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EVC-X10 problem (drum ?)

Author
31 Aug 2007 2:50 PM
verdier
Hello,
I have two EVC-X10 Video-8 camcorders (I live in France but they came
from USA, so in NTSC) and they have both the same problem: the drum
seems to turn too quikly, the image is poor and always desynchronized.
I give one to be repaired (basically to check the guides) but it does
not change anything. Any idea ?

Author
31 Aug 2007 10:12 PM
Gene E. Bloch
On 8/31/2007, verd***@rocketmail.com posted this:
> Hello,
> I have two EVC-X10 Video-8 camcorders (I live in France but they came
> from USA, so in NTSC) and they have both the same problem: the drum
> seems to turn too quikly, the image is poor and always desynchronized.
> I give one to be repaired (basically to check the guides) but it does
> not change anything. Any idea ?

I am not sure what you mean, so I will offer this idea: your PAL TV set
might be trying to play the video at ~25 frames/second and your NTSC
camcorders might be (in fact surely are) outputting the video at ~30
frames/second. Plus, of course, the different numbers of lines per
frame...

Have you tried outputting the video from the camcorders to a TV
absolutely *known* to be able to play NTSC? For example, an American TV
set.

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Gene E. Bloch (Gino)
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Author
3 Sep 2007 4:45 PM
Bill Fright
verd***@rocketmail.com wrote:
> Hello,
> I have two EVC-X10 Video-8 camcorders (I live in France but they came
> from USA, so in NTSC) and they have both the same problem: the drum
> seems to turn too quikly, the image is poor and always desynchronized.
> I give one to be repaired (basically to check the guides) but it does
> not change anything. Any idea ?
>

does this problem occur on a external monitor or the viewfinder on the
camera?
Author
4 Sep 2007 11:05 AM
verdier
On 3 sep, 18:45, Bill Fright <billfri***@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> verd***@rocketmail.com wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I have twoEVC-X10Video-8 camcorders (I live in France but they came
> > from USA, so in NTSC) and they have both the same problem: the drum
> > seems to turn too quikly, the image is poor and always desynchronized.
> > I give one to be repaired (basically to check the guides) but it does
> > not change anything. Any idea ?
>
> does this problem occur on a external monitor or the viewfinder on the
> camera?

The image is fine on a external monitor (black & white on the TV) and
on the viewfinder. About the PAL (50 Hz)/NTSC (60 Hz), I am a bit
disappointed because I have also a EVO-9100 (V8 and Hi8) and a CCD-V9
(V8) which works fine (that is I have a black & white image on the
TV) ...
Author
4 Sep 2007 11:47 PM
Bill Fright
verd***@rocketmail.com wrote:
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> On 3 sep, 18:45, Bill Fright <billfri***@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> verd***@rocketmail.com wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I have twoEVC-X10Video-8 camcorders (I live in France but they came
>>> from USA, so in NTSC) and they have both the same problem: the drum
>>> seems to turn too quikly, the image is poor and always desynchronized.
>>> I give one to be repaired (basically to check the guides) but it does
>>> not change anything. Any idea ?
>> does this problem occur on a external monitor or the viewfinder on the
>> camera?
>
> The image is fine on a external monitor (black & white on the TV) and
> on the viewfinder. About the PAL (50 Hz)/NTSC (60 Hz), I am a bit
> disappointed because I have also a EVO-9100 (V8 and Hi8) and a CCD-V9
> (V8) which works fine (that is I have a black & white image on the
> TV) ...
>


sorry but I'm still confused. Does the image look fine in the viewfinder?
Author
5 Sep 2007 3:14 PM
verdier
On 5 sep, 01:47, Bill Fright <billfri***@austin.rr.com> wrote:
Show quote
> verd***@rocketmail.com wrote:
> > On 3 sep, 18:45, Bill Fright <billfri***@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> >> verd***@rocketmail.com wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> I have twoEVC-X10Video-8 camcorders (I live in France but they came
> >>> from USA, so in NTSC) and they have both the same problem: the drum
> >>> seems to turn too quikly, the image is poor and always desynchronized.
> >>> I give one to be repaired (basically to check the guides) but it does
> >>> not change anything. Any idea ?
> >> does this problem occur on a external monitor or the viewfinder on the
> >> camera?
>
> > The image is fine on a external monitor (black & white on the TV) and
> > on the viewfinder. About the PAL (50 Hz)/NTSC (60 Hz), I am a bit
> > disappointed because I have also a EVO-9100 (V8 and Hi8) and a CCD-V9
> > (V8) which works fine (that is I have a black & white image on the
> > TV) ...
>
> sorry but I'm still confused. Does the image look fine in the viewfinder?

Yes, no problem in the viewfinder, as on the TV (black& white of
course)
Author
6 Sep 2007 11:26 AM
Bill Fright
verd***@rocketmail.com wrote:
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> On 5 sep, 01:47, Bill Fright <billfri***@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> verd***@rocketmail.com wrote:
>>> On 3 sep, 18:45, Bill Fright <billfri***@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> verd***@rocketmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I have twoEVC-X10Video-8 camcorders (I live in France but they came
>>>>> from USA, so in NTSC) and they have both the same problem: the drum
>>>>> seems to turn too quikly, the image is poor and always desynchronized.
>>>>> I give one to be repaired (basically to check the guides) but it does
>>>>> not change anything. Any idea ?
>>>> does this problem occur on a external monitor or the viewfinder on the
>>>> camera?
>>> The image is fine on a external monitor (black & white on the TV) and
>>> on the viewfinder. About the PAL (50 Hz)/NTSC (60 Hz), I am a bit
>>> disappointed because I have also a EVO-9100 (V8 and Hi8) and a CCD-V9
>>> (V8) which works fine (that is I have a black & white image on the
>>> TV) ...
>> sorry but I'm still confused. Does the image look fine in the viewfinder?
>
> Yes, no problem in the viewfinder, as on the TV (black& white of
> course)
>

B&W of course?

If you have color video that looks fine in the viewfinder I'd suggest
the heads are working properly.

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