Cheers. Bobby Bobby wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > I am trying to install a new SATA hard drive into my system. I have only installed a sta drive on one Asus board and if I remember > > It's a Maxtor 250Gb, SATA drive. Model 6B25OSO. > > I currently have a Maxtor 120Gb, PATA drive (as my master boot drive) along > with three other IDE drives (two CD/DVD and an LS120 drive). > > My system does not appear to recognise my new drive. > > My mobo is an Asus K8V SE model which has PATA, SATA and SATA RAID support. > I have connected my new drive to the SATA 1 connection. > > The drive is receiving power since it is warm and I felt the rotation of the > drive. > > However, my BIOS is not reporting the drive - only the existing PATA drive > and the three other IDE devices. > > I've checked the SATA cable connections. They look fine - and they're keyed > so I guess they're OK. > > I had disabled the "OnChip SATA BOOTROM" in the BIOS and once I had enabled > this I (briefly) saw something about my new HD flash on the screen during > one of the boot screens (I think my model number appeared). But I can't stop > these damn screens to confirm this (who designs these things?). > > Since the BIOS doesn't appear to recognise my new drive, Windows doesn't > either and I can't install it. > > Does anyone have any idea what I can do? corectly, you have to go in to the SATa config in the SATA bios and make a raid, even if you only got the one drive. Mind you the computer was using the SATA drive as the main drive. Do windows reconise the drive is there? > I have only installed a sta drive on one Asus board and if I remember Windows does not recognise the SATA drive at all.> corectly, you have to go in to the SATa config in the SATA bios and make a > raid, even if you only got the one drive. > Mind you the computer was using the SATA drive as the main drive. > Do windows reconise the drive is there? The new drive does appear (briefly) during the boot sequence so it must be powered and (probably) cabled OK. I tried enabling everything (SATA-related) in the BIOS but still no joy. BTW I have tried Maxtor customer support. Waste of time. It is impossible to get an e-mail address or telephone number and the information is completely out of date (no mention of SATA at all). I downloaded a utility to provide customised advice about installation but it doesn't list my device either. Bobby I'm not familiar with that board,but try plugging the HD into SATA slot 3
which is connected to a different controller and see if it is recognized. I had a similar problem on a different board,which was a bad controller on one of the two SATA controllers Show quoteHide quote "Bobby" <bo***@europe.com> wrote in message news:38dohvF5kgfh0U1@individual.net... >I am trying to install a new SATA hard drive into my system. > > It's a Maxtor 250Gb, SATA drive. Model 6B25OSO. > > I currently have a Maxtor 120Gb, PATA drive (as my master boot drive) > along with three other IDE drives (two CD/DVD and an LS120 drive). > > My system does not appear to recognise my new drive. > > My mobo is an Asus K8V SE model which has PATA, SATA and SATA RAID > support. I have connected my new drive to the SATA 1 connection. > > The drive is receiving power since it is warm and I felt the rotation of > the drive. > > However, my BIOS is not reporting the drive - only the existing PATA drive > and the three other IDE devices. > > I've checked the SATA cable connections. They look fine - and they're > keyed so I guess they're OK. > > I had disabled the "OnChip SATA BOOTROM" in the BIOS and once I had > enabled this I (briefly) saw something about my new HD flash on the screen > during one of the boot screens (I think my model number appeared). But I > can't stop these damn screens to confirm this (who designs these things?). > > Since the BIOS doesn't appear to recognise my new drive, Windows doesn't > either and I can't install it. > > Does anyone have any idea what I can do? > > Cheers. > > Bobby > For starts, the ability to "see" a SATA hard drive is a function of the BIOS
and SATA controller on the motherboard, not a function of the hard drive itself (assuming that the hard drive is not mechanically defective.) So, rather than looking for solutions from Maxtox, look at your motherboard's manual, or user support for the motherboard. But, in general several things need to happen before the drive will appear in Windows: 1a. If the SATA controller is also a RAID controller, you need ot "build" a RAID "array". On my ASUS P4S8X motherboard, this option appears midway through the BIOS checks. I says something like "Press CTRL-F to enter FastBuild (tm) Utility". This utility sets up the RAID array(s) for the Promise FastTrack controller, whihc is the RAID/SATA controller. 1b. Since you already have some disks, and operating system, etc installed, be very careful >>NOT<< to make a mirror or a striped array involving any of those existing disks! If you make arrays using the old disks, it will be like formating them, and you will lose all data. 1c. Instead, use the advanced or custom options to define an "array" containing only the one SATA disk. 2. Once the RAID array has been created, the SATA disk should appear in the BIOS checks. For example, mine appears just after a couple of lines stating the BIOS version of the RAID controller (distinct from the main BIOS version itself, whihc is stated much earlier in the POST sequence). On my PC it looks like: ID Mode Size Tracking-Map Status 1 1+0 stripe 120034M 14593/255/63 Functional 3. At this point the PC (BIOS) knows about the disk, but windows does not. You now need to partition and format the disk. This can be done either from the disk management console within XP, or with the MaxBlast utilities that should ahve come with the disk, or which you can download from Maxtor. If you choose to use XP to partiton, the trick is to "initialize" the disk, meaning create partitions, before you try to format it. 4. Either way, once you have partitions, they should be shown in XP's disk management console. If they have a format (like NTFS or FAT32) that should appear. If they have no format yet, they will be called "RAW". 5. However, the disk may still not appear in windows explorer. If that is the problem, use the disk management console to assign a drive letter to each new partition you have created. Reboot, and then explorer should see the partition(s). Show quoteHide quote "Bobby" <bo***@europe.com> wrote in message news:38dohvF5kgfh0U1@individual.net... >I am trying to install a new SATA hard drive into my system. > > It's a Maxtor 250Gb, SATA drive. Model 6B25OSO. > > I currently have a Maxtor 120Gb, PATA drive (as my master boot drive) > along with three other IDE drives (two CD/DVD and an LS120 drive). > > My system does not appear to recognise my new drive. > > My mobo is an Asus K8V SE model which has PATA, SATA and SATA RAID > support. I have connected my new drive to the SATA 1 connection. > > The drive is receiving power since it is warm and I felt the rotation of > the drive. > > However, my BIOS is not reporting the drive - only the existing PATA drive > and the three other IDE devices. > > I've checked the SATA cable connections. They look fine - and they're > keyed so I guess they're OK. > > I had disabled the "OnChip SATA BOOTROM" in the BIOS and once I had > enabled this I (briefly) saw something about my new HD flash on the screen > during one of the boot screens (I think my model number appeared). But I > can't stop these damn screens to confirm this (who designs these things?). > > Since the BIOS doesn't appear to recognise my new drive, Windows doesn't > either and I can't install it. > > Does anyone have any idea what I can do? > > Cheers. > > Bobby >
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"Bob Harris" <rharris270[SPAM]@hotmail.com> wrote in message [attached file: clip_image002.gif]news:u8ZYZqNHFHA.576@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > For starts, the ability to "see" a SATA hard drive is a function of the > BIOS > and SATA controller on the motherboard, not a function of the hard drive > itself (assuming that the hard drive is not mechanically defective.) So, > rather than looking for solutions from Maxtox, look at your motherboard's > manual, or user support for the motherboard. > > But, in general several things need to happen before the drive will appear > in Windows: > > 1a. If the SATA controller is also a RAID controller, you need ot "build" > a > RAID "array". On my ASUS P4S8X motherboard, this option appears midway > through the BIOS checks. I says something like "Press CTRL-F to enter > FastBuild (tm) Utility". This utility sets up the RAID array(s) for the > Promise FastTrack controller, whihc is the RAID/SATA controller. > > 1b. Since you already have some disks, and operating system, etc > installed, > be very careful >>NOT<< to make a mirror or a striped array involving any > of > those existing disks! If you make arrays using the old disks, it will be > like formating them, and you will lose all data. > > 1c. Instead, use the advanced or custom options to define an "array" > containing only the one SATA disk. > > 2. Once the RAID array has been created, the SATA disk should appear in > the > BIOS checks. For example, mine appears just after a couple of lines > stating > the BIOS version of the RAID controller (distinct from the main BIOS > version > itself, whihc is stated much earlier in the POST sequence). On my PC it > looks like: > > ID Mode Size Tracking-Map Status > 1 1+0 stripe 120034M 14593/255/63 Functional > > 3. At this point the PC (BIOS) knows about the disk, but windows does > not. > You now need to partition and format the disk. This can be done either > from > the disk management console within XP, or with the MaxBlast utilities that > should ahve come with the disk, or which you can download from Maxtor. If > you choose to use XP to partiton, the trick is to "initialize" the disk, > meaning create partitions, before you try to format it. > > 4. Either way, once you have partitions, they should be shown in XP's > disk > management console. If they have a format (like NTFS or FAT32) that > should > appear. If they have no format yet, they will be called "RAW". > > 5. However, the disk may still not appear in windows explorer. If that > is > the problem, use the disk management console to assign a drive letter to > each new partition you have created. Reboot, and then explorer should see > the partition(s). > > > "Bobby" <bo***@europe.com> wrote in message > news:38dohvF5kgfh0U1@individual.net... >>I am trying to install a new SATA hard drive into my system. >> >> It's a Maxtor 250Gb, SATA drive. Model 6B25OSO. >> >> I currently have a Maxtor 120Gb, PATA drive (as my master boot drive) >> along with three other IDE drives (two CD/DVD and an LS120 drive). >> >> My system does not appear to recognise my new drive. >> >> My mobo is an Asus K8V SE model which has PATA, SATA and SATA RAID >> support. I have connected my new drive to the SATA 1 connection. >> >> The drive is receiving power since it is warm and I felt the rotation of >> the drive. >> >> However, my BIOS is not reporting the drive - only the existing PATA >> drive >> and the three other IDE devices. >> >> I've checked the SATA cable connections. They look fine - and they're >> keyed so I guess they're OK. >> >> I had disabled the "OnChip SATA BOOTROM" in the BIOS and once I had >> enabled this I (briefly) saw something about my new HD flash on the >> screen >> during one of the boot screens (I think my model number appeared). But I >> can't stop these damn screens to confirm this (who designs these >> things?). >> >> Since the BIOS doesn't appear to recognise my new drive, Windows doesn't >> either and I can't install it. >> >> Does anyone have any idea what I can do? >> >> Cheers. >> >> Bobby >> > > What SATA controller do you have? If Promise, you need to initialize the SATA
array in the SATA BIOS even if you are not using RAID. My PDC 20378 controller requires a single HD be set up as a RAID 0 "stripe" with 1 HD. After that, load the RAID drivers in XP, then partition and format the HD in Disk Manager. Show quoteHide quote "Bobby" <bo***@europe.com> wrote... > > My system does not appear to recognise my new drive. > > My mobo is an Asus K8V SE model which has PATA, SATA and SATA RAID support. I > have connected my new drive to the SATA 1 connection. > > The drive is receiving power since it is warm and I felt the rotation of the > drive. > > However, my BIOS is not reporting the drive - only the existing PATA drive and > the three other IDE devices. > What SATA controller do you have? I have two sets of SATA interfaces on my mobo. Two standard ones (SATA0 and SATA1) and two RAID controllers (PRI_SATA and SEC_SATA). I have connected my (new) SATA drive to SATA0. > If Promise, you need to initialize the SATA array in the SATA BIOS even if How do you do this?> you are not using RAID. My PDC 20378 controller requires a single HD be > set up as a RAID 0 "stripe" with 1 HD. > After that, load the RAID drivers in XP, then partition and format the HD I loaded every driver from the mobo CD (including the Promise one and the > in Disk Manager. RAID one). Control Panel now reports four SCSI/RAID controllers: (all working) D347PRT SCSI Via Serial ATA RAID WinXP Promise FastTrak 378 WinXP Promise RAID Console SCSI Console Device. My new HD was then recognised. But it took a long time to boot and I got the BSD a couple of times so I've reverted to my old (PATA) drive for the time being. Help! Bobby wrote:
> My new HD was then recognised. But it took a long time to boot and I I eventually got mine working on the AV8 Asus Deluxe. Maybe what I did will > got the BSD a couple of times so I've reverted to my old (PATA) drive > for the time being. > > Help! Hi Bobby give you some clues Make sure in the BIOS you enable IDE operation (not RAID) You will not see your SATA drive in the BIOS boot screen, just your Maxtor drive in the initial set up screen of BIOS You need to copy the SATA drivers (not the Promise drivers) from the cd (there are 2 types) to a floppy I was trying to install Promise drivers (for RAID) not the SAT AVI drivers before and that's why XP wouldn't install them Select F6 and then S Once I could install the SATA AVI drivers from the floppy XP Pro installed like a babe HTH Regards Sheri Thanks, I'll try this.
Do you think that a flash upgrade to my BIOS might resolve this? I'm still running the original BIOS firmware. Bobby Show quoteHide quote "BitzchicK" <sheri.kurow***@yourtoothblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:OqcK9OQHFHA.580@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > Bobby wrote: > >> My new HD was then recognised. But it took a long time to boot and I >> got the BSD a couple of times so I've reverted to my old (PATA) drive >> for the time being. >> >> Help! > Hi Bobby > I eventually got mine working on the AV8 Asus Deluxe. Maybe what I did > will give you some clues > Make sure in the BIOS you enable IDE operation (not RAID) > You will not see your SATA drive in the BIOS boot screen, just your Maxtor > drive in the initial set up screen of BIOS > > You need to copy the SATA drivers (not the Promise drivers) from the cd > (there are 2 types) to a floppy > I was trying to install Promise drivers (for RAID) not the SAT AVI drivers > before and that's why XP wouldn't install them > Select F6 and then S > > Once I could install the SATA AVI drivers from the floppy XP Pro installed > like a babe > > HTH > Regards > Sheri > > Bobby wrote:
> Thanks, I'll try this. Try my way first. :o)> > Do you think that a flash upgrade to my BIOS might resolve this? I'm > still running the original BIOS firmware. Try my way first :o) Then if all else fails go for the BIOS update Regards Sheri -- Life may not be the party we hoped for but whilst we are here we might as well dance "Bobby" <bo***@europe.com> wrote... Ctrl-F during boot as the RAID controller BIOS screen comes up.> >> If Promise, you need to initialize the SATA array in the SATA BIOS even if >> you are not using RAID. My PDC 20378 controller requires a single HD be set >> up as a RAID 0 "stripe" with 1 HD. > > How do you do this? |
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