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Hard Drive Orientation
200G harddrive in it. When placed in its stand the case puts the harddrive on its side which got me to wondering, is there a preferred orientation for harddrives wrt to longevity or does it not matter? Thanks Newfdog Newfdog wrote:
> Hi all.. I just purchased an external harddrive case and installed a http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/op/packOrientation-c.html> 200G harddrive in it. When placed in its stand the case puts the > harddrive on its side which got me to wondering, is there a preferred > orientation for harddrives wrt to longevity or does it not matter? > > Thanks > Newfdog Newfdog wrote:
> Hi all.. I just purchased an external harddrive case and installed a It does not matter.> 200G harddrive in it. When placed in its stand the case puts the > harddrive on its side which got me to wondering, is there a preferred > orientation for harddrives wrt to longevity or does it not matter? -- Burning_Ranger To email: a***@aziz1removethisbit.fsnet.co.uk "Newfdog" <newfdog2nospam@warp.nfld.net> wrote in message It doesn't matter. You can even run them upside down.news:YFGSd.6753$oh4.271156@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > Hi all.. I just purchased an external harddrive case and installed a > 200G harddrive in it. When placed in its stand the case puts the > harddrive on its side which got me to wondering, is there a preferred > orientation for harddrives wrt to longevity or does it not matter? > > Thanks > Newfdog -- Bearman If it's got tits, tires, tubes, or transistors, it's trouble. "Newfdog" wrote: About 1 1/2 years ago, I called the Tech Support at Maxtor,> Hi all.. I just purchased an external harddrive case and installed a > 200G harddrive in it. When placed in its stand the case puts the > harddrive on its side which got me to wondering, is there a preferred > orientation for harddrives wrt to longevity or does it not matter? Western Digital, and Seagate. They all said that the orientation didn't matter, but one (I don't recall which) said that the HD should be "not at a slant". Whether "not at a slant" is just superstition (e.g. a HD that failed happened to be at a slant) or a real problem probably can't be known, but it's easy to avoid. *TimDaniels* On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:28:41 -0800, "Timothy Daniels"
<TDaniels@NoSpamDot.com> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >"Newfdog" wrote: I don't recall which one, but one manufacturer has>> Hi all.. I just purchased an external harddrive case and installed a >> 200G harddrive in it. When placed in its stand the case puts the >> harddrive on its side which got me to wondering, is there a preferred >> orientation for harddrives wrt to longevity or does it not matter? > > > About 1 1/2 years ago, I called the Tech Support at Maxtor, > Western Digital, and Seagate. They all said that the orientation > didn't matter, but one (I don't recall which) said that the HD > should be "not at a slant". Whether "not at a slant" is just > superstition (e.g. a HD that failed happened to be at a slant) > or a real problem probably can't be known, but it's easy to avoid. > >*TimDaniels* definitely specified not to put them at a slant... a certain # of degrees off horizontal was their terminology I believe. Might've been Western Digital or Maxtor, I just can't remember which one (or some other). On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:43:20 GMT, Newfdog
<newfdog2nospam@warp.nfld.net> wrote: >Hi all.. I just purchased an external harddrive case and installed a In theory it doesn't matter. In practice I've noticed>200G harddrive in it. When placed in its stand the case puts the >harddrive on its side which got me to wondering, is there a preferred >orientation for harddrives wrt to longevity or does it not matter? > >Thanks >Newfdog drives mounted vertically seemed to get much louder over time, though this was after 2-3 years operation of the WD ball-bearing based drives (comparing about 9 of them installed near-simultaneous in different systems). This may not be true with fluid-bearing and is only a suggestion that if it doesn't matter either way, I'd be inclined to choose horizontal mounting if/when chassis supports it. Newfdog wrote:
> I just purchased an external harddrive case and installed a When there's no fan cooling of the drive, vertical orientation is> 200G harddrive in it. When placed in its stand the case > puts the harddrive on its side which got me to wondering, > is there a preferred orientation for harddrives wrt to > longevity or does it not matter? preferred because it keeps the drive mechanics slightly cooler and some of the electronics as much as 20C cooler. For at least the past 5-10 years, drive manufacturers have allowed any orientation, but some used to require an almost perfectly vertical or perfectly horizontal orientation, and Seagate once prohibited standing their drives vertically with the front at the bottom, probably because this created balance problems with the head arm assembly. Regarding the bearings, the following, written years ago by Randy Van De Loo, a mechanical engineer who owned a drive rebuilding business, says orientation is irrelevant to them: --------------------------------------------------------- "The bearing assemblys in the actuators as well as the spindles are *ALL* pre-loaded "ball" bearings which are of the exact same specification in size and pre-load top and bottom. This even includes the Maxtor FH drives which use "4" spindle bearings. A ball bearing has no particular recommended orientation as far as radial-load/thrust is concerned. It is not a heavy duty "thrust" type bearing, but is designed to take thrust loads as high as half of it's perpendicular or radial load. The type of bearings used in hard drives are generic low noise ABEC 2 - 5 sealed ball bearings. The ones we use in rebuilding use a special lubricant which is conductive to allow the dissipation of static in the event the static discharge tab is removed or somehow disabled. Think about it this way. Ball Bearings are designed to take at least twice the radial load as thrust load. Since this is a given, follow me with this one, if the drive is mounted with the platters parallel to the plane of the earth, gravity would place the majority of the load on the bearings in a THRUST orientation rather than RADIAL which is actually going to cause MORE WEAR than mounting the drive on it's side. Now, if you've followed me so far through the other conversations we've had on the subject, you remember that I told you that the bearings are held with a constant "pre-load" tension (usually with bellview washers - conical spring washers), which further changes some of this thrust load to radial load. This effectively makes the bearing capable of doing more work in any position because of the distribution of the load. As far as your friends drive is concerned: If the mounting orientation is at fault, then the bearings must have been defective to begin with (it's been know to happen). Think about it this way. Ball Bearings are designed to take at least twice the radial load as thrust load. Since this is a given, follow me with this one, if the drive is mounted with the platters parallel to the plane of the earth, gravity would place the majority of the load on the bearings in a THRUST orientation rather than RADIAL which is actually going to cause more wear than mounting the drive on it's side. Now, if you've followed me so far through the other conversations we've had on the subject, you remember that I told you that the bearings are held with a constant "pre-load" tension (usually with bellview washers - conical spring washers), which further changes some of this thrust load to radial load. This effectively makes the bearing capable of doing more work in any position because of the distribution of the load." Newfdog wrote:
> Hi all.. I just purchased an external harddrive case and installed a Newfdog> 200G harddrive in it. When placed in its stand the case puts the > harddrive on its side which got me to wondering, is there a preferred > orientation for harddrives wrt to longevity or does it not matter? > > Thanks > Newfdog Thanks guys... |
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