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Author
4 Jul 2007 10:54 PM
itchyneebanshee
Hi,

Can someone give me a quick difference on video quality
between the Kodak camera that shoots 30fps 640x480
and the Canon Eleura 100? I need something that can
transfer via USB into the computer and then be edited
easily.

thx

itchy

Author
5 Jul 2007 5:19 AM
dcasperson
You are limiting yourself to failure by specifying USB.   It is too
slow to pass 30fps 640x480.   You need firewire for that task.
Camcorders can't wait for a slow interface before they send the next
frame.    The computer must be able to stay ahead of the camcorder and
firewire is needed if you are going to do that.    Get yourself a
firewire card and forget about using USB.

Dave

On Jul 4, 5:54 pm, itchyneebans***@hotmail.com wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> Can someone give me a quick difference on video quality
> between the Kodak camera that shoots 30fps 640x480
> and the Canon Eleura 100? I need something that can
> transfer via USB into the computer and then be edited
> easily.
>
> thx
>
> itchy
Author
5 Jul 2007 7:57 AM
itchyneebanshee
On Jul 5, 1:19 am, dcasper***@email.com wrote:
> You are limiting yourself to failure by specifying USB.   It is too
> slow to pass 30fps 640x480.   You need firewire for that task.
> [...]

[...]

Hi Dave,

I do have a firewire card, however isn't USB 2.0 fast enough?
Btw, did you have any advice about the 30fps Kodak vs Eleura?
So you are saying that the Canon is firewire, correct?

thx

itchy
Author
5 Jul 2007 4:20 PM
PTravel
<itchyneebans***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Can someone give me a quick difference on video quality
> between the Kodak camera that shoots 30fps 640x480
> and the Canon Eleura 100? I need something that can
> transfer via USB into the computer and then be edited
> easily.
>
> thx
>
> itchy

I'm not familiar with the specific Kodak but, as a rule, still cameras take
lousy video.  Some concerns:

1.  The standard for digital video (and the standard expected by most
editing software, particularly consumer packages) is 720 x 480 pixels
(NTSC), not 640 x 480.

2.  The standard frame rate for NTSC is 29.97 frames per second, not 30.
And, yes, it makes a difference.

3.  What compression codec is used by the Kodak?  Compression codec is
everything -- high compression rates means lousy video.  Proprietary codecs
means you will not be able to easily edit your video.


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Author
7 Jul 2007 5:43 AM
itchyneebanshee
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On Jul 5, 12:20 pm, "PTravel" <ptra***@travelersvideo.com> wrote:
> <itchyneebans***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1183589670.043027.170870@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hi,
>
> > Can someone give me a quick difference on video quality
> > between the Kodak camera that shoots 30fps 640x480
> > and the Canon Eleura 100? I need something that can
> > transfer via USB into the computer and then be edited
> > easily.
>
> > thx
>
> > itchy
>
> I'm not familiar with the specific Kodak but, as a rule, still cameras take
> lousy video.  Some concerns:
>
> 1.  The standard for digital video (and the standard expected by most
> editing software, particularly consumer packages) is 720 x 480 pixels
> (NTSC), not 640 x 480.
>
> 2.  The standard frame rate for NTSC is 29.97 frames per second, not 30.
> And, yes, it makes a difference.
>
> 3.  What compression codec is used by the Kodak?  Compression codec is
> everything -- high compression rates means lousy video.  Proprietary codecs
> means you will not be able to easily edit your video.
>
>
>
> - Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The Kodak site says NTSC or PAL, selectable dock connector, and that
it makes quicktime .mov files. Not sure about the quality of the codec
or if
quicktime imples a standard codec quality. Probably the Eleura would
be the best bet at this point. Would be nice to have a digicam that
took high
pixel stills though for under 500$.

thx,

itchy

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