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Is firewire to usb cable ok for connecting DV videocamera (firewire) to my PC (usb) ?There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and
elsewhere. Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to firewire PCI card installed in PC, for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard disk ? One offer from eBay is the following: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cable-C13_W0QQitemZ170076786016QQihZ007QQcategoryZ51054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem thanks, Darius
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On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2***@yahoo.ie> wrote: This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and > elsewhere. > Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to > firewire PCI card installed in PC, > for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard > disk ? > > One offer from eBay is the following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cable-C... > > thanks, > > Darius USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE see the following link: http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll? sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp= Darius On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this:
Show quote > On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2***@yahoo.ie> wrote: I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also >> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and >> elsewhere. >> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to >> firewire PCI card installed in PC, >> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard >> disk ? >> >> One offer from eBay is the >> following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cable-C... >> >> thanks, >> >> Darius > > > This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name > > USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE > > see the following link: > http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll? > sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb > +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc > %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo > %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp= > > Darius doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG. Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work or if it damages your equipment. -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251 (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") On Feb 3, 11:41 pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote:
Show quote > On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: Ok, my friend. I can buy it as I intend to buy it> > > > > On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2***@yahoo.ie> wrote: > >> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and > >> elsewhere. > >> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to > >> firewire PCI card installed in PC, > >> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard > >> disk ? > > >> One offer from eBay is the > >> following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cable-C... > > >> thanks, > > >> Darius > > > This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name > > > USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE > > > see the following link: > > http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll? > > sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb > > +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc > > %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo > > %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp= > > > Darius > > I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also > doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG. > > Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work or > if it damages your equipment. > > -- > Gene E. Bloch (Gino) > letters617blochg3251 > (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") but need to know first if it is ok for connecting DV cam (4-pin firewire) with PC (usb). I can test it with one cam only but still hope to get a response from a computer shop, video shop, having alread tested it with different video cams. One seller said it didn't work with his Sony DV cam. Thanks. Darius On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this:
Show quote > On Feb 3, 11:41 pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote: I guess my sarcasm was unclear.>> On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: >> >> >> >>> On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2***@yahoo.ie> wrote: >>>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and >>>> elsewhere. >>>> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to >>>> firewire PCI card installed in PC, >>>> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard >>>> disk ? >> >>>> One offer from eBay is the >>>> following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cable-C... >>>> thanks, >> >>>> Darius >> >>> This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name >>> USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE >>> see the following link: >>> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll? >>> sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb >>> +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc >>> %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo >>> %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp= >>> Darius >> >> I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also >> doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG. >> >> Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work or >> if it damages your equipment. >> >> -- >> Gene E. Bloch (Gino) >> letters617blochg3251 >> (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") > > Ok, my friend. I can buy it as I intend to buy it > but need to know first if it is ok for connecting DV cam (4-pin > firewire) with PC (usb). > I can test it with one cam only but still hope to get a response from > a computer shop, video shop, having alread tested it with different > video cams. > One seller said it didn't work with his Sony DV cam. > Thanks. > > Darius 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire or vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the pictures in your links. 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to a FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one or both ends. -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251 (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") On Feb 3, 11:41 pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote:
Show quote > On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: Ok, my friend. I can buy it as I intend to buy it> > > > > On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2***@yahoo.ie> wrote: > >> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and > >> elsewhere. > >> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to > >> firewire PCI card installed in PC, > >> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard > >> disk ? > > >> One offer from eBay is the > >> following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cable-C... > > >> thanks, > > >> Darius > > > This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name > > > USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE > > > see the following link: > > http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll? > > sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb > > +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc > > %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo > > %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp= > > > Darius > > I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also > doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG. > > Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work or > if it damages your equipment. > > -- > Gene E. Bloch (Gino) > letters617blochg3251 > (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") but need to know first if it is ok for connecting DV cam (4-pin firewire) with PC (usb). I can test it with one cam only but still hope to get a response from a computer shop, video shop, having alread tested it with different video cams. One seller said it didn't work with his Sony DV cam. Thanks. Darius On Feb 3, 11:41 pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote:
Show quote > On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: Ok, my friend. I can buy it as I intend to buy it> > > > > On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2***@yahoo.ie> wrote: > >> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and > >> elsewhere. > >> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to > >> firewire PCI card installed in PC, > >> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard > >> disk ? > > >> One offer from eBay is the > >> following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cable-C... > > >> thanks, > > >> Darius > > > This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name > > > USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE > > > see the following link: > > http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll? > > sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb > > +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc > > %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo > > %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp= > > > Darius > > I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also > doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG. > > Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work or > if it damages your equipment. > > -- > Gene E. Bloch (Gino) > letters617blochg3251 > (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") but need to know first if it is ok for connecting DV cam (4-pin firewire) with PC (usb). I can test it with one cam only but still hope to get a response from a computer shop, video shop, having alread tested it with different video cams. One seller said it didn't work with his Sony DV cam. Thanks. Darius On Feb 4, 12:10 am, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote:
Show quote > On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: Ok. You are right.> > > > > On Feb 3, 11:41 pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: > > >>> On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2***@yahoo.ie> wrote: > >>>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and > >>>> elsewhere. > >>>> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to > >>>> firewire PCI card installed in PC, > >>>> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard > >>>> disk ? > > >>>> One offer from eBay is the > >>>> following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cable-C... > >>>> thanks, > > >>>> Darius > > >>> This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name > >>> USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE > >>> see the following link: > >>> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll? > >>> sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb > >>> +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc > >>> %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo > >>> %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp= > >>> Darius > > >> I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also > >> doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG. > > >> Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work or > >> if it damages your equipment. > > >> -- > >> Gene E. Bloch (Gino) > >> letters617blochg3251 > >> (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") > > > Ok, my friend. I can buy it as I intend to buy it > > but need to know first if it is ok for connecting DV cam (4-pin > > firewire) with PC (usb). > > I can test it with one cam only but still hope to get a response from > > a computer shop, video shop, having alread tested it with different > > video cams. > > One seller said it didn't work with his Sony DV cam. > > Thanks. > > > Darius > > I guess my sarcasm was unclear. > > 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire > or vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the pictures > in your links. > > 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to > a FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one > or both ends. > > -- > Gene E. Bloch (Gino) > letters617blochg3251 > (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") And what about the WebCamDV software. But, frankly speaking, I still don't see any reason, why manufactures and sellers market such a firewire 2 usb conversion cable, advertised as for connecting miniDV video cam to PC usb port. Is it a hoax ? Thanks. Darius On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this:
Show quote > On Feb 3, 11:41 pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote: I guess my sarcasm was unclear.>> On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: >> >> >> >>> On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2***@yahoo.ie> wrote: >>>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and >>>> elsewhere. >>>> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to >>>> firewire PCI card installed in PC, >>>> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard >>>> disk ? >> >>>> One offer from eBay is the >>>> following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cable-C... >>>> thanks, >> >>>> Darius >> >>> This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name >>> USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE >>> see the following link: >>> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll? >>> sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb >>> +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc >>> %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo >>> %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp= >>> Darius >> >> I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also >> doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG. >> >> Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work or >> if it damages your equipment. >> >> -- >> Gene E. Bloch (Gino) >> letters617blochg3251 >> (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") > > Ok, my friend. I can buy it as I intend to buy it > but need to know first if it is ok for connecting DV cam (4-pin > firewire) with PC (usb). > I can test it with one cam only but still hope to get a response from > a computer shop, video shop, having alread tested it with different > video cams. > One seller said it didn't work with his Sony DV cam. > Thanks. > > Darius 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire or vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the pictures in your links. 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to a FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one or both ends. -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251 (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this:
Show quote > On Feb 3, 11:41 pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote: I guess my sarcasm was unclear.>> On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: >> >> >> >>> On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2***@yahoo.ie> wrote: >>>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and >>>> elsewhere. >>>> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to >>>> firewire PCI card installed in PC, >>>> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard >>>> disk ? >> >>>> One offer from eBay is the >>>> following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cable-C... >>>> thanks, >> >>>> Darius >> >>> This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name >>> USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE >>> see the following link: >>> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll? >>> sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb >>> +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc >>> %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo >>> %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp= >>> Darius >> >> I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also >> doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG. >> >> Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work or >> if it damages your equipment. >> >> -- >> Gene E. Bloch (Gino) >> letters617blochg3251 >> (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") > > Ok, my friend. I can buy it as I intend to buy it > but need to know first if it is ok for connecting DV cam (4-pin > firewire) with PC (usb). > I can test it with one cam only but still hope to get a response from > a computer shop, video shop, having alread tested it with different > video cams. > One seller said it didn't work with his Sony DV cam. > Thanks. > > Darius 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire or vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the pictures in your links. 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to a FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one or both ends. -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251 (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")
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"Gene E. Bloch" <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote in message It isn't passive. There's curcuitry in the cable connectors.news:mn.1b8e7d7222515b60.1980@nobody.invalid... > On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: >> On Feb 3, 11:41 pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote: >>> On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2***@yahoo.ie> wrote: >>>>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and >>>>> elsewhere. >>>>> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to >>>>> firewire PCI card installed in PC, >>>>> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard >>>>> disk ? >>> >>>>> One offer from eBay is the >>>>> following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cable-C... >>>>> thanks, >>> >>>>> Darius >>> >>>> This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name >>>> USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE >>>> see the following link: >>>> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll? >>>> sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb >>>> +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc >>>> %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo >>>> %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp= >>>> Darius >>> >>> I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also >>> doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG. >>> >>> Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work or >>> if it damages your equipment. >>> >>> -- >>> Gene E. Bloch (Gino) >>> letters617blochg3251 >>> (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") >> >> Ok, my friend. I can buy it as I intend to buy it >> but need to know first if it is ok for connecting DV cam (4-pin >> firewire) with PC (usb). >> I can test it with one cam only but still hope to get a response from >> a computer shop, video shop, having alread tested it with different >> video cams. >> One seller said it didn't work with his Sony DV cam. >> Thanks. >> >> Darius > > I guess my sarcasm was unclear. > > 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire or > vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the pictures in > your links. > > 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to a > FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one or > both ends. > Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two protocols are very different. This cable will need a driver and that driver will be the deciding factor as to whether this will work. However, for $199 you can get 5 firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... this would be a waste of time and money. Show quote > -- > Gene E. Bloch (Gino) > letters617blochg3251 > (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") > >
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"Gene E. Bloch" <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote in message It isn't passive. There's curcuitry in the cable connectors.news:mn.1b8e7d7222515b60.1980@nobody.invalid... > On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: >> On Feb 3, 11:41 pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote: >>> On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2***@yahoo.ie> wrote: >>>>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and >>>>> elsewhere. >>>>> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to >>>>> firewire PCI card installed in PC, >>>>> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard >>>>> disk ? >>> >>>>> One offer from eBay is the >>>>> following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cable-C... >>>>> thanks, >>> >>>>> Darius >>> >>>> This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name >>>> USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE >>>> see the following link: >>>> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll? >>>> sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb >>>> +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc >>>> %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo >>>> %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp= >>>> Darius >>> >>> I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also >>> doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG. >>> >>> Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work or >>> if it damages your equipment. >>> >>> -- >>> Gene E. Bloch (Gino) >>> letters617blochg3251 >>> (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") >> >> Ok, my friend. I can buy it as I intend to buy it >> but need to know first if it is ok for connecting DV cam (4-pin >> firewire) with PC (usb). >> I can test it with one cam only but still hope to get a response from >> a computer shop, video shop, having alread tested it with different >> video cams. >> One seller said it didn't work with his Sony DV cam. >> Thanks. >> >> Darius > > I guess my sarcasm was unclear. > > 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire or > vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the pictures in > your links. > > 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to a > FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one or > both ends. > Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two protocols are very different. This cable will need a driver and that driver will be the deciding factor as to whether this will work. However, for $199 you can get 5 firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... this would be a waste of time and money. Show quote > -- > Gene E. Bloch (Gino) > letters617blochg3251 > (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") > >
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"Gene E. Bloch" <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote in message It isn't passive. There's curcuitry in the cable connectors.news:mn.1b8e7d7222515b60.1980@nobody.invalid... > On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: >> On Feb 3, 11:41 pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote: >>> On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2***@yahoo.ie> wrote: >>>>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and >>>>> elsewhere. >>>>> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to >>>>> firewire PCI card installed in PC, >>>>> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard >>>>> disk ? >>> >>>>> One offer from eBay is the >>>>> following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cable-C... >>>>> thanks, >>> >>>>> Darius >>> >>>> This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name >>>> USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE >>>> see the following link: >>>> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll? >>>> sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb >>>> +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc >>>> %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo >>>> %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp= >>>> Darius >>> >>> I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also >>> doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG. >>> >>> Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work or >>> if it damages your equipment. >>> >>> -- >>> Gene E. Bloch (Gino) >>> letters617blochg3251 >>> (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") >> >> Ok, my friend. I can buy it as I intend to buy it >> but need to know first if it is ok for connecting DV cam (4-pin >> firewire) with PC (usb). >> I can test it with one cam only but still hope to get a response from >> a computer shop, video shop, having alread tested it with different >> video cams. >> One seller said it didn't work with his Sony DV cam. >> Thanks. >> >> Darius > > I guess my sarcasm was unclear. > > 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire or > vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the pictures in > your links. > > 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to a > FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one or > both ends. > Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two protocols are very different. This cable will need a driver and that driver will be the deciding factor as to whether this will work. However, for $199 you can get 5 firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... this would be a waste of time and money. Show quote > -- > Gene E. Bloch (Gino) > letters617blochg3251 > (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") > > "Elan Magavi" wrote ...
> Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP.> protocols are very different. This cable will need a driver and that > driver will be the deciding factor as to whether this will work. > However, for $199 you can get 5 firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... > this would be a waste of time and money. That is less than US$ 2 "Elan Magavi" wrote ...
> Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP.> protocols are very different. This cable will need a driver and that > driver will be the deciding factor as to whether this will work. > However, for $199 you can get 5 firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... > this would be a waste of time and money. That is less than US$ 2 "Elan Magavi" wrote ...
> Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP.> protocols are very different. This cable will need a driver and that > driver will be the deciding factor as to whether this will work. > However, for $199 you can get 5 firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... > this would be a waste of time and money. That is less than US$ 2 "Richard Crowley" <rcrow***@xpr7t.net> wrote in message the "buy it now" was $199news:12sahu2p3183fec@corp.supernews.com... > > "Elan Magavi" wrote ... > >> Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two >> protocols are very different. This cable will need a driver and that >> driver will be the deciding factor as to whether this will work. However, >> for $199 you can get 5 firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... this would be >> a waste of time and money. > > $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP. > That is less than US$ 2 Show quote > "Richard Crowley" <rcrow***@xpr7t.net> wrote in message the "buy it now" was $199news:12sahu2p3183fec@corp.supernews.com... > > "Elan Magavi" wrote ... > >> Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two >> protocols are very different. This cable will need a driver and that >> driver will be the deciding factor as to whether this will work. However, >> for $199 you can get 5 firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... this would be >> a waste of time and money. > > $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP. > That is less than US$ 2 Show quote > "Richard Crowley" <rcrow***@xpr7t.net> wrote in message the "buy it now" was $199news:12sahu2p3183fec@corp.supernews.com... > > "Elan Magavi" wrote ... > >> Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two >> protocols are very different. This cable will need a driver and that >> driver will be the deciding factor as to whether this will work. However, >> for $199 you can get 5 firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... this would be >> a waste of time and money. > > $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP. > That is less than US$ 2 Show quote > "Elan Magavi" wrote ...
> "Richard Crowley" wrote ... Your computer is seriously broken.>> $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP. >> That is less than US$ 2 > > the "buy it now" was $199 I am looking at the page right now (Ebay # 140081365985) and it says... "Buy It Now price: GBP 0.99 (Approximately US$ 1.95)" "Elan Magavi" wrote ...
> "Richard Crowley" wrote ... Your computer is seriously broken.>> $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP. >> That is less than US$ 2 > > the "buy it now" was $199 I am looking at the page right now (Ebay # 140081365985) and it says... "Buy It Now price: GBP 0.99 (Approximately US$ 1.95)" "Elan Magavi" wrote ...
> "Richard Crowley" wrote ... Your computer is seriously broken.>> $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP. >> That is less than US$ 2 > > the "buy it now" was $199 I am looking at the page right now (Ebay # 140081365985) and it says... "Buy It Now price: GBP 0.99 (Approximately US$ 1.95)" "Richard Crowley" <rcrow***@xpr7t.net> wrote in message naw... there's an ad for the cable at the top of the page. Says "But it news:12sc7fa560b2002@corp.supernews.com... > "Elan Magavi" wrote ... >> "Richard Crowley" wrote ... >>> $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP. >>> That is less than US$ 2 >> >> the "buy it now" was $199 > > Your computer is seriously broken. Now": US $199.00 HOWEVER, it DOES say 100 pcs.. Which I completely missed. Doh! Show quote > > I am looking at the page right now (Ebay # 140081365985) > and it says... > > "Buy It Now price: GBP 0.99 (Approximately US$ 1.95)" "Richard Crowley" <rcrow***@xpr7t.net> wrote in message naw... there's an ad for the cable at the top of the page. Says "But it news:12sc7fa560b2002@corp.supernews.com... > "Elan Magavi" wrote ... >> "Richard Crowley" wrote ... >>> $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP. >>> That is less than US$ 2 >> >> the "buy it now" was $199 > > Your computer is seriously broken. Now": US $199.00 HOWEVER, it DOES say 100 pcs.. Which I completely missed. Doh! Show quote > > I am looking at the page right now (Ebay # 140081365985) > and it says... > > "Buy It Now price: GBP 0.99 (Approximately US$ 1.95)" "Richard Crowley" <rcrow***@xpr7t.net> wrote in message naw... there's an ad for the cable at the top of the page. Says "But it news:12sc7fa560b2002@corp.supernews.com... > "Elan Magavi" wrote ... >> "Richard Crowley" wrote ... >>> $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP. >>> That is less than US$ 2 >> >> the "buy it now" was $199 > > Your computer is seriously broken. Now": US $199.00 HOWEVER, it DOES say 100 pcs.. Which I completely missed. Doh! Show quote > > I am looking at the page right now (Ebay # 140081365985) > and it says... > > "Buy It Now price: GBP 0.99 (Approximately US$ 1.95)"
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"Elan Magavi" <Elan@nomailnospam.com> wrote in message "Buy it now" ... My computer may actually BE broekn. :}news:OJpxh.16383$ji1.187@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net... > > "Richard Crowley" <rcrow***@xpr7t.net> wrote in message > news:12sc7fa560b2002@corp.supernews.com... >> "Elan Magavi" wrote ... >>> "Richard Crowley" wrote ... >>>> $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP. >>>> That is less than US$ 2 >>> >>> the "buy it now" was $199 >> >> Your computer is seriously broken. > > naw... there's an ad for the cable at the top of the page. Says "But it > Now": US $199.00
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"Elan Magavi" <Elan@nomailnospam.com> wrote in message "Buy it now" ... My computer may actually BE broekn. :}news:OJpxh.16383$ji1.187@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net... > > "Richard Crowley" <rcrow***@xpr7t.net> wrote in message > news:12sc7fa560b2002@corp.supernews.com... >> "Elan Magavi" wrote ... >>> "Richard Crowley" wrote ... >>>> $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP. >>>> That is less than US$ 2 >>> >>> the "buy it now" was $199 >> >> Your computer is seriously broken. > > naw... there's an ad for the cable at the top of the page. Says "But it > Now": US $199.00
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"Elan Magavi" <Elan@nomailnospam.com> wrote in message "Buy it now" ... My computer may actually BE broekn. :}news:OJpxh.16383$ji1.187@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net... > > "Richard Crowley" <rcrow***@xpr7t.net> wrote in message > news:12sc7fa560b2002@corp.supernews.com... >> "Elan Magavi" wrote ... >>> "Richard Crowley" wrote ... >>>> $199? Huh? The auction on the URL provided says 1 GBP. >>>> That is less than US$ 2 >>> >>> the "buy it now" was $199 >> >> Your computer is seriously broken. > > naw... there's an ad for the cable at the top of the page. Says "But it > Now": US $199.00
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Ï "Elan Magavi" <Elan@nomailnospam.com> Ýãñáøå óôï ìÞíõìá following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cablnews:cBbxh.7587$O02.6164@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net... > > "Gene E. Bloch" <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote in message > news:mn.1b8e7d7222515b60.1980@nobody.invalid... > > On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: > >> On Feb 3, 11:41 pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote: > >>> On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2***@yahoo.ie> wrote: > >>>>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and > >>>>> elsewhere. > >>>>> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to > >>>>> firewire PCI card installed in PC, > >>>>> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard > >>>>> disk ? > >>> > >>>>> One offer from eBay is the > >>>>> e-C... > >>>>> thanks, %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop> >>> > >>>>> Darius > >>> > >>>> This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name > >>>> USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE > >>>> see the following link: > >>>> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll? > >>>> sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb > >>>> +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc > >>>> =1%26fsoo Show quote > >>>> %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp= Not five, ten.I got a cliptech firewire card complete with cable and ulead> >>>> Darius > >>> > >>> I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also > >>> doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG. > >>> > >>> Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work or > >>> if it damages your equipment. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Gene E. Bloch (Gino) > >>> letters617blochg3251 > >>> (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") > >> > >> Ok, my friend. I can buy it as I intend to buy it > >> but need to know first if it is ok for connecting DV cam (4-pin > >> firewire) with PC (usb). > >> I can test it with one cam only but still hope to get a response from > >> a computer shop, video shop, having alread tested it with different > >> video cams. > >> One seller said it didn't work with his Sony DV cam. > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Darius > > > > I guess my sarcasm was unclear. > > > > 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire or > > vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the pictures in > > your links. > > > > 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to a > > FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one or > > both ends. > > > > It isn't passive. There's curcuitry in the cable connectors. > > Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two > protocols are very different. This cable will need a driver and that driver > will be the deciding factor as to whether this will work. However, for $199 > you can get 5 firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... this would be a waste of > time and money. > video software for 19 euros.The claim being able to connect USB with IEEE 1394 is adjacent to being able to connect an 110 V apparatus on a 220 V outlet:-pAmd since delicate and expensive electronics are involved, I wouldn't recommend it.It is also very expensive for $199 > > > > > > -- -- Tzortzakakis Dimitrios major in electrical engineering mechanized infantry reservist dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
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Ï "Elan Magavi" <Elan@nomailnospam.com> Ýãñáøå óôï ìÞíõìá following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cablnews:cBbxh.7587$O02.6164@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net... > > "Gene E. Bloch" <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote in message > news:mn.1b8e7d7222515b60.1980@nobody.invalid... > > On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: > >> On Feb 3, 11:41 pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote: > >>> On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2***@yahoo.ie> wrote: > >>>>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and > >>>>> elsewhere. > >>>>> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to > >>>>> firewire PCI card installed in PC, > >>>>> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard > >>>>> disk ? > >>> > >>>>> One offer from eBay is the > >>>>> e-C... > >>>>> thanks, %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop> >>> > >>>>> Darius > >>> > >>>> This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name > >>>> USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE > >>>> see the following link: > >>>> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll? > >>>> sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb > >>>> +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc > >>>> =1%26fsoo Show quote > >>>> %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp= Not five, ten.I got a cliptech firewire card complete with cable and ulead> >>>> Darius > >>> > >>> I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also > >>> doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG. > >>> > >>> Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work or > >>> if it damages your equipment. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Gene E. Bloch (Gino) > >>> letters617blochg3251 > >>> (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") > >> > >> Ok, my friend. I can buy it as I intend to buy it > >> but need to know first if it is ok for connecting DV cam (4-pin > >> firewire) with PC (usb). > >> I can test it with one cam only but still hope to get a response from > >> a computer shop, video shop, having alread tested it with different > >> video cams. > >> One seller said it didn't work with his Sony DV cam. > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Darius > > > > I guess my sarcasm was unclear. > > > > 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire or > > vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the pictures in > > your links. > > > > 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to a > > FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one or > > both ends. > > > > It isn't passive. There's curcuitry in the cable connectors. > > Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two > protocols are very different. This cable will need a driver and that driver > will be the deciding factor as to whether this will work. However, for $199 > you can get 5 firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... this would be a waste of > time and money. > video software for 19 euros.The claim being able to connect USB with IEEE 1394 is adjacent to being able to connect an 110 V apparatus on a 220 V outlet:-pAmd since delicate and expensive electronics are involved, I wouldn't recommend it.It is also very expensive for $199 > > > > > > -- -- Tzortzakakis Dimitrios major in electrical engineering mechanized infantry reservist dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
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Ï "Elan Magavi" <Elan@nomailnospam.com> Ýãñáøå óôï ìÞíõìá following:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cablnews:cBbxh.7587$O02.6164@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net... > > "Gene E. Bloch" <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote in message > news:mn.1b8e7d7222515b60.1980@nobody.invalid... > > On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: > >> On Feb 3, 11:41 pm, Gene E. Bloch <spamf...@nobody.invalid> wrote: > >>> On 2/03/2007, la-la posted this: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Feb 3, 9:55 pm, "la-la" <dariusjack2***@yahoo.ie> wrote: > >>>>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and > >>>>> elsewhere. > >>>>> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to > >>>>> firewire PCI card installed in PC, > >>>>> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard > >>>>> disk ? > >>> > >>>>> One offer from eBay is the > >>>>> e-C... > >>>>> thanks, %3D3&sadis=200&fpos=41200&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop> >>> > >>>>> Darius > >>> > >>>> This cable is also listed on eBay and elsewhere under the name > >>>> USB 2.0/1.1 TO IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 4 PIN CONVERTER CABLE > >>>> see the following link: > >>>> http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll? > >>>> sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=firewire+to+usb > >>>> +converter&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc > >>>> =1%26fsoo Show quote > >>>> %3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp= Not five, ten.I got a cliptech firewire card complete with cable and ulead> >>>> Darius > >>> > >>> I'll tell you what - buy it and try it, and if it works *and* also > >>> doesn't damage your camera or computer, let us know on this NG. > >>> > >>> Actually, it would be even better if you told us if it fails to work or > >>> if it damages your equipment. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Gene E. Bloch (Gino) > >>> letters617blochg3251 > >>> (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") > >> > >> Ok, my friend. I can buy it as I intend to buy it > >> but need to know first if it is ok for connecting DV cam (4-pin > >> firewire) with PC (usb). > >> I can test it with one cam only but still hope to get a response from > >> a computer shop, video shop, having alread tested it with different > >> video cams. > >> One seller said it didn't work with his Sony DV cam. > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Darius > > > > I guess my sarcasm was unclear. > > > > 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire or > > vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the pictures in > > your links. > > > > 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to a > > FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one or > > both ends. > > > > It isn't passive. There's curcuitry in the cable connectors. > > Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two > protocols are very different. This cable will need a driver and that driver > will be the deciding factor as to whether this will work. However, for $199 > you can get 5 firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... this would be a waste of > time and money. > video software for 19 euros.The claim being able to connect USB with IEEE 1394 is adjacent to being able to connect an 110 V apparatus on a 220 V outlet:-pAmd since delicate and expensive electronics are involved, I wouldn't recommend it.It is also very expensive for $199 > > > > > > -- -- Tzortzakakis Dimitrios major in electrical engineering mechanized infantry reservist dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr On 2/03/2007, Elan Magavi posted this:
> "Gene E. Bloch" <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote in message [...]> news:mn.1b8e7d7222515b60.1980@nobody.invalid... Show quote >> I guess my sarcasm was unclear. I would hope there is circuitry in the connectors, but (to quote me) "I >> >> 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire or >> vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the pictures in >> your links. >> >> 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to a >> FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one or both >> ends. >> > > It isn't passive. There's curcuitry in the cable connectors. > > Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two protocols > are very different. This cable will need a driver and that driver will be the > deciding factor as to whether this will work. However, for $199 you can get 5 > firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... this would be a waste of time and money. see no hint of" any circuitry in any of the views I looked at. Since circuitry can be very small and USB provides 5V DC power, I could obviously be quite wrong, but I choose to remain doubtful anyway. If anyone actually buys and tries one of these cables (I confess that it won't be me), I'd love to see a report. -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251 (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") On 2/03/2007, Elan Magavi posted this:
> "Gene E. Bloch" <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote in message [...]> news:mn.1b8e7d7222515b60.1980@nobody.invalid... Show quote >> I guess my sarcasm was unclear. I would hope there is circuitry in the connectors, but (to quote me) "I >> >> 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire or >> vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the pictures in >> your links. >> >> 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to a >> FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one or both >> ends. >> > > It isn't passive. There's curcuitry in the cable connectors. > > Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two protocols > are very different. This cable will need a driver and that driver will be the > deciding factor as to whether this will work. However, for $199 you can get 5 > firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... this would be a waste of time and money. see no hint of" any circuitry in any of the views I looked at. Since circuitry can be very small and USB provides 5V DC power, I could obviously be quite wrong, but I choose to remain doubtful anyway. If anyone actually buys and tries one of these cables (I confess that it won't be me), I'd love to see a report. -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251 (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") On 2/03/2007, Elan Magavi posted this:
> "Gene E. Bloch" <spamfree@nobody.invalid> wrote in message [...]> news:mn.1b8e7d7222515b60.1980@nobody.invalid... Show quote >> I guess my sarcasm was unclear. I would hope there is circuitry in the connectors, but (to quote me) "I >> >> 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire or >> vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the pictures in >> your links. >> >> 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to a >> FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one or both >> ends. >> > > It isn't passive. There's curcuitry in the cable connectors. > > Conceptually firewire to USB should be possible except that the two protocols > are very different. This cable will need a driver and that driver will be the > deciding factor as to whether this will work. However, for $199 you can get 5 > firewire cards and 5 cables. So ... this would be a waste of time and money. see no hint of" any circuitry in any of the views I looked at. Since circuitry can be very small and USB provides 5V DC power, I could obviously be quite wrong, but I choose to remain doubtful anyway. If anyone actually buys and tries one of these cables (I confess that it won't be me), I'd love to see a report. -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251 (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") "Gene E. Bloch" wrote ...
> 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire The chip to do Firewire<->USB2 is small enough that it could> or vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the > pictures in your links. easily fit into the moulded connector "handle" on either end. > 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to I wouldn't expect damage. But I would be VERY surprised if> a FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one > or both ends. it worked for transferring video between camcorder and PC. Native USB2 and native Firewire are each tricky in their own respects. Making a "universal" conversion cable just does not seem like a practical thing. But it is certainly worth trying for that very low price. "Gene E. Bloch" wrote ...
> 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire The chip to do Firewire<->USB2 is small enough that it could> or vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the > pictures in your links. easily fit into the moulded connector "handle" on either end. > 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to I wouldn't expect damage. But I would be VERY surprised if> a FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one > or both ends. it worked for transferring video between camcorder and PC. Native USB2 and native Firewire are each tricky in their own respects. Making a "universal" conversion cable just does not seem like a practical thing. But it is certainly worth trying for that very low price. "Gene E. Bloch" wrote ...
> 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire The chip to do Firewire<->USB2 is small enough that it could> or vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the > pictures in your links. easily fit into the moulded connector "handle" on either end. > 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to I wouldn't expect damage. But I would be VERY surprised if> a FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one > or both ends. it worked for transferring video between camcorder and PC. Native USB2 and native Firewire are each tricky in their own respects. Making a "universal" conversion cable just does not seem like a practical thing. But it is certainly worth trying for that very low price.
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On Feb 4, 3:37 am, "Richard Crowley" <rcrow***@xpr7t.net> wrote: Another item of this kind is offered on eBay at US $2.25> "Gene E. Bloch" wrote ... > > > 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire > > or vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the > > pictures in your links. > > The chip to do Firewire<->USB2 is small enough that it could > easily fit into the moulded connector "handle" on either end. > > > 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to > > a FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one > > or both ends. > > I wouldn't expect damage. But I would be VERY surprised if > it worked for transferring video between camcorder and PC. > > Native USB2 and native Firewire are each tricky in their own > respects. Making a "universal" conversion cable just does not > seem like a practical thing. But it is certainly worth trying for > that very low price. http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-to-IEEE-1394-Firewire-6-Pin-Converter-Adapter_W0QQitemZ200073811255QQihZ010QQcategoryZ41993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting Up for Auction is this USB to IEEE 1394 Firewire 6 Pin Converter Adapter This adapter allows you to convert IEEE 1394 Firewire 6 pin to USB Port. Feature: USB 1.1 and 2.0 compatible USB to 1394 IEEE 6 Pin USB to IEEE 1394 Firewire 6 Pin Converter Adapter (Quality = 1) I will only be able to send this item to locations in the United States. I will only be able to send this item once your check clears, I hope you understand. Darius On 2/04/2007, la-la posted this:
Show quote > On Feb 4, 3:37 am, "Richard Crowley" <rcrow***@xpr7t.net> wrote: It is interesting to see that PayPal is not accepted...>> "Gene E. Bloch" wrote ... >> >>> 1. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can convert USB to FireWire >>> or vice versa - and I see no hint of active electronics in the >>> pictures in your links. >> >> The chip to do Firewire<->USB2 is small enough that it could >> easily fit into the moulded connector "handle" on either end. >> >>> 2. I doubt that a passive electronic cable can connect a USB device to >>> a FireWire device or vice versa without damaging the equipment at one >>> or both ends. >> >> I wouldn't expect damage. But I would be VERY surprised if >> it worked for transferring video between camcorder and PC. >> >> Native USB2 and native Firewire are each tricky in their own >> respects. Making a "universal" conversion cable just does not >> seem like a practical thing. But it is certainly worth trying for >> that very low price. > > Another item of this kind is offered on eBay at US $2.25 > http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-to-IEEE-1394-Firewire-6-Pin-Converter-Adapter_W0QQitemZ200073811255QQihZ010QQcategoryZ41993QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting > > > Up for Auction is this USB to IEEE 1394 Firewire 6 Pin Converter > Adapter > > > > This adapter allows you to convert IEEE 1394 Firewire 6 pin to USB > Port. > > Feature: > USB 1.1 and 2.0 compatible > USB to 1394 IEEE 6 Pin > > > > USB to IEEE 1394 Firewire 6 Pin Converter Adapter (Quality = 1) > > I will only be able to send this item to locations in the United > States. > > I will only be able to send this item once your check clears, I hope > you understand. > > Darius -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251 (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") la-la wrote:
Show quote > There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and Why would you buy something that probably costs as much or more as a > elsewhere. > Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to > firewire PCI card installed in PC, > for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard > disk ? > > One offer from eBay is the following: > http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cable-C13_W0QQitemZ170076786016QQihZ007QQcategoryZ51054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > thanks, > > Darius > simple firewire card that may or may not really work?
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"Ray S" <m***@mail.com> wrote in message my bad.. they're $1.99!! Even more of a reason to stay way from them.news:fXIxh.2225$G23.2170@newsreading01.news.tds.net... > la-la wrote: >> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and >> elsewhere. >> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to >> firewire PCI card installed in PC, >> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard >> disk ? >> >> One offer from eBay is the following: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cable-C13_W0QQitemZ170076786016QQihZ007QQcategoryZ51054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> >> thanks, >> >> Darius >> > > Why would you buy something that probably costs as much or more as a > simple firewire card that may or may not really work? Show quote > > > "Ray S" wrote ...
Show quote > la-la wrote: At $2, it costs a fraction of the cheapest firewire card>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and >> elsewhere. >> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to >> firewire PCI card installed in PC, >> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard >> disk ? >> >> One offer from eBay is the following: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cable-C13_W0QQitemZ170076786016QQihZ007QQcategoryZ51054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> >> thanks, >> >> Darius >> > > Why would you buy something that probably costs as much or more as a > simple firewire card that may or may not really work? (~$15 in my neighborhood) Richard Crowley wrote:
Show quote > "Ray S" wrote ... Well then, lets send someone out to by some and test them out.>> la-la wrote: >>> There is a number of Firewire to USB cable sale offers on eBay and >>> elsewhere. >>> Is it possible to use such Firewire to usb cable as a replacement to >>> firewire PCI card installed in PC, >>> for connecting DV videocamera to PC to transfer recorded video to hard >>> disk ? >>> >>> One offer from eBay is the following: >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-5-Feet-USB-2-0-to-Firewire-4-Pin-1394-Cable-C13_W0QQitemZ170076786016QQihZ007QQcategoryZ51054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> Darius >>> >> Why would you buy something that probably costs as much or more as a >> simple firewire card that may or may not really work? > > At $2, it costs a fraction of the cheapest firewire card > (~$15 in my neighborhood) > >  |
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