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The most complex DVD menu?Hello all,
This might sound a little bit strange, but I would really like to know what the most complicated DVD menu would look like, in terms of various elements in the menu: animated buttons, animated background, audio dependent on button currently selected, buttons flying around, you name it... (I don't even know whether all the features I mentioned here are possible). I suppose that reading through the whole DVD specification might answer my question as well, but I would, however, prefer to avoid that :) Any pointers to released titles would be appreciated, while any links to web pages depicting the above would be even more greatly appreciated! TIA! Forget the DVD "spec" for creative menu ideas.
That would be like trying to describe a Mozart concert with an equation for varying wave pressure. Rent or buy the movies: Kill Bill Volume 1 Jet Li's Hero Manchurian Candidate (w/Denzel Washington, not the 1955 B&W) Of all the DVD's I've seen, those three take the MOST advantage of the DVD spec to create dynamic, interactive menus. Also note, those films made millions of dollars and could obviously afford the weeks of time necessary to produce those menus... those projects are few and far between for most of us. Something I do for menus is integrate elements from the main feature when practical. I try to get some digital stills for anything I'm taping to give me clean images to work with. Having illustration talent helps but isn't 100% necessary. Take a look here for an example of a DVD I just did. http://www.ncf.ca/~af895/misc/rasputins/rasputins.html Click on the little images of menus for a larger version 2 days of post-production, tops. 1hour concert + 1 hour practice session. The menus were Photoshop creations. They're not animated though. C. Show quote "Griffo Fooxburr" <griffofBEZ@SPAMAhotmail.com> wrote in message news:d5dh65$l8j$1@ss405.t-com.hr... > Hello all, > This might sound a little bit strange, but I would really like to know > what > the most complicated DVD menu would look like, in terms of various > elements > in the menu: animated buttons, animated background, audio dependent on > button currently selected, buttons flying around, you name it... (I don't > even know whether all the features I mentioned here are possible). > I suppose that reading through the whole DVD specification might answer my > question as well, but I would, however, prefer to avoid that :) > > Any pointers to released titles would be appreciated, while any links to > web > pages depicting the above would be even more greatly appreciated! > > TIA! > mmmm, coool!
I didn't know it was possible to make such free-form shaped buttons! Which authoring programme have you used to produce it? C.J.Patten wrote: Show quote > Forget the DVD "spec" for creative menu ideas. > That would be like trying to describe a Mozart concert with an > equation for varying wave pressure. > > Rent or buy the movies: > Kill Bill Volume 1 > Jet Li's Hero > Manchurian Candidate (w/Denzel Washington, not the 1955 B&W) > > Of all the DVD's I've seen, those three take the MOST advantage of > the DVD spec to create dynamic, interactive menus. > > Also note, those films made millions of dollars and could obviously > afford the weeks of time necessary to produce those menus... those > projects are few and far between for most of us. > > Something I do for menus is integrate elements from the main feature > when practical. > > I try to get some digital stills for anything I'm taping to give me > clean images to work with. Having illustration talent helps but isn't > 100% necessary. > > Take a look here for an example of a DVD I just did. > http://www.ncf.ca/~af895/misc/rasputins/rasputins.html > Click on the little images of menus for a larger version > > 2 days of post-production, tops. 1hour concert + 1 hour practice > session. The menus were Photoshop creations. They're not animated > though. > > C. > > > > > "Griffo Fooxburr" <griffofBEZ@SPAMAhotmail.com> wrote in message > news:d5dh65$l8j$1@ss405.t-com.hr... >> Hello all, >> This might sound a little bit strange, but I would really like to >> know what >> the most complicated DVD menu would look like, in terms of various >> elements >> in the menu: animated buttons, animated background, audio dependent >> on button currently selected, buttons flying around, you name it... >> (I don't even know whether all the features I mentioned here are >> possible). >> I suppose that reading through the whole DVD specification might >> answer my question as well, but I would, however, prefer to avoid >> that :) >> >> Any pointers to released titles would be appreciated, while any >> links to web >> pages depicting the above would be even more greatly appreciated! >> >> TIA! Photoshop/Adobe Encore - tight integration.
As I see it, the limitation of guides like those at "videohelp.com" is they focus on the technical aspects of the DVD spec - the sort of thing you might have needed to know 4 or 5 years ago if you were authoring a DVD. They're a good place to start but don't let them stifle your creativity. Apple's DVD Studio and Adobe's Encore are third (Adobe would argue Encore is a "fourth") generation tool - sometimes referred to as "abstraction layer" software. _________ I use this as an example: circa 1980, if you were a graphic artist working at a TV station and you wanted to, say, "draw a circle" to overlay on a screen, you actually had to CODE the circle - you describe where the top of it is, how tight the arc is, what the hexadecimal code for the colour is etc. Today, you go into Adobe Photoshop or Illustrator, click the "circle tool" and 5 seconds later, you have the image file you want. _________ DVD Authoring has reached that stage. You don't need to know programming code to author a DVD. That's the "abstract" part of the "abstraction layer" software - it removes the user from the nuts-and-bolts and let's them work on a creative, abstract level. There's lots of software you can use to create DVD's. If you work with abstraction-layer level tools, you can concentrate on being CREATIVE with the DVD medium instead of investing time just trying to get it to "technically work right." Having said that, knowing what's going on behind the scenes can help you track down problems and make you more effective on the creative side. You'll know what works and what doesn't so you won't waste time trying things beyond the limits of the medium. C.j Show quote "Griffo Fooxburr" <griffofBEZ@SPAMAhotmail.com> wrote in message news:d5dk18$pjs$1@ss405.t-com.hr... > mmmm, coool! > I didn't know it was possible to make such free-form shaped buttons! > Which authoring programme have you used to produce it? > > > C.J.Patten wrote: >> Forget the DVD "spec" for creative menu ideas. >> That would be like trying to describe a Mozart concert with an >> equation for varying wave pressure. >> >> Rent or buy the movies: >> Kill Bill Volume 1 >> Jet Li's Hero >> Manchurian Candidate (w/Denzel Washington, not the 1955 B&W) >> >> Of all the DVD's I've seen, those three take the MOST advantage of >> the DVD spec to create dynamic, interactive menus. >> >> Also note, those films made millions of dollars and could obviously >> afford the weeks of time necessary to produce those menus... those >> projects are few and far between for most of us. >> >> Something I do for menus is integrate elements from the main feature >> when practical. >> >> I try to get some digital stills for anything I'm taping to give me >> clean images to work with. Having illustration talent helps but isn't >> 100% necessary. >> >> Take a look here for an example of a DVD I just did. >> http://www.ncf.ca/~af895/misc/rasputins/rasputins.html >> Click on the little images of menus for a larger version >> >> 2 days of post-production, tops. 1hour concert + 1 hour practice >> session. The menus were Photoshop creations. They're not animated >> though. >> >> C. >> >> >> >> >> "Griffo Fooxburr" <griffofBEZ@SPAMAhotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:d5dh65$l8j$1@ss405.t-com.hr... >>> Hello all, >>> This might sound a little bit strange, but I would really like to >>> know what >>> the most complicated DVD menu would look like, in terms of various >>> elements >>> in the menu: animated buttons, animated background, audio dependent >>> on button currently selected, buttons flying around, you name it... >>> (I don't even know whether all the features I mentioned here are >>> possible). >>> I suppose that reading through the whole DVD specification might >>> answer my question as well, but I would, however, prefer to avoid >>> that :) >>> >>> Any pointers to released titles would be appreciated, while any >>> links to web >>> pages depicting the above would be even more greatly appreciated! >>> >>> TIA!
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> C.J. is quite right in that the DVD Specifications only provide> > > "Griffo Fooxburr" <griffofBEZ@SPAMAhotmail.com> wrote in message > news:d5dh65$l8j$1@ss405.t-com.hr... >> Hello all, >> This might sound a little bit strange, but I would really like to know >> what >> the most complicated DVD menu would look like, in terms of various >> elements >> in the menu: animated buttons, animated background, audio dependent on >> button currently selected, buttons flying around, you name it... (I don't >> even know whether all the features I mentioned here are possible). >> I suppose that reading through the whole DVD specification might answer >> my >> question as well, but I would, however, prefer to avoid that :) >> >> Any pointers to released titles would be appreciated, while any links to >> web >> pages depicting the above would be even more greatly appreciated! >> >> TIA! >> > "C.J.Patten" <cjpatten@KNOWSPAMrogers.com> wrote in message news:xNSdnbAasvCg0effRVn-uQ@rogers.com... > Forget the DVD "spec" for creative menu ideas. > That would be like trying to describe a Mozart concert with an equation > for varying wave pressure. > > Rent or buy the movies: > Kill Bill Volume 1 > Jet Li's Hero > Manchurian Candidate (w/Denzel Washington, not the 1955 B&W) > > Of all the DVD's I've seen, those three take the MOST advantage of the DVD > spec to create dynamic, interactive menus. > > Also note, those films made millions of dollars and could obviously afford > the weeks of time necessary to produce those menus... those projects are > few and far between for most of us. > > Something I do for menus is integrate elements from the main feature when > practical. > > I try to get some digital stills for anything I'm taping to give me clean > images to work with. Having illustration talent helps but isn't 100% > necessary. > > Take a look here for an example of a DVD I just did. > http://www.ncf.ca/~af895/misc/rasputins/rasputins.html > Click on the little images of menus for a larger version > > 2 days of post-production, tops. 1hour concert + 1 hour practice session. > The menus were Photoshop creations. They're not animated though. > > C. > some of the tools and an idea of what commands, DVD players can be expected to be able to respond to. What can be done with those tools and player responses, is up to your creative abilities. Photoshop is great but costly and there are free alternatives like "Gimp2", to do layered graphics that conform to the DVD Spec. Most Authoring programs, that accept user supplied graphics, [like TMPGEnc DVD Author (TDA)] will do the layering for you, if you want. So you can also use non-layered graphics like the BMPs from the "Paint" utility in Windows. A good selection of fonts can make all the difference in the world. There are still free fonts for download, and you can often find gems like the "Snap!" "4,000 Fonts" CD I got from Best Buy for $4.99. Having them and using them effectively can be another thing. C.J.'s menus are very good examples of great Font selection and the use of appropriate "clip art", in a well balanced fashion so as to integrate with his background material. Not as easy as it may look, but with some practice you should develop enough of a trained eye to create something similar. ( C.J.'s example should be some help) I usually make motion menus, and while I haven't yet tried the "buttons flying around" (I have Magix's "Movie Edit Pro 10" and it can make "Picture in Picture" effects so I might be able to mask an animated flying button) all of the others are doable in TDA. (Not as a supplied features, necessarily but by use of various "tricks".) The motion menus I use the most are simply cleaned-up "Opening Credits" which also gives me the theme music for that show/movie. Because these Intro/credit clips are often an enjoyable part of the experience, I try to minimize the impact of the selection items in the menu. This usually means simple text selections of episode titles, done in neutral colors but interesting fonts. Movie trailers can sometimes make good motion backgrounds, avoid those with a lot of text effects of their own, though. As to what is possible within the programming capabilities of the DVDs Virtual Machine (VM) command set, that is seldom even touched on in a menu. There are some very interesting interactive features built in, that allow a programmer to define how the player's remote can provide input to a quite sophisticated register supported decision structure. With this; testing and gaming can be conducted, using the full audio and video capability of a DVD. Luck; Ken Thanks for the kind words Ken - high praise from a trained eye.
I went to the Gimp website (GNU Image Manipulation Program - clever name). Is it strictly a Linux type program or is this WinXP compatible? I'd like to be able to recommend non-commercial alternatives to my clients as the Adobe suite is such a large investment. _________ I too have used pieces of video from the main feature as elements of motion menus. I find that approach VERY easy to do compared with the mammoth undertaking of creating a "Kill Bill vol.1" style menu system. (if you haven't seen that one - RUN to the video store. It's awe-inspiring - I'm talking about the MENU alone here, movie aside...) Got any examples online Ken? I'm always looking for new ideas. Here's a link to a screen cap that features a motion menu: http://www.ncf.ca/~af895/test/index.html The "cut out" part on the left has video of various flying sequences. Not my finest work but for a one day job, it ain't bad. ;) Chris Show quote "Ken Maltby" <kmal***@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:XdadnbAlRv6h--ffRVn-rw@giganews.com... > C.J. is quite right in that the DVD Specifications only provide > some of the tools and an idea of what commands, DVD players > can be expected to be able to respond to. What can be done > with those tools and player responses, is up to your creative > abilities. > > Photoshop is great but costly and there are free alternatives like > "Gimp2", to do layered graphics that conform to the DVD Spec. > Most Authoring programs, that accept user supplied graphics, > [like TMPGEnc DVD Author (TDA)] will do the layering for you, > if you want. So you can also use non-layered graphics like the > BMPs from the "Paint" utility in Windows. > > A good selection of fonts can make all the difference in the world. > There are still free fonts for download, and you can often find gems > like the "Snap!" "4,000 Fonts" CD I got from Best Buy for $4.99. > Having them and using them effectively can be another thing. > > C.J.'s menus are very good examples of great Font selection and > the use of appropriate "clip art", in a well balanced fashion so as to > integrate with his background material. Not as easy as it may look, > but with some practice you should develop enough of a trained eye > to create something similar. ( C.J.'s example should be some help) > > I usually make motion menus, and while I haven't yet tried the > "buttons flying around" (I have Magix's "Movie Edit Pro 10" and it > can make "Picture in Picture" effects so I might be able to mask an > animated flying button) all of the others are doable in TDA. > (Not as a supplied features, necessarily but by use of various > "tricks".) > > The motion menus I use the most are simply cleaned-up "Opening > Credits" which also gives me the theme music for that show/movie. > Because these Intro/credit clips are often an enjoyable part of the > experience, I try to minimize the impact of the selection items in > the menu. This usually means simple text selections of episode > titles, done in neutral colors but interesting fonts. Movie trailers > can sometimes make good motion backgrounds, avoid those > with a lot of text effects of their own, though. > > As to what is possible within the programming capabilities of the > DVDs Virtual Machine (VM) command set, that is seldom even > touched on in a menu. There are some very interesting interactive > features built in, that allow a programmer to define how the player's > remote can provide input to a quite sophisticated register supported > decision structure. With this; testing and gaming can be conducted, > using the full audio and video capability of a DVD. > > Luck; > Ken > > C.J.Patten wrote:
> I went to the Gimp website (GNU Image Manipulation Program - clever See the "Downloads" page:> name). > Is it strictly a Linux type program or is this WinXP compatible? <http://www.gimp.org/downloads/> There's a link to the Windows version near the bottom of that page. * * * There is also another version of GIMP, which was formerly called "Film GIMP". However, it was later renamed it to "CinePaint": <http://cinepaint.sourceforge.net/>. There is currently no usable Windows version of CinePaint, but a Windows port is being planned. -- znark
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"Jukka Aho" <jukka.***@iki.fi> wrote in message Which leaves most of us still struggling with "Wax".news:csvee.463$mw2.34@reader1.news.jippii.net... > C.J.Patten wrote: > >> I went to the Gimp website (GNU Image Manipulation Program - clever >> name). >> Is it strictly a Linux type program or is this WinXP compatible? > > See the "Downloads" page: > > <http://www.gimp.org/downloads/> > > There's a link to the Windows version near the bottom of that page. > > * * * > > There is also another version of GIMP, which was formerly called "Film > GIMP". However, it was later renamed it to "CinePaint": > <http://cinepaint.sourceforge.net/>. > > There is currently no usable Windows version of CinePaint, but a Windows > port is being planned. > > -- > znark > I still can't find a smooth Rotoscope program, seen any? Luck; Ken Ken Maltby wrote:
>> There is currently no usable Windows version of CinePaint, but a No idea. I _think_ you could run Cinepaint without ever leaving Windows >> Windows port is being planned. > Which leaves most of us still struggling with "Wax". > I still can't find a smooth Rotoscope program, seen any? by installing coLinux [1] and Cygwin/X [2] but that will require some tinkering with the configuration files, network settings and such. I can't really recommend that approach if you have no previous experience of Linux and X11. _____ [1] <http://www.colinux.org/> [2] <http://x.cygwin.com/> -- znark
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"Jukka Aho" <jukka.***@iki.fi> wrote in message Hmmm..... for now I think I'd rather be able to sleep at night.news:4Axee.488$Z83.249@reader1.news.jippii.net... > Ken Maltby wrote: > >>> There is currently no usable Windows version of CinePaint, but a >>> Windows port is being planned. > >> Which leaves most of us still struggling with "Wax". >> I still can't find a smooth Rotoscope program, seen any? > > No idea. I _think_ you could run Cinepaint without ever leaving Windows by > installing coLinux [1] and Cygwin/X [2] but that will require some > tinkering with the configuration files, network settings and such. I can't > really recommend that approach if you have no previous experience of Linux > and X11. > > _____ > > [1] <http://www.colinux.org/> > [2] <http://x.cygwin.com/> > > -- > znark > That sounds like a ticket to nightmares. One of these days I'll slap together a Linux box and see if there are any active brain cells left, in the portion that used to code for UNIX based minis. ( In those days the mini filled at least half of a semi-trailer) Luck; Ken Ken Maltby wrote:
> One of these days I'll slap together a Linux box and see if there If that's your background, I think you should have no problem in getting > are any active brain cells left, in the portion that used to code for > UNIX based minis. ( In those days the mini filled at least half of > a semi-trailer) up to speed on Linux quite quickly. :) Anyhow, if you're looking for an easy, quick way to preview Linux, without actually having to install anything, you might want to consider trying out these two "live" Linux CD distributions: Knoppix: <http://www.knoppix.net/> <http://www.knoppix.net/about.php> Dyne:Bolic <http://www.dynebolic.org/> <http://www.dynebolic.org/index.php?show=features> Basically, you just download the CD image, burn it on a CD, and boot your PC from the CD. (Unfortunately, as far as I know, neither of these come with Cinepaint.) -- znark "C.J.Patten" <cjpatten@KNOWSPAMrogers.com> wrote in message I use it in WinXP with a GUI. Works great, I was even able to turnnews:p-udnWqFdssd5-ffRVn-qQ@rogers.com... > Thanks for the kind words Ken - high praise from a trained eye. > > I went to the Gimp website (GNU Image Manipulation Program - clever name). > > Is it strictly a Linux type program or is this WinXP compatible? I'd like > to > be able to recommend non-commercial alternatives to my clients as the > Adobe > suite is such a large investment. > > the highlight layer into a "Rollover" text feature using it. _________ > Just some pics of a few disks I labeled with an R200 and my old> I too have used pieces of video from the main feature as elements of > motion menus. > > I find that approach VERY easy to do compared with the mammoth undertaking > of creating a "Kill Bill vol.1" style menu system. (if you haven't seen > that one - RUN to the video store. It's awe-inspiring - I'm talking about > the MENU alone here, movie aside...) > > Got any examples online Ken? I'm always looking for new ideas. > Dymo labeling. "http://photos.yahoo.com/kmal***@sbcglobal.net Not too shabby, and they were fun to make." I included one of the E-Cards I doctored with Gimp2 to create an image for the Epson "Print CD" to use. Show quote > Here's a link to a screen cap that features a motion menu: > http://www.ncf.ca/~af895/test/index.html > The "cut out" part on the left has video of various flying sequences. > Not my finest work but for a one day job, it ain't bad. ;) > > Chris > >> Thanks for the kind words Ken - high praise from a trained eye. <snip>>> >> I went to the Gimp website (GNU Image Manipulation Program - clever name). >> >> Is it strictly a Linux type program or is this WinXP compatible? I'd like >> to >> be able to recommend non-commercial alternatives to my clients as the >> Adobe >> suite is such a large investment. >> >> > I use it in WinXP with a GUI. Works great, I was even able to turn >the highlight layer into a "Rollover" text feature using it. There is a free interface add-on available for the Windows version of GIMP to make it look more Photoshop-like. You can Google the alt.comp.freeware newsgroup for a download link to both GIMP and the add-on. For a freeware photo/paint app that supports layers and Photoshop plugins, I prefer Serif PhotoPlus6. I find it easier to use and less quirky than GIMP, and it has a much better interface. Again, you can Google a.c.f for a link, but I think it might be www.freeserifsoftware.com . There's a registration involved, but it's free. You might want to create a throwaway email address at mailinator.com or spamgourmet.com to avoid any subsequent spam from them after registration. Who knew? Thanks M.L.!
C. Show quote "M.L." <m*@privacy.net> wrote in message news:9t2l81l1qqflmsneihmagei8gidtkuncrq@4ax.com... > >>> Thanks for the kind words Ken - high praise from a trained eye. >>> >>> I went to the Gimp website (GNU Image Manipulation Program - clever >>> name). >>> >>> Is it strictly a Linux type program or is this WinXP compatible? I'd >>> like >>> to >>> be able to recommend non-commercial alternatives to my clients as the >>> Adobe >>> suite is such a large investment. >>> >>> >> I use it in WinXP with a GUI. Works great, I was even able to turn >>the highlight layer into a "Rollover" text feature using it. > > <snip> > > There is a free interface add-on available for the Windows version of > GIMP to make it look more Photoshop-like. You can Google the > alt.comp.freeware newsgroup for a download link to both GIMP and the > add-on. > > For a freeware photo/paint app that supports layers and Photoshop > plugins, I prefer Serif PhotoPlus6. I find it easier to use and less > quirky than GIMP, and it has a much better interface. Again, you can > Google a.c.f for a link, but I think it might be > www.freeserifsoftware.com . There's a registration involved, but it's > free. You might want to create a throwaway email address at > mailinator.com or spamgourmet.com to avoid any subsequent spam from > them after registration. On Thu, 5 May 2005 12:39:27 -0400, "C.J.Patten"
<cjpatten@KNOWSPAMrogers.com> wrote: [snip] >Take a look here for an example of a DVD I just did. Hmm. Very nice.>http://www.ncf.ca/~af895/misc/rasputins/rasputins.html >Click on the little images of menus for a larger version > >2 days of post-production, tops. 1hour concert + 1 hour practice session. >The menus were Photoshop creations. They're not animated though. I'm a bit new to all this - so forgive the newbie-type question. Are those white-bordered menu fonts on the 'Song Selection' list your own creation/effect or an actual font (if so, which?) I couldn't find anything like it in my collection of free/inexpensive fonts - and it works well. [snip] -- Mark
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"Mark" <codvim***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message If you use a good graphics application the Text can have a Stroke (outline) news:a39m719g9pbl7kjtqmlh380bqh4hr3vagv@4ax.com... > On Thu, 5 May 2005 12:39:27 -0400, "C.J.Patten" > <cjpatten@KNOWSPAMrogers.com> wrote: > > [snip] > >>Take a look here for an example of a DVD I just did. >>http://www.ncf.ca/~af895/misc/rasputins/rasputins.html >>Click on the little images of menus for a larger version >> >>2 days of post-production, tops. 1hour concert + 1 hour practice session. >>The menus were Photoshop creations. They're not animated though. > > Hmm. Very nice. > > I'm a bit new to all this - so forgive the newbie-type question. Are > those white-bordered menu fonts on the 'Song Selection' list your own > creation/effect or an actual font (if so, which?) > > I couldn't find anything like it in my collection of free/inexpensive > fonts - and it works well. > > [snip] > > -- > Mark and a fill of the colour of your chose from any font. "C.J.Patten" <cjpatten@KNOWSPAMrogers.com> wrote in message <snip>news:xNSdnbAasvCg0effRVn-uQ@rogers.com... > Take a look here for an example of a DVD I just did. Chris, sorry to stray off -topic, but I do a few band gigs / presentations > http://www.ncf.ca/~af895/misc/rasputins/rasputins.html > Click on the little images of menus for a larger version > myself too. I noticed that on your DVD you have a link for mixed audio - (camera and stage mics) - How does this mix sound? I must admit that when I first used more than one sound source, things were fine as long as I kept them separate. Mixing the two feeds gave a "cheapo Karaoke" effect which has stopped me from experimenting too much with this since. I now use 2 mics, or even plug in to sound board but keep the tracks separate. Any observations / suggestions welcomed. Rob Show quote > 2 days of post-production, tops. 1hour concert + 1 hour practice session. > The menus were Photoshop creations. They're not animated though. > > C. > > > > > "Griffo Fooxburr" <griffofBEZ@SPAMAhotmail.com> wrote in message > news:d5dh65$l8j$1@ss405.t-com.hr... >> Hello all, >> This might sound a little bit strange, but I would really like to know >> what >> the most complicated DVD menu would look like, in terms of various >> elements >> in the menu: animated buttons, animated background, audio dependent on >> button currently selected, buttons flying around, you name it... (I don't >> even know whether all the features I mentioned here are possible). >> I suppose that reading through the whole DVD specification might answer >> my >> question as well, but I would, however, prefer to avoid that :) >> >> Any pointers to released titles would be appreciated, while any links to >> web >> pages depicting the above would be even more greatly appreciated! >> >> TIA! >> > > Hey Rob.
We mic'd the stage and the camera seperately. Might have just gotten lucky but the two synced up PERFECTLY - no time delay at all. Since the DVD spec doesn't allow "mixing" we did all that in post, rendering out three different audio tracks which were each used as different audio tracks for that timeline. Hope that helps. C. Show quote "Rob D" <robd.***@virgin.net> wrote in message news:3e155bFlkbsU1@individual.net... > > "C.J.Patten" <cjpatten@KNOWSPAMrogers.com> wrote in message > news:xNSdnbAasvCg0effRVn-uQ@rogers.com... > <snip> > > >> Take a look here for an example of a DVD I just did. >> http://www.ncf.ca/~af895/misc/rasputins/rasputins.html >> Click on the little images of menus for a larger version >> > > Chris, sorry to stray off -topic, but I do a few band gigs / presentations > myself too. I noticed that on your DVD you have a link for mixed audio - > (camera and stage mics) - How does this mix sound? > I must admit that when I first used more than one sound source, things > were fine as long as I kept them separate. Mixing the two feeds gave a > "cheapo Karaoke" effect which has stopped me from experimenting too much > with this since. I now use 2 mics, or even plug in to sound board but keep > the tracks separate. > Any observations / suggestions welcomed. > > Rob > > >> 2 days of post-production, tops. 1hour concert + 1 hour practice session. >> The menus were Photoshop creations. They're not animated though. >> >> C. >> >> >> >> >> "Griffo Fooxburr" <griffofBEZ@SPAMAhotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:d5dh65$l8j$1@ss405.t-com.hr... >>> Hello all, >>> This might sound a little bit strange, but I would really like to know >>> what >>> the most complicated DVD menu would look like, in terms of various >>> elements >>> in the menu: animated buttons, animated background, audio dependent on >>> button currently selected, buttons flying around, you name it... (I >>> don't >>> even know whether all the features I mentioned here are possible). >>> I suppose that reading through the whole DVD specification might answer >>> my >>> question as well, but I would, however, prefer to avoid that :) >>> >>> Any pointers to released titles would be appreciated, while any links to >>> web >>> pages depicting the above would be even more greatly appreciated! >>> >>> TIA! >>> >> >> > > "Rob D" wrote ...
> Chris, sorry to stray off -topic, but I do a few band gigs / I have also frequently used on-camera mics (mainly for ambient> presentations myself too. I noticed that on your DVD you > have a link for mixed audio - (camera and stage mics) - How > does this mix sound? > I must admit that when I first used more than one sound source, > things were fine as long as I kept them separate. Mixing the two > feeds gave a "cheapo Karaoke" effect which has stopped me > from experimenting too much with this since. I now use 2 mics, > or even plug in to sound board but keep the tracks separate. > Any observations / suggestions welcomed. and audience POV) mixed with more conventionally-placed mics and never seen any such problem. Maybe you had something out of phase? On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:25:40 +0200, "Griffo Fooxburr"
<griffofBEZ@SPAMAhotmail.com> wrote: >Any pointers to released titles would be appreciated, while any links to web www.videohelp.com should have a tutorial somewhere on a DIY menu>pages depicting the above would be even more greatly appreciated! programming. -- When you hear the toilet flush, and hear the words "uh oh", it's already too late. - by anonymous Mother in Austin, TX To reply, replace digi.mon with phreaker.net
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"Griffo Fooxburr" <griffofBEZ@SPAMAhotmail.com> wrote in message I thought the menu in Memento was interesting.news:d5dh65$l8j$1@ss405.t-com.hr... > Hello all, > This might sound a little bit strange, but I would really like to know > what > the most complicated DVD menu would look like, in terms of various > elements > in the menu: animated buttons, animated background, audio dependent on > button currently selected, buttons flying around, you name it... (I don't > even know whether all the features I mentioned here are possible). > I suppose that reading through the whole DVD specification might answer my > question as well, but I would, however, prefer to avoid that :) > > Any pointers to released titles would be appreciated, while any links to > web > pages depicting the above would be even more greatly appreciated! > > TIA! > The whole thing spirals around the screen whilst the options cycle through in order and yet you can still select the various options as they move. I've no idea how it was done but pretty cool nonetheless. http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0209144/ Stephen I haven't seen that one yet! Is there a picture of the menu posted on that
IMDB page somewhere? I'll keep looking - or rent the DVD. :) Thanks Stephen, C.j Show quote "Stephen Stewart" <a.nonymous@no.spam> wrote in message news:d5dusq$m4b$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com... > I thought the menu in Memento was interesting. > > The whole thing spirals around the screen whilst the options cycle through > in order and yet you can still select the various options as they move. > > I've no idea how it was done but pretty cool nonetheless. > > http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0209144/ > > > Stephen  |
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