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Author
20 Feb 2005 7:28 PM
Geezer
Theres a lot of very seductive ads in the uk press at the moment for
onspeed. Does anyone use it or have any evidence that it works?

Author
20 Feb 2005 7:32 PM
Noozer
"Geezer" <ch***@chrisgallagher.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Theres a lot of very seductive ads in the uk press at the moment for
> onspeed. Does anyone use it or have any evidence that it works?

I prefer a natural high myself... Why would you want to be on speed anyhow?

Of course a bit more detail might be helpful.
Author
20 Feb 2005 8:44 PM
Singleton
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:28:22 -0000, "Geezer"
<ch***@chrisgallagher.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Theres a lot of very seductive ads in the uk press at the moment for
>onspeed. Does anyone use it or have any evidence that it works?

Who gives a rat's ass what onspeed is in the UK !
Author
20 Feb 2005 10:23 PM
Geezer
"Singleton" <La***@Singleton.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:28:22 -0000, "Geezer"
> <ch***@chrisgallagher.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Theres a lot of very seductive ads in the uk press at the moment for
> >onspeed. Does anyone use it or have any evidence that it works?
>
> Who gives a rat's ass what onspeed is in the UK !
>
>
I do as i wouldnt have posted the message in the first place, newb. If your
not gonna answer the question stfu
Author
21 Feb 2005 3:18 PM
Noozer
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>
> "Singleton" <La***@Singleton.com> wrote in message
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> > On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:28:22 -0000, "Geezer"
> > <ch***@chrisgallagher.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >Theres a lot of very seductive ads in the uk press at the moment for
> > >onspeed. Does anyone use it or have any evidence that it works?
> >
> > Who gives a rat's ass what onspeed is in the UK !
> >
> >
> I do as i wouldnt have posted the message in the first place, newb. If
your
> not gonna answer the question stfu

And what kind of hardware does it use?

....and just what the hell is it, newb?
Author
21 Feb 2005 3:30 PM
Keith
"Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
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> "Geezer" <ch***@chrisgallagher.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Singleton" <La***@Singleton.com> wrote in message
>> news:1hth11lmd5rq73ekpefml04spk5dm4dut6@4ax.com...
>> > On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:28:22 -0000, "Geezer"
>> > <ch***@chrisgallagher.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > >Theres a lot of very seductive ads in the uk press at the moment for
>> > >onspeed. Does anyone use it or have any evidence that it works?
>> >
>> > Who gives a rat's ass what onspeed is in the UK !
>> >
>> >
>> I do as i wouldnt have posted the message in the first place, newb. If
> your
>> not gonna answer the question stfu
>
> And what kind of hardware does it use?
>
> ...and just what the hell is it, newb?
>

I posted this earlier but it seems to have got lost, so here it is again:

I have several friends who still use dial up and have taken up on-speed.
They sing its praises very highly and I have heard no complaints from them
at all.  Seems like an excellent system and, Larry,  it IS in the UK
http://www.onspeed.com/en/ .

It is a purely software solution, just your ordinary dial up modem is
required.

Keith
If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!
Author
21 Feb 2005 4:02 PM
Noozer
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> >> > >Theres a lot of very seductive ads in the uk press at the moment for
> >> > >onspeed. Does anyone use it or have any evidence that it works?
> >> >
> >> > Who gives a rat's ass what onspeed is in the UK !
> >> >
> >> >
> >> I do as i wouldnt have posted the message in the first place, newb. If
> > your
> >> not gonna answer the question stfu
> >
> > And what kind of hardware does it use?
> >
> > ...and just what the hell is it, newb?
> >
> I posted this earlier but it seems to have got lost, so here it is again:
>
> I have several friends who still use dial up and have taken up on-speed.
> They sing its praises very highly and I have heard no complaints from them
> at all.  Seems like an excellent system and, Larry,  it IS in the UK
> http://www.onspeed.com/en/ .
>
> It is a purely software solution, just your ordinary dial up modem is
> required.


So why is it in alt.comp.hardware then?

And all it does is screw with all the images so the webpage downloads go
faster.
Author
21 Feb 2005 5:26 PM
bebop
Noozer wrote:
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>>>>>>Theres a lot of very seductive ads in the uk press at the moment for
>>>>>>onspeed. Does anyone use it or have any evidence that it works?
>>>>>
>>>>>Who gives a rat's ass what onspeed is in the UK !
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I do as i wouldnt have posted the message in the first place, newb. If
>>>
>>>your
>>>
>>>>not gonna answer the question stfu
>>>
>>>And what kind of hardware does it use?
>>>
>>>...and just what the hell is it, newb?
>>>
>>
>>I posted this earlier but it seems to have got lost, so here it is again:
>>
>>I have several friends who still use dial up and have taken up on-speed.
>>They sing its praises very highly and I have heard no complaints from them
>>at all.  Seems like an excellent system and, Larry,  it IS in the UK
>>http://www.onspeed.com/en/ .
>>
>>It is a purely software solution, just your ordinary dial up modem is
>>required.
>
>
>
> So why is it in alt.comp.hardware then?
>
> And all it does is screw with all the images so the webpage downloads go
> faster.
>
>
It's called compression Noozer although that's a bit of
complex concept for your dim little Canadian brain to grasp
I suppose.
Author
21 Feb 2005 6:16 PM
kony
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 17:26:10 +0000, bebop <be***@news.com>
wrote:

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>Noozer wrote:
>>>>>>>Theres a lot of very seductive ads in the uk press at the moment for
>>>>>>>onspeed. Does anyone use it or have any evidence that it works?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Who gives a rat's ass what onspeed is in the UK !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I do as i wouldnt have posted the message in the first place, newb. If
>>>>
>>>>your
>>>>
>>>>>not gonna answer the question stfu
>>>>
>>>>And what kind of hardware does it use?
>>>>
>>>>...and just what the hell is it, newb?
>>>>
>>>
>>>I posted this earlier but it seems to have got lost, so here it is again:
>>>
>>>I have several friends who still use dial up and have taken up on-speed.
>>>They sing its praises very highly and I have heard no complaints from them
>>>at all.  Seems like an excellent system and, Larry,  it IS in the UK
>>>http://www.onspeed.com/en/ .
>>>
>>>It is a purely software solution, just your ordinary dial up modem is
>>>required.
>>
>>
>>
>> So why is it in alt.comp.hardware then?
>>
>> And all it does is screw with all the images so the webpage downloads go
>> faster.
>>
>>
>It's called compression Noozer although that's a bit of
>complex concept for your dim little Canadian brain to grasp
>I suppose.

Is it *only* a compression change or do they use private
caching servers too?
Author
21 Feb 2005 8:41 PM
recursor
"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 17:26:10 +0000, bebop <be***@news.com>
> wrote:
>
<snip>>

> Is it *only* a compression change or do they use private
> caching servers too?

They do have their own servers and must I'd have thought use caching, although
(I suspect for legal reasons) they are a bit coy about the caching aspect,
recently they seem to be a bit overloaded at peak times too(connection delays to
helios). Their  *big* disadvantage is that (obviously ) they can't compress
already compressed data so that on typical downloads allowing for overheads you
end up with negative compression (inflation ?) But for general dial up browsing
they offer a big improvement.
Author
21 Feb 2005 10:17 PM
Noozer
> >>It is a purely software solution, just your ordinary dial up modem is
> >>required.

> > So why is it in alt.comp.hardware then?
> >
> > And all it does is screw with all the images so the webpage downloads go
> > faster.

> It's called compression Noozer although that's a bit of
> complex concept for your dim little Canadian brain to grasp
> I suppose.

At least I have a brain...

Open a JPEG you've gotten from the internet, resave it with 50% more
compression... Looks pretty crappy eh? That's how the "screw" with the
images to make the internet seem faster.
Author
22 Feb 2005 11:19 AM
bebop
Noozer wrote:
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>>>>It is a purely software solution, just your ordinary dial up modem is
>>>>required.
>
>
>>>So why is it in alt.comp.hardware then?
>>>
>>>And all it does is screw with all the images so the webpage downloads go
>>>faster.
>
>
>>It's called compression Noozer although that's a bit of
>>complex concept for your dim little Canadian brain to grasp
>>I suppose.
>
>
> At least I have a brain...
>

> Open a JPEG you've gotten from the internet, resave it with 50% more
> compression... Looks pretty crappy eh? That's how the "screw" with the
> images to make the internet seem faster.
>
>


You get the option to control the compression so you can
balance speed/appearance to suit your own taste, which is
pretty cool. They also compress at least eight other types
of file, the net result of which is an improved browsing
experience. It is not, as they claim a substitute for
broadband of course.
BTW I know you have a brain, it's problem is it's inflated
idea of it's own importance.
HTH
Author
22 Feb 2005 2:29 PM
Noozer
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> >>It's called compression Noozer although that's a bit of
> >>complex concept for your dim little Canadian brain to grasp
> >>I suppose.
> >
> > At least I have a brain...
>
> > Open a JPEG you've gotten from the internet, resave it with 50% more
> > compression... Looks pretty crappy eh? That's how the "screw" with the
> > images to make the internet seem faster.
>
> You get the option to control the compression so you can
> balance speed/appearance to suit your own taste, which is
> pretty cool. They also compress at least eight other types
> of file, the net result of which is an improved browsing
> experience. It is not, as they claim a substitute for
> broadband of course.

It's great that they allow you to control the compression. Still not a
hardware issue though.

> BTW I know you have a brain, it's problem is it's inflated
> idea of it's own importance.

Sorry, but you were the one who started the brain bashing.
Author
22 Feb 2005 4:17 PM
bebop
Noozer wrote:
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>>>>It's called compression Noozer although that's a bit of
>>>>complex concept for your dim little Canadian brain to grasp
>>>>I suppose.
>>>
>>>At least I have a brain...
>>
>>>Open a JPEG you've gotten from the internet, resave it with 50% more
>>>compression... Looks pretty crappy eh? That's how the "screw" with the
>>>images to make the internet seem faster.
>>
>>You get the option to control the compression so you can
>>balance speed/appearance to suit your own taste, which is
>>pretty cool. They also compress at least eight other types
>>of file, the net result of which is an improved browsing
>>experience. It is not, as they claim a substitute for
>>broadband of course.
>
>
> It's great that they allow you to control the compression. Still not a
> hardware issue though.
>
True but hardware can't really be considered in isolation
from software since obviously the two are inextricably
interrelated, I mean it's not as if the OP was waaaay OT or
a troll.

>
>>BTW I know you have a brain, it's problem is it's inflated
>>idea of it's own importance.
>
>
> Sorry, but you were the one who started the brain bashing.
>

True, your replies were admirably self controlled..
Author
22 Feb 2005 7:43 PM
kony
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:29:42 GMT, "Noozer"
<dont.spam@me.here> wrote:

>It's great that they allow you to control the compression. Still not a
>hardware issue though.
>

I would be surprised if it's lossy compression.  Resaving a
JPEG wouldn't be a similar situation then as it's lossy
compression.  They can't use (only) a single compression
scheme that's lossy, since an image might only look worse
but the vast majority of downloaded data can't be "lossy",
like HTML.
Author
21 Feb 2005 8:07 PM
Keith
"Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
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>> >> > >Theres a lot of very seductive ads in the uk press at the moment
>> >> > >for
>> >> > >onspeed. Does anyone use it or have any evidence that it works?
>> >> >
>> >> > Who gives a rat's ass what onspeed is in the UK !
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> I do as i wouldnt have posted the message in the first place, newb. If
>> > your
>> >> not gonna answer the question stfu
>> >
>> > And what kind of hardware does it use?
>> >
>> > ...and just what the hell is it, newb?
>> >
>> I posted this earlier but it seems to have got lost, so here it is again:
>>
>> I have several friends who still use dial up and have taken up on-speed.
>> They sing its praises very highly and I have heard no complaints from
>> them
>> at all.  Seems like an excellent system and, Larry,  it IS in the UK
>> http://www.onspeed.com/en/ .
>>
>> It is a purely software solution, just your ordinary dial up modem is
>> required.
>
>
> So why is it in alt.comp.hardware then?
>
> And all it does is screw with all the images so the webpage downloads go
> faster.
>
>

The web pages etc. travel to you via On-speeds server which compresses them
so they get through the bottle neck of your modem faster.  There is supposed
to be a slight degradation of the picture quality but when I have seen it I
could see no difference (except the speed).   As to why it is on
alt.comp.hardware, I can only suppose that somebody doesn't know any better,
or thought that we were better informed ;o)).

Keith
Author
22 Feb 2005 7:12 PM
kony
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:07:43 +0000 (UTC), "Keith"
<buccan***@invalidaddress.com> wrote:


>The web pages etc. travel to you via On-speeds server which compresses them
>so they get through the bottle neck of your modem faster.  There is supposed
>to be a slight degradation of the picture quality but when I have seen it I
>could see no difference (except the speed). 

This is curious.
I encourage anyone with this service to download a picture
via alternate methods too, and do a CRC check on both.  I
suspect (only makes sense as a "good" service) that it does
not re-JPG images, rather a 2nd layer of compression that is
lossless, or possibly none at all for JPEG, only for other
formats like BMP.
Author
21 Feb 2005 9:20 AM
Keith
"Singleton" <La***@Singleton.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:28:22 -0000, "Geezer"
> <ch***@chrisgallagher.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Theres a lot of very seductive ads in the uk press at the moment for
>>onspeed. Does anyone use it or have any evidence that it works?
>
> Who gives a rat's ass what onspeed is in the UK !
>
>

I have several friends who still use dial up and have taken up on-speed.
They sing its praises very highly and I have heard no complaints from them
at all.  Seems like an excellent system and, Larry,  it IS in the UK
http://www.onspeed.com/en/ .

Keith
If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!