|
pc
newsgroups
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||
Safe to buy a used GL2Hello All,
I'm considering steping up to a GL2 (for SCUBA video) and was thinking about purchasing from a local end-user (around $1300+) to get a good price. Most that I find, however, are not under warranty anymore. And I can not purchase a MACK warranty on a camera unless it is from an authorized MACK reseller. So my question to you is... how risky do you think it is to purchase this camera without a warranty? Of course I'll ensure that it is in good operating condition before I buy it; but I'm worried about spending $$ and having the thing die on me in, like, 3 months. Is this a pretty durable, relaible camera for the most part? or am I better off spending the extra $400-500 to buy referbished from a dealer and get the warranty. Appreciate your input! <snowdo***@gmail.com> wrote in message
Show quote news:1169155341.624627.308740@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com... I don't know about Canon, but Sony has a fixed price for any repair on an > Hello All, > > I'm considering steping up to a GL2 (for SCUBA video) and was thinking > about purchasing from a local end-user (around $1300+) to get a good > price. Most that I find, however, are not under warranty anymore. And > I can not purchase a MACK warranty on a camera unless it is from an > authorized MACK reseller. > > So my question to you is... how risky do you think it is to purchase > this camera without a warranty? Of course I'll ensure that it is in > good operating condition before I buy it; but I'm worried about > spending $$ and having the thing die on me in, like, 3 months. Is this > a pretty durable, relaible camera for the most part? or am I better > off spending the extra $400-500 to buy referbished from a dealer and > get the warranty. > > Appreciate your input! out-of-warranty prosumer camcorder. VX2000s cost $575 to repair, regardless of the nature of the repair. The most important "hidden" factor on used camcorders is the number of head hours -- tape is abrasive and wears heads down. Sony's VX series do not have a head hour clock, but their professional counterparts, the PD-150 and PD-170 do. I don't know if the GL2 has a head hour clock, but Canon's XL series almost certainly do. Are you sure you want a GL2? The VX2000/2100 is a better camera and can probably be found used for around what you are planning to pay for the GL2. Show quote >
Show quote
"PTravel" <ptra***@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message Sorry, should have put this in my original post:news:51a9q3F1jp82dU1@mid.individual.net... > > <snowdo***@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1169155341.624627.308740@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com... >> Hello All, >> >> I'm considering steping up to a GL2 (for SCUBA video) and was thinking >> about purchasing from a local end-user (around $1300+) to get a good >> price. Most that I find, however, are not under warranty anymore. And >> I can not purchase a MACK warranty on a camera unless it is from an >> authorized MACK reseller. >> >> So my question to you is... how risky do you think it is to purchase >> this camera without a warranty? Of course I'll ensure that it is in >> good operating condition before I buy it; but I'm worried about >> spending $$ and having the thing die on me in, like, 3 months. Is this >> a pretty durable, relaible camera for the most part? or am I better >> off spending the extra $400-500 to buy referbished from a dealer and >> get the warranty. >> >> Appreciate your input! > > I don't know about Canon, but Sony has a fixed price for any repair on an > out-of-warranty prosumer camcorder. VX2000s cost $575 to repair, > regardless of the nature of the repair. > > The most important "hidden" factor on used camcorders is the number of > head hours -- tape is abrasive and wears heads down. Sony's VX series do > not have a head hour clock, but their professional counterparts, the > PD-150 and PD-170 do. I don't know if the GL2 has a head hour clock, but > Canon's XL series almost certainly do. > > Are you sure you want a GL2? The VX2000/2100 is a better camera and can > probably be found used for around what you are planning to pay for the > GL2. Underwater videography is, by definition, low-light videography, which is one of the reasons why a VX2100/2200 would be a better choice than the GL2, as these cameras, aside from producing great video (and better than the GL2), have the absolute best low-light performance of any miniDV camcorder under $4,000. Show quote > > >> > > Thanks for the info... I'll look into the Sony camera as well. And for
the Sony, it sounds fairly safe to purchase used without a warranty since the repair is fixed? PTravel wrote: Show quote > "PTravel" <ptra***@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message > news:51a9q3F1jp82dU1@mid.individual.net... > > > > <snowdo***@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1169155341.624627.308740@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com... > >> Hello All, > >> > >> I'm considering steping up to a GL2 (for SCUBA video) and was thinking > >> about purchasing from a local end-user (around $1300+) to get a good > >> price. Most that I find, however, are not under warranty anymore. And > >> I can not purchase a MACK warranty on a camera unless it is from an > >> authorized MACK reseller. > >> > >> So my question to you is... how risky do you think it is to purchase > >> this camera without a warranty? Of course I'll ensure that it is in > >> good operating condition before I buy it; but I'm worried about > >> spending $$ and having the thing die on me in, like, 3 months. Is this > >> a pretty durable, relaible camera for the most part? or am I better > >> off spending the extra $400-500 to buy referbished from a dealer and > >> get the warranty. > >> > >> Appreciate your input! > > > > I don't know about Canon, but Sony has a fixed price for any repair on an > > out-of-warranty prosumer camcorder. VX2000s cost $575 to repair, > > regardless of the nature of the repair. > > > > The most important "hidden" factor on used camcorders is the number of > > head hours -- tape is abrasive and wears heads down. Sony's VX series do > > not have a head hour clock, but their professional counterparts, the > > PD-150 and PD-170 do. I don't know if the GL2 has a head hour clock, but > > Canon's XL series almost certainly do. > > > > Are you sure you want a GL2? The VX2000/2100 is a better camera and can > > probably be found used for around what you are planning to pay for the > > GL2. > > Sorry, should have put this in my original post: > > Underwater videography is, by definition, low-light videography, which is > one of the reasons why a VX2100/2200 would be a better choice than the GL2, > as these cameras, aside from producing great video (and better than the > GL2), have the absolute best low-light performance of any miniDV camcorder > under $4,000. > > > > > > > >> > > > > <snowdo***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169164776.213055.221890@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com... I think Sony may exclude damage caused by abuse (or, of course, > Thanks for the info... I'll look into the Sony camera as well. And for > the Sony, it sounds fairly safe to purchase used without a warranty > since the repair is fixed? deliberately), and the $575 figure was quoted to me a few years ago (I have a VX2000 and managed to fry the 1394 connection -- it wasn't worth it to me to have it repaired, as the camera works fine and I use another camera for transferring video for edit to avoid wear on the VX2000 heads). Though it's been in place for many years, you should verify that Sony's flat-rate repair policy is still in effect. Note, though, that if you're going to spend $1300 for a camera and then another $600 or so for repair, you're getting within spitting distance of the street price of a new VX2100 which, of course, comes with a full warranty and heads with 0 hours. You might also want to do some pre-purchase comparison shopping on underwater housings, which aren't exactly cheap. I'm sure they're available for both the GL2 and VX2000 and VX2100 (the two VX models are almost, but not exactly, identical so there may be different housings for each). However, because the VX series are more popular, it's possible that the housings are cheaper. Show quote > > PTravel wrote: >> "PTravel" <ptra***@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message >> news:51a9q3F1jp82dU1@mid.individual.net... >> > >> > <snowdo***@gmail.com> wrote in message >> > news:1169155341.624627.308740@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com... >> >> Hello All, >> >> >> >> I'm considering steping up to a GL2 (for SCUBA video) and was thinking >> >> about purchasing from a local end-user (around $1300+) to get a good >> >> price. Most that I find, however, are not under warranty anymore. >> >> And >> >> I can not purchase a MACK warranty on a camera unless it is from an >> >> authorized MACK reseller. >> >> >> >> So my question to you is... how risky do you think it is to purchase >> >> this camera without a warranty? Of course I'll ensure that it is in >> >> good operating condition before I buy it; but I'm worried about >> >> spending $$ and having the thing die on me in, like, 3 months. Is >> >> this >> >> a pretty durable, relaible camera for the most part? or am I better >> >> off spending the extra $400-500 to buy referbished from a dealer and >> >> get the warranty. >> >> >> >> Appreciate your input! >> > >> > I don't know about Canon, but Sony has a fixed price for any repair on >> > an >> > out-of-warranty prosumer camcorder. VX2000s cost $575 to repair, >> > regardless of the nature of the repair. >> > >> > The most important "hidden" factor on used camcorders is the number of >> > head hours -- tape is abrasive and wears heads down. Sony's VX series >> > do >> > not have a head hour clock, but their professional counterparts, the >> > PD-150 and PD-170 do. I don't know if the GL2 has a head hour clock, >> > but >> > Canon's XL series almost certainly do. >> > >> > Are you sure you want a GL2? The VX2000/2100 is a better camera and >> > can >> > probably be found used for around what you are planning to pay for the >> > GL2. >> >> Sorry, should have put this in my original post: >> >> Underwater videography is, by definition, low-light videography, which is >> one of the reasons why a VX2100/2200 would be a better choice than the >> GL2, >> as these cameras, aside from producing great video (and better than the >> GL2), have the absolute best low-light performance of any miniDV >> camcorder >> under $4,000. >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> > > ? <snowdo***@gmail.com> ?????? ??? ??????
news:1169164776.213055.221890@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com... I wouldn't say that since they would charge you the flat rate even for> Thanks for the info... I'll look into the Sony camera as well. And for > the Sony, it sounds fairly safe to purchase used without a warranty > since the repair is fixed? > changing a blown fuse or a resistor or a capacitor or whatever.That is, because cameras, both still and video, are utterly miniaturized and complicated and normally not designed for extensive repairs,say,like a washing machine.Better get a new one.Maybe you can get a good price on a new one, as I did with mine sony dcr hc32e (bought for 350 euros, seen elsewhere for 520 euros)which was on a small display with a HD camcorder abd connected to a screen so that anybody could compare their picture quality...well, anyway, I suppose the sensor has some hours, but the heads are 0 hours and I still have the full guarantee... Show quote > PTravel wrote: > > "PTravel" <ptra***@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message > > news:51a9q3F1jp82dU1@mid.individual.net... > > > > > > <snowdo***@gmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:1169155341.624627.308740@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com... > > >> Hello All, > > >> > > >> I'm considering steping up to a GL2 (for SCUBA video) and was thinking > > >> about purchasing from a local end-user (around $1300+) to get a good > > >> price. Most that I find, however, are not under warranty anymore. And > > >> I can not purchase a MACK warranty on a camera unless it is from an > > >> authorized MACK reseller. > > >> > > >> So my question to you is... how risky do you think it is to purchase > > >> this camera without a warranty? Of course I'll ensure that it is in > > >> good operating condition before I buy it; but I'm worried about > > >> spending $$ and having the thing die on me in, like, 3 months. Is this > > >> a pretty durable, relaible camera for the most part? or am I better > > >> off spending the extra $400-500 to buy referbished from a dealer and > > >> get the warranty. > > >> > > >> Appreciate your input! > > > > > > I don't know about Canon, but Sony has a fixed price for any repair on an > > > out-of-warranty prosumer camcorder. VX2000s cost $575 to repair, > > > regardless of the nature of the repair. > > > > > > The most important "hidden" factor on used camcorders is the number of > > > head hours -- tape is abrasive and wears heads down. Sony's VX series do > > > not have a head hour clock, but their professional counterparts, the > > > PD-150 and PD-170 do. I don't know if the GL2 has a head hour clock, but > > > Canon's XL series almost certainly do. > > > > > > Are you sure you want a GL2? The VX2000/2100 is a better camera and can > > > probably be found used for around what you are planning to pay for the > > > GL2. > > > > Sorry, should have put this in my original post: > > > > Underwater videography is, by definition, low-light videography, which is > > one of the reasons why a VX2100/2200 would be a better choice than the GL2, > > as these cameras, aside from producing great video (and better than the > > GL2), have the absolute best low-light performance of any miniDV camcorder > > under $4,000. > > > -- Tzortzakakis Dimitrios major in electrical engineering mechanized infantry reservist dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr  |
|||||||||||||||||||||||
Other interesting topics