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for demanding amateur, what computer needed for editing video?I consider myself a demanding amateur at a lot of things. I intend this year
to buy a high quality, though not professional level video camera- one that I will move the imagery to a computer for editing. I intend to first buy a new computer which will be powerful enough for my demanding amateur editing needs but not more powerful. Should I bother with a duel CPU system or just one of the faster CPUs now available? Does editing software take advantage of these duel CPUs? Joe
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"Joe" <a**@xyz.com> wrote in message It depends on the editing software that you use. Adobe Premiere Pro can news:12ujmotg7bk8jc3@corp.supernews.com... >I consider myself a demanding amateur at a lot of things. I intend this >year to buy a high quality, though not professional level video camera- one >that I will move the imagery to a computer for editing. > > I intend to first buy a new computer which will be powerful enough for my > demanding amateur editing needs but not more powerful. > > Should I bother with a duel CPU system or just one of the faster CPUs now > available? Does editing software take advantage of these duel CPUs? > > Joe > take advantage of dual CPUs, as well as dual hyperthreaded chips, e.g. P4s and dual-core chips. I edit in Premiere Pro on a 3.1 GHz P4 and it's fine. CPU power is realized as shorter render times -- if you're going to do a lot of compositing, buy the most powerful computer you can. "PTravel" <ptra***@travelersvideo.com> writes: In addition, apparently Premiere Pro 2.0 is able to use the GPU>It depends on the editing software that you use. Adobe Premiere Pro can >take advantage of dual CPUs, as well as dual hyperthreaded chips, e.g. P4s >and dual-core chips. I edit in Premiere Pro on a 3.1 GHz P4 and it's fine. >CPU power is realized as shorter render times -- if you're going to do a lot >of compositing, buy the most powerful computer you can. (graphics processing unit) on higher-end graphics cards to do some expensive rendering tasks. This is very promising, because current GPUs already have something like 10 times the processing power of CPUs (if you can fit your task to what GPUs do well) and are improving at a much faster rate than CPUs. Dave Good suggestions- I'll probably get another Dell, only because I like the
ease of choosing components on their web site- and so far, I've had good luck with them- I like their 24" flat/wide screen monitor. I'm not sure which of the possible graphic cards would be considered a "higher-end" card. In the '90s I was on top of this stuff- but I've lost touch and it doesn't take long before you have no clue. <G> Joe Show quote "Dave Martindale" <da***@cs.ubc.ca> wrote in message news:esdnjh$5t1$3@swain.cs.ubc.ca... > "PTravel" <ptra***@travelersvideo.com> writes: > >>It depends on the editing software that you use. Adobe Premiere Pro can >>take advantage of dual CPUs, as well as dual hyperthreaded chips, e.g. P4s >>and dual-core chips. I edit in Premiere Pro on a 3.1 GHz P4 and it's >>fine. >>CPU power is realized as shorter render times -- if you're going to do a >>lot >>of compositing, buy the most powerful computer you can. > > In addition, apparently Premiere Pro 2.0 is able to use the GPU > (graphics processing unit) on higher-end graphics cards to do some > expensive rendering tasks. This is very promising, because current GPUs > already have something like 10 times the processing power of CPUs (if > you can fit your task to what GPUs do well) and are improving at a much > faster rate than CPUs. > > Dave "Joe" <a**@xyz.com> wrote in message For video editing, you generally do not want to rely on a computer monitor. news:12ulilbqn05k76@corp.supernews.com... > Good suggestions- I'll probably get another Dell, only because I like the > ease of choosing components on their web site- and so far, I've had good > luck with them- I like their 24" flat/wide screen monitor. I'm not sure > which of the possible graphic cards would be considered a "higher-end" > card. > > In the '90s I was on top of this stuff- but I've lost touch and it doesn't > take long before you have no clue. <G> > > Joe The gamma is very different from a television monitor, and it may show artifacts were none exist, or fail to show artifacts where they do. I have an old miniDV camcorder that I use for monitoring. It takes a DV feed (via the firewire/1394 card) from Premiere and does AV pass-through, feeding a broadcast monitor on my editing bench. This gives me real-time television video monitoring without having to rely on the small and inaccurate preview window created by the software. Television video monitoring is particularly important when you start doing things like color and gamma correction, keying, and titling. Show quote > > > "Dave Martindale" <da***@cs.ubc.ca> wrote in message > news:esdnjh$5t1$3@swain.cs.ubc.ca... >> "PTravel" <ptra***@travelersvideo.com> writes: >> >>>It depends on the editing software that you use. Adobe Premiere Pro can >>>take advantage of dual CPUs, as well as dual hyperthreaded chips, e.g. >>>P4s >>>and dual-core chips. I edit in Premiere Pro on a 3.1 GHz P4 and it's >>>fine. >>>CPU power is realized as shorter render times -- if you're going to do a >>>lot >>>of compositing, buy the most powerful computer you can. >> >> In addition, apparently Premiere Pro 2.0 is able to use the GPU >> (graphics processing unit) on higher-end graphics cards to do some >> expensive rendering tasks. This is very promising, because current GPUs >> already have something like 10 times the processing power of CPUs (if >> you can fit your task to what GPUs do well) and are improving at a much >> faster rate than CPUs. >> >> Dave > > On 2007-03-03 12:31:21 -0800, "Joe" <a**@xyz.com> said: You should buy the most mighty computer you can, dual cpu's, quad, the > I consider myself a demanding amateur at a lot of things. I intend this year > to buy a high quality, though not professional level video camera- one that > I will move the imagery to a computer for editing. > > I intend to first buy a new computer which will be powerful enough for my > demanding amateur editing needs but not more powerful. > > Should I bother with a duel CPU system or just one of the faster CPUs now > available? Does editing software take advantage of these duel CPUs? most muscle you can throw at it. It's a CPU intensive process, so throw what money you can in that direction. -- Thank you and have a nice day. OK, I'll forgo the Mercedes for the time being and put it all into the
computer. <G> Joe PS: I don't ever think I'll get beyond rank amateur, so I don't really need a super quality camera, computer and editing software, but I do have rather high standards for my hobbies, so I'll go beyond what I really need- besides, computers are cheap today- even the top of the line are cheap compared to most other things. Show quote "gtr" <x**@yyy.zzz> wrote in message news:200703041001338930-xxx@yyyzzz... > On 2007-03-03 12:31:21 -0800, "Joe" <a**@xyz.com> said: > >> I consider myself a demanding amateur at a lot of things. I intend this >> year >> to buy a high quality, though not professional level video camera- one >> that >> I will move the imagery to a computer for editing. >> >> I intend to first buy a new computer which will be powerful enough for my >> demanding amateur editing needs but not more powerful. >> >> Should I bother with a duel CPU system or just one of the faster CPUs now >> available? Does editing software take advantage of these duel CPUs? > > You should buy the most mighty computer you can, dual cpu's, quad, the > most muscle you can throw at it. It's a CPU intensive process, so throw > what money you can in that direction. > -- > Thank you and have a nice day. > On 2007-03-04 13:51:57 -0800, "Joe" <a**@xyz.com> said: That's really my point: no matter what the intent, amateur or > OK, I'll forgo the Mercedes for the time being and put it all into the > computer. <G> > > Joe > PS: I don't ever think I'll get beyond rank amateur, so I don't really need > a super quality camera, computer and editing software, but I do have rather > high standards for my hobbies, so I'll go beyond what I really need- > besides, computers are cheap today- even the top of the line are cheap > compared to most other things. professional, nobody has any interest at staring at a computer while it takes a minute doing every damn task. You don't have to have a professional interest for reasonable or unreasonable impatience. -- Thank you and have a nice day. "Joe" <a**@xyz.com> wrote in message news:12umfs1ct1kdpc7@corp.supernews.com... The output quality in Mini-DV will be the same no matter how> OK, I'll forgo the Mercedes for the time being and put it all into the computer. <G> > > Joe > PS: I don't ever think I'll get beyond rank amateur, so I don't really need a super quality camera, computer and editing software, > but I do have rather high standards for my hobbies, so I'll go beyond what I really need- besides, computers are cheap today- even > the top of the line are cheap compared to most other things. fancy or simple the hardware or software. I prefer to stay with an old tried-and-true machine with Premiere 6 which runs well on it (see www.donferrario.com/ruether/premiere.htm for how I use it - though Windows Movie Maker can work fine also). As mentioned by a poster above, if you are particular about how the finished video will look (I'm surprised by how much pro work goes out without at least color matching between clips), it is useful to put the camcorder in the loop and view with its output what you are doing either on a calibrated TV or on one you know what its errors are (I apply the reverse errors on short clips for viewing on my TV, then restore the sample footage).BTW, I have a spare copy of P-6 for $50 and some excellent Mini-DV camcorders FS at -- www.donferrario.com/ruether/fs-camcorders.htm  
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