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How to watch European videos in US?I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US,
especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an easier way??? xavi wrote:
> I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, A few years ago I got a multistandard Sony deck from B&H in NYC.> especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and > also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the > video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. > So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? > Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? > I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an > easier way??? However, not many consumer TVs sold in America accept/display the 50hz PAL and SECAM standards. If you plan on acquiring a substantial number of European videos, your best bet is an industrial monitor. These aren't exactly cheap, though with luck you may find one second hand or B stock from a pro gear dealer. There are some VCRs that do on-the-fly conversions, but these will be pretty crappy looking. C. On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:22:38 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, xavi <no@spam.xz> arranged some
electrons, so they looked like this : ... I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, ... especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and ... also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the ... video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. ... So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? ... Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? ... I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an ... easier way??? Look for a multi-system video-recorder. Magda wrote:
Show quote > Easier to find in Europe, than in the US.> On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:22:38 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, xavi <no@spam.xz> arranged some > electrons, so they looked like this : > > ... I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, > ... especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and > ... also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the > ... video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. > ... So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? > ... Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? > ... I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an > ... easier way??? > > Look for a multi-system video-recorder. Sheila On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:35:31 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, S Viemeister
<firstname.lastn***@which.net> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : ... Magda wrote: ... > ... > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:22:38 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, xavi <no@spam.xz> arranged some ... > electrons, so they looked like this : ... > ... > ... I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, ... > ... especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and ... > ... also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the ... > ... video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. ... > ... So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? ... > ... Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? ... > ... I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an ... > ... easier way??? ... > ... > Look for a multi-system video-recorder. ... ... Easier to find in Europe, than in the US. Not impossible, I hope. Magda wrote:
> No, not impossible. There are some specialist shops, which cater to ex-pat> On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:35:31 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, S Viemeister > <firstname.lastn***@which.net> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : > > ... Magda wrote: > ... > Look for a multi-system video-recorder. > ... > ... Easier to find in Europe, than in the US. > > Not impossible, I hope. > and immigrant communities. The last time I looked, the prices were considerably higher than for standard US-only models. Sheila S Viemeister wrote:
Show quote > Magda wrote: Yes, considerably pricier than standard US models but considerably > >>On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:35:31 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, S Viemeister >><firstname.lastn***@which.net> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : >> >> ... Magda wrote: >> ... > Look for a multi-system video-recorder. >> ... >> ... Easier to find in Europe, than in the US. >> >>Not impossible, I hope. >> > > No, not impossible. There are some specialist shops, which cater to ex-pat > and immigrant communities. The last time I looked, the prices were > considerably higher than for standard US-only models. > > Sheila > cheaper than multi-system TVs in Europe. Before moving to Germany we bought ours about 12 years ago from a company in NYC that specializes in these things. It was a JVC, a great instrument. I believe it was a gray market item because we received no instructions on the TV or VCR. BTW, you need to have both a TV and VCR in multi-system. John Bermont -- ------------------------------------------------------ * * * Mastering Independent Budget Travel * * * http://www.enjoy-europe.com/ ------------------------------------------------------ On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:28:14 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, John Bermont
<bermontNOSPAMMERS@enjoy-europe.com> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : ... Yes, considerably pricier than standard US models but considerably ... cheaper than multi-system TVs in Europe. Before moving to Germany we ... bought ours about 12 years ago from a company in NYC that specializes in ... these things. It was a JVC, a great instrument. I believe it was a gray ... market item because we received no instructions on the TV or VCR. BTW, ... you need to have both a TV and VCR in multi-system. ... ... John Bermont Were there multi-system TVs in 1985 ?
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"Magda" <eglant***@unesourisverte.com> wrote in message Sony had one but it was extremely expensive , around 3news:h6tbs0pmaj2tfp4nq66uor9m2uj36b1m1l@4ax.com... > On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:28:14 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, John Bermont > <bermontNOSPAMMERS@enjoy-europe.com> arranged some electrons, so they > looked like this : > > ... Yes, considerably pricier than standard US models but considerably > ... cheaper than multi-system TVs in Europe. Before moving to Germany we > ... bought ours about 12 years ago from a company in NYC that specializes > in > ... these things. It was a JVC, a great instrument. I believe it was a > gray > ... market item because we received no instructions on the TV or VCR. BTW, > ... you need to have both a TV and VCR in multi-system. > ... > ... John Bermont > > Were there multi-system TVs in 1985 ? > times the cost of a standard unit as I recall. Keith Keith Willshaw writes:
> Sony had one but it was extremely expensive , around 3 Most new TV sets in Europe today support at least PAL and NTSC, and> times the cost of a standard unit as I recall. often SECAM as well, and this is true even for cheap models. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. John Bermont <bermontNOSPAMMERS@enjoy-europe.com> wrote:
[] > Yes, considerably pricier than standard US models but considerably Just as a data point, many (most?) new UK TV's, even very cheap ones,> cheaper than multi-system TVs in Europe. Before moving to Germany we > bought ours about 12 years ago from a company in NYC that specializes in > these things. It was a JVC, a great instrument. I believe it was a gray > market item because we received no instructions on the TV or VCR. BTW, > you need to have both a TV and VCR in multi-system. support NTSC, as do the VCRs. That's not supporting every system, obviously, but it's certainly supporting the most common 'foreign' system that UK users need to use. With DVD recorders now retailing as low as £100 here, I'd imagine the VCR is on the way out now anyway. One of the largest electronics chains in the UK (Dixons) has recently decided to no longer sell VCRs.
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"Magda" <eglant***@unesourisverte.com> wrote in message Google for multi standard vcrnews:pkj9s0t81bi9n6hel858ba9ct2omd0jd5q@4ax.com... > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:35:31 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, S Viemeister > <firstname.lastn***@which.net> arranged some electrons, so they looked > like this : > > ... Magda wrote: > ... > > ... > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:22:38 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, xavi > <no@spam.xz> arranged some > ... > electrons, so they looked like this : > ... > > ... > ... I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the > US, > ... > ... especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, > and > ... > ... also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that > the > ... > ... video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, > SECAM. > ... > ... So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other > countries? > ... > ... Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're > interested in? > ... > ... I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there > an > ... > ... easier way??? > ... > > ... > Look for a multi-system video-recorder. > ... > ... Easier to find in Europe, than in the US. > > Not impossible, I hope. > That gives you LOTS of hits Keith Magda <eglant***@unesourisverte.com> wrote:
Show quote > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:35:31 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, S Viemeister Not impossible, but certainly not as easy. I had one (memorex), and it> <firstname.lastn***@which.net> arranged some electrons, so they looked > like this : > > ... Magda wrote: > ... > > ... > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:22:38 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, xavi > ... > <no@spam.xz> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : > ... > > ... > ... I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the > ... > ... US, especially from European countries like UK, France, and > ... > ... Spain, and also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I > ... > ... understand that the video standards vary from country to > ... > ... country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. So what do you do if you want > ... > ... to watch videos from other countries? Do you have to buy VCRs > ... > ... from all the countries you're interested in? I guess you would > ... > ... also need converters and adaptors? Is there an easier way??? > ... > > ... > Look for a multi-system video-recorder. > ... > ... Easier to find in Europe, than in the US. > > Not impossible, I hope. wasn't cheap, and yet the quality was quite poor- it was like a low resolution digital image. Compar that to the UK (and I think much of Europe now), where you can buy cheap VCRs and TVs that play US tapes at the same quality as UK ones. I suspect it's a demand issue- that is, there is more demand in the UK and other countries for watching US videos than the other way around. On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:55:39 +0000, in rec.travel.europe,
this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : ... ... Not impossible, but certainly not as easy. I had one (memorex), and it ... wasn't cheap, and yet the quality was quite poor- it was like a low ... resolution digital image. Compar that to the UK (and I think much of ... Europe now), where you can buy cheap VCRs and TVs that play US tapes at ... the same quality as UK ones. I suspect it's a demand issue- that is, ... there is more demand in the UK and other countries for watching US ... videos than the other way around. I have had one since 1998 (a JVC) and don't see any difference in quality from one tape to another. I have tapes in Secam, Pal and NTSC formats. Magda <eglant***@unesourisverte.com> wrote:
Show quote > On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:55:39 +0000, in rec.travel.europe, Did you buy it in the US? That's what I was responding to. If you bought> this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' > th' barn) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : > > ... > ... Not impossible, but certainly not as easy. I had one (memorex), and > ... it wasn't cheap, and yet the quality was quite poor- it was like a > ... low resolution digital image. Compar that to the UK (and I think much > ... of Europe now), where you can buy cheap VCRs and TVs that play US > ... tapes at the same quality as UK ones. I suspect it's a demand issue- > ... that is, there is more demand in the UK and other countries for > ... watching US videos than the other way around. > > I have had one since 1998 (a JVC) and don't see any difference in quality > from one tape to another. I have tapes in Secam, Pal and NTSC formats. yours in Europe, then you're supporting my point. It's not as easy to get one cheaply in the US. I paid around £60 for my VCR, and there's no difference between NTSC and PAL either. I don't know if my VCR or TV supports secam though, but as I pointed out, there's probably not much demand for it. When I left the US, I sold my multi-system VCR and even with what I considered poor quality video, I managed to get around 200 dollars for it. I paid 400 dollars when I bought it (then secondhand) and that was around 7 years before that. On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:31:03 +0000, in rec.travel.europe,
this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : ... Magda <eglant***@unesourisverte.com> wrote: ... ... > On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:55:39 +0000, in rec.travel.europe, ... > this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' ... > th' barn) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : ... > ... > ... ... > ... Not impossible, but certainly not as easy. I had one (memorex), and ... > ... it wasn't cheap, and yet the quality was quite poor- it was like a ... > ... low resolution digital image. Compar that to the UK (and I think much ... > ... of Europe now), where you can buy cheap VCRs and TVs that play US ... > ... tapes at the same quality as UK ones. I suspect it's a demand issue- ... > ... that is, there is more demand in the UK and other countries for ... > ... watching US videos than the other way around. ... > ... > I have had one since 1998 (a JVC) and don't see any difference in quality ... > from one tape to another. I have tapes in Secam, Pal and NTSC formats. ... ... Did you buy it in the US? That's what I was responding to. If you bought ... yours in Europe, then you're supporting my point. Nope, I was mentioning quality. Did you miss it ? Magda <eglant***@unesourisverte.com> wrote:
Show quote > On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:31:03 +0000, in rec.travel.europe, No, I understood it your post- it just supported mine, that's all. I> this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' > th' barn) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : > > ... Magda <eglant***@unesourisverte.com> wrote: > ... > ... > On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:55:39 +0000, in rec.travel.europe, > ... > this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com (chancellor of the duchy of > ... > besses o' th' barn) arranged some electrons, so they looked like > ... > this : > ... > > ... > ... > ... > ... Not impossible, but certainly not as easy. I had one > ... > ... (memorex), and it wasn't cheap, and yet the quality was quite > ... > ... poor- it was like a low resolution digital image. Compar that > ... > ... to the UK (and I think much of Europe now), where you can buy > ... > ... cheap VCRs and TVs that play US tapes at the same quality as > ... > ... UK ones. I suspect it's a demand issue- that is, there is more > ... > ... demand in the UK and other countries for watching US videos > ... > ... than the other way around. > ... > > ... > I have had one since 1998 (a JVC) and don't see any difference in > ... > quality from one tape to another. I have tapes in Secam, Pal and > ... > NTSC formats. > ... > ... Did you buy it in the US? That's what I was responding to. If you bought > ... yours in Europe, then you're supporting my point. > > Nope, I was mentioning quality. Did you miss it ? wrote it's harder to get a good quality multi format video in the US than Europe. You then post that you have a machine with good quality, which from your silence to my question I assume you _didn't_ buy in the US, so that does support my point. What am I missing exactly? On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:19:21 +0000, in rec.travel.europe,
this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : ... No, I understood it your post- it just supported mine, that's all. I ... wrote it's harder to get a good quality multi format video in the US ... than Europe. You then post that you have a machine with good quality, ... which from your silence to my question I assume you _didn't_ buy in the ... US, so that does support my point. What am I missing exactly? Which brand is yours ? Magda <eglant***@unesourisverte.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:19:21 +0000, in rec.travel.europe, What are you referring to now? If it's the one I owned in the US, I've> this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' > th' barn) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : > > ... No, I understood it your post- it just supported mine, that's all. I > ... wrote it's harder to get a good quality multi format video in the US > ... than Europe. You then post that you have a machine with good quality, > ... which from your silence to my question I assume you _didn't_ buy in > ... the US, so that does support my point. What am I missing exactly? > > Which brand is yours ? already mentioned that in my initial post (memorex). If it's the one in the UK, I don't see why that's important, as I've already said the quality is not an issue, even with a cheap model, which is what I have. (Thompson.) On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:19:21 +0000, in rec.travel.europe,
this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : ... ... No, I understood it your post- it just supported mine, that's all. I ... wrote it's harder to get a good quality multi format video in the US ... than Europe. You then post that you have a machine with good quality, ... which from your silence to my question I assume you _didn't_ buy in the ... US, so that does support my point. What am I missing exactly? That you were the first to mention quality. Of course I didn't buy it in the US; not only I don't intend to go there, ever, I don't see why I would buy it there, given that I have ample choice of multi-system VCR in Europe. Magda <eglant***@unesourisverte.com> wrote:
[] _Fascinating_, except that the original poster is from the US, and is likely to buy it there. On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 17:46:53 +0000, in rec.travel.europe,
this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : ... Magda <eglant***@unesourisverte.com> wrote: ... ... [] ... ... _Fascinating_, except that the original poster is from the US, and is ... likely to buy it there. Fascinating, really - I never told him to buy it here. S Viemeister wrote:
Show quote > Magda wrote: True, but available in the U.S. - especially through the > >>On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:22:38 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, xavi <no@spam.xz> arranged some >>electrons, so they looked like this : >> >> ... I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, >> ... especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and >> ... also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the >> ... video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. >> ... So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? >> ... Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? >> ... I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an >> ... easier way??? >> >>Look for a multi-system video-recorder. > > > Easier to find in Europe, than in the US. internet. (Just be sure they will work with a U.S. TV set, which I understand is a separate issue.) Show quote > > Sheila > I have one.It's the SLV 150 EE sony VCR, and has two switches:Colour system
(auto-pal mesecam-ntsc) and NTSC playback (ntsc 4.43-on pal tv).You can get one here very cheap, less than 100 euro. -- Tzortzakakis Dimitri?s major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr ? "S Viemeister" <firstname.lastn***@which.net> ?????? ??? ?????? <no@spam.xz> arranged somenews:41C4CCD3.5ED97737@which.net... > Magda wrote: > > > > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:22:38 -0500, in rec.travel.europe, xavi Show quote > > electrons, so they looked like this : > > > > ... I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, > > ... especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and > > ... also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the > > ... video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. > > ... So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? > > ... Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? > > ... I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an > > ... easier way??? > > > > Look for a multi-system video-recorder. > > Easier to find in Europe, than in the US. > > Sheila > xavi <no@spam.xz> wrote in news:6ei9s0t1gejen1lhh3im4t48sjrehn5fr5@4ax.com: Look for US standard versions at places like Netflicks> I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, > especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and > also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the > video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. > So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? > Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? > I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an > easier way??? In article <Xns95C3C9CF4635E225stellar@216.196.97.136>,
jcoulter <225stellarDROPT***@comcast.net> wrote: >xavi <no@spam.xz> wrote in news:6ei9s0t1gejen1lhh3im4t48sjrehn5fr5@4ax.com: NetFlix doesn't carry videotapes.> >> So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? >> Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? > >Look for US standard versions at places like Netflicks Besides, it sounds like the OP may already have the videos he wants to watch, but is now in the U.S. and looking for a way to view them. Patty
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"Patty Winter" <pat***@wintertime.com> wrote in message The OP may wish to look at www.bhphotovideo.com Then select Video-Consumer and news:cq2kl2$fff$1@bolt.sonic.net... > In article <Xns95C3C9CF4635E225stellar@216.196.97.136>, > jcoulter <225stellarDROPT***@comcast.net> wrote: >>xavi <no@spam.xz> wrote in news:6ei9s0t1gejen1lhh3im4t48sjrehn5fr5@4ax.com: >> >>> So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? >>> Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? >> >>Look for US standard versions at places like Netflicks > > NetFlix doesn't carry videotapes. > > Besides, it sounds like the OP may already have the videos > he wants to watch, but is now in the U.S. and looking for a > way to view them. > > > Patty choose the option PAL & Multisystem. JohnT jcoulter wrote:
Show quote > xavi <no@spam.xz> wrote in news:6ei9s0t1gejen1lhh3im4t48sjrehn5fr5@4ax.com: Which somewhat begs the issue, doesn't it? I understood the > > >>I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, >>especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and >>also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the >>video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. >>So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? >>Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? >>I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an >>easier way??? > > > Look for US standard versions at places like Netflicks OP wants to bew able to play ALL formats (I assumed he was posting from the U.S., but perhaps not.)
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgm***@earthlink.net> wrote in OP wanted to watch didn't say if he/she had the videos/dvds alreadynews:cq4vm122s0n@news3.newsguy.com: > > > jcoulter wrote: > >> xavi <no@spam.xz> wrote in >> news:6ei9s0t1gejen1lhh3im4t48sjrehn5fr5@4ax.com: >> >> >>>I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, >>>especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and >>>also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the >>>video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. >>>So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? >>>Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? >>>I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an >>>easier way??? >> >> >> Look for US standard versions at places like Netflicks > > Which somewhat begs the issue, doesn't it? I understood the > OP wants to bew able to play ALL formats (I assumed he was > posting from the U.S., but perhaps not.) > > xavi wrote:
> I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, --- Locate some video shops in your area that specialize in> especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and > also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the > video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. > So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? > Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? > I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an > easier way??? renting/selling foreign or ethnic videos, especially Middle Eastern or East Indian. Chances are they might also provide a conversion service, transferring such videos you may have into the U.S. format. Rates can vary from a few bucks to $10 per tape, so it might end up costing you a bit unless you can work out a bulk deal if you have a lot of tapes to transfer. WQ wrote:
Show quote > xavi wrote: If he has a lot of them, it would probably be more economic > >>I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, >>especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and >>also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the >>video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. >>So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? >>Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? >>I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an >>easier way??? > > > --- Locate some video shops in your area that specialize in > renting/selling foreign or ethnic videos, especially Middle Eastern or > East Indian. Chances are they might also provide a conversion service, > transferring such videos you may have into the U.S. format. Rates can > vary from a few bucks to $10 per tape, so it might end up costing you a > bit unless you can work out a bulk deal if you have a lot of tapes to > transfer. to simpy BUY a VCR that played both! (Also, tapes transferred from PAL to NTSC sometimes lose a bit in translation - it's better if you can view them directly.) Show quote > ----------
In article <6ei9s0t1gejen1lhh3im4t48sjrehn5***@4ax.com>, xavi <no@spam.xz> wrote: > I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, Sure, there's an easier (and cheaper) way. Since VHS is a dying medium> especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and > also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the > video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. > So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? > Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? > I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an > easier way??? anyway, make the move into DVD and get yourself what's known as an all-region DVD player. They're becoming much more widely available in North America, and are able to play discs in any international format. Do an on-line search for further information, or inquire at any good specialty home-entertainment store (i.e not Wal-Mart or the like). I would second the idea to transfer videos to DVD. There are different
approaches for commercial tapes and your own recordings but solutions for both are available. I bought cheap Apex DVD player at Walmart 2 years ago and that unit will play PAL DVD on NTSC only TV without any problems or additional conversions. There are also firmware hacks available for many DVD players to get rid of that idiotic region limitations. You may want to go to one of many DVD websites to find particular models. Usually no name Chinese made DVD models are most flexible and worst are brand names like Sony. G. M. Watson wrote:
> Sure, there's an easier (and cheaper) way. Since VHS is a dying medium Or Radio Shack - at least the one I went to had never heard > anyway, make the move into DVD and get yourself what's known as an > all-region DVD player. They're becoming much more widely available in North > America, and are able to play discs in any international format. Do an > on-line search for further information, or inquire at any good specialty > home-entertainment store (i.e not Wal-Mart or the like). of such a thing! (Which I took to mean they just didn't carry them.) On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 14:40:09 -0800, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<evgm***@earthlink.net> wrote: > I'd've thought wal-mart would be the ideal place, the best place in> >G. M. Watson wrote: > > >> Sure, there's an easier (and cheaper) way. Since VHS is a dying medium >> anyway, make the move into DVD and get yourself what's known as an >> all-region DVD player. They're becoming much more widely available in North >> America, and are able to play discs in any international format. Do an >> on-line search for further information, or inquire at any good specialty >> home-entertainment store (i.e not Wal-Mart or the like). the UK for all-region players is the supermarkets including the wal-mart subsidiary Asda. Asda recently had some DVD players that were region free and Div-X capable which they advertised with "ideal for movies downloaded off the internet"... >Or Radio Shack - at least the one I went to had never heard Or more likely that they employ people with no awareness of their>of such a thing! (Which I took to mean they just didn't >carry them.) product lines or the general market... Jim. "xavi" <no@spam.xz> wrote in message Muti-standard video players are available in the US, I have a Samsung "worldnews:6ei9s0t1gejen1lhh3im4t48sjrehn5fr5@4ax.com... > I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, > especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and > also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the > video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. > So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? > Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? > I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an > easier way??? wide video" model SV5000W (it's quite old now so no-doubt been updated). That does PAL and Secam (as well as NTSC) in all its various flavors. Alternatively you could just get a Standards Converter, this would plug between your NTSC player and the TV. The Player would be outputing the PAL signal it would be seeing on the tape which would then be converted to NTSC. Personally I found the Player produced a better NTSC signal, but the the converter would be cheaper
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"Electric Frog" <BounceDave2***@yahoo.com> wrote in message The Samsung is capable of reading one format tape and outputting it innews:32katvF3m5up4U1@individual.net... > > "xavi" <no@spam.xz> wrote in message > news:6ei9s0t1gejen1lhh3im4t48sjrehn5fr5@4ax.com... > > I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, > > especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and > > also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the > > video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. > > So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? > > Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? > > I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an > > easier way??? > > Muti-standard video players are available in the US, I have a Samsung "world > wide video" model SV5000W (it's quite old now so no-doubt been updated). > That does PAL and Secam (as well as NTSC) in all its various flavors. > > Alternatively you could just get a Standards Converter, this would plug > between your NTSC player and the TV. The Player would be outputing the PAL > signal it would be seeing on the tape which would then be converted to NTSC. > Personally I found the Player produced a better NTSC signal, but the the > converter would be cheaper > another Format, e.g. SECAM Tape produces NTSC or vice versa. It's also capable of recording one format into another (e.g. NTSC signal to a PAL format on tape). However it costs, looking at web prices then it currently appears to cost about $300 in article 32oo2bF3nsnm***@individual.net, Electric Frog at
BounceDave2***@yahoo.com wrote on 12/20/04 11:38 AM: > Can anyone tell me if it's possible to use the Samsung as just a converter.> The Samsung is capable of reading one format tape and outputting it in > another Format, e.g. SECAM Tape produces NTSC or vice versa. It's also > capable of recording one format into another (e.g. NTSC signal to a PAL > format on tape). However it costs, looking at web prices then it currently > appears to cost about $300 I have a Panasonic multiregion DVD player that seems to be able to play PAL DVDs. When I connect its output into the Samsung worldwide, set the input to PAL and the output to NTSC, all I get a blue screen. I don't necessarily want to record--just output a converted signal to my NTSC TV to be able to watch the PAL DVD. Do I have to record to get the conversion to work? Or is there something I'm missing about why this doesn't work. I tried setting up the DVD player where the "NTSC" disc setting was either set on NTSC or PAL60....doesn't seem to matter. -kathy I have a Samsung. It should work just fine. Are you sure your DVD player isn't
outputting an NTSC signal? I have a couple of players that convert PAL to real, full compliance, NTSC output. p a w e b e r 0 2 @ a o l . c o m >Can anyone tell me if it's possible to use the Samsung as just a converter. webpa>I have a Panasonic multiregion DVD player that seems to be able to play PAL >DVDs. When I connect its output into the Samsung worldwide, set the input >to PAL and the output to NTSC, all I get a blue screen. I don't necessarily >want to record--just output a converted signal to my NTSC TV to be able to >watch the PAL DVD. Do I have to record to get the conversion to work? Or >is there something I'm missing about why this doesn't work. I tried setting >up the DVD player where the "NTSC" disc setting was either set on NTSC or >PAL60....doesn't seem to matter. > >-kathy > > Thanks...knowing it should work, I have gotten it to work. It was actually
a stupid thing I'd done wrong...incorrect input. But when I use the Samsung to watch the one and only Pal DVD that I own, it's very "flashy." The picture quality itself is really very nice, it's just that every few seconds there's a split second flash. When playing the two commercial PAL tapes I own, this doesn't happen, or very rarely. Have I done something wrong, or is this just as good as the Samsung can do when converting DVD content? Or maybe it varies DVD to DVD? If this is representative, it's quite watchable, just not wonderful. Thanks :) -kathy in article 20041228181545.06500.00001***@mb-m22.aol.com, WEBPA at we***@aol.com wrote on 12/28/04 3:15 PM: Show quote > I have a Samsung. It should work just fine. Are you sure your DVD player > isn't > outputting an NTSC signal? I have a couple of players that convert PAL to > real, full compliance, NTSC output. > > p a w e b e r 0 2 @ a o l . c o m > > >> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to use the Samsung as just a converter. >> I have a Panasonic multiregion DVD player that seems to be able to play PAL >> DVDs. When I connect its output into the Samsung worldwide, set the input >> to PAL and the output to NTSC, all I get a blue screen. I don't necessarily >> want to record--just output a converted signal to my NTSC TV to be able to >> watch the PAL DVD. Do I have to record to get the conversion to work? Or >> is there something I'm missing about why this doesn't work. I tried setting >> up the DVD player where the "NTSC" disc setting was either set on NTSC or >> PAL60....doesn't seem to matter. >> >> -kathy >> >> The flashing you describe is due to the Macrovision (copy prevention) "feature"
of DVD disks and players. This is only a problem for viewing if your DVD player is connected to a VCR such that the signal goes through the VCR to the monitor (TV receiver). Connect the DVD player directly to the TV...if the flashes go away, that confirms the problem. Show quote >Thanks...knowing it should work, I have gotten it to work. It was actually webpa>a stupid thing I'd done wrong...incorrect input. > >But when I use the Samsung to watch the one and only Pal DVD that I own, >it's very "flashy." The picture quality itself is really very nice, it's >just that every few seconds there's a split second flash. When playing the >two commercial PAL tapes I own, this doesn't happen, or very rarely. > >Have I done something wrong, or is this just as good as the Samsung can do >when converting DVD content? Or maybe it varies DVD to DVD? If this is >representative, it's quite watchable, just not wonderful. > >Thanks :) > >-kathy > xavi writes:
> I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, You can purchase VCRs that will read multiple VHS standards. I have> especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and > also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the > video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. > So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? > Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? one that will read any VHS cassette in the world, and will record in any standard as well. It was pretty expensive (about $3000 new). There are other models that will only handle a specific subset of standards, like PAL (Europe) and NTSC (USA). In addition to a VCR that will read the cassettes, you need a television that will accept the signal and display it. Virtually all VCRs and televisions sold in the USA are NTSC-only, and not suitable for European videos. You can buy dual-standard equipment in Europe and elsewhere, though. Finally, DVDs have a similar problem, but most DVD players will play any DVD from anywhere, requiring only a TV that can accept the output standard (PAL, NTSC, etc.). A much more serious problem with DVDs is zones: each DVD is coded with a zone number, and players will refuse to play DVDs from a zone other than the one for which they were built. The USA is Zone 1, Europe is Zone 2, and so on. It's possible to find multizone players in Europe and in many other countries, but I don't know how easy it is to find them in the USA (most movies are released in Zone 1, so there is less need for a multizone player in the USA). -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. <snipped>
> Take a look here for DVD player hacks> Finally, DVDs have a similar problem, but most DVD players will play > any DVD from anywhere, requiring only a TV that can accept the output > standard (PAL, NTSC, etc.). A much more serious problem with DVDs is > zones: each DVD is coded with a zone number, and players will refuse > to play DVDs from a zone other than the one for which they were > built. The USA is Zone 1, Europe is Zone 2, and so on. It's > possible to find multizone players in Europe and in many other > countries, but I don't know how easy it is to find them in the USA > (most movies are released in Zone 1, so there is less need for a > multizone player in the USA). http://www.dvd.reviewer.co.uk/forums/default.asp?Forum=176&Type=1 Jan On 12/19/04 12:34 AM, in article p1fas0hqli0qdpova6vnhl3ge6a0jq8***@4ax.com,
"Mxsmanic" <mxsma***@hotmail.com> wrote: Region-free DVD players are available in the USA for less than 200 dollars> Finally, DVDs have a similar problem, but most DVD players will play any > DVD from anywhere, requiring only a TV that can accept the output > standard (PAL, NTSC, etc.). A much more serious problem with DVDs is > zones: each DVD is coded with a zone number, and players will refuse to > play DVDs from a zone other than the one for which they were built. The > USA is Zone 1, Europe is Zone 2, and so on. It's possible to find > multizone players in Europe and in many other countries, but I don't > know how easy it is to find them in the USA (most movies are released in > Zone 1, so there is less need for a multizone player in the USA). and not only play all different code zones but most will also automatically convert from PAL/SECAM to NTSC. As expats desperate for UK comedy, we recently bought a JVC region-free DVD (from bestbrandsclub.com, very reasonable) and were just able to plug it into our (NTSC) TV and watch UK DVDs with no problems. Quality was fine. Unless you have a huge number of videos already, I would strongly suggest this option. If nothing else, new DVDs are a lot easier to have shipped to you than videos. helen Helen Steele helen at guernicus dot com "Helen Steele" <he***@guernicus.com> wrote in for less than 200 dollarsmessage news:BDEB225C.50B68%helen@guernicus.com... > > Region-free DVD players are available in the USA > and not only play all different code zones but most will also automatically> convert from PAL/SECAM to NTSC. As expats desperate for UK comedy, we> recently bought a JVC region-free DVD (from bestbrandsclub.com, very> reasonable) and were just able to plug it into our (NTSC) TV and watch UK> DVDs with no problems. Quality was fine. I would strongly suggest> > Unless you have a huge number of videos already, > this option. If nothing else, new DVDs are a lot easier to have shipped to> you than videos. From reading the "hackers" site, it appears thatthe CyberHome DVD-300 can be converted to read all regions by a few keystrokes. I was in my local BestBuys store this afternoon and I counted over 200 of them in stock! They wanted $42, but have had them on sale for about $30 in the past. I'd expect an after-Christmas sale if they are unable to move that huge stock now in the store.
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"R J Carpenter" <rcar***@erols.com> wrote in message Check out Walmart they have them (in Illinois at least) for $35news:56ednSbUxcyWbFjcRVn-qQ@rcn.net... > > "Helen Steele" <he***@guernicus.com> wrote in > message news:BDEB225C.50B68%helen@guernicus.com... > > > > Region-free DVD players are available in the USA > for less than 200 dollars > > and not only play all different code zones but > most will also automatically > > convert from PAL/SECAM to NTSC. As expats > desperate for UK comedy, we > > recently bought a JVC region-free DVD (from > bestbrandsclub.com, very > > reasonable) and were just able to plug it into > our (NTSC) TV and watch UK > > DVDs with no problems. Quality was fine. > > > > Unless you have a huge number of videos already, > I would strongly suggest > > this option. If nothing else, new DVDs are a lot > easier to have shipped to > > you than videos. > > From reading the "hackers" site, it appears that > the CyberHome DVD-300 can be converted to read all > regions by a few keystrokes. I was in my local > BestBuys store this afternoon and I counted over > 200 of them in stock! They wanted $42, but have > had them on sale for about $30 in the past. I'd > expect an after-Christmas sale if they are unable > to move that huge stock now in the store. > If you have a computer of sufficient power and disk space, you can get a DVD
burner and then use a program like DVDShrink to strip out the country code and then rerecord it in the format you want, using a program like Roxio Easy Media Creator. Or just watch it on your computer (some of them have high definition screens now). Show quote "xavi" <no@spam.xz> wrote in message news:6ei9s0t1gejen1lhh3im4t48sjrehn5fr5@4ax.com... >I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, > especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and > also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the > video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. > So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? > Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? > I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an > easier way??? xavi wrote:
> I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, Well, if it's only a small number of videos, you can pay to > especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and > also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the > video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. > So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? > Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? > I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an > easier way??? have them converted to the version available in your country - there are plenty of companies that will do it for a fee (fortunately, I have friends who could convert my "pirate" opera tapes from Europe for me). When I bought my DVD player, I made certain it was "code free" and "region free", and that it would play both our U.S. NTSC format and the European PAL - not sure about SECAM. (SFAIK, there are only those three formats in use, world-wide, with PAL and NTSC the most prevalent - I think SECAM is limited to France.) Someone on one of my newsgroups (it may have been this one) told me that many European machines are designed to play both formats (due to the world-wide taste for American movies). I don't think that would help you much if you are in the U.S., though, because they are designed for European TV sets (which are PAL, not NTSC). You can buy both VCR and DVD machines in America which will play both formats - they are usually a bit more expensive than the kind ordinarily available, but a LOT cheaper than "converters" purchased separately. They may be a bit harder to find, here, where so few people care about anything but American movies, etc., but they are available - certainly on the internet, which is where I found my DVD player. "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgm***@earthlink.net> wrote in message ITYF that this is because they are often released in thatnews:cq4vec02s0n@news3.newsguy.com... > > > xavi wrote: > > Someone on one of my newsgroups (it may have been this one) told me that > many European machines are designed to play both formats (due to the > world-wide taste for American movies). format months earlier (sometimes even before they reach the cinema in Europe) > I don't think that would help you much if you are in the U.S., though, Assuming American TV's are that advanced(!) you can connect> because they are designed for European TV sets (which are PAL, not NTSC). the VCR using a SCART lead and then the above would work a dream tim tim <520010973502.removet***@t-online.de> wrote:
> Assuming American TV's are that advanced(!) you can connect Granted, I haven't puttered much with the new generation of fancy TVs, but I> the VCR using a SCART lead and then the above would work > a dream have never seen an American TV set with a SCART connector. miguel "Miguel Cruz" <m**@admin.u.nu> wrote in message You won't SCART is a European standard and thus extremely unlikely to makenews:epydnSfupe32jlrcRVn-1w@speakeasy.net... > tim <520010973502.removet***@t-online.de> wrote: > > Assuming American TV's are that advanced(!) you can connect > > the VCR using a SCART lead and then the above would work > > a dream > > Granted, I haven't puttered much with the new generation of fancy TVs, but I > have never seen an American TV set with a SCART connector. > it over to the US (even Phillips and Thompson sets don't have them). The US went for the 3 phono plug connection In rec.travel.europe "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgm***@earthlink.net> wrote: AFAIK there is no such thing as SECAM DVDs - the DVDs sold in France> opera tapes from Europe for me). When I bought my DVD > player, I made certain it was "code free" and "region free", > and that it would play both our U.S. NTSC format and the > European PAL - not sure about SECAM. (SFAIK, there are only > those three formats in use, world-wide, with PAL and NTSC > the most prevalent - I think SECAM is limited to France.) are PAL. There is or was such a thing as SECAM DVD player, but that just means a DVD player that would work with a SECAM-only TV set. -- Vera Izrailit Vera Izrailit writes:
> AFAIK there is no such thing as SECAM DVDs - the DVDs sold in France SECAM is largely abandoned even in France. You can still get some SECAM> are PAL. There is or was such a thing as SECAM DVD player, but that > just means a DVD player that would work with a SECAM-only TV set. VHS tapes, mostly of French materials, and SECAM is still used for broadcast, but that's about it. The original advantage of SECAM was very accurate color. However, all TV standards today have matured to the point that they provide excellent color, so SECAM no longer has any advantage. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. xavi wrote:
> I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, Please let me try to throw some more mud into already muddy > especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and > also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the > video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. > So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? > Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? > I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an > easier way??? waters. Many European posters are talking about cheap and common equipment which allows NTSC tapes to be viewed. I do not think that there is an American equivalent, It works like this:- TVs are made to accept some variation in the signals they display. It particular they accept 'wrong' frame rates and lines per picture. VCRs recognize NTSC and play them at the right speed (60 fps). What they output to the TV is a strange signal called NTSC 4.43. This is essentially an ordinary PAL signal but with the wrong no of lines (525) and the wrong frame rate (60). The TV can display this OK. At no stage is the signal 'converted' to PAL. There is no way to connect a PAL recorder and make an PAL copy. VCRs cannot be made to accept slightly 'wrong' signals in the way TVs can. As I said before I do not think the equivalent exists to go the other way. IF the worst comes to the worst you are looking for a true Standard Converter, a complex and expense beast. Phil Phil wrote:
> [European] VCRs recognize NTSC and play them at the right speed The most common compatibility format is PAL-60, not NTSC 4.43. See> (60 fps). What they output to the TV is a strange signal called > NTSC 4.43. This is essentially an ordinary PAL signal but with > the wrong no of lines (525) and the wrong frame rate (60). The > TV can display this OK. <http://google.fi/groups?selm=1994Dec1.110808.5303%40bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk>. -- znark
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"Phil" <phil@i.have.all.the.spam.i.need> wrote in message We do get genuine NTSC 3.58 in other countries (Australia), I watch this allnews:41c6fc9d@212.67.96.135... > xavi wrote: > > > I want to be able to watch videos from other countries in the US, > > especially from European countries like UK, France, and Spain, and > > also from Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, India. I understand that the > > video standards vary from country to country, i.e. NTSC , PAL, SECAM. > > So what do you do if you want to watch videos from other countries? > > Do you have to buy VCRs from all the countries you're interested in? > > I guess you would also need converters and adaptors? Is there an > > easier way??? > > Please let me try to throw some more mud into already muddy > waters. Many European posters are talking about cheap and common > equipment which allows NTSC tapes to be viewed. I do not think > that there is an American equivalent, It works like this:- > > TVs are made to accept some variation in the signals they > display. It particular they accept 'wrong' frame rates and lines > per picture. > > VCRs recognize NTSC and play them at the right speed (60 > fps). What they output to the TV is a strange signal called NTSC > 4.43. This is essentially an ordinary PAL signal but with the > wrong no of lines (525) and the wrong frame rate (60). The TV can > display this OK. > the time on DVD and a Sony television that even includes the hue control, what a novelty. Show quote > At no stage is the signal 'converted' to PAL. There is no way to > connect a PAL recorder and make an PAL copy. VCRs cannot be made > to accept slightly 'wrong' signals in the way TVs can. > > As I said before I do not think the equivalent exists to go the > other way. > > IF the worst comes to the worst you are looking for a true > Standard Converter, a complex and expense beast. > > Phil > >  |
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